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[01:22:35] Icedream sushi-chan, \o

[01:22:46] Icedream and also hi everyone else, i'm still alive lol

[01:23:31] Icedream indeeeeed! and i happen to have remembered irc was a thing like 15 minutes ago or so? lol

[01:23:50] Icedream i mean i got a new job

[01:24:09] Icedream somewhen in the year i got older as well

[01:25:13] Icedream sushi-chan, yeah, i stopped being a web dev in june and switched to a new company as a full on software engineer

[01:25:19] Icedream do tell!

[01:25:35] Icedream i have my ears pointed, both of htem

[01:25:38] Icedream *them

[01:25:55] Icedream (yes I can actually control my ears to a degree where i can wiggle them)

[01:26:07] Icedream sushi-chan, I do kinda remember

[01:26:14] Icedream woooooooooot

[01:26:20] Icedream that's amazing stuff!

[01:26:42] Icedream that's teeth put in, congrats!

[01:27:09] Icedream was it a specific uni you were going after or just uni in general?

[01:27:47] Icedream of course, japan is a thing with ya sushi-chan ^^

[01:27:49] Icedream i still remember that one

[01:28:04] Icedream that's amazing though, good stuff

[01:29:02] Icedream i'm sorry but UEFI is easier to set up for booting, unless it's secure boot

[01:29:10] Icedream secure boot and firmware bugs are stuff for my nightmares, that shit sucks

[01:29:16] Icedream *the combination of

[01:29:45] Icedream like i had a laptop set up for my mom to boot with secure boot and added custom keys, that fucking firmware straight up ignored the custom keys

[01:30:00] Icedream and yes it is a firmware bug, not just a missing option

[01:30:23] Icedream CrystalMath, DOS MBR can go sod off for removable devices imo

[01:30:58] Icedream also being able to control boot order properly with efi utils on linux is kinda cool

[01:31:08] Icedream sushi-chan, there's like 3 conversations in this channel alone I think lol

[01:31:20] Icedream typical IRC

[01:31:59] Icedream CrystalMath, not an XMP issue is it?

[01:32:15] Icedream linuxuser, ext4 with disabled journaling is a thing, too, afaik

[01:32:41] Icedream oh, that sucks

[01:33:07] Icedream linuxuser, I'm just saying you can do it, it's just almost never done that way lol

[01:33:46] Icedream CrystalMath, eh that would slow down all of the RAM slots wouldn't it

[01:34:00] Icedream well, technical details. the setup does work is what matters

[01:34:26] Icedream i assume it's some unique and old firmware for it to have such obvious issues

[01:34:31] Icedream sushi-chan, :o do tell!

[01:34:51] Icedream lol, how did that happen sushi-chan

[01:35:51] Icedream CrystalMath, this is one of the hacks ever

[01:36:34] Icedream sushi-chan, that's dedication

[01:37:03] Icedream i still think some spiders are too ugly for me to even consider touching them lol. good for you though!

[01:37:12] Icedream 4 WEEKS

[01:37:19] Icedream holy shit that's quick

[01:38:16] Icedream CrystalMath, I have a similar issue with a Z170 board that as soon as I want to make full use of my RAM it just kinda spirals into unstable hell. I've already toyed with replacing the motherboard but eh. Not in the mood to replace the CPU as well atm.

[01:38:39] Icedream full use as in frequency and profiling

[01:38:40] Icedream not size

[01:38:48] Icedream I have 48 GB currently installed on my main machine lol

[01:39:09] Icedream the only reason I don't have 64 GB is because the last slot is super inconvenient to put anything in so I just didn't lol

[01:39:36] Icedream sushi-chan, nothing wrong with that, that's actually pretty damn awesome

[01:40:06] Icedream I couldn't do that lol, I just want spiders to be at distance so I don't have to look at their disproportionate ratio between head and legs all day

[01:40:15] Icedream hence ugly not scary

[01:40:50] Icedream takes some convincing yourself

[01:41:33] Icedream see, the sad thing is that now means sushi-chan, you're on the exact opposite extreme end of how you are treating spiders in comparison to me

[01:41:44] Icedream if I have to remove a spider, I'll sometimes throw boxes at it lol

[01:42:29] Icedream aloo_shu, doesn't that kinda tickle?

