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[01:20:03] cardboardbox How would you boot /efi and /boot on a flash drive when installing Arch Linux?

[01:20:24] cardboardbox put not boot*

[01:22:59] brothchild hi cardboardbox

[01:23:04] brothchild i dont know sory

[01:23:40] cardboardbox I might try it some time. It shouldnt be that difficult. I think you'd just mount the flash drive and install the bootloader and kernel.

[01:23:46] brothchild but generally i'd use cp -r or rsync to transfer a dir

[01:25:01] cardboardbox I was planning to install arch and keep the bootloader and kernel on a flash drive and encrypt everything else.

[01:25:15] brothchild hm

[01:25:28] brothchild i was wise enough to never encrypt drives

[01:25:53] cardboardbox I thought it would stop people with physical access from doing stuff to your computer.

[01:26:11] brothchild maybe idk

[01:26:45] brothchild probably the right thing to do for some people / situations yeah

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[01:28:36] cardboardbox I find the stuff written in the info command hard to understand.

[01:28:45] brothchild you're not alone

[01:28:53] cardboardbox why is it written like that?

[01:28:59] brothchild often it's a web of terminology

[01:29:07] brothchild and you can't get footing anywhere

[01:29:13] brothchild it wants to be correct

[01:29:31] brothchild and to be precise and correct in technical domain you have to use specialized words

[01:29:37] cardboardbox Im guessing to understand some things in there Id have to have a computer science major

[01:29:56] brothchild or a hobbyist

[01:30:06] cardboardbox Or sit there with a dictionary

[01:30:16] cardboardbox look up anything that's hard to understand.

[01:30:21] brothchild it's all 'basic' stuff but there's rabbitholes everywere

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[01:30:48] cardboardbox some of what I know to do on linux was inherited from when I used dos

[01:30:54] brothchild so i'd look into the grub2 bootloader

[01:31:04] brothchild how do you drive that, lern the basics

[01:31:13] brothchild that way you can get some grounding

[01:31:21] brothchild not try to directly solve your problem

[01:31:24] brothchild sometimes that works

[01:32:03] cardboardbox I've been doing okay at using Linux so far.

[01:32:05] brothchild my brain doesn't lurn too well

[01:32:07] brothchild same

[01:32:16] brothchild but i just been havin fun with the freedom to break everything

[01:32:21] brothchild and restore from backups

[01:32:23] cardboardbox It's not too hard and a lot of things are idiot proofed

[01:32:24] brothchild for so many years

[01:32:25] brothchild yes

[01:32:43] brothchild i advise people to at least go through a phase

[01:32:52] brothchild of break it often and restore from backup often

[01:32:57] brothchild that encourages good habits

[01:32:58] cardboardbox I dont understand those people that think linux is hard because you have to press a key to boot off a flash drive to install it.

[01:33:06] brothchild mental hygiene about where your user data stays etc

[01:33:27] brothchild yes

[01:33:33] & linux_probe they want to push a power button and have it work, then only click a mouse and drool

[01:33:49] cardboardbox eat cheetos with a stain on their shirt.

[01:34:04] brothchild i have been cheetoless for months don't remind me

[01:34:41] brothchild a coupla midwest farmers invented them

[01:35:01] & linux_probe so cardboardbox hasn;t had orange weiner

[01:35:45] brothchild i have spent an evening researching cheeto-making machines

[01:36:08] brothchild you can get up to 500kw and several hundreds 1000s $$

[01:36:22] brothchild but also can make with small unit, maybe $500

[01:37:02] brothchild We will need to make our own cheetos after the apocalypse

[01:38:09] & linux_probe you'll be too busy trying to make the ingredients it requires. lol

[01:38:20] cardboardbox Im surprised a joke about cheetos got someone to say something like that.

[01:38:26] & linux_probe well, grow, harvest, process. lol

[01:39:10] & linux_probe what joke?

[01:39:35] cardboardbox I thought it was a joke sort of. the image of someone drooling eating cheetos in front of their computer.

[01:39:53] cardboardbox hur dur, how do I internet?

[01:40:00] & linux_probe hah, that was about linux!

[01:40:07] & linux_probe meanwhile... https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=orange+dick

[01:40:07] % glitchy [url] Urban Dictionary: orange dick | www.urbandictionary.com

[01:40:12] cardboardbox though, I'm not sure if I know how to internet anymore, and I'm being serious about that.

[01:40:30] cardboardbox It's like some methods to searching the internet no longer work.

