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[05:01:56] guest_ hi

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[05:05:39] Zathras ahoy!

[05:06:17] Zathras wait, wrong #channel

[05:22:06] guest_ zathras hi

[05:22:24] Zathras guest_: welcome!

[05:23:25] guest_ feels like termux is latching onto my keyboard and screwing it up

[05:23:48] guest_ why is all of the software trash can't you peeps make anything right

[05:24:13] guest_ it started happening worse after installing termux

[05:24:19] Zathras you're probably right

[05:24:58] guest_ why won't anybody make something worth using

[05:25:43] guest_ I got some blog posts out I am ashamed of because of errors like spell check introduced

[05:26:57] Zathras do you like trains? https://img.pr0gramm.com/2026/03/26/401b1741cf74d587.jpg

[05:27:38] guest_ trains are ok I don't get excited about a pic of a train

[05:27:56] guest_ it seems like sidestepping my real talk

[05:28:20] Zathras aww, 218 choochoo is the bestest!

[05:29:26] guest_ ok nothing worth chatting either

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[05:30:06] guest_ ok bye

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[05:39:11] Zathras mayhap I should've gone for planes https://img.pr0gramm.com/2026/03/26/6aa58c05764fce6f.jpg no?

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[12:50:35] Trigger linux mint using system.d and then spotchat and spotchat handing off it's connect to google and not being able to connect to the advertised IP's directly says a fuck of a lot in itself, if we go through it all not being secure on update by default and especially the security updates portion of the updats getting missed and fails to connect when you do switch to https on the updates, until you manually go in the text file and alter it to point

[12:50:35] Trigger to https servers

[12:52:47] Trigger many other issues have now left users scrambling for none system.d distributions to use instead

[12:53:50] Trigger we all know this isn't just age verification at all

[12:55:22] & Shahid i dunno what half of that stuff is

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[12:56:42] Trigger yeah that's the problem, none of these people are feeling it, they been backdoored so much over time

[12:57:07] Trigger they got no clue

[12:58:37] Trigger common response, orr yeah sounds serious, something has triggered this person a bit, meh dont worry everything will still work they will fix it if it all go's wrong eh

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[13:00:23] Trigger complete with new facial recognition features and finger print scan and a credit check and a criminal background flag and all the rest, pretty soon your kids will be walled off from parental control because you lack the credentials to monitor your own kids on the platforms, yeap yeap just you don't worry about that we will do all that for you

[13:01:44] Trigger teach your kids to hack the living heck around it all, not be a slave to it, and be controlled by it

[13:03:29] Trigger you know the android firewall is set to accept all in from anywhere on the internets right ? "INPUT ACCEPT"

[13:04:43] Trigger and you dont have root privilege to chnage that even if you wanted to, and now they locking the bootloader down ? so you cant root anymore ?

[13:05:02] Trigger and this is a financial authentication device ?

[13:05:34] Trigger this is the authentication device to all your email and online accounts ?

[13:07:19] Trigger this kind of stupidity reminds me of the movie braveheart

[13:08:10] Trigger you know where they all life their skirts on the battlefield and bend over and show their bums to the enemy and then promptly get arrowed in the arse

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[13:11:33] Trigger i think i'm just cranky because i havent had my covfefe' this morning and it's like 10 past 2, sorry all, i go get me a cuppa joe , my bad

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[13:18:59] & End3r $coffee Trigger

[13:18:59] * glitchy pulls a perfect shot for a Rose Latte ☕🌹 and gives it to Trigger ☕

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[13:23:39] Trigger thats nice, downs the shot and chases it with a heaped "table spoon" of coffee in a big yellow mickey mouse mug, i don't like mickey mouse by the way, actually hate it n disney, it was just a big cup i found at the charity shop one day for 50p and it's been my coffee mug ever since

[13:26:13] Trigger i think it's actually worth something as a collectors item, heh, i will find a better one, one day and take it back to the charity shop and somone can agonize over my having used it and devalued it somewhat drastically

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[13:53:07] Trigger so looks like Devuan is the switch to for a lot of folks for now at least

[13:54:04] Spookan End3r: :P

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[14:05:02] Trigger grabbed the torrent of Devuan cause not tried and want to, flippin 16.21GB ? gosh lol

[14:05:40] Trigger what the heck is in it

[14:06:27] Trigger soon find out in a few days when it downloads eh, 4 hours remaining

[14:06:36] & End3r should say on their website

[14:06:40] & End3r it is just a distro

[14:06:47] Zathras in case one is used to .deb devuan.org is the way to go. the ones used to Arch, go with artixlinux.org

[14:06:48] & End3r they usually say what is in it

[14:07:06] & End3r it is just debian without systemd

[14:08:00] Zathras Trigger: if you have a slow internet connection, stop fetching it now. look inside and only select the images you really need