[01:43:09] Icedream CrystalMath, heh going for the retro look I see

[01:43:18] Icedream my taste for terminal-looking keyboards could go well with that

[01:43:58] Icedream CrystalMath, you playing DOS games on it and everything?

[01:44:18] Icedream is it

[01:44:26] Icedream oh right, depends on the hardware eh

[01:44:51] Icedream I was just thinking sound and went "oh right, dosbox has decent emulation for that, where proper hardware and drivers for that is a bit of a pain in the ass"

[01:45:01] Icedream but yeah, speed is a factor as well

[01:45:14] Icedream I mean toni does sound like a guy name

[01:45:20] Icedream but it's the Internet so

[01:45:22] Icedream *shrug*

[01:45:41] Icedream I've seen bochs once and never tried it myself

[01:45:48] Icedream I just stuck with virtualbox or libvirt for running stuff lol

[01:46:05] Icedream (or vmware and even ugh, hyper-v on windows)

[01:46:47] Icedream aloo_shu, I feel like I'd particularly dislike that feeling though. Then again some spiders have hairy legs, maybe that is less noticeable

[01:47:30] Icedream toni, I'm German and I can't confirm that somehow lol

[01:47:34] Icedream Alex I can confirm

[01:47:52] Icedream CrystalMath, lol

[01:48:21] Icedream aloo_shu, well only one way to find out eh :D

[01:48:34] Icedream Maybe one day I'll also touch spiders (by accident) but I don't think I would enjoy it

[01:48:50] Icedream For very, to me at least, obvious reasons of disliking such pin-pointy touches

[01:49:06] Icedream sushi-chan, yeah I was thinking that anyways :P

[01:49:45] Icedream I just don't like the association of the tickle moving around on my skin and it's a different living thing that does it

[01:50:02] Icedream Unless that's a human I trust that is a 100% instinctive yikes and pull back for me lol

[01:50:46] Icedream then again I've been traumatized by cockroaches in shitty hotels before, so maybe it was from that

[01:51:15] Icedream CrystalMath, the fact I'm on it right now should speak volumes!

[01:51:39] Icedream sushi-chan, spiders eat lots of things

[01:51:52] Icedream I know they're useful ones, I just absolutely don't like how they look and even move sometimes lol

[01:53:09] Icedream aloo_shu, considering I'm a bit of a technical guy, you shouldn't be surprised I'm so analytical about it :P the way you said it sounds a lot nicer though, I'll give it that

[01:53:51] Icedream sushi-chan, yeah they feed off things that help them and that's what they make the webs for

[01:53:59] Icedream they get rid of flies, too, after all

[01:54:16] Icedream yea something like that

[01:54:55] Icedream i have a whole bunch of spiders in front of my window every evening because the shutters there don't work properly and just don't move that much anymore

[01:55:06] Icedream so they just settled down there and kinda live there

[01:55:40] Icedream I've not gotten around to repairing it because it has to go through the landlord

[01:56:04] Icedream $$

[01:56:13] Icedream damn it what was the command thing again

[01:56:48] Icedream yeah that's not what i wanted sushi xD

[01:57:28] Icedream aloo_shu, I know of this thing you can put on your head to massage it that lightly an it's supposed to give you similarly tingly feelings or something like that

[01:57:45] Icedream like a very gentle thin wire grabby thing

[01:58:19] Icedream i mean fair play on the name then lol

[01:58:34] Icedream as someone who listens to asmr i can appreciate the tingle effect on that

[01:58:43] Icedream yes that would be it

[01:59:21] Icedream well i didn't expect that

[02:00:05] Icedream i mean there's things to do with sensitive ears, give it nice light taps, stroke it lightly, nibble it, there's ways to stimulate with ears

[02:00:20] Icedream but normally that's considered foreplay, not the main game lol

[02:00:38] Icedream i'll say I love the q-tip thing, loved it especially as a kid

[02:00:51] Icedream nowadays just very careful with it cuz i heard the horror stories of people doing it a bit too intensely

[02:02:40] Icedream aloo_shu, oh that's good

[02:03:39] Icedream shall I outweird you in that regard?