[01:43:49] brothchild i kinda am that stupid though, when i think of how many times i've had to relearn bootloader issues

[01:44:05] brothchild so i can enjoy cheetos without shame

[01:44:35] brothchild but there's other brands i prefer

[01:44:52] brothchild hey linux-probe i wrote an eq-evener-outer for my podcast collection

[01:44:56] & linux_probe cheetos dickbeatos

[01:45:21] brothchild now the boomy bass podcasts are no longer annoying

[01:45:45] brothchild thing i wanted 20 years ago now llm can write for me, with some whip-cracking

[01:46:09] brothchild but you have to check their work

[01:46:20] brothchild it suggested the wrong filter

[01:47:04] & End3r https://downdetector.com/

[01:47:04] % glitchy [url] Just a moment... | downdetector.com

[01:47:11] & End3r happy little outages

[01:47:27] cardboardbox How would you use dd to make a copy of your drive in a iso?

[01:47:34] cardboardbox I think it's possible.

[01:48:03] brothchild i did that every day at work

[01:48:20] cardboardbox would you out your drive as if= and the iso you want to put it in as of=

[01:48:29] brothchild technically the iso name convention stems from cd-r images

[01:48:38] brothchild usually i named drive images .bin

[01:48:42] general_kornwallace End3r: so that's why youtube is acting weird

[01:48:49] cardboardbox .bin would probably make more sense.

[01:48:50] & End3r yeah

[01:48:54] brothchild yes cardboardbox

[01:49:03] brothchild do not swap if= and of=

[01:49:04] & End3r looks like aws and or cloudflare

[01:49:07] cardboardbox When I'm on my computer is download videos with yt-dlp

[01:49:14] brothchild i told someone about dd and told him to never swap if= and of=

[01:49:23] general_kornwallace End3r: as per usual

[01:49:26] brothchild and he erase 20 years of his data like within a day

[01:49:28] & linux_probe as always the big cloud hosers

[01:49:28] End3r yep

[01:49:31] brothchild of me telling him about dd

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[01:49:54] cardboardbox meme machine

[01:50:46] brothchild so anyway just call it a drive image

[01:50:47] brothchild not an ISO

[01:50:57] brothchild the ISO is really an image of a CD or DVD

[01:51:17] brothchild referring to the iso9660 and related file formats used

[01:51:45] brothchild hard drives do not use the ISO9660 file ormat that CDs use

[01:51:56] brothchild so we don't refer to hard drive images as 'ISO's

[01:52:05] brothchild (just as an aside)

[01:52:43] brothchild i got the chance to do the CDR music for a mixed-mode game

[01:52:45] * End3r goes back to playing music on winamp-linux

[01:52:46] brothchild so that was fun

[01:52:54] brothchild that is a cool project End3r

[01:53:11] cardboardbox why does writing a linux iso to a usb with dd work then?

[01:53:44] brothchild mu

[01:54:34] brothchild if you are not using CDR media or DVD etc, you're not using ISOs

[01:54:42] brothchild you're dealing with drive images

[01:55:38] brothchild you can call every animal 'animal' but i'll call a cat a 'cat', and not an animal

[01:57:59] cardboardbox would you be able to put a linux iso onto a dvd?

[01:58:12] cardboardbox I never did it before. though I bought linux on dvd before.

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[02:00:20] brothchild i think this is unnecessary discssion i am sorry for mentioning this

[02:00:30] brothchild you can put the linux on the thing

[02:01:15] & End3r it's always fucking cloudflare

[02:01:26] brothchild old guy blathering on about things that are just not relevant now

[02:01:35] & End3r perha[s I can write a better alternative

[02:01:36] brothchild i have to watch for that^

[02:01:48] & linux_probe clownflare, aws seems wonky too

[02:01:58] & End3r it is because of cloudflare

[02:02:04] & End3r api usages are fine

[02:02:10] brothchild i know someone who worked for amazon doing their infra

[02:02:13] & End3r but web shit is fucked

[02:02:19] & End3r has to be cloudflare

[02:02:28] brothchild he had stories...

[02:02:39] brothchild we'd argue about bitcoin all evening

[02:03:25] brothchild what would you do with 1000 btc

[02:03:54] cardboardbox I think I knew the answer to that question. I sorry

[02:04:15] cardboardbox in xfburn it lets you do it, there's a button

[02:04:42] brothchild well to put an image on a drive.. ok

[02:04:54] brothchild i think generally my procedure is, if i want to install a linux image

[02:05:02] brothchild i have that image downloaded

[02:05:03] cardboardbox I use dd to nowadays

[02:05:20] cardboardbox though that would only work with usb drives far as I know

[02:05:20] brothchild i use dd to put the data on a partition, or on a device

[02:05:31] brothchild depending if it's a drive image or a partition image

[02:05:48] brothchild yes

[02:06:19] brothchild if i dd to a device (drive) then the bootloader is right where it needs to be

[02:06:33] brothchild what i can do then is...