[14:08:05] Trigger yeah hmm im prolly not going to be very enthralled with it tbh, prolly need to graduate to artix

[14:08:39] Zathras also, there is a #devuan channel on this server

[14:08:43] Zathras they know more

[14:09:15] Zathras erm, s/server/irc network/

[14:09:22] Trigger think i will keep it prolly stuff it in a vm and keep it on the side for a bit of fun n games and see what they are stuffing in these things these days

[14:10:02] Zathras the torrent AFICR contains ALL the images. one usually needs one of them

[14:10:48] Trigger looks at the files, yeah orrr ic hmm

[14:11:09] Trigger that's why so big

[14:11:20] Zathras see https://www.devuan.org/get-devuan

[14:11:21] % glitchy [url] Get Devuan | Devuan GNU+Linux Free Operating System | www.devuan.org

[14:12:22] Zathras usually netinstall OR desktop is all you need

[14:12:49] Zathras though it's been a while since I've installed it

[14:14:08] Zathras Trigger: what are your prvious experinces with gnu/linux distros?

[14:17:16] Zathras Trigger: as End3r said. Devuan is almost the same as Debian and provides almost all of the same packages. except for a few that soleily rely on systemd

[14:18:12] Zathras ...without accepting an alternative

[14:18:13] Trigger err well i tried most of them over the years but it's been a few years since revisiting ones tried and the newer ones that have popped up since tbh i stuck with linux mint and just modified the heck out of it to make it somewhat safe, and occasionally i use puppy linux as a live, to fix things if they go wrong or repair a winblows machine but not done that in a long while now, i no longer touch winblows for a long time now

[14:18:57] Zathras aight, you're good to go then :)

[14:19:09] Trigger linux mint is by no means alone in not being anywhere near security concious out the box/install

[14:19:12] Zathras whatever path you choose

[14:20:11] Trigger it actually breaks the security updates portion of the updates if you try go secure

[14:20:15] Zathras well, "security" is a rather ambiguous term

[14:20:30] Trigger yea

[14:22:23] Trigger take for instance when you go into sources on mint and set the source to the https ones and then you block port 80 on your firewall in some way shape and form, the security portion of the updates fails, this is because the security portion is still on http not https

[14:23:02] Trigger you have to go into the text file and alter it to point to https and then boom the security updates connect , a bit of an huge oversight there

[14:23:11] Zathras the big advantage of debian/devuan compared to ubuntu or mint is the vast package repository. the disadvantage is, the more chiose the more work to bent it to your needs, including security

[14:24:29] Trigger yea, and then theres the flatpak / flathub thing just ugh

[14:24:37] Zathras right, but that depends on how one manages their firewall. on mint i suppose it's g/ufw?

[14:25:57] Zathras sorry, I have never touched such containers. I have no clue there

[14:26:25] Trigger yes gufw is set to deny all in and out and then open ports accordingly out only / half open to specific IP's and then infront of that is another firewall which is more extensive with lots of goodies in protections in the config

[14:27:09] Trigger i posted my firewall vonfig to google and it called it "Loud" lol

[14:27:28] Trigger google AI*

[14:28:04] Zathras that must be mint's default settings for ufw. this most likely is different depending on distro

[14:28:25] Trigger wanna take a look at my firewall script for shits n giggles ?

[14:28:56] Zathras on debian/devuan, last I have seen, ufw's rules are non existant by default. the use has to tell it what to do

[14:29:10] Trigger it's a mobile forewall confic designed for AFWall+

[14:29:15] Zathras uhoh, I am not an fw expert

[14:29:36] Trigger well im not an expert lol

[14:29:48] Trigger whatever one of those is

[14:30:11] Zathras I start with ufw default deny incoming and ufw default deny outgoing

[14:30:29] Zathras then add rules as rerquired

[14:30:47] Zathras depending on the system's task

[14:30:55] Trigger well there ya go thats how one is supposed to use it imo

[14:31:10] Zathras desktop PCs and laptops are different to a server

[14:31:54] Trigger yeah in this day and age we need to think more server firewall to secure our endpoints in themselves

[14:33:16] Zathras right. but if one configures a 'puter for a novice, things might be different. in case the novice only runs their 'puter for only a few hours per week

[14:34:45] Zathras still, ufw or not ufw, with you background you're able to run devuan as well artix as well as any other distro!

[14:35:05] Zathras I can't help you with that choice. it is yours!

