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[01:59:19] MatCat lol next week I am getting a 9950X3D, which I am getting for FREE, took me about 8 months at work saving up rewards points to cover it mostly ringing up people shipping weed that refuse to have their own rewards

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[02:09:26] brothchild good day MatCat

[02:10:02] brothchild what work lets you get points for shipping weed? *intrigued*

[02:10:41] brothchild i'm looking for employment in cannabis eradication myself

[02:34:36] brothchild i have the 9900X3D and it worksforme

[02:34:36] MatCat I will prob get another case too, cause I can basically put the prebuilt back toghther as I got it once I get a better GPU (currently a 5060, considering a 7900 XT)

[02:35:08] MatCat plus this case wont show off the ROG Thor 1000W PSU I got for FREE unopened brand new as well lol

[02:35:20] brothchild nice

[02:35:25] MatCat yeah I got so lucky

[02:36:38] brothchild yep you'll have about hmm. depends on workload .. maybe aroun 20% more horsepower than me

[02:36:50] brothchild cinebench multicore +23%

[02:37:25] brothchild for llms though we're not really happy campers with 70GB/s DRAM throughput

[02:38:09] brothchild i'll be happy if i can get these 4 sticks to be stable around rated speed

[02:38:17] MatCat I don't do LLM stuff so that don't bother me much hehe

[02:41:38] brothchild i bought the first 64GB two years ago then last september god told me to buy another 64GB even though i couldn't really afford it

[02:41:41] brothchild thank you god

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[03:18:14] MatCat yeah I WANTED to do a 96GB setup but yeah, that has to wait

[03:23:16] brothchild i remember when i had access to a $50k computer with 24MB RAM

[03:23:28] brothchild got to babysit it over the summer

[03:23:29] MatCat lol

[03:24:11] brothchild That was somewhee between when we got money from NIH and private funding

[03:24:29] brothchild so I can't say wheter that box was funded by Anthony Fauci but there's a good chance

[03:28:34] brothchild the *name stealers* stole the definition of inflation

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[13:03:03] brothchild https://x0.at/I030.ans two frog frens on phone, 24bit ANSI, 16 lines, utf-8

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[14:02:18] & ComputerTech oh shit

[14:02:21] & ComputerTech tjr is back??

[14:02:24] & ComputerTech oi tjr

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[14:21:31] @ wez ComputerTech: .o/

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[14:59:33] brothchild anybody want to do some smart algorithm programming with me

[15:09:06] @ wez brothchild: at 2AM? Are you crazy?

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[15:09:14] @ wez I am going to bed

[15:09:22] brothchild baww

[15:09:26] brothchild 2AM best time

[15:09:44] brothchild well, if you don't have to go to work next day

[15:09:47] @ wez Nothing good happens after 2AM

[15:10:07] @ wez I do have to goto work but it isn't the next day, it is in 6 hours

[15:10:16] @ wez bbl

[15:10:21] brothchild o7

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[18:34:11] cardboardbox How would I know my computer is infected with a rootkit?

[18:37:16] brothchild hi cardboardbox

[18:37:43] cardboardbox hey

[18:37:55] brothchild you might see suspicious activity on a network port LED, or a Hard Drive LED. You do have those, yes?

[18:38:34] brothchild you'd think laptops would have activity indictor leds for their I/O, on account of this, but they don't....

[18:44:13] cardboardbox I use my usb wifi nic. it has a light but I'm not sure how to intrepet the light that blinks

[18:46:01] Shahid learn wireshark and use another computer

[18:47:14] & ComputerTech tjr wake tf up

[18:47:30] brothchild what's the simplestest agentic browser-controller+scraper. I want to crawl for things matching my search preference

[18:48:11] brothchild no. i don't need this. nvm.

[18:48:18] & ComputerTech lol

[18:49:46] absentia cardboardbox: there is no way to know

[18:49:57] absentia in 2026 you should operate under the constant assumption that everything is rooted

[18:51:31] cardboardbox absentia are you talking about glowies? I dont think they'd be interested in me. I'm more talking street level thugs that do hacking. By what i see every now and then they get their hands on a zero day that pwns me.

[18:52:06] cardboardbox even if my software is up to date they get in.

