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Tuesday, March 24, 2026

[06:22:20] mlu a bit

[06:22:37] mlu the actual reuqirements are quite light, but the fact that it's a bill is annoying

[06:27:35] mlu as far as I understand, the legislation would just require that the OS has a field for age verification -- probably expose it via dbus or something

[06:28:43] mlu as for the accounts: that's how modern companies run -- number of accounts = number of users = the number the performance metrics are based on

[06:28:56] mlu if you simply sell them an OS without having them create an account, you didn't really have a customer

[06:29:10] mlu well, you do need an API and you do need to respect it

[06:29:34] mlu but I think making that age available via dbus would count; so would making it available via a libc call or something

[06:30:13] mlu if I ran a for-profit software company that had to report to shareholders, I'd be responsible if I didn't take advantage of that bill for evil

[06:31:22] mlu it'd just be the OS itself

[06:31:40] mlu i.e. very much like the required child safety locks on the doors in cars in the US

[06:32:44] mlu afaik, it just has to have that capability -- you're not required to necessarily use it

[06:33:27] mlu i.e. when you create a user account, you'd probably have a GECOS-like field to input a birthdate, and you could probably put in something neutral like 1/1/1970

[06:33:43] mlu there's always gonna be a sliding slope

[06:34:30] mlu for actual verification, sure

[06:34:49] mlu but the purpose of this bill is really to allow parents to prevent children from accessing websites they're not supposed to

[06:35:39] mlu zer0s: not a reasonable or realistic requirement in reality, IMO

[06:36:30] mlu and if I had kids and they had the same level of skills as me, I'd need to actually lock up the network cabinet :)

[06:36:46] mlu and use enteprise-style MDM on their devices

[06:37:01] mlu the premise isn't that unreasonable -- I do that with my guns

[06:37:12] mlu but then agian, the internet doesn't kill people

[06:38:03] mlu you still need to act on that radicalism

[06:39:32] mlu but yeah, locked server rack and secured demarc (for ninternet) -- that should do the job, and it's actually required for PCI-DSS compliance

[06:39:58] mlu it'll be quite tamper-evident if you monitor the rack ;)

[06:40:29] mlu yeah, kid's not picking that medeco lock fast enough, and if he drills it like a normal person, there's gonna be a lot of evidence

[06:40:54] mlu zer0s: I could be an unreasonable parent and never allow them to visit friends or go to the library

[06:41:23] mlu that's how I was generally raised -- I didn't go anywhere without my parents until I was 18

[06:41:49] mlu let's just say: going to college was an interesting experience :P

[06:42:09] mlu I waas one of those who rebelled and went crazy

[06:42:38] mlu but I was 18, so I was the one that FAFO'ed :)

[06:43:30] mlu I found out that I liked energy drinks and didn't like weed

[06:43:52] mlu ;)

[06:45:37] mlu hehe, what was your first OS?

[06:48:13] mlu this was the early 1990s, and my dad's 286 was a used computer from the 80s

[06:48:28] mlu I dind't use Linux full-time until 2002-ish

[06:48:45] mlu so I experineced all the Windows 9x days but missed out on XP

[06:52:20] mlu zer0s: Solus on my laptop, Alpine on my home server / bouncer

[06:52:59] mlu my laptop is one of those no-name brand Chinese laptops: Intel N95, 4K screen -- costed me $400

[06:53:18] mlu home server is a Raspberry Pi 5 -- it runs nice and silently -- so much better than my first home server

[06:54:35] mlu my first home server (back in 2001) was an AMD K5-II 500MHz /w 256MB RAM and 80GB HDD

[06:55:10] mlu I also have a workstation: Theadripper 3960X, 64GB DDR4-3200, 2x RTX2080Ti /w NVLink

[06:55:25] mlu zer0s: yeah, that was my first home server back in 2001 -- was my old PC from 1998

[06:55:29] mlu approximately

[06:55:57] mlu zer0s: by modern standards, yes

[06:56:11] mlu but adjusted for inflation, it costed as much as what the 286 would have costed back in the 80s

[06:56:23] mlu the Threadripper box was just under $5000 in 2019 dollars

[06:56:57] mlu it was a competition between my (rich) friend and I on if I could build a box for <$5000 that was more powerful than the $20k machine he was eyeing at a systems integrator

[06:57:18] mlu no, I didn't have a good use case: I had extra money lying around, and the spec was: "be unreasonable"

[06:58:02] mlu so what was an unreasonably powerful system in 2019? well, the Threadripper 3960X was releasing at that time (I was a launch customer) and I had 2x 2080TI's lying around from 2018 that I preordered for MSRP

[06:58:13] mlu zer0s: these days, it runs excellently

[06:58:45] mlu was another story in 2019 -- the Aquantia AQC107 10Gbit NIC had buggy drivers that kept resetting, but that was fixed by 2020-ish

[06:59:11] mlu the Realtek 2.5GbE chip in that system also needed a modern Linux distro to work, but at least it was rock solid once it did work

[06:59:29] mlu I don't think 10Gbit will ever be common on copper -- the baud rate is just too high

[07:00:11] mlu 1Gbit only needs 125Mbaud, 2.5Gbit only needs 200Mbaud

[07:00:28] mlu 10Gbit, on the other hand, needs 600Mbaud

[07:00:41] mlu zer0s: it already is common in the fiber world and is in fact already being deprecated

[07:01:05] mlu zer0s: if you want to play around with 100Gbit gear, you can go on eBay and find optics for $5/ea and NICs for <$30

[07:01:27] mlu yep, but even if it was, how are you gonna satruate 100Gbit?