[14:36:25] Trigger i'm a poor person so i have to be a lot smarter and use what i have to hand and basicaly instead of buying some already out of date corporate remote LTE firewall appliance for like £600 + i just use an old samsung with root and make a firewall script and tether that

[14:37:11] Zathras though, if you decide to go with devuan, as mentioned above, there's a #devuan channel on this network and you might join https://devuanusers.com

[14:37:13] % glitchy [url] Devuan Users Forum | devuanusers.com

[14:38:29] Zathras no matter waht linux distro you use the firewall is handled by the kernel, linux istself.

[14:38:37] Zathras ufw is just a frontend

[14:38:42] Zathras as are others

[14:38:49] & End3r yep

[14:39:50] Trigger here for the silent ones to poke n prod at https://pastebin.com/625Qrx6V

[14:39:51] % glitchy [url] #!/system/bin/shiptables=/system/bin/iptablesip6tables=/system/bin/ip6tables - Pastebin.com | pastebin.com

[14:40:24] Trigger so yeah that's my LTE firewall and tether endpoints to that

[14:40:57] Trigger i really need to switch that interface from rndis, but just not got around to it

[14:41:17] Zathras if you're confident with iptables, go with that. do not even think about ufw, lol

[14:41:31] & End3r Personally, I use a hardware firewall

[14:42:11] Zathras End3r: do you have a link for specs to that hw?

[14:42:32] Trigger full disclaimer don't try to put that in AFWall+ as is without editing it for your circumstances and config it just wont work

[14:42:32] & End3r they are expensive af. got it from my boss

[14:42:35] & End3r lemme look

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[14:43:41] Trigger but it has a lot of protections, that normally people should have in a firewall but don't for some reason

[14:44:07] Trigger like resistance to port scanning and smurf attacks and spoofing protections and such

[14:44:27] & End3r https://www.sophos.com/en-us/products/next-gen-firewall/xgs-smb-branch-office-firewalls

[14:44:37] & End3r XGS118

[14:45:26] Trigger i applied that and kept going in tweaking and edditing and adding new features and everything i did made my internet faster lol

[14:45:33] Trigger go figure

[14:46:10] Trigger brb afk

[14:46:56] Zathras dang End3r, that is some cool stuff. for enterprise use. respect!

[14:47:04] & End3r yeah

[14:47:22] & End3r my whole house uses unifi enterprise gear with that as the firewall

[14:47:32] & End3r then I have tunnels for work stuff

[14:48:22] & End3r Then again, I am an admin for a MSP, so I need that kinda access

[14:48:24] Zathras I whish I had a boss like yours, hehe

[14:48:41] Zathras aight, I see

[14:49:20] & End3r brb need more coffee

[14:49:47] Zathras I should take a nap

[14:52:12] & End3r Enjoy your nap

[14:52:20] Trigger wtf did i just watch ?

[14:52:26] Trigger sorry

[14:53:18] Trigger oh rite yeah scroll down bruh

[14:54:06] Zathras "<End3r> .kb Zathras fuck out of here" lol, you were the one that kicked me for no apparent reason. I suspect you've had a bad day. no worries.

[14:54:42] & End3r nope, if i kicked you it was for a reason.

[14:54:49] Zathras hehe

[14:54:50] Zathras right

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[14:56:20] * Zathras is new to this network and is not quite familir with the rules her

[14:56:25] Zathras e

[14:58:03] & End3r https://wiki.rizon.net/index.php?title=Main_Page

[14:58:03] % glitchy [url] Rizon Wiki | wiki.rizon.net

[14:58:13] & End3r that is a great spot to start

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[15:01:58] & End3r I really need to make a wiki page for this channel

[15:02:06] & End3r Maybe I will do that later today

[15:02:58] & End3r Yeah I will make a wiki page for this channel today and post the URL to it in the topic

[15:03:43] Zathras /me sticks to pure helping others from now on. probably

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[15:12:34] & End3r https://wiki.rizon.net/index.php?title=Linux

[15:12:34] % glitchy [url] Linux - Rizon Wiki | wiki.rizon.net

[15:12:39] & End3r so far that's what I have

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[15:12:50] & devbox [End3r] People are going to the moon, aliens are coming to Earth and I’m still pushing on a door that says pull.

[15:17:15] * End3r changed topic to: Welcome to #linux ! | Ask your question(s) and be patient as it is different time(s) around the globe | Channel Rules: https://wiki.rizon.net/index.php?title=Linux |http://chanstat.net/stats/rizon/%23linux | https://github.com/lord3nd3r/NUchat | 2026 The year of the Linux desktop!

[15:17:53] * End3r changed topic to: Welcome to #linux ! | Channel Rules: https://wiki.rizon.net/index.php?title=Linux | Ask your question(s) and be patient as it is different time(s) around the globe |http://chanstat.net/stats/rizon/%23linux | https://github.com/lord3nd3r/NUchat | 2026 The year of the Linux desktop!