[18:53:35] absentia lol

[18:53:49] absentia street level thugs can't do shit

[18:53:57] absentia they either lack the esoterica of 0days and technique

[18:54:00] Shahid he wont listen, i said the same thing

[18:54:02] absentia (possibly soon to be eroded by AI)

[18:54:03] cardboardbox they dont seem that smart by some of the things i hear them say

[18:54:07] cardboardbox so who's doing the haxoring.

[18:54:10] absentia or the compute capital

[18:54:14] absentia cardboardbox: i have in fact tried

[18:54:21] absentia many mainstream vendors' default WPA2 PSKs

[18:54:29] absentia are out of range for all but large corporations and nationstate actors

[18:54:37] absentia it is in principle possible to brute force the entire keyspace

[18:54:41] absentia of a 10 digit hexadecimal PSK

[18:54:46] absentia but it will cost you on the order of $250k-$1M

[18:54:52] absentia chump change for the NSA

[18:54:54] cardboardbox shahid, I hear you, lately I've been trying to start from zero because I might be wrong about things

[18:54:55] absentia inaccessible to street level thugs

[18:55:02] absentia cardboardbox: first principles is good

[18:55:16] cardboardbox first principles, does that mean like the begginers mind?

[18:55:16] absentia i am saying if your threat model is a "street level thug" with no capacity with computers

[18:55:23] absentia beyond copy/pasting from .tk or geocities sites

[18:55:30] absentia you've not much to worry about on the rootkit end of things

[18:55:37] absentia unless they gain physical access to your compute

[18:55:37] Shahid yep

[18:55:52] absentia now of course

[18:55:55] absentia visiting said .tk sites

[18:56:00] absentia may expose you to driveby downloads

[18:56:02] absentia various webp 0days

[18:56:04] absentia etc

[18:56:08] absentia but that's a different threat model and threat actor

[18:56:11] absentia than "street level thugs"

[18:56:13] absentia that's more like

[18:56:15] absentia "cyberspace lowlifes"

[18:56:22] absentia i.e. scammers and advertising agencies

[18:56:36] absentia now cardboardbox

[18:56:39] absentia i invite you to prove me wrong

[18:56:44] absentia get yourself a copy of claude opus 4.6

[18:56:47] absentia or maybe even just some distilled model

[18:56:53] absentia and try actively pentesting your local neighborhood

[18:56:58] absentia i await your results

[18:57:04] absentia i think there exist some low hanging fruit here Shahid

[18:57:10] cardboardbox I dont think i want to hack other peoples computers.

[18:57:17] absentia then you will be hacked cardboardbox.

[18:57:22] absentia it is the reality of 2026

[18:57:24] cardboardbox though i could try learnijg to hack my own stuff.

[18:57:26] absentia this is not a matter of faith

[18:57:29] absentia it is a matter of fact

[18:57:36] absentia first-hand knowledge

[18:57:44] cardboardbox I thought of learning how to hack.

[18:57:46] cardboardbox to learn it.

[18:57:53] brothchild that's like Daszak saying "We have to make the human-optimized virus to learn how to stop it"

[18:58:00] cardboardbox I'm thinking of going to a university nad getting a computer networking textbook

[18:58:23] cardboardbox but how else would you learn cybersecurity, brothchild?

[18:58:40] & End3r cybersecurity is fun

[18:59:00] cardboardbox might be something to do, as a lot of my problems are due to not having much to do.

[18:59:59] brothchild i think a lot of my brothers are experiencing the same

[19:00:43] cardboardbox people in general dont really have any direction

[19:00:50] cardboardbox they spend too much time with media on the internet.

[19:01:10] brothchild i heard someone call the hypershort attention/multitasking "popcorn brain"

[19:01:21] cardboardbox the fuck

[19:01:36] Shahid i've not heard that term in ages

[19:01:43] cardboardbox I've never heard it.

[19:01:57] cardboardbox i usually describe that as having the attention span of a fruit fly colony

[19:02:18] brothchild that's funny

[19:02:30] brothchild i used to say "her mind is like a cloud of bees"

[19:02:47] cardboardbox "she got her head in the clouds"

[19:12:34] cardboardbox one time a guy on the street said "I work for Eastlink, I'm on every computer

[19:12:36] cardboardbox "

[19:12:58] cardboardbox eastlink is one of the ISPs here.

[19:13:28] cardboardbox though I dont really think it's a guy at the ISP, he mightve been trying to get me to think it's the ISP.