[07:01:43] mlu like, you'll need at least PCIe 3.0 x16 to even saturate it

[07:02:15] mlu but the equipment is cheap and plentiful, especialily now that everyone's doing 200Gbit and 400Gbit in the enterprise

[07:02:26] mlu if you have $100, that's enough for your own test link

[07:02:56] mlu zer0s: oh, that's becuase they're really expensive still

[07:03:15] mlu zer0s: I only know of one that's under $10000...

[07:03:53] mlu zer0s: https://mikrotik.com/product/crs812_ddq -- oh hey, this one is cheap -- it's only ~$1500

[07:04:15] mlu zer0s: c'mon, you really think you need more than a few ports? you can just buy a 4x100G NIC and use that as a switch

[07:04:32] mlu zer0s: search for a QSFP28 swtich

[07:06:13] mlu https://www.ebay.com/itm/116368625501 -- oh hey, this might do it, but your power bill's gonna suck

[07:06:57] mlu zer0s: https://www.ebay.com/itm/336027939301 -- remember, one for each end :)

[07:08:50] mlu oh yeah, for context: my usual budget on PCs is usually $500-$1000 -- so that $5000 box was a real aberration, but it was really, really fun -- provided me much more entertainment than a couple first class tickets ever would

[07:09:27] mlu got to do a lot of VR, maxed out 3D gaming, mined stuff during the cryptocurrency craze, and these days, it's running some LLM chat bots

[07:10:04] mlu yep

[07:10:23] mlu fwiw, I like those 4x2.5Gbit + 2x10Gbit switches

[07:10:39] mlu I then have a Mikrotik CRS305 as my spine switch

[07:11:15] mlu my 10Gbit stuff is on SFP+ -- single-mode fiber, by the foot, is cheaper than Cat6, and the optics are available for $7/ea

[07:11:26] mlu zer0s: nice, which one did you get?

[07:11:57] mlu eh, they have decently priced stuff

[07:12:27] mlu heh, the 4x2.5G + 2x10G switch I use is by Yuanlee -- it costed me $40 on Amazon

[07:12:36] mlu now that's s ketch :D

[07:13:15] mlu and oh, how did you think I got that Threadripper build for "only" $5000? well, I used OLOy RAM (unheard of at the time) and Sabrent NVMe

[07:13:29] mlu zer0s: you know it's sketch when the box doesn't even have the brand name on it

[07:14:04] mlu https://www.amazon.com/Port-Umanaged-SFP-Compatible-YuanLey/dp/B0C64N2QN -- oh hey, there's a coupon for it now :)

[07:14:25] mlu they werne't know for making NVMes back in 2019

[07:14:48] mlu ASrock had a weird mobo for sale for $450 -- I went with that one

[07:15:46] mlu when your other options are ASUS, Gigabyte, MSI, and a more premium ASRock, the cheaper ASRock looks ghetoo :)

[07:16:08] mlu but that's like saying an entry-level Ferrari looks ghetto compared to a Bugatti

[07:16:50] mlu and oh, the PSU -- I got a Rosewill-branded PSU and did some QA myself before installing it :P

[07:17:33] mlu the first case I got for it was a $50 NZXT H510 -- turned out to be a bit too cramped, so I eventaully got a Corsair 540 Air Carbide case

[07:17:48] mlu zer0s: yeah, Rosewill Quark 1200W 80+ Platinum

[07:18:05] mlu power is expensive in San Francisco, so I don't cheap out on the 80+

[07:18:14] mlu it was on sale -- I paid only $119 for it

[07:18:33] mlu it's Newegg's store brand

[07:19:16] mlu there was a reason why my friend's systems integrator wanted $20k for a similar system at the time

[07:19:32] mlu the $20k was actually a reasonable price

[07:19:52] mlu my $5k build? oh noes, I cut more corners than eMachines did at its worse

[07:20:32] mlu I was like: if it's bad, I'll just get some other RAM

[07:21:00] mlu it was on sale for $220 ($110/2x16GB) at the time

[07:21:21] mlu the dies are always made by Corsair, Samsung, or Hynix

[07:21:39] mlu OLOy was actually new at the time

[07:22:03] mlu the sticks were manufactured by Chunwell

[07:22:49] mlu most people would be afraid of stuff going wrong in this build, but I've built several systems in the past, so I was like: yay, fun

[07:23:00] mlu zer0s: some random company in China

[07:23:15] mlu OLOy is literally Yolo spelled backwards and inverted

[07:23:37] mlu to make things worse, they had no website at the time!

[07:30:28] mlu maxed out TDP of the box was ~900W

[07:30:56] mlu getting all of it to air cool properly was another challenge -- had an econo-pack of Arctic P12 fans

[07:31:50] mlu I'm just glad computers are a cheap hobby compared to cars or boats

[18:24:49] mlu one of the things that has really changed since the 90s is that almost everything is done via the web

[18:25:07] mlu so as long as your OS supports a full-fledged web browser, it'll work

[18:25:33] mlu that was the barrier in the 90s and 2000s

[18:26:22] mlu it's actually quite amazing how I don't even really need LibreOffice these days

[18:27:10] mlu who put a SoC on the smart toaster? :(

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