[15:30:39] & End3r @chanstats

[15:30:39] ChanStat (ChanStats): Channel statistics for #linux can be found by going to https://chanstat.net/stats/rizon/%23linux

[15:30:40] % glitchy [url] 400 Bad Request | chanstat.net

[15:31:22] * End3r changed topic to: Welcome to #linux ! | Channel Rules: https://wiki.rizon.net/index.php?title=Linux | Ask your question(s) and be patient as it is different time(s) around the globe | https://chanstat.net/stats/rizon/%23linux | https://github.com/lord3nd3r/NUchat | 2026 The year of the Linux desktop!

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[15:31:39] & devbox [End3r] People are going to the moon, aliens are coming to Earth and I’m still pushing on a door that says pull.

[15:32:18] & End3r yay fixed

[15:32:40] Trigger bbl

[15:32:43] * notacat breaks it again

[15:33:08] notacat jk

[15:33:11] notacat hey what's the best linux?

[15:34:28] & End3r yes

[15:34:32] & End3r .access list

[15:36:28] Zathras .oO( where can I leave a comment on how to improve https://wiki.rizon.net/index.php?title=Linux )?

[15:36:28] % glitchy [url] Linux - Rizon Wiki | wiki.rizon.net

[15:37:58] general_kornwallace notacat: the best linux is the one you're using

[15:38:46] notacat awww

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[15:40:27] & End3r there

[15:40:32] & End3r refresh the wiki

[15:40:35] & End3r major edit

[15:41:17] & End3r .access del 17

[15:42:30] Zathras good update. though the phrase I am uncertain about is still there

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[15:44:23] Zathras "toxic behavior" from a judicial point of view this phrase is not defined. who decides what "toxic" means? am I being toxic right now for commenting on that? End3r

[15:44:52] & End3r We as the ops do

[15:45:02] Zathras mayhap there's a better phrase. though english is not my first language

[15:45:04] & End3r and me as the owner of this channel

[15:45:05] Trigger yup I read the rules by the way, nodds

[15:45:52] & End3r glitchy explain to Zathras what toxic behavior means.

[15:45:55] % glitchy Zathras: Toxic behavior = harassment/spam/threats/insults/derailing/disruption (e.g., floods, racism, targeted griefing)—ops call shots via logs/context. Clear? 😎⚖️ No edge cases.

[15:45:57] Zathras hence I have no suggestion at this time

[15:46:18] * End3r pets glitchy

[15:46:21] % glitchy * glitchy purrs contentedly, tail swishing * Purr-fect End3r—channel's purring too now! 🐱😻💕

[15:46:23] Zathras I see

[15:46:27] Trigger safe for work* in here

[15:46:44] & End3r we try to keep it PG, but we all have naughty mouths

[15:47:08] & End3r just try to keep it somewhat respectful

[15:47:12] & End3r :)

[15:47:40] Zathras btw. is there an offtopic channell or the like?

[15:47:44] & End3r brb wife is summoning me

[15:47:47] Trigger not like some of the other channels, not sure if we are allowed to mention them in here in context but ..

[15:47:48] Zathras just curious

[15:49:09] & End3r back

[15:49:23] & End3r Zathras you can always do /list *keyword*

[15:49:58] Zathras I did, there are _many_

[15:50:06] Trigger did you chnage the rules for me ? lol i might hang out in some places and maybe join in a bit but im quite capable of being respectful elsewhere :p

[15:50:08] & End3r Trigger you can post a channel with context, just no advertising.

[15:50:39] & End3r well, without talking to an op first

[15:51:25] Trigger nodds no owrries i get the spirit of the rules here as oppsed to other chans

[15:51:42] & End3r We just want to be helpful and chill

[15:52:37] Trigger im old irc'r from way back i try be cool and respectful where i hang

[15:53:03] & End3r Trigger++

[15:53:03] % glitchy 🆙 Karma boost! Trigger gained 1 karma ✨ (🎯 1 in #linux | 🌐 1 global)

[15:53:08] Trigger but fun to let loose elsewhere and talk silly

[15:53:24] & End3r If the channel is dead, it is fine to bullshit

[15:53:33] & End3r but not if we are helping people

[15:53:39] & End3r make sense?

[15:54:02] Trigger exactly

[15:54:36] Trigger well i wont be talking trash in here, theres other chans for that :D

[15:55:11] & End3r If you guys get bored, I have a game channel.

[15:55:18] & End3r $bal

[15:55:19] % glitchy End3r: 🔒 The mug game is disabled in #linux. Join #mug to play!

[15:55:23] & End3r ^^

[15:56:12] Trigger i dont do games, unless it's UT-GