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[00:14:20] ski wossat ?/ll_new flying

[00:31:40] ski .. might help to lure some people into retro computing, perhaps

[00:58:17] ski TheFatherMind : probably healthy

[03:27:45] ski nn

[03:30:31] ski mrinfinity : any insight into Marjory Stewart-Baxter ?

[03:41:19] ski oh. sorry then, carry on

[04:43:58] ski mrinfinity : sorry to hear about your mom

[04:44:07] ski Syndus : good to hear he's doing better

[04:44:13] ski (what does "f" mean ?)

[04:44:43] ski ty

[04:45:01] ski (i've seen it mentioned before, and probably also seen it some stream chat, but didn't know what it meant)

[04:50:55] ski mhm

[04:51:10] ski ("cow-pasture" meaning it's relatively tranquil, not that much happening ?)

[04:53:49] ski good evening

[05:01:08] ski no bef

[05:17:44] ski ah, ic

[05:23:55] ski i believe building community, especially locally, is part of the solution, yes

[05:25:11] ski people acting makes waves

[05:26:30] ski families, communities, associations, regions, interest groups, &c. have a fractal, nested, nature

[05:27:14] ski people are affected more by good examples than one may realize

[05:28:15] ski that's also setting a good example

[05:28:38] ski good followers are needed as much as good leaders

[05:29:35] ski making oneself useful is a good practice

[05:30:07] ski i used to volunteer a bit, at a local bike kitchen, also colocated with a hacker space, and some other activities

[05:31:26] ski .. however, they then had to move to a worse location, and that location no longer exists now. there's one or a few more, smaller, locations that they spawned, but that's further away from where i frequent, so i don't tend to get there as often. when i do, i still try to stick around a bit more and help or just socialize

[05:32:09] ski getting physical, or interacting face-to-face, is something else, yea

[05:32:48] ski i've experienced most bliss, when i've been helping people, focusing on them, forgetting myself

[05:33:18] ski i'm an introvert, so i don't as easily socialize. but i've learned, in maybe last eight years, that i can enjoy it

[05:33:40] ski so .. i don't think it sounds weird, no

[05:36:30] ski what kind of stuff are you going to volunteer with ?

[05:37:07] ski i do ?

[05:37:37] ski unlike some other times ?

[05:38:01] ski what would you do with fire department ? perhaps you don't know yet

[05:38:03] ski oh

[05:39:13] ski well .. i have more explicitly tried to practice patience, for perhaps the last fifteen years or so. and a bit later, more gradually, also more stuff, like patience, temperance, tolerance, equanimity, unconcern, imperviousness, moderation, &c.

[05:39:27] ski (amongst other things)

[05:41:28] ski you might not find what fits, immediately. but reaching out, will probably make it more likely to find something you can be of use with. and some people might take notice, perhaps suggest or mention something else

[05:42:01] ski (and i was relatively patient, to begin with, i'd say)

[06:20:35] ski meow

[06:21:25] ski listening to a little music, feeling wistful

[06:22:35] ski Godsmack, and Tarja

[06:28:22] ski crystallovely : well, perhaps you could try "Lonely" in 2018-12-21 at <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vzMmfQlBH4>,"Innocence" in 2019-05-31 at <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBsqrLySseU>, both by Nathan Wagner ?

[06:29:44] ski crystallovely : feel what, at a café ? you were at a café recently ?

[06:30:03] ski sorry, the mission ?

[06:30:11] ski mhm

[06:31:23] ski "seeit was ? you." -- how do you mean ?

[06:32:42] ski (just recently someone (forgot whom, although i think it was in here) mentioned that Godsmack song, and i guess i was still trying to listen to it a bit)

[06:34:03] ski crystallovely : i guess one could say those songs were about the self (the last one also about relation to others)

[06:45:50] ski oh, i got sandwich as well

[06:52:21] ski El Cid ?

