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[03:32:42] Kanabit guys, Location based service. I need to find my phone

[03:32:52] Kanabit where is the software?

[03:32:59] Kanabit anybody know?

[03:33:20] Kanabit my phone is turned on, no wifi, but cell phone towers still ping

[03:33:41] Kanabit I have a personal audio recording on it

[03:44:48] Kanabit Android Bluview 2

[03:46:38] Kanabit I tried logging into the google account I made for the phone it reverts me back to "My Devices is available for Google Workspace Enterprise Plus customers"

[03:47:05] Kanabit keep in mind, wifi is not on

[03:47:48] Kanabit I never activated a cell phone service

[03:48:08] Kanabit my smart phone is a android device

[03:49:12] Kanabit I did however connect the smart phone once to wifi

[03:49:19] Kanabit and made a google account

[03:49:40] Kanabit I believe all google will tell me is the loaction is at my house. After I created the google account I turned off wifi

[03:49:45] Kanabit that was a couple of days ago

[03:50:16] Kanabit fast forward today, I took this smart phone I took it a few places. When I got home. Later on, I discovered it was missing

[03:50:28] Kanabit I looked in my car I couldn't find it. I looked in my room I cant find it

[03:50:56] Kanabit Now my research indicates there is a service called LBS (Location based service)

[03:51:12] Kanabit freewifi, well not exactly. Not according to Location based service technology

[03:52:34] Kanabit well, the phone is still on, it still is tracked by cell phone towers

[03:53:20] Kanabit every once in a while even if wifi is off, even if there is no cell phone service. You get popped up emergency messages.

[03:53:37] Kanabit Now I believe Cell phone towers can still hit or track the phones. Or satellite possibly?

[03:53:52] Kanabit How do I know my phone is still on. I always leave my phones on 24/7

[03:55:24] Kanabit why is that?

[03:56:36] Kanabit What do you mean?

[03:57:42] Kanabit oh come on, can life give me a break here

[03:58:50] Kanabit I can sacrifice the phone but one little problem

[03:59:20] Kanabit freewifi, oh I never thought about that. Maybe someone didn't steal, maybe someone took it to try and find who owns it

[03:59:32] Kanabit there is a google account made on it

[03:59:57] Kanabit good point, but now why can't I login to that account on google to tracfone

[04:00:56] Kanabit [20:56] <Kanabit> I tried going to android website and go to find phone, it brings me to google goes "My devices is available for Google Workspace Enterprise Plus Customers" I go to sign in, I choose my account and bring me back to the same page hmm

[04:01:03] Kanabit freewifi, I did and thats what happens

[04:01:27] Kanabit I mean track the phone as in find phone on android which leads to google

[04:02:47] Kanabit Don't tell me I got to pay a service to google ? :/

[04:04:30] Kanabit well, okay I'm going to sound a little uneducated here

[04:05:03] Kanabit I signed up that google account with the same ip address. The same ip address I'm using the desktop computer. Why would that be indicating the phone is not mine?

[04:05:24] Kanabit oh the company has to do it

[04:05:34] Kanabit I called up the carrier and they told me there was nothing they can do

[04:05:47] Kanabit yes the phone is mine, I bought it with my own money I have the receipt

[04:07:17] Kanabit wait a second, I did call the carrier, maybe the carrier deactivated it?

[04:07:25] Kanabit what?

[04:08:49] Kanabit Maybe, I think they would have told me if they would have done that

[04:09:21] Kanabit tracfone

[04:09:34] Kanabit maybe I can get in touch with google support

[04:10:19] Kanabit google will take it as a security issue

[04:10:45] Kanabit yeah, I don't think google has support

[04:11:03] Kanabit Peorth, yes I logged into the play store to get a few apps, I think it was two days ago I believe

[04:12:51] Kanabit Peorth, phone is on, no cell service, wifi is off.