[19:15:11] cardboardbox they make doing certain things really hard

[19:15:31] cardboardbox like when i try to buy security related things like a new router they make it so my transaction doesnt go through.

[19:15:44] cardboardbox then they empty my shopping cart

[19:16:55] brothchild mmm

[19:17:13] cardboardbox anything else no problem.

[19:17:30] cardboardbox when it's related to wiping my computer or securing my network i have nothing but problems.

[19:17:41] brothchild i have nothing intelligent say at this point

[19:17:49] cardboardbox it's really weird.

[19:18:09] brothchild well, i can share some stories of stuff i id

[19:18:12] brothchild *did

[19:18:20] brothchild old guys can do that and not much else

[19:18:36] cardboardbox it took me awhile to realize i'm old now

[19:19:05] brothchild my mom said 'i don't feel old *inside*'

[19:19:49] brothchild one thing i enjoyed was 'service on a box'

[19:20:12] brothchild company was having problems

[19:20:31] brothchild lots of services on one box, low bandwith

[19:20:50] brothchild conflicts, package manager and library problems and weirdness

[19:20:59] brothchild when was this, 2001

[19:21:18] brothchild i was like, let me just build this up on seperate boxes some evening

[19:21:37] brothchild "we don't have the machines or space"

[19:21:57] brothchild i was like nah i'll make it out of the junk here, there was plenty of old harware fine for single-service computers

[19:22:11] brothchild so i had the perfect use for my recently acquired lfs / gentoo skills

[19:22:36] brothchild and it was pure fun, i think they were 90mhz pentium-ii's

[19:22:48] brothchild non pentium 1s

[19:22:51] brothchild yea

[19:24:30] brothchild pretty much cut-n-paste and then in the process of that we had seperately bootable boxies and the additional scripts to failsafe/recover

[19:25:31] brothchild we just iterated up to high availability, then the boss merged some of it after i moved on to other things

[19:27:30] brothchild Wen they ported linux to IBM z-series i got the chance to do some work with the hercules emulator, that was neat at least to learn abit about the banking big-iron

[19:29:40] brothchild so ooooo

[19:30:42] cardboardbox that's pretty cool

[19:30:49] cardboardbox i was taking a dump and eating something

[19:30:59] cardboardbox after my dump I remembered i didnt eat much today

[19:31:16] brothchild i just had tea so far :P

[19:31:34] cardboardbox i wanted to learn lfs

[19:31:41] cardboardbox maybe i should start with gentoo

[19:31:48] cardboardbox i think lfs is way above my head at this point

[19:31:55] brothchild idk how much good it did me

[19:32:02] cardboardbox someone on /soc/ suggested it to me when i said i had nothing better to do

[19:32:13] cardboardbox it taught you skills.

[19:32:20] brothchild it could have been very useful with a different roll of the dice i guess

[19:32:26] cardboardbox skills are good to have

[19:32:39] brothchild yes it kinda does, but you end up doing a lot of stuff

[19:32:44] brothchild that you never do again

[19:32:44] cardboardbox people think I'm skilled at computers, but i dont really know much

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[19:33:08] cardboardbox most of my knowledge/skills are useless.

[19:33:09] brothchild nobody does nowadays, it's too vast

[19:33:33] brothchild that's why i like terminal apps!

[19:33:41] brothchild did you see my bash art editor?

[19:33:55] cardboardbox i find a lot of people dont do much past how they are trained for their jobs and just become a couch potato when they come home from work because they want to relax

[19:34:05] cardboardbox you never showed me it.

[19:34:08] brothchild it undderstandable

[19:34:22] brothchild ah ok just screenshot then

[19:34:38] brothchild it's needing that first refactor like a lizard needs to molt

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[19:37:55] cardboardbox https://files.catbox.moe/pj619w.png

[19:42:43] brothchild i forgot what wilby does

[19:46:57] cardboardbox it indexes the classic web

[19:47:12] cardboardbox and non soydev sites

[19:47:17] brothchild ty

[19:58:40] cardboardbox I've realized I interlized the style of linux documentation, I try to hard to be correct. so I never refer to an adult female as a girl, i call her a woman.

[19:58:59] cardboardbox like when i described one of my stalkers

[19:59:07] cardboardbox "morbidely obese black woman"

[20:03:21] cardboardbox anyone that fat is going to have health problems later on.