[07:09:02] ski i'd assume natives notice i'm not a native english speaker, as well

[07:10:48] ski Ice` : boeuf ?

[07:11:07] ski yes, it's the accent i meant

[07:13:01] ski jawohl

[07:14:17] ski yeap

[07:14:43] ski (Joan of Lorraine, and all that)

[07:15:57] ski François Bourgeon has a nice series of three comic albums, "Les Compagnons du Crépuscule", taking place at the time of the hundred years war

[07:19:07] ski nini, pleasant dreams

[07:22:46] ski you freeze them ?

[07:25:15] ski prov ?

[07:28:28] ski sounds interesting

[08:28:44] ski ("pig out" ?)

[08:32:13] ski i've heard some people say they may get nightmares, if they eat spicy food

[08:32:52] ski mhm

[09:20:19] ski lo

[09:29:16] ski hum .. sun's shining. unexpected

[11:11:19] ski ComputerTech : you need zinc and copper, too

[11:14:16] ski who's the goat ?

[11:15:48] ski (in "Cadaver: The Last Supper", taking place somewhere called the "Ziegenhoff")

[11:16:25] ski (iirc, developed by "Soldiers of Hell", rather than Bitmap Brothers / Bruderbund)

[11:16:56] ski how chilly is it, ComputerTech ?

[11:20:44] ski then they'll be surprised when you succeed with something

[11:33:02] ski ComputerTech : made any snow grotto ?

[11:33:22] ski yea, but excavated

[11:33:35] ski from a pile of large snow boulders

[11:34:21] ski (with gloves, obviously)

[11:34:49] ski (iirc, there's a level in Quake called "Grisly Grotto" ?)

[11:35:49] ski how old were you at the time, Mikoolo ?

[11:36:35] ski guess i was around that age, as well

[11:36:48] ski except one time, later, when i showed my nephew how to do it

[11:37:51] ski we had a villa, with a largish garden

[11:37:56] ski (not on the countryside)

[11:41:15] ski bonjour, sushi-chan

[11:41:36] ski hope you're feeling well, today

[11:42:09] ski a bit hungry, but fine, ty

[11:43:22] ski you've no snow there, i'm assuming, sushi-chan

[11:44:07] ski how about Central Masif ?

[11:44:17] ski or Haute-Compte ?

[11:45:17] ski sushi-chan : Mikoolo linked to <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcDFgir_jgY>, just before your entry

[11:46:11] ski did you get to play around in the snow, as a kid ?

[11:46:29] ski sand is however not cool in the dessert

[11:46:43] ski (except if it's icecream, perhaps)

[11:47:09] ski allo Ice`

[11:47:30] ski in onion there's strength

[11:48:12] ski well, there's been toad rains, and fish rains

[11:48:20] ski sure

[11:48:35] ski probably not that

[11:48:38] ski at least not commonly

[11:49:08] ski though, some spiders climb up into a high tree, let out a spider thread, let it be captured by the wind, and then travel some kilmetres with the wind

[11:50:23] ski anyway, a tornado can sometimes move out over water, and suck up some amount of water, e.g. including frogs, toads, or schools of fish .. and then later deposit them somewhere else

[11:50:35] ski it's not that common, but it happens

[11:50:50] ski Charles Fort spent many years documenting strange things, like that

[11:51:09] ski never heard of tornado picking up diarrhea

[11:51:36] ski no, whirlpool is the water going out the sink/bathtub

[11:51:49] ski or, sometimes in the sea (outside the coast of Norway is one famous one, iirc)

[11:52:02] ski perhaps near Saint Malo, as well

[11:52:25] ski yea, sand from Sahara is sometimes carried across the mediterranean

[11:52:35] ski land shark, Ice`

[11:53:55] ski a slark ?

[11:54:29] ski a flumeride could have shark tunnels, i guess

[11:56:08] ski (and the `['s as well, i guess)

[11:56:37] ski hm, is that bonne anne or somesuch ?