[04:13:14] Kanabit although, freewifi indicates if it was found, maybe someone turned wifi on

[04:13:39] Kanabit I wonder how I remote install find my droid on it

[04:13:48] Kanabit I'll research

[04:14:11] Kanabit wait, you are suggesting I use another google play account install that app, and then try something. I'm lost here

[04:15:08] Kanabit freewifi, Peroth didn't have that information when he told me that

[04:15:27] Kanabit how do I do it?

[04:15:58] Kanabit Peorth maybe assuming I can login to my account, but google is not letting me

[04:16:21] Kanabit as you indicated, it think its not my phone

[04:16:37] Kanabit Isn't there a third party software that can do this without google?

[04:18:01] Kanabit the link is from android dot com, and you click on find my device

[04:18:21] Kanabit mydevices.google.com

[04:19:30] Kanabit wait let me login to my google account that I made with my smart phone once

[04:22:14] Kanabit okay here is what is going on, I logged in using the mydevices link, I go to my profile with my smart phone account. But when I use your link, it's still on my original desktop firefox account. essentially I'm logged into two accounts at once now

[04:22:43] Kanabit how do I get to myaccount.google device activity link rather than opening up a new tab, it's not showing that other account

[04:23:34] Kanabit got it

[04:23:49] Kanabit something is showing at 7:44 am

[04:23:58] Kanabit wait a second nov 3

[04:24:02] Kanabit oh man thats not going to help

[04:24:35] Kanabit alright that means the found wasnt found and wifi is not enabled hmm

[04:25:05] Kanabit I think I left it at this private property

[04:25:24] Kanabit well, it's either in my car, room, or at this private property location

[04:26:01] Kanabit yes

[04:27:08] Kanabit you know what, remember when I told you that some how they can send emergency signals to phones and it makes noises. I wonder how they do that. It's also true that no wifi and no cell phone service is activated when it does that

[04:27:29] Kanabit how do I do that?

[04:29:55] Kanabit Location Based Service software

[04:30:02] Kanabit I read the technology

[04:30:43] Kanabit wait a second lol

[04:31:38] Kanabit NO lol, I just realized if I did leave it this private property location, the receptionist would have noticed, they have my name and number. I would have gotten a call. I did not

[04:32:06] Kanabit oh well, I guess I got to keep looking

[04:32:15] Kanabit yeah

[04:32:21] Kanabit The building is closed

[04:32:35] Kanabit I'll just look around for a while

[04:33:11] Kanabit I bet there is other software

[04:33:40] Kanabit thanks for your help

[04:35:25] Kanabit one little problem. I put a audio recording on there.

[04:35:36] Kanabit I recorded a phone call

[04:35:59] Kanabit from my job, what if someone finds it, and turns it into my work place

[04:36:03] Kanabit I'll be in trouble

[04:36:24] Kanabit although I doubt it anyone would care, they just take the phone and keep it or throw it away I think

[04:36:50] Kanabit it will be a sacrificed phone, I don't care if I lose this phone

[04:37:11] Kanabit I can probably delete the google account, there is nothing personal on there.

[04:37:38] Kanabit fake name

[04:38:30] Kanabit or they could call google or email support or still turn on wifi, I will wait

[04:39:24] Kanabit they could call my tracfone carrier hmm not sure

[04:41:29] Kanabit LOL

[04:41:41] Kanabit oh that's all I need is the cops contacting me

[04:42:25] Kanabit I suppose I can contact my carrier and let them know the situation

[04:43:07] Kanabit oh wait a second, I did take a picture

[04:43:15] Kanabit a note

[04:43:36] Kanabit well, whatever lol

[04:46:06] Kanabit that does bring a interesting question, if someone turns it into the police, well they look through the phone without a warrant?

[04:50:06] Kanabit you know speaking of phones

[04:50:16] Kanabit the iphone is a real shitty phone

[04:51:11] Kanabit why does a $300 phone only have only have a 12mp camera?

[04:51:31] Kanabit iphonese 2022 3rd generation

[04:52:24] Kanabit Samsung galaxy A14 which is $129 phone at least have 50mp

[05:02:06] Kanabit Sure it has a better processor

[05:02:28] Kanabit !rules

[05:02:40] Kanabit What are the rules of the channel?

