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Thursday, February 2, 2023

[02:13:18] Gentoo Serion, Sorry, only GNU people are here.

[02:14:15] Gentoo Ah yes, ᛋᛋ from iproute2.

[02:15:06] Gentoo !meow

[02:15:11] Gentoo !reload

[07:21:10] Gentoo !meow

[08:58:24] Gentoo !reload

[08:58:26] Gentoo !meow

[08:58:28] Gentoo !meow

[09:01:00] Gentoo Hasn't tyil already installed Gentoo?

[09:01:07] Gentoo Not sure about Gentoo-libre mind you.

[09:02:12] Gentoo Do it.

[09:03:38] Gentoo Gentoo does sadly have proprietary software in the tree.

[09:04:50] Gentoo There are a bunch of .ebuild's that install proprietary software. The Linux ebuild installs proprietary software as well, but at least they don't install that by default.

[09:05:20] Gentoo The bug noting that all the Linux packages have the wrong license on them is still open and is ignored.

[09:05:45] Gentoo tyil, "@FREE" includes "open source" licenses, so a few proprietary software licenses.

[09:05:50] Gentoo Direktor, I'm a GNU user.

[09:06:18] Gentoo Direktor, I want to live my life in freedom: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.en.html#four-freedoms

[09:06:25] Gentoo tyil, Just sit pretty

[09:08:05] Gentoo tyil, https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#NASA https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#ArtisticLicense

[09:08:38] Gentoo Nonfree JavaScript and clownflared, bt: https://opensource.org/licenses/Artistic-1.0 https://opensource.org/licenses/NASA-1.3

[09:08:41] Gentoo *but

[09:08:54] Gentoo Direktor, https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html

[09:09:47] Gentoo I was just linking to make my point that the "open source initiative" approves proprietary software licenses.

[09:10:15] Gentoo I was warning about clownflare, so you won't run the nonfree JavaScript on the page.

[09:11:11] Gentoo >@FREE Collection of all licenses with the freedom to use, share, modify and share modifications. This is a metaset including @FREE-SOFTWARE and @FREE-DOCUMENTS.

[09:11:39] Gentoo >@RFEE-SOFTWARE Metaset for all free software: @FSF-APPROVED @OSI-APPROVED @MISC-FREE

[09:11:44] Gentoo https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/License_groups

[09:12:47] Gentoo Then look under /var/db/repos/gentoo/licenses/Artistic

[09:15:23] Gentoo Damn that's a lot of proprietary software licenses the "OSI" has approved.

[09:15:48] Gentoo Yes.

[09:16:17] Gentoo There's no such thing as "free-er" software, software is free or it isn't.

[09:17:19] Gentoo I don't get why people assume I'm morbidly obese automatically, when I'm not.

[09:18:39] Gentoo Please do not insult me in that way.

[09:18:53] Gentoo Sure I use GNU Linux-libre for now, but Hurd is the replacement.

[09:19:19] Gentoo Direktor, If you wish to bow down to proprietary malware, go ahead.

[09:19:25] Gentoo Go and put those chains on.

[09:20:00] Gentoo Yes, you profit from making people put on the chains.

[09:20:03] Gentoo !meow

[09:21:50] Gentoo yasnug: What irc client do you use?

[09:22:03] Gentoo If you use weechat, you just need to set autojoin

[09:22:46] Gentoo Right click on channel name and autojoin

[09:23:18] Gentoo You can also make servers autojoin, so everything starts when you open hexchat

[09:24:06] Gentoo !meow

[09:24:07] Gentoo !reload

[09:26:06] Gentoo Peorth, It will never be the year of the "Linux desktop", as Linux is only a kernel and doesn't operate on its own.

[09:26:22] Gentoo The year of the GNU/Linux desktop was 1993 or so, as you could finally use a computer in freedom again.

[09:27:14] Gentoo I know full well that you're being wrong.

[09:27:28] Gentoo I can't tell if you mean systemd/Linux or GNU/Linux really.

[09:27:46] Gentoo That's not even the name of Linus's kernel, that's Linux.

[09:28:29] Gentoo yasnug: https://www.fsfla.org/ikiwiki/selibre/linux-libre/

[09:28:37] Gentoo Peorth, Nice proprietary software

[09:29:15] Gentoo Peorth, https://www.gnu.org/distros/common-distros.html#BSD

[09:29:43] Gentoo https://www.gnu.org/distros/common-distros.html#Gentoo

[09:29:54] Gentoo ACCEPT_LICENSE="-* @FSF-APPROVED @FSF-APPROVED-OTHER" works fine though

[09:30:05] Gentoo Neither.

[09:30:36] Gentoo Old intel integrated graphics works fine with all free software, not the newest ones though.

[09:30:58] Gentoo Certain older Nvidia cards work fine with only free software, but reclocking is a hit or miss.