[11:57:59] ski hm, yea, Anne was a queen, in the UK

[11:58:23] ski ici, Ice`

[11:58:35] ski (yea, i know "ici" doesn't mean "i see")

[11:58:55] ski "here", i think ?

[11:59:25] ski part of it takes place in Calais

[11:59:52] ski they had a few statues of Joan, in that level

[12:00:42] ski do you sometimes calle rain, "douche" ?

[12:01:27] ski right, Mikoolo

[12:01:59] ski there's a dependent programming language called Coq. named after Thierry (and Catarina) Coquand (and after his "Calculus of Constructions")

[12:02:08] ski (he's a nice chap)

[12:02:15] ski .. the name is also an innuendo

[12:03:11] ski then there's another one, a competitor, which's called "Agda", after a song "Agda the hen" (which is raunchy)

[12:03:42] ski .. and "Dick" is short for "Richard"

[12:04:06] ski "coke" isn't quite "cook"

[12:04:35] ski "cook" is like "book". "coke" is like "stoke" (e.g. "Stoke-on-Trent")

[12:05:06] ski "fermé" has to do with iron ?

[12:06:18] ski closed, okay

[12:06:47] ski .. i wonder what it is in latin

[12:07:48] ski it's a diphtong ?

[12:10:36] ski moi mukulat

[12:11:10] ski do you mean someone who tends to have cold hand and feet ?

[12:11:35] ski why not ice tetrahedron ?

[12:12:21] ski perhaps icosahedron would be better, Chiester, since Plato thought it had to do with the element of water

[12:13:31] ski big brain move, sushi-chan

[12:13:48] ski a period is not that big

[12:14:25] ski sushi-chan : some of them complain about too large mammary glands, though

[12:14:47] ski back pain, e.g.

[12:15:04] ski yea, breast reduction surgery is a thing

[12:15:20] ski it's not as common, but it happens

[12:16:01] ski i've not heard about people wanting brain size reduction

[12:16:26] ski have you ?

[12:17:04] ski apparently some people are born with a small brain inside the skull, though

[12:17:08] ski sometimes seriously small

[12:17:19] ski some appear to not really be affected much by that, though

[12:17:27] ski also, water skull

[12:17:39] ski yea, not talking about Down's, MRjar

[12:17:42] ski Mikoolo

[12:17:46] ski that's another thing

[12:18:05] ski well, you don't acquire it

[12:18:20] ski people with Down's are often very sweet and kind

[12:18:41] ski right

[12:19:24] ski i've heard some other kid mention it, Mikoolo, but i dunno the reference

[12:19:55] ski moment

[12:23:35] ski Mikoolo : did you see "På kurs med Kurt" ?

[12:26:30] ski pankakes : she'll be back, perhaps another day

[12:26:42] ski (she's an (ir)regular of the channel)

[12:27:02] ski sometimes she gets upset. don't take it personally

[12:27:37] ski Mikoolo : hm, not seen that one, no

[12:28:40] ski (she's also asexual .. as you may've gathered)

[12:29:10] ski anyway, she likes to joke around, relieve stress

[12:29:57] ski wb

[12:31:16] ski hope the courses go well

[12:31:31] ski chamomile ?

[12:31:54] ski how long did you abstain, last time ?

[12:32:35] ski too late, she's already drinking coffee

[12:33:00] ski hm. for some reason i thought you had gone for a couple of weeks, in the past, at least

[12:33:45] ski what if you'd stop using coffee, one day, every five days, or so ?

[12:34:43] ski perhaps you could try to find some other way to help calm you down

[12:35:51] ski aren't there caffeine plasters or somesuch ?

[12:36:08] ski mhm

[12:37:28] ski could you like go one day of the week, without coffee, sushi-chan ?

[12:37:49] ski half a day ?