[05:08:46] Kanabit I'll buy the phone then

[05:41:22] Kanabit Peorth, I'm curious although, what is the theory as to why they didn't make it at least 50mp ? What theory do you have?

[12:51:11] Kanabit "WEA-capable mobile devices in that zone can receive the alert," "WEA allows government officials to send emergency alerts to all subscribers with WEA-capable devices if their wireless carrier participates in the program." "To receive a WEA message, your handset must be WEA-capable, switched on, not on "airplane mode," and in the vicinity of and receiving service from a cell tower of a

[12:51:11] Kanabit wireless carrier that participates in WEA."

[12:52:20] Kanabit It is possible to send an alert to a smart phone that is turned on. It will make a noise, I may able to find a smart phone. But it's only the FCC government that can do it?

[12:52:33] Kanabit Anyone know how they do this?

[12:53:40] Kanabit I'm just looking at all possiblities to find my smart phone

[12:53:54] Kanabit yes

[12:54:31] Kanabit Yes, I have that feature, if someone were to turn on wifi on my phone, google can track the phone. But it's only when and if someone turns on the wifi

[12:55:18] Kanabit yournamehere, wait how did you do it?

[12:55:52] Kanabit 4/5 g, well my smart phone has not activated a service yet

[12:56:55] Kanabit I think the last two methods are software that uses "Location Based Service" LBS, do you know where I can find this software?

[12:57:26] Kanabit my smart phone will have maybe 2 more days left before the battery dies

[12:58:39] Kanabit Mikoolo, I used google find my phone have the account logged in.

[12:59:00] Kanabit Frogorg, how do I make it make this awful noise?

[12:59:09] Kanabit oh blue tooth, maybe that's enabled by default

[13:01:01] Kanabit looking

[13:01:55] Kanabit Mikoolo, I cant find that what I see is play sound, secure device, erase device

[13:02:22] Kanabit I'll go to google maps,

[13:02:40] Kanabit when I try that it says connecting, never connects

[13:02:46] Kanabit but I'm going to google maps

[13:03:54] Kanabit alright I'm on my timeline, Mikoolo, what's next?

[13:04:12] Kanabit Frogorg, it's not connected to the internet. Internet is off

[13:04:56] Kanabit picked Nov 7

[13:05:16] Kanabit Frogorg, it has no cell phone service yet activated

[13:05:51] Kanabit not seeing that

[13:06:33] Kanabit let me check that setting on another exact phone I have

[13:07:04] Kanabit It's interesting, the default feature has the "location set on off"

[13:07:21] Kanabit it was default off by default, darn

[13:07:42] Kanabit I wonder if bluetooth is on by default, let me check

[13:08:32] Kanabit "Emergency Location Service" is on by default

[13:10:04] Kanabit Call the phone, it has no number tied to it hmm?

[13:10:31] Kanabit Mikoolo, wait I think there is a sim card in the phone by default

[13:11:26] Kanabit this type of a phone probably has already one in, it's just that you have to set it up with a phone number.

[13:11:37] Kanabit Mikoolo, well still working on retracing my steps

[13:12:03] Kanabit Blu B131DL

[13:13:41] Kanabit Still FCC has a WEA system that can send out a alert to all smart phones and they make a noise, aslong as the phone is on, and not in airplane mode

[13:15:16] Kanabit LBS Location based service, I wonder if there is special software, the claim is it's not as accurate as other

[13:17:08] Kanabit https://www.techtarget.com/searchnetworking/definition/location-based-service-LBS

[13:18:37] Kanabit "mobile network"

[13:20:55] Kanabit I can still make a call on it an emergency mode. So therefore, it is still tracked via cell phone towers

[13:21:26] Kanabit regardless if you have a cell phone service connected

[13:23:16] Kanabit Well, Frogorg, not tracked

[13:23:25] Kanabit I'm not saying tracked

[13:24:18] Kanabit Frogorg, I don't need to trac the phone, I want to have the phone make a noise

[13:26:21] Kanabit I'm talking about the WEA alerts

[13:26:45] Kanabit gives a signal and vibration.