[20:10:42] brothchild i'm sorry you had to endure that; those situations can be dangerous

[20:11:54] cardboardbox what do you mean?

[20:12:06] brothchild stalkers

[20:12:14] cardboardbox they're strange

[20:12:42] brothchild well i can sympathize

[20:12:47] cardboardbox they have a key to my apartment and come in here while i'm not in that apartment. they used to sneak in while i was in the apartment but they havnt been able to do that since i put security bars on the door

[20:12:55] brothchild ohm

[20:13:25] cardboardbox i tried changing the locks but apparently the landlord keeps giving them a key or they're picking the lock

[20:13:32] cardboardbox or climbing up the balcony

[20:14:36] cardboardbox they keep making veiled threats like "you're going to die" but so far they havnt done anything to me, even when they snuck in while i was in the apartment.

[20:15:31] cardboardbox sometimes they try talking to me through the door, but i cant make it out most times and i usually ignore them.

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[20:16:48] cardboardbox generally if someone isnt going to talk directly to me, whatever they say can be discarded.

[20:17:35] cardboardbox lately they keep their door ajar so sometimes they have conversations with each other by their door thinking i'll actually hear them.

[20:17:57] cardboardbox i hear a couple words then tune it out.

[20:19:35] brothchild i don't think we'll be honoring the intent of the channel creators if I comment

[20:20:19] cardboardbox yeah i should stop talking about that here.

[20:20:28] cardboardbox artix loonix is pretty cool.

[20:20:42] cardboardbox i installed it today

[20:20:51] cardboardbox seems like openrc is less bloatey than systemd

[20:21:02] cardboardbox im running it on my old hp laptop that's really slow

[20:22:39] cardboardbox i used one of their openrc xfce iso

[20:22:48] brothchild systemd doesn't solve any problems for me and introduces a slime that i do not care for

[20:23:11] cardboardbox i find it's bloatey, every time i tried openrc it booted faster than anything with systemd

[20:23:36] absentia Shahid:

[20:23:45] cardboardbox i dont think i need most of the features systemd has.

[20:24:07] absentia grep for my "hot thesis" earlier today

[20:24:20] absentia pay attention to my points on the re-emergence of "religious thinking" vis-a-vis technology and AI

[20:24:27] absentia Shahid: then read cardboardbox's chats above

[20:24:34] absentia it's happening

[20:24:37] absentia i assure you

[20:24:39] absentia right now

[20:26:50] & End3r The fuck did I walk into?

[20:27:34] cardboardbox what keyword should i grep so i can find what you said before, absentia?

[20:28:04] cardboardbox oh wait, if it's not something during this session i wouldnt have it. nm

[20:28:13] absentia cardboardbox:

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[20:28:14] & devbox [End3r] People are going to the moon, aliens are coming to Earth and I’m still pushing on a door that says pull.

[20:28:14] * devbox set mode +qo End3r End3r

[20:28:34] absentia 14:14:53 &absentia | ok

[20:28:36] absentia 14:14:55 &absentia | hot thesis #chads

[20:28:38] absentia 14:15:14 &absentia | religious thinking is the byproduct of not understanding what lies beneath abstractions

[20:28:40] absentia 14:15:19 &absentia | example

[20:28:42] absentia 14:15:29 &absentia | fundamentalist christianity, creationism

[20:28:44] absentia 14:15:34 &absentia | god made the earth in 7 days, etc

[20:28:46] absentia 14:15:47 &absentia | this kind of naive, utterly ignorant cosmology and general mode of thinking

[20:28:48] absentia 14:15:55 &absentia | was completely obsoleted by the likes of galileo, copernicus, newton, etc.

[20:28:50] absentia 14:16:06 &absentia | who were not content with poor abstractions (read; fictions) with poor explanatory power

[20:28:52] absentia 14:16:24 &absentia | the only reason that kind of creationist thinking existed

[20:28:54] absentia 14:16:30 &absentia | is because the religious yokels of old did not understand

[20:28:56] absentia 14:16:32 &absentia | the mechanism

[20:28:58] absentia 14:16:35 &absentia | the mechanics of the universe

[20:28:59] ~ End3r .k absentia no.

[20:28:59] * devbox kicked absentia (no.)

[20:29:16] cardboardbox i dont know what's going on here.