[02:06:47] brothchild change the startup to continue from an installed linux on another drive

[02:06:58] brothchild that way i don't need to mess with the bootloader bits

[02:07:19] brothchild but rather change linux's init to point to my other drive

[02:07:25] brothchild but i havent done that in ages

[02:08:10] brothchild some SBCs have nice bootloaders configged to boot from a wide variety of partitions and things

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[03:45:07] & End3r https://github.com/lord3nd3r/winamp-linux/releases/tag/v0.5.0-beta1

[03:45:07] % glitchy [url] Release Winamp 0.5 BETA - First Linux Release · lord3nd3r/winamp-linux · GitHub | github.com

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[04:52:39] brothchild ++ \o/

[04:52:43] brothchild awesome End3r

[04:53:32] brothchild a lot of people should see that

[04:53:36] brothchild who can do publicity

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[09:43:11] antithesis The appimage doesn't include projectM it seems.

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[09:43:33] antithesis I'm unable to run it. Even after installing projectM from the repositories tbh.

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[13:09:47] & End3r I'll fix it after work

[13:12:14] antithesis ok I will try the deb in the meantime

[13:13:39] antithesis Same issue although I'm converting it to a .txz and installing it under Slackware so you probably don't care about that.

[13:16:11] antithesis It's weird though. With the .txz it should use my system's projectM so it's like I don't have the library even though I installed that program.

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[13:36:04] & End3r can you download the src and compile that way?

[13:36:16] & End3r https://github.com/lord3nd3r/winamp-linux

[13:36:16] % glitchy [url] GitHub - lord3nd3r/winamp-linux: Native linux port of winamp using QT6 | github.com

[13:36:51] & End3r mind you

[13:37:03] & End3r it's rather large as it includes the windows wasabi code

[13:37:34] & End3r which is why i was dicking with the release packages last night

[13:39:02] antithesis How is the .appimage so small then?

[13:39:22] & End3r pre compiled

[13:39:39] & End3r the src has both source codes

[13:39:47] & End3r windows and qt

[13:40:09] & End3r i was pretty exausted when i was messing with it

[13:40:16] & End3r so i could have fucked it up

[13:40:39] antithesis Appimages are usually 200-300mb for me, not 1.5mb. It looks wrong.

[13:41:08] & End3r yeah, I'll dick with it in a bit, I'm at work atm

[13:49:31] antithesis Sorry I cba I only have 14GB free on root

[13:49:46] antithesis I will be short of space at one point and by then I'll have lost track of winamp taking the space.

[13:50:33] antithesis It's cool that you're porting it, though. I always missed the feature to pause after the current track.

[13:53:59] & End3r I will let you know when the release packages are updated

[13:55:11] antithesis ok

[13:57:35] & End3r there, just uploaded new packages

[13:57:39] & End3r hope that fixes it

[13:57:46] & End3r if now, will dig deeper later

[13:57:56] & End3r https://github.com/lord3nd3r/winamp-linux/tree/master/release

[13:57:56] % glitchy [url] winamp-linux/release at master · lord3nd3r/winamp-linux · GitHub | github.com

[14:00:17] & End3r s/now/not

[14:00:17] % glitchy End3r meant to say: if not, will dig deeper later

[14:03:02] antithesis The appimage can't find glibc End3r

[14:05:18] & End3r what system do you use?

[14:06:13] antithesis Slackware 15

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[14:07:20] brothchild if you install Slackware 15 you don't need to get out of your chair to go to the bathroom anymore

[14:07:43] brothchild ^ true statement

[14:07:47] & End3r lol

[14:09:07] & End3r i will do some research, but slackware uses very old binaries

[14:09:14] & End3r so idk if it is even possible

[14:09:56] & End3r i mean, it could with a docker image

[14:10:50] antithesis appimages almost always work for me. I think something's wrong with your appimage. It's still smaller than what I'd expect.

[14:11:03] & End3r The binary requires glibc 2.34 but Slackware 15 only has glibc 2.33

[14:11:46] brothchild https://x0.at/0nuJ.ans pusher scientist (Unicode Art) 74 rows, 47 columns.

[14:13:01] & End3r yeah, i think docker is the way to go

[14:17:06] & End3r gotta compile qt6 from src to make it work

[14:17:11] & End3r this is going to take a while

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[14:28:17] antithesis Why not make a flatpak?

[14:28:38] antithesis Docker for personal software feels a bit odd. It'd be the only docker app I'd run on my PC.

[14:35:05] brothchild i tink a lot of python folks have gone to docker

[14:35:40] brothchild here's an idea pythonistas -- consider copy+pasting functions instead of importing a library...

