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Thursday, May 11, 2023
[00:08:20] superkuh Praise the sun. It's clearly most worthy. http://suntoday.lmsal.com/sdomedia/SunInTime/mostrecent/f0171.jpg
[00:09:08] superkuh Radiation is great.
[00:09:15] superkuh Just go easy on the ionizing bits.
[05:27:37] superkuh That snake looks like a stephan wolfram book cover.
[23:06:44] superkuh These days the number of libertarians who are cunts does make it hard to tell. But I think there's still some decent ideology there.
[23:11:04] superkuh legit enough, concentrate on positive liberty, which is about making sure everyone as the resources necessary to achieve an outcome.
[23:11:04] superkuh Libertarian ideals are mostly based of Isiah Berlin's "Two Concepts of Liberty" in which the differentiation between being prevented from doing something (negative liberty) and being able to do something because you have the resources to do so (positive liberty) is stressed. Libertarians are all about negative liberty and concentrating on not being prevented from doing things that don't directly hurt others. Other ideologies,
[23:12:33] superkuh MatCat, yeah, that's negative liberty.
[23:14:39] superkuh MatCat, that is certainly now how the meaning was interpreted back in the 1950s when it informed a good deal of US international policy.
[23:14:51] superkuh But sure, project backwards whatever warped modern framing you want.
[23:15:33] superkuh If some idiot is going to think it's bad because it's negative then they probably aren't going to be reading political philosophy essays. Although, here we are...
[23:16:04] superkuh I think internal consistency and clarity matters more here than potential "optics".
[23:19:32] superkuh In this specific case I can say without worry that you are projecting. Isaiah Berlin was not trying to make the concept of negative liberty "bad" since that was the type of governance he advised.
[23:19:46] superkuh But I guess that's using words as weapons again.
[23:23:19] superkuh Ok.
[23:26:53] superkuh I'm surprised but it's plausible enough.
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