[12:38:16] ski perhaps you should try to seek some professional opinion

[12:38:45] ski (another frenchie i used to chat with, used to say "ahah")

[12:39:53] ski or, perhaps there's some site or forum on the net, where you could seek advice, sushi-chan

[12:41:11] ski is it "centre" in Canada ?

[12:41:35] ski i believe it is

[12:44:47] ski (and really dislikes alcohol)

[12:45:20] ski sushi-chan : seek others who've been in the same place

[12:45:35] ski surely there must be some advice around

[12:46:20] ski you usually are, still

[12:46:35] ski just you get upset, get some mood swings, at times

[12:47:00] ski wez : not me, sushi-chan

[12:47:17] ski how to deal with excessive coffee ingestion

[12:49:21] ski it's just talking, iiuc

[12:49:30] ski (well, "just")

[12:50:01] ski .t en fr cognitive behaviour therapy

[12:51:09] ski it's okay

[12:51:21] ski you're kinda like family, here

[12:51:45] ski come back when you need to, or want to

[12:52:27] ski it's okay to come here, if you're upset

[12:52:44] ski don't mention it

[12:53:09] ski we're just worrying a little bit for you

[12:53:15] ski take care

[12:54:35] ski sushi-chan : perhaps also <https://www.healthfulchat.org/>

[12:54:44] ski it has some channels for anxiety, &c.

[12:54:49] ski sushi-chan : it's an IRC network, btw

[12:55:05] ski (most people connect using the webchat)

[12:55:11] ski irc.healthfulchat.org

[13:13:20] ski deadly perchance is forward

[20:56:31] ski Mikoolo : some vtubers are pretty transparent, i think

[21:04:26] ski back from ?

[21:04:36] ski kid's sleeping ?

[21:05:11] ski OEIS, i assume

[21:06:27] ski .cc {0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55,89,144...}

[21:06:35] ski no, wrong !

[21:06:52] ski everyone knows `F_0 = 0'

[21:07:39] ski \g : TeX

[21:07:52] ski what're you testing ?

[21:08:05] ski \g : fibonacci sequence element at index `0'

[21:08:28] ski no invoices ?

[21:11:31] ski jmjl : with `F_0 = 0', you get `F_(-n) = F_n', for odd `n', and `F_(-n) = -F_n', for even `n'. if you shift so you have `F_0 = 1', then you instead get `F_(-n) = -F_(n-1)' for odd `n', and `F_(-n) = F_(n-1)' for even `n', which is much uglier

[21:11:44] ski Mikoolo : well, i suppose so ?

[21:12:09] ski pancakes is nice made-up recipe

[21:12:24] ski ne'er 'eard o' 'em

[21:13:23] ski jmjl : basically, if you continue to the left of `0', instead of to the right, the sequence is mirrored, except every other element is negative. `0' is the natural central point, where stuff is mirrored

[21:13:47] ski ...,-8,5,-3,2,-1,1,0,1,1,2,3,5,8,...

[21:14:39] ski Mikoolo : oh, he commandeered his leage of charming bank robbers

[21:15:16] ski jmjl : the notation, sure. this mirroring, not really. something akin to that only happens for some sequences

[21:15:44] ski Mikoolo : haven't heard of him, either. i think i've heard the name "Tre Kronor", but never saw it

[21:16:02] ski jmjl : ah, generating functions

[21:16:38] ski also, it should really be `n |-> a_n', or `{a_n}_n', or just `a', if you prefer. not `a_n'. `a_n' is not the sequence, it's the `n'th element in the sequence `a'

[21:17:18] ski although, i guess the `G_n' could be considered as binding the `n' .. haven'ẗ seen that variant notation really, though

[21:18:03] ski aäbcdefghijklmnoöpqrsßtuüvwxyz

[21:18:37] ski jmjl : which function/sequence example is this ?

[21:19:07] ski mahabharata

[21:20:46] ski jmjl : that gives `0,1,4,5,8,9,12,13,...', yes ?