[20:29:27] ~ End3r yeah, I am putting a stop to it

[20:29:32] brothchild i think he over-estimates his originnality, which puts him at a pretty smart 24 years old

[20:29:34] cardboardbox reminds me of those garbage thoughts i have sometimes "What context is this" i ask myself.

[20:29:41] cardboardbox even though that's a garbage thought

[20:30:02] cardboardbox because "What context is this?" makes no sense

[20:30:17] brothchild do you run irssi cardboardbox ? i want to try a color plugin sometime

[20:30:21] ~ End3r let it go, I will deal with it

[20:30:25] cardboardbox Im using weechat.

[20:30:37] brothchild okey i try to make it work with weechat

[20:30:41] cardboardbox hexchat isnt maintained anymore so i switched.

[20:30:52] brothchild good choice

[20:31:04] cardboardbox it was the only viable option i could think of

[20:31:13] cardboardbox in some ways it's better.

[20:31:17] brothchild i would choose it over irssi now

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[20:31:27] absentia cardboardbox: #chads

[20:31:33] absentia #linux has an upper bound on the complexity and size of thought

[20:31:42] absentia popcorn sized ideas for popcorn sized brains

[20:32:03] cardboardbox absentia: like what terry davis say. windows is a car, linux is a semi, and temple os is a moter bike.

[20:32:18] absentia you're an idiot

[20:32:28] cardboardbox i was reminded of that, that's all

[20:32:44] cardboardbox maybe i should prefaced it with i was reminded of that thing terry davis said

[20:33:07] cardboardbox not sure if it's really true what he said

[20:33:13] ~ End3r .kb absentia bye

[20:33:13] * devbox set mode +b *!*@6A92C5C4.85F2F35C.A1405B7F.IP

[20:33:13] * devbox kicked absentia (bye)

[20:33:38] ~ End3r problem solved

[20:33:57] cardboardbox windows is awful nowadays

[20:34:13] cardboardbox i tried installing it a couple weeks ago, windows 10 is unusable nowadays

[20:34:16] ~ End3r trust me i know

[20:34:21] ~ End3r I work at a MSP

[20:34:21] cardboardbox i got so used to linux now it's just strange.

[20:34:21] brothchild i got traumatized supporting win95

[20:34:33] ~ End3r and I have to service thousands of windows machines

[20:35:17] ~ End3r work machine is windows 11 =\

[20:35:37] cardboardbox Im glad I'm a neet so if i really want to i can ignore windows

[20:35:42] Stuiterbal ew Win11

[20:35:45] brothchild did you enjoy crowdstrike?

[20:35:53] ~ End3r windows sucks so bad

[20:36:13] ~ End3r every one of my personal machines are debian or debian based

[20:36:24] brothchild i made a very pretty 80x25 ansi screen for BBS

[20:36:24] ~ End3r the only windows machine in my house is my work laptop

[20:36:30] brothchild can ni show cardboardbox

[20:36:58] ~ End3r wife likes zorin

[20:37:05] ~ End3r kid uses chrome

[20:38:32] brothchild https://x0.at/O3IG.png prety happy with that one, really only 80 columns wide

[20:44:46] cardboardbox that's pretty cool

[20:44:48] cardboardbox apparently it

[20:45:00] cardboardbox s a textmode image viewer by the looks of it

[20:45:30] brothchild well i use a set of tools and do the pixle work in gimp

[20:45:39] brothchild then the final conversion is done by chafa

[20:46:37] brothchild by loosening the locality constraint in (x,y) we should be able to get sharper conversions

[20:46:47] brothchild this would also be very interesting algorithms to xplore

[20:50:53] cardboardbox i wanted to learn how to program but never had the patience or a good resource to try.

[20:52:46] brothchild neighbor hid had a computer so we worked on stuf together

[20:52:50] brothchild kid

[20:53:03] cardboardbox is it normal for Xorg to have a command line like this?

[20:53:05] cardboardbox /usr/lib/Xorg :0 -seat seat0 -auth /run/lightdm/root/:0 -nolisten tcp vt7 -novtswitch

[20:53:36] brothchild what looks weird, the seat?