[02:03:49] Icedream I'll say ear licking ASMR is a thing

[02:04:06] Icedream eyup ComputerTech \o

[02:04:23] Icedream you joined at the perfect time lol

[02:04:52] Icedream it's also 4:04 AM here

[02:05:02] Icedream so totally against technicalities, at 4:04 a ComputerTech was found indeed in this channel

[02:05:21] Icedream oh no lol

[02:05:44] Icedream i mean what did ya expect

[02:06:05] Icedream scooted too close to the danger zone

[02:06:14] Icedream being drunk and hurting humself?

[02:06:17] Icedream *himself?

[02:06:41] Icedream it's still his parents, and you know how parents are

[02:06:44] Icedream protective to the last bit

[02:06:58] Icedream oh that also is a thing you shouldn't do

[02:06:59] Icedream just in general lol

[02:07:13] Icedream eh, you still make yourself guilty in the process

[02:07:16] Icedream not sure if win

[02:07:35] Icedream sushi-chan, ironic since coffee puts you into overdrive

[02:07:51] Icedream ComputerTech, yep i remembered irc is a thing

[02:08:05] Icedream bruh

[02:08:19] Icedream went all out on that lol

[02:09:21] Icedream aloo_shu, I can 100% agree on the amount of trash floating about and really having to be picky to find the good stuff

[02:09:43] Icedream Being bound to data sucks for that lol

[02:09:54] Icedream sushi-chan, he's drunk

[02:11:35] Icedream aloo_shu, it's either the specific trigger I go for, it's someone who I happen to already know as a content creator who decided to jump to ASMR, or it's like one of these corners of YouTube with non-English content where they try things unconventional to ASMR but it still has "ASMR" in it so I can find it lol

[02:14:14] Icedream sushi-chan, highly depends on the who, but I do enjoy both with and without at least whisper voice. Some ASMRtists I follow have very soft natural voices or know how to not do aggressive "S" sounds, those are perfect for listening to whispers.

[02:14:31] Icedream If I go for a trigger I will usually go for non-talking ASMR though.

[02:15:04] Icedream linuxuser, let me translate: you don't give a shit about ASMR lol

[02:16:04] Icedream sushi-chan, because you expect your own movement on your skin and it dampens the effect, tingles anyways.

[02:16:38] Icedream if someone else does it you are more aware of where they are touching because you exactly don't know where it'll exactly be

[02:16:49] Icedream or even when

[02:18:38] Icedream this can go both ways btw, either good or bad. I get kinda scared when my mom helps me out with cutting my hair at home because she's the impatient, wants to get things done quick kinda person.

[02:18:50] Icedream so she can be very rough and at risk of accidentally cutting into your ear.

[02:18:53] Icedream which she did once lol

[02:19:10] Icedream awh I'm happy to be back here talking to yall as well :D

[02:19:20] Icedream at such a good timing of sushi-chan and ComputerTech joining in anyways

[02:19:36] Icedream linuxuser, ahhh. well, ASMR artists => ASMRtists. Not sure what else to call it lol.

[02:19:54] Icedream ASMRtubers

[02:20:01] Icedream which… anything tube just sounds stupid somehow lol

[02:20:05] Icedream even youtube if i think more about it

[02:20:35] Icedream aloo_shu, binaural beats don't work for me

[02:20:47] Icedream I may be a music producer but I prefer more natural sounds than that

[02:21:20] Icedream I do however like rain sounds and the kinda noise that microwaves produce, amplified to a much lower volume

[02:21:38] Icedream legit helped me fall asleep many times

[02:21:52] Icedream thanks ComputerTech :D

[02:22:45] Icedream also binaural beats itches me in a bad way ever since I found out that "432 Hz" discussions are a thing