[13:28:31] Kanabit Mikoolo, yeah, I guess it's possible for the government to do it

[13:29:13] Kanabit well, it's $30

[13:29:46] Kanabit There is kind of a personal piece of information on it

[13:29:55] Kanabit Worries me a little bit

[13:35:05] Kanabit bluetooth scanner app "This kind of app detects and lists all Bluetooth devices broadcasting nearby."

[13:40:41] Kanabit Wait it is on by default

[13:41:09] Kanabit So it's true bluetooth is on by default on these phones

[13:41:58] Kanabit Wait, how do I track all bluetooth devices?

[13:43:13] Kanabit I may have got lucky here

[13:56:21] Kanabit sigh

[14:02:53] Kanabit even though blue tooth is on by default on these phones, the blue tooth scanner is not detecting them. That's odd

[14:08:49] Kanabit oh no, even if bluetooth is enabled, location services still had to be enabled :(

[14:15:29] Kanabit wait a second

[14:17:03] Kanabit yeah?

[14:28:06] Kanabit I can't figure out why blutooth scanner doesn't detect these phone even with blutooth enabled and evne with location services on. I have all the blutooth addresses

[14:29:02] Kanabit Mikoolo, are you there? are you there?

[14:30:33] Kanabit well, I'm not an expert on bluetooth

[15:49:06] Kanabit Location services did not have to be turn on, for phone to be detected. My carrier has indicated that bluetooth is on by default. "I went to bluetooth" did not change a setting. I found a phone.

[15:49:48] Kanabit Why is it a bluetooth phone that is on by default cannot be found. But no real setting change can finally find a phone? How odd.

[15:51:09] Kanabit I'm not sure what causes the phone to finally detect the phone.

[15:51:33] Kanabit but blutooth is on by default. And phone can't be found. I'm expermienting with those phone

[15:51:40] Kanabit okay let me see

[15:53:06] Kanabit no, I mean I have a blu tooth scanner

[15:53:25] Kanabit it wont find this model of a phone and yet the phone is blutooth on by default

[15:54:16] Kanabit yeah, with that app

[15:54:24] Kanabit what's that app called?

[15:55:30] Kanabit bluetooth scanner Zoltan

[15:55:54] Kanabit the app is the scanner

[15:56:04] Kanabit zof, yes, I wonder if there are better ones

[15:56:54] Kanabit zof, thanks

[15:57:02] Kanabit mikoolo, don't worry I'm almost done

[15:57:14] Kanabit in 3 days when the phones turns off automatically I'll probably give up

[15:57:39] Kanabit Mikoolo, the point is, if I get a very expensive blu tooth device finder. It maybe possible to find it

[15:57:46] Kanabit maybe not

[15:58:18] Kanabit Mikoolo, well maybe I can return it

[15:58:51] Kanabit zof, well, I'm running a test first. I have test phones with the same model

[15:59:30] Kanabit zof, I hate losing things. It's a pet peeve

[16:00:15] Kanabit and with a phone, that makes me kind of nervous

[16:02:26] Kanabit I should just have a camera in my room. That way I would know for sure if I did lose it in my room.

[16:02:48] Kanabit nah

[16:02:59] Kanabit exactly

[16:07:41] Kanabit No internet, that would suck

[16:07:57] Kanabit I always need internet

[16:10:57] Kanabit Mikoolo, what do you think the reason is they put that iphone only at 12mp instead of 50mp? I mean MP doesn't mean everything on a phone. I get that, but why have it so low is my honest question. I wonder if I can contact them to ask

[16:11:22] Kanabit I mean that starts out as a $350 phone

[16:11:44] Kanabit to a consumer it could look a little bad

[16:11:53] Kanabit maybe to a stupid consumer like myself

[16:12:52] Kanabit Well, you missed the point of the conversation

[16:13:06] Kanabit someone did

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