[21:21:28] ski autumnal equinoxe

[21:22:03] ski jmjl : iow, did they mean "if `n' odd", resp. "if `n' even" ?

[21:22:52] ski jmjl : oh, those were supposed to define two different sequences. i thought they intent was to use them to define a single sequence

[21:22:58] ski (it wasn't entirely clear)

[21:23:23] ski jmjl : and i'd say the first defines `-1,1,3,5,7,...', and the second `0,2,4,6,8,...'

[21:23:39] ski jmjl : since i start counting at zero, by default

[21:23:58] ski hunnu rock

[21:24:36] ski jmjl : "except in math" makes no sense, to me ;)

[21:25:27] ski jmjl : well .. that's strange

[21:25:58] ski jmjl : i know half of mathematicians are heathens, and don't count zero as a natural number ..

[21:26:15] ski jmjl : in the old bad days, they'd even consider one to be a prime number .. *shudder*

[21:27:50] ski yea, mrinfinity ?

[21:28:50] ski jmjl : yea, but that's the wrong definition. more experience with prime numbers shows that

[21:31:06] ski jmjl : a key property of prime numbers is that they're indivisible. if a prime number is a divisor/factor of a product, the whole prime number must be a divisor of one of the factors in the product. it's not possible for one part of the prime to be a divisor of one factor, and another part to be a divisor of another factor. e.g. `6' is a divisor of `4 * 9', but is neither a divisor of `4' nor of `9',

[21:31:12] ski because `6 is not prime, can be divided/factored up into `2 * 3', where `2' divides `4', and `3' divides `9'

[21:33:25] ski jmjl : but if a prime `p' divides a product `a_0 * a_1 * ... * a_(n-1)', then there must be some factor `a_i' (with `0 =< i < n') that `p' divides. now, take the case `n = 0', an empty product. the empty product is `1'. so, if `p' divides `1', then there exists `i' with `0 =< i < 0' such that `p' divides `a_i'. but there is no `i' that's at least `0' and also less than `0', that's impossible. hence, no

[21:33:31] ski divisor of `1' is a prime. everything is a divisor of itself, so `1' (as well as `-1', btw) is not a prime

[21:36:38] ski hm, i've read Hagar the Horrible

[21:36:49] ski Lucky Luke

[21:37:01] ski handfaste ?

[21:37:48] ski Teotihuacan

[21:40:17] ski senpai

[21:42:53] ski .t de en Grobschnitt

[21:43:28] ski i listened to that whole album, recently

[21:44:31] ski Mikoolo : was listening to some Gobsmack today

[21:45:18] ski brisbane

[21:45:59] ski sounds sus

[21:46:13] ski check something out

[21:46:18] ski (boviously)

[21:46:48] ski Gaia

[21:46:59] ski Solomon

[21:47:14] ski human

[21:47:46] ski follow the yellow brick road

[21:51:07] ski fraction

[21:51:35] ski Weird Al Yankovitch

[21:52:20] ski Hedy Lamarr

[21:52:56] ski northern france

[21:53:17] ski pod ?

[21:53:46] ski steglizing

[21:55:12] ski yes you are, Mikoolo

[22:00:08] ski reindeer ?

[22:00:40] ski iirc, king Carolus tried to use elks for military, or somesuch ?

[22:00:49] ski Mikoolo : yea, half-domesticated

[22:00:56] ski they don't have lead animals

[22:01:13] ski ah, /me always confuses this

[22:02:13] ski Brigitte Bardot

[22:02:32] ski (not that i've watched any film with her ..)

[22:02:54] ski moin, wez

[22:02:58] ski we needed you, before

[22:03:14] ski wez : for "<Trivia> 47. Aussie Slang: Suss it out?"

[22:04:07] ski <ski> check something out

[22:04:37] ski Jonathan Dunne

[22:04:46] ski (C64 musician)

[22:05:15] ski saturn

[22:05:49] ski Too Many Insects

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