[02:22:52] Icedream don't start with that topic ever with me anywhere near you lol

[02:23:14] Icedream sushi-chan, yeah it's very superficial

[02:23:35] Icedream makes no sense unless you just happen to you have your mind go places which… yeah "for people on drugs" sells better to the algorithm in that regard…

[02:23:44] Icedream *just happen to have your mind

[02:25:21] Icedream SoundShaman, stop this is triggering my 432 Hz tuned senses argh

[02:26:27] Icedream all I'll say is I watched Adam Neely take that 432 Hz thing apart

[02:26:50] Icedream you can slow down a song for it to sound slightly warmer or nicer, but tuning everything to 432 Hz is not a magic tool to get you "in sync with nature"

[02:26:54] Icedream that's just plain bullshit claims

[02:27:32] Icedream that does not mean there isn't a resonant frequency that naturally occurs, but there's like 100 layers of creativity in regards to music that kind of defeat the point of it

[02:29:45] Icedream I'm trying to get my ZNC hooked up to technet again

[02:29:55] Icedream but I'm mostly active on Rizon as well

[02:29:58] Icedream at least for random chats

[02:30:04] Icedream Darthkilroy, ohai

[02:30:41] Icedream all neato feato

[02:30:57] Icedream had a few tiring weeks but it's going

[02:34:32] Icedream aloo_shu, yeah it's lovely what you can do with harmonics

[02:35:59] Icedream you got no gun mate

[02:36:02] Icedream there ya go

[02:36:23] Icedream sushi-chan, still keeping up with the multiple chats? lol

[02:41:23] Icedream sushi-chan, again, opposite end for me. I suck with reading notes on paper, but put me in front of a piano, my brain will come up with melodies and chords and I'll just play them on the keys somewhat properly.

[02:41:36] Icedream The thing is I learned about intervals and where the C note should be, and I just work my way from there.

[02:42:45] Icedream sushi-chan, basically there's a group of 2 black keys and there's a group of 3 black keys and that repeats on a piano, right?

[02:43:00] Icedream the group of black keys is C# and D#. The white key left of C# is C.

[02:43:48] Icedream I think in C/C#/D/D#… not in Do Re Mi etc.

[02:44:00] Icedream cya ComputerTech, get well

[02:44:40] Icedream sushi-chan, just linking this for the image in the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtqgqYRDTDg

[02:44:56] Icedream that red dot is the C key (or you can call it "the root note" or whatever pretty much)

[02:45:42] Icedream I can do a bit of music theory but I will always be too slow to read music sheets and play them properly at the same time lol

[02:45:49] Icedream same reason I also suck at Guitar Hero o_o

[02:48:14] Icedream linuxuser, the point is it's a 5 button game. Of course it's not going to be exactly like playing a guitar, if you want that there's other games that do it. But I know enough people who are known for playing the game and also can play either a guitar or a different band-related instrument such as drums.

[02:48:49] Icedream In fact people don't even play the game like on a real guitar anymore because that's the point of the skill. You gotta be incredibly fast and figure out that system instead.

[02:49:06] Icedream sushi-chan, never did and I will now check it out :o

[02:51:36] Icedream sushi-chan, you can definitely hear the "wavyness" from controlling the pitch. But without that (cuz after all that can be trained well) that's a very nice voice

[02:52:28] Icedream if that's the case, then I guess that's just a bit much for my taste. I rather prefer a slow and not so strong vibrato to a singing voice.

[02:52:42] Icedream That one sounds like a very fast and irregular vibrato, idk if that's part of the song

[02:53:20] Icedream Oh I do hear the intended vibrato at 3:48, sushi-chan

[02:53:27] Icedream that was a good part

[02:54:08] Icedream I feel like you eased more into the song in the second half somehow, it starts to sound very, very nice there

[02:55:33] Icedream cute :D how long have you been doing covers like that?

[02:56:05] Icedream if that's just a few months of doing it, that already sounds really good

[02:56:45] Icedream you do quite some karaoke I assume then as well?