[20:53:49] cardboardbox i thought it was weird tcp was there

[20:54:05] cardboardbox i find when ever something weird goes on with my computer i see xorg bounce up in htop with that

[20:54:42] brothchild the nolisten tcp tells it to not rende to other puters on your netwrk

[20:54:54] brothchild x11 comes with built-in networked applictions, not needing vnc

[20:55:24] brothchild *networking support

[20:55:59] brothchild it was very frustrating and confusing to me. they over-engineered it for little brains like me, and really limited what got created thereby

[20:56:49] cardboardbox Xorg is really old technology

[20:56:57] cardboardbox though i dont think the other one is much better

[20:57:10] brothchild wayland?

[20:57:13] cardboardbox yeah

[20:57:19] cardboardbox it was at the tip of my tongue.

[20:57:38] brothchild it's a bit confusing and i can't tell whose side i'm on in all the arguments

[20:57:51] cardboardbox i thought of learning programming and making my own os just for typing my journal

[20:58:16] brothchild fun

[20:58:21] cardboardbox it wouldnt have much going on so would be pretty secure

[20:58:31] cardboardbox though Id imagine that would be too much

[20:58:45] cardboardbox sort of like temple os but less schizo and a lot simpler.

[20:58:47] brothchild could just be a bit of hacking to your existing bootloader terminal interface

[20:59:12] cardboardbox i think theres a way to get the linux kernel to just use bash as your bootloader

[20:59:14] brothchild iterate on that

[20:59:21] cardboardbox what do you mean?

[21:00:11] brothchild it's the kind of ambitious thing that a beginner can add-to, piece by piece, and see meaningful results without slogging for months

[21:00:13] cardboardbox or i could read the linux kernel source several times. i think one way to learn coding is to read source code

[21:00:53] cardboardbox you mean doing stuff to grub or something like that?

[21:00:57] cardboardbox and bash

[21:01:14] brothchild i think it's a better use of time to write, debug and finish programs

[21:01:51] brothchild bash itself far too complicated, think ms-dos 1.0, cp/m

[21:02:03] brothchild line editors like eda

[21:02:04] cardboardbox if you can find the source code for those

[21:02:38] brothchild i meant the feature-set of them

[21:02:45] brothchild 100x less complex than bash

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[21:33:19] cardboardbox I wonder where you can find the feature set for something like ms-dos 1.0

[21:33:27] cardboardbox like what it specifically does

[21:33:41] cardboardbox I guess i could try searching

[21:33:45] cardboardbox might be some historical thing

[21:34:37] cardboardbox https://winworldpc.com/product/ms-dos/1x

[21:36:52] % glitchy [url] WinWorld: MS-DOS 1.x | winworldpc.com

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[21:59:17] cardboardbox I think the graphics hardware on this computer is failing

[21:59:29] cardboardbox is it possible to use a basic driver when that happens?

[21:59:55] cardboardbox the kernel logs from the last session is full of stuff like this

[21:59:56] cardboardbox Feb 25 17:40:52 [kernel] [11989.529953] radeon 0000:00:01.0: bo 0000000011a22e3a va 0x0000106eb0 conflict with (bo 000000000ef6aef5 0x0000106eb0 0x0

[22:04:08] brothchild at one point it was possible to get console on a pc serial port on bootup

[22:04:11] brothchild i assume it still is

[22:04:29] brothchild i used speaker wire once in desperation

[22:05:50] cardboardbox the video still works

[22:06:05] cardboardbox it's just the screen kept going black and the computer froze

[22:06:16] cardboardbox and there was video artifacts at one point

[22:06:45] cardboardbox after a reboot it went back to normal.

[22:06:47] brothchild if it's older hardware i hear one of the failure points is capacitors

[22:06:55] cardboardbox it's an old computer

[22:06:59] cardboardbox it was new in 2015

[22:07:00] brothchild another ram 'going bad'

[22:07:16] cardboardbox at one point it had hot chocolate spilled on it. it also survived a fall.

[22:07:18] * brothchild thinks if that seems old or not

[22:07:28] cardboardbox old in terms of computers

[22:07:34] cardboardbox over ten years

[22:07:42] brothchild yeah it is

[22:08:04] brothchild you should get a newer one except if you're in some apartment where random people walk in

[22:08:17] cardboardbox i didnt want to use my current computer using my phone hotspot because far as i know it doesnt have a rootkit infection and i want to keep it that way

[22:08:31] cardboardbox I carry my good computer with me.

[22:08:54] brothchild a good way to keep other people's paws off it

[22:09:56] brothchild is there an offtopic channel we could talk?

[22:11:32] Shahid helo

[22:11:47] brothchild hi

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