[09:31:18] Gentoo The fastest card you can get is a 780 Ti, but the driver is somewhat crashy currently.

[09:31:45] Gentoo Meanwhile, ATI and AMD has only really ever released cards that don't work proprietary unless you load up proprietary software onto them.

[09:32:15] Gentoo Actually, certain earlier ATI cards were fine.

[09:32:47] Gentoo Nouveau works great and has better performance for certain very old Nvidia cards, but those aren't very fast.

[09:33:04] Gentoo *performance than the nvidia proprietary drivers

[09:33:59] Gentoo Why do people assume that I'm unemployed?

[09:35:13] Gentoo Based.,

[09:36:17] Gentoo It doesn't matter if they're trained and shit outside in the past - at a certain point they just start shitting inside.

[09:36:26] Gentoo *shitted

[09:36:49] Gentoo That's like $0.01 worth of gold.

[09:37:45] Gentoo I can sell you a copy of GNU Linux-libre for $20 if you want.

[09:38:06] Gentoo You can't afford $20? Are you poor?

[09:38:22] Gentoo Yes, I do work with my GNU/Linux systems.

[09:38:46] Gentoo Many free software programs do the tasks I need.

[09:39:15] Gentoo Last time I checked I'm usually right online, but I still don't coun that as work.

[09:51:35] Gentoo Was I wrong that the "OSI" approves a number of proprietary software licenses like the Artistic 1.0 and Gentoo by default has such license accepted with ACCEPT_LICENSE="-* @FREE"?

[10:07:40] Gentoo Please state how and also provide links how I did.

[10:08:27] Gentoo I'm just asking for some proof to back up your claim, as I provided proof myself.

[10:10:08] Gentoo I look at what you wrote an hour ago and you were taking my advice not to run nonfree JavaScript as advice to run it?>

[10:10:47] Gentoo Water

[10:11:59] Gentoo You can get water from eating instead you know?

[10:13:51] Gentoo Me every day of the year, but aAAAaaaAAAaaAAA.

[10:15:04] Gentoo @meow

[10:15:06] Gentoo !meow

[10:15:49] Gentoo Okay, now I just need some powder, a primer and a cartridge case.

[10:17:14] Gentoo Yes, a prime example of that is how Linux is proprietary software.

[10:17:32] Gentoo GNU bash in the proper way to operate a computer, indeed.

[10:19:25] Gentoo Hmm, it could potentially be less free than the GPLv2, as the zsh license requires acceptance just to use the software, but it seems to include GPLv2 licensed software as well

[10:21:09] Gentoo >Permission is hereby granted, without written agreement and without licence or royalty fees, to use, copy, modify, and distribute this software and to distribute modified versions of this software for any purpose, provided that the above copyright notice and the following two paragraphs appear in all copies of this software.

[10:21:42] Gentoo GPLv2: 5. You are not required to accept this License, since you have not signed it. However, nothing else grants you permission to modify or distribute the Program or its derivative works.

[10:22:59] Gentoo Sure ZSH is a free software license, as including a copyright notice and 2 paragraphs is reasonable, but requiring acceptance for usage is a massive overstep of what copyright restricts.

[10:28:48] Gentoo >Tfw Theodore's latest book is under a proprietary license.

[10:31:08] Gentoo You are asking me to commit evil?

[10:31:40] Gentoo Unless that software happens to be 100% free.

[10:32:54] Gentoo Ted expects me to be able to read spanish?

[10:34:04] Gentoo !meow

[10:34:18] Gentoo >The Home Office, also known as the Home Department, is a ministerial department of His Majesty's Government, responsible for immigration, security, and law and order

[10:35:24] Gentoo >Text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0

[10:36:05] Gentoo Quoting a single sentence does not infringe copyright btw/

[10:39:26] Gentoo I was hoping you would link to teddit instead of nonfree JavaScript with that link fix, but I was dissapointed.

[10:40:42] Gentoo I'll take note of any legitimate criticisms you have of me.

[10:41:17] Gentoo My does btw, but I'm worried about others really.

[10:42:37] Gentoo Where did I write I was offended?

[10:44:21] Gentoo Well I always use literal words to convey a specific meaning when writing myself.

[10:44:44] Gentoo I have 2 jobs tyil.

[10:45:41] Gentoo Hmm, I want to be a NEET even more now.

[10:46:18] Gentoo Family, society and proprietary software says no.

[10:46:53] Gentoo You need to bleach your skin then, but that's kind of lethal. Even so called "whites" have pink skin,

[10:47:12] Gentoo I forgot about albinos, those are actually white.

[11:00:30] Gentoo Do it next year is my advice.

[11:08:24] Gentoo !meow

[11:08:28] Gentoo !reload

[11:40:10] Gentoo Vehicles that won't go over a speedbump? Huh.

[11:44:04] Gentoo !meow

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