[02:57:04] Icedream because I remembered that's a thing I know Filipinos tend to do a lot… should know as a half Filipino lol

[02:57:12] Icedream yet they still almost never get to hit the right notes.

[02:57:15] Icedream :P

[02:57:22] Icedream to be fair that's more for entertainment than actual practice to most people

[02:57:51] Icedream sushi-chan, keep working on it, this voice has potential

[03:00:16] Icedream damn I got disconnected

[03:00:17] Icedream what was the last thing i said

[03:00:55] Icedream linuxuser, the region where the filipino half of my family comes from is talking bisaya as well

[03:01:08] Icedream anyways, sushi-chan, what was the last thing i said

[03:01:14] Icedream cuz I tried linking something and my ISP just went nope

[03:02:00] Icedream hello, anyone even reading this lol

[03:02:34] Icedream [04:57:51] <Icedream> sushi-chan, keep working on it, this voice has potential

[03:02:35] Icedream [04:58:29] <Icedream> cuz I did a meme take on linkin park - in the end lol

[03:02:35] Icedream [04:58:21] <Icedream> sushi-chan, you wanna hear me try to sing?

[03:02:35] Icedream [04:58:51] <Icedream> nothing serious at all though, not like I'm gonna do a bunch of covers for youtube as a channel

[03:02:35] Icedream [04:59:33] <Icedream> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8VSLDQQuLk

[03:02:44] Icedream I'm just gonna send all of what I tried to write cuz my ISP sucked

[03:04:28] Icedream aloo_shu, if you say "I is producer" shouldn't that usually say "collab bro?" next lol

[03:05:17] Icedream sushi-chan, I don't think my voice is good for anything but imitating Patrick Star but thanks lol

[03:05:26] Icedream I'm not joking about Patrick Star btw, I did that and it sounded brilliant

[03:05:32] Icedream (also of course, radio voice)

[03:08:55] Icedream sushi-chan, nah I'm trying to upload my Patrick Star take lol

[03:08:59] Icedream https://up.icedream.tech/enigma.ogg

[03:09:11] Icedream I feel more like I can do silly voice acting than singing

[03:09:25] Icedream but I'm sure that somewhat deep voice comes in nicely for some things

[03:10:09] Icedream sushi-chan, I always am but that's the whole point

[03:10:23] Icedream I don't like to think that I'm exceeding at something compared to others because that makes me look like an ego lol

[03:10:31] Icedream lol nice

[03:11:01] Icedream proper distracted you with talking about ear licking and singing, that's a wild combination of topics for a chat

[03:11:46] Icedream have a good one sushi-chan!

[03:11:49] Icedream \o

[03:12:29] Icedream aloo_shu, yeah I don't usually collab, I was just poking fun at what other producers tend to do (on Discord even urgh)

[03:12:47] Icedream too many times where I started talking about something production related and I immediately have someone sliding into DMs to "collab bro plz"

[03:13:07] Icedream like nah man, I don't do collabs since the only thing I did with DaKevinn

[03:23:01] Icedream i prefer doing stuff on my own as well, i just like stuff to sound the way i like them to sound

[03:23:05] Icedream !bef

[03:23:08] Icedream !reload

[03:23:10] Icedream !bef

[03:23:14] Icedream !bef

[03:23:35] Icedream down to the point of mastering my music myself even

[03:24:20] Icedream though I will say there are enough people out there that know better how to make music sound loud and clear than i do

[03:24:32] Icedream i just don't wanna pay for it or wait for turnarounds or anything like that lol

[03:26:08] Icedream i let soundcloud's automated system master my tracks and the problem is it just normalized on the peaks instead of actually trying to make the sound more full

[03:26:28] Icedream i think it kinda expects your music to be loud already as opposed to the industry standard way of leaving -6 to -9 dB of headroom

[03:27:27] Icedream i will say i listen to reference tracks and they do seem to sound more impactful than what i can do

[03:28:20] Icedream i tried working with paid mastering plugins, too, such as ozone. has a wizard that tries to analyze your music as well and then you can manually adjust it afterwards for whatever sound you wish to go for. except it also gives you a lot more room to fuck it up and distort the sound lol.