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[15:00:00] & End3r https://github.com/lord3nd3r/winamp-linux/releases/tag/v0.5.0-beta1

[15:00:01] % glitchy [url] Release Winamp 0.5 BETA - First Linux Release · lord3nd3r/winamp-linux · GitHub | github.com

[15:00:12] & End3r new packages for you

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[15:15:47] brothchild i have an idea if someone wants to patent it $50:50

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[15:58:53] brothchild i figured out why a terminal is a better use of screen real-estate than any gui program

[15:59:00] brothchild wb cardboardbox

[15:59:11] brothchild redstarcomrade: is your nickname a joke

[15:59:36] redstarcomrade brothchild, yea i used to play a lot of command and conquer red alert as a kid

[15:59:41] brothchild :)

[15:59:54] redstarcomrade default name for multiplayer was comrade so yea

[16:00:14] redstarcomrade and youre a finance bro (bro+rothschild) right?

[16:00:16] brothchild i heard that game mentioned a lot. is there a FOSS version of it?

[16:00:20] redstarcomrade finance bro gonna bro

[16:00:23] brothchild no i just like soup

[16:00:24] redstarcomrade YES!

[16:00:31] redstarcomrade and yes to soup

[16:00:34] redstarcomrade broth slaps

[16:00:34] brothchild k now i am interested

[16:01:07] brothchild i did do a stint in finance too

[16:01:09] brothchild grmbl

[16:01:23] redstarcomrade https://cncnet.org/red-alert

[16:01:23] % glitchy [url] Red Alert Online - CnCNet | cncnet.org

[16:01:27] brothchild it was nice when the numbers were correct. good autist job really.

[16:01:27] redstarcomrade here it is

[16:01:29] brothchild ty!

[16:01:46] cardboardbox hmm

[16:01:54] brothchild it was very very bad when i made mistakes

[16:02:15] brothchild "your excel error cost us $40k this month" is something you don't want to hear

[16:02:21] redstarcomrade yea im a pothead turned IT helpdesk so i dont know jack shit about finances

[16:02:30] redstarcomrade buy low, sell high!

[16:02:36] brothchild that's the plan man

[16:02:53] brothchild i hate how so much of finance is just rules compliance now

[16:03:05] brothchild we're not doing real work, as much as busywork

[16:03:08] brothchild it's everywere now

[16:03:16] brothchild ok i gotta check out cncet.org

[16:04:09] brothchild wow 1313 players online, if true impressive

[16:06:37] brothchild i don't like how the troops move right over cliffs as if they were flat

[16:07:26] redstarcomrade yea i loved using heavy tanks and mammoth tanks

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[16:07:37] redstarcomrade and MiGs

[16:08:05] redstarcomrade bomb their defenses first and then send in wave after wave of tanks

[16:08:29] brothchild wish i could time machine myself to be about 16 years old, to try this and see if it's fun

[16:08:35] brothchild now all i see is mechanics

[16:09:24] brothchild i did a Dune2000 port, is that similar in mechanics to C&C ?

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[16:11:29] redstarcomrade YES!

[16:11:53] redstarcomrade similar game engine i think, both released very close dates by Westwood studios

[16:11:56] redstarcomrade DUUUUUUUUUUUUUNE

[16:12:21] redstarcomrade it had cameos by the dude that played Gimli in LOTR and Worf from star trek

[16:12:35] redstarcomrade Worf and Gimli in DUUUUUUUUUNE 2000

[16:14:31] brothchild k

[16:14:38] brothchild maybe you know some things i am curious about

[16:14:41] brothchild sec

[16:14:45] redstarcomrade https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkpUAVEaMj0&vl=en

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[16:43:56] brothchild ah yes now i remember ave you played "Advance Wars" on game boy

[16:44:38] brothchild there's a nice 'focus' to GBA

[16:44:50] brothchild not too big, everyting

[16:44:56] brothchild bad networking tho

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[17:34:27] cardboardbox benis icmp echo

[17:35:09] cardboardbox whos benis is this? tell 192.0.1.2

[17:35:48] cardboardbox tcp benis ack packet recieved

[17:36:04] brothchild is benis a utility

[17:36:17] cardboardbox benis wenis

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[17:41:28] brothchild it shoul dbe

[17:41:41] brothchild how about a system monitor

[17:41:58] brothchild no package named 'benis'

[17:48:48] cardboardbox benis is not a command batch file or operative.

[17:49:37] cardboardbox benis not found. plug benis in

[17:51:43] cardboardbox im so bored. I should stop making benis jokes.

[18:01:28] & linux_probe quit playing with your benis on irc!

[18:09:08] brothchild broadband evaluative new information service

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[19:25:48] brothchild 4588 Historical_Controversies_Episode_17.mp3 196 Historical_Controversies_Episode_17.opus 23x compression, WITH quality improvement. https://x0.at/g97I.mp3 ## https://x0.at/E0hO.opus

[19:29:29] brothchild it was working... but then i improved it :/

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