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Friday, September 22, 2023

[00:32:58] tankashilla do you guys explaining in what way are you connected to computer technology?

[00:33:25] tankashilla nice

[00:33:49] tankashilla s/explaining/care to explain/

[00:36:42] tankashilla hey ADMIRAL_HUBRIS is my friend too, am i right? :)

[00:37:32] tankashilla thankies

[00:37:59] tankashilla i came here to chat because there are lots of active people here

[00:39:31] tankashilla ertz now that you mention, this place kinda reminds me of one :)

[01:21:09] tankashilla is it really fun to go into a casino and gift them your money for playing lowiq games that depends 100% on luck? i've heard Las Vegas is also a place for serious music events, i would visit those instead of casinos.

[01:21:53] tankashilla i know, i mentioned one

[01:22:52] tankashilla why is seafood so popular there when it's so far away from the sea?

[01:23:22] tankashilla i see

[01:28:24] tankashilla betting money on a dice or a roulette table is not a wise thing in my opinion.

[01:28:35] tankashilla i know there are other games too

[01:36:49] tankashilla gnu/linux vs systemd/linux

[01:37:06] tankashilla as i refer to them usually

[01:42:43] tankashilla that's not true

[01:42:49] tankashilla you can use both

[01:42:59] tankashilla in fact, most distributions today do

[01:46:33] tankashilla btw, official linux also is proprietary. because it contains proprietary blobs. that's why the linux-libre fork is made, and used by many, which is free and open

[01:48:07] tankashilla why is it certainly not open source?

[01:53:46] tankashilla Gentoo, well, maybe i didn't know the full correct meaning of the word "open-source". By it, i only meant, you can get pure source code, and 100% replicate the software from it. This is possible with linux-libre, and not possible with the simple linux, for example because of that blob you also linked. I'm aware that free software means a lot more than that, but that is a must have, to be free

[01:53:52] tankashilla software.

[01:55:00] tankashilla >The freedom to study how the program works, and change it so it does your computing as you wish (freedom 1). Access to the source code is a precondition for this.

[01:55:07] tankashilla i thought open source only means this

[01:55:16] tankashilla that's why i said it's open source

[01:56:39] tankashilla probably because it's a bit unethical to get two simple common english nouns, and give them a new definition at your will.

[01:57:58] tankashilla thanks for the recommendation, i will use that from now on

[01:59:37] tankashilla i'm a bit butthurt when people give new meaning to common words in these orwellesque ways

[02:02:14] tankashilla free originally had these two meanings in every dictionary since ever. so it's not changing meanings.

[02:02:36] tankashilla free as in freedom or free as in free of charge, that's why we say it, to clarify

[02:04:54] tankashilla well, for the free of charge things, we use the word "freeware", usually

[02:05:07] tankashilla those can be totally closed, just don't want money

[02:05:57] tankashilla never heard of this gratis thing, is this your own invention?

[02:08:37] tankashilla i'm aware the word itself exists and means this

[02:08:53] tankashilla i was curious if you started to use to those kind of software yourself

[02:11:30] tankashilla i see what you mean

[02:16:48] tankashilla Gentoo: how far are you willing to go, to avoid proprietary software? All components of your OS i guess, what about firmwares of motherboard chipsets (corebooting/librebooting), what about using non-free network services (not just the internet, but cellphone networks too included), what about non-free coprocessor firmware on CPUs (Intel ME or AMD PSP)? What about nonfree software on the onboard

[02:16:53] tankashilla computer of modern automobiles? etc etc

[02:18:25] tankashilla From all these, cellphones would be the hardest to dump for me.

[02:18:38] tankashilla Probably if i wasn't a wagie, i could drop those too, easily

[02:19:04] tankashilla is your nick Gentoo because you use and like to use Gentoo?

[02:20:29] tankashilla free versions? are there some pre-made versions like that, or do you mean a version you built up during use? (I used Gentoo for 4 years, and for a short time before that, Funtoo)

[02:21:11] tankashilla oh that is true

[02:22:11] tankashilla i see

[02:24:19] tankashilla both proprietary and free software can be faulty and often they are. the difference is that you have chance to fix the free software, with proprietary, if it's fucked, you are fucked

[02:27:17] tankashilla reverse engineering is a "tiny bit" more effort, than just fixing source code, especially if proper documentation is available for it

[02:28:55] tankashilla i didn't say impossible, i said you are fucked if you have to do. it's not impossible to walk through the Sahara desert barefoot, but still, you are fucked if you have to do that.