[03:28:47] Icedream tools are great but you gotta know how to use them to get the most out of them.

[03:28:58] Icedream first world electronic music producer issues

[03:32:48] Icedream u-he does ring a bell

[03:33:19] Icedream but yeah if i were to do this properly, i'd probably split it up into multiple processing plugins instead of just one

[03:33:36] Icedream almost ashamed to admit i still lazy-ass it for a lot of stuff and just smash FL's Maximum on the master bus

[03:33:49] Icedream but hey, it sounds good enough if you don't fuck it up

[03:34:12] Icedream (not a fan of the single band compression at all)

[03:36:07] Icedream what's a good DAW in the FLOSS world atm?

[03:36:58] Icedream I use ardour for mixing down DJ set broadcasts live as I do them, combined with my USB audio interface

[03:37:04] Icedream but I don't use ardour for actual music production

[03:37:19] Icedream like the workflows are too far apart for me to consider it covering my music production use case

[03:37:36] Icedream the most I've seen that comes close is LMMS

[03:37:46] Icedream but I was expecting LMMS to not be alternative-less

[03:43:17] Icedream bitwig seems to be a go to for more and more producers as well yea

[03:43:28] Icedream i think it was one of the first DAWs to even have collaborative features

[03:44:18] Icedream honestly though I probably wouldn't even be sitting here doubting stuff if FL Studio just existed for Linux. I already paid for that and it does the job perfectly for the most part.

[03:44:41] Icedream then again with Wine that just works as well, the VSTs are actually the issue

[03:45:05] Icedream Gentoo, because being GNU-compliant isn't even nearly my most up front important thought when I think music production

[03:45:17] Icedream at this point I just care that stuff works and right now it doesn't

[03:45:34] Icedream the ecosystem is ridden of proprietary software that needs license checks and it just breaks on Linux

[03:45:53] Icedream open source/free alternatives either are too poor in comparison or don't exist, and I mean not the DAWs or music production software, I mean the plugins.

[03:46:40] Icedream idk how we even got to that topic

[03:46:47] Icedream like yeah sure, but that's not what I was getting at?

[03:47:25] Icedream oh right, I initially asked the question but I considered the question answered

[03:47:37] Icedream I'm not complaining at all, wtf

[03:47:47] Icedream I said that's a way of getting it working for me and just for me

[03:48:05] Icedream I wished FL existed for Linux is what I said, and right now you can get it working through Wine and all

[03:48:14] Icedream it's the plugins where it falls apart, and not even LMMS or Ardour can fix that

[03:48:17] Icedream at least if I go full Linux

[03:48:25] Icedream or GNU or whatever, idc

[03:48:35] Icedream I heard of reaper

[03:48:55] Icedream I couldn't care less if I tried, Gentoo

[03:49:20] Icedream and yes, my software dev half is cringing at that as much as the music producer half of my brain

[03:50:37] Icedream aloo_shu, might give it a try if I find the time to jump back into Arch for my main PC installation

[03:50:57] Icedream won't work on my Arch laptop since it's getting way too hot lol

[03:51:02] Icedream *too hot and slow

[03:51:30] Icedream yeah, but I'm not an arch pusher

[03:51:39] Icedream I like arch for my own reasons

[03:52:23] Icedream uh. amen. alright.

[03:54:17] Icedream If I mention LTT's take on how package managers can ruin your system if you're careless enough, how many lines of response can I expect

[03:55:35] Icedream Yes he ignored the warning. But that was just the start of the shitstorm lol.

[03:56:06] Icedream He didn't. And most gamers don't.

[03:56:33] Icedream Well, be prepared for a world of degenerates then, cuz many of them are switching to Linux atm.

[03:56:40] Icedream and they *want* things to work.

[03:56:48] Icedream they don't necessarily know *how* to make them work.

[03:57:09] Icedream ^

[03:57:18] Icedream and I wouldn't recommend Arch or Gentoo or any of those distros to them either

[03:58:11] Icedream anyways, that's my cue to leave, laters \o

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