[02:30:26] tankashilla That's another level of depth i didn't even think of, Gentoo

[02:31:18] tankashilla for example i thought "avoid using youtube even if you have free wrappers for it", but i never thought about actual hardware infrastructure behind otherwise software-wise free services...

[02:31:27] tankashilla interesting to think about

[02:33:04] tankashilla Some ISPs are just total asshats btw. They put this glowbox into my home, and do not allow me to set it to bridge mode, to connect my OpenWRT router behind it and use it for routing

[02:33:42] tankashilla same

[02:33:47] tankashilla i hate them

[02:35:46] tankashilla Nowadays, ME can be mostly eradicated. Not from every CPU model, and not totally. And it has serious side effects, for example killing energy managment too. But at least it's only running a script, back in the day, we had to connect an SBC between the CPU and the motherboard and run a specific softwareon that, that accessed the ME

[02:37:30] tankashilla yes but it's like a hundredth of the original size

[02:39:44] tankashilla btw, i have DOCSIS glowbox, the Iudean Service Provider checks the integrity of the firmware from the analog side, can do upgrades, modifications, data dumps, delete options, it's basically out of question to put OpenWRT on it (it doesn't exist ofc)

[02:41:12] tankashilla ME has complete access to everything the CPU does, basically.

[02:42:23] tankashilla Even if it is totally harmless (which would be a fairy tale), it is the hugest security risk imaginable.

[02:46:58] tankashilla Gentoolman also mentioned SSD firmwares. It is a well known fact, that NSA has stockpiles of HDDs and SSDs with modified firmwares, and they can put that into the order of a person (with the help of agents at the postal service, or otherwise), and make them use that cyberhumped harddrive. Modified firmwares like those can accomplain things like not removing files they got a command to remove,

[02:47:04] tankashilla multiplying and deleting files without a command to do so, copy and send cryptographic keys and other sensitive information from the hard drive, or making statistics from using patterns useful for spying, and many many other things.

[02:48:12] tankashilla maybe even more

[02:48:19] tankashilla did i say it's breaking news?

[02:49:06] tankashilla they do this exact thing with smartphones too, that's for sure

[02:49:57] tankashilla There are some scenarios tho

[02:50:37] tankashilla i guess you mean how can the broadband processor take over the control over the main soc.. but some people literally rip out the antenna for mobile service.

[02:52:07] tankashilla that's because they didn't know they will want to catch that person when that person started to use that phone. if they prepare in time, they can make him use a cyberhumped phone

[02:55:14] tankashilla well, true

[02:59:14] tankashilla both parties send fake SMSs and Phonecalls to enemy soldiers on the battlefield in Ukraine _constantly_, since at least 2014. They can replicate everything about a legit phonecall or sms, and they can do this en masse, by the hundreds, under minutes.

[03:01:11] tankashilla the question is not how many saw, the question is: how many had a cheeky wank to them

[03:03:00] tankashilla Gentoo they still have to know who is who and which message should be sent to which soldier.

[03:03:31] tankashilla for this to be an effective tactic

[03:05:30] tankashilla You probably overestimate the officiality of phone usage in easern europe. People just get a SIM they can find or swap for a sandwich, buy used phone for 5 packs of cigarettes, and that won't be in the service provider database

[03:07:14] tankashilla when you say image of your phone, you mean they cloned the complete internal storage (with all partitions included) from your phone, and stored it indefinitely?

[03:08:14] tankashilla But they are in trenches in a steppe, hiding from mortars, when this is happening. not many house addresses there.

[03:08:37] tankashilla esjay that's pretty CLAMPED

[03:08:52] tankashilla yes

[03:10:16] tankashilla esjay Clamp is that device that uses a screw to very strongly push two surfaces together. They use that, to push your balls until it doesn't get blood and dies, effectively turning you into a sissy

[03:10:40] tankashilla good point gentoo

[03:15:20] tankashilla anyway, would it be viable to hold some important partitions of a smartphone on SD card instead of internal, and if anybody demands an image, just take out sd, give it to them and let them copy the dummy partition? i remember we did replacing system partitions to sd card, back when phones had too small internal storage to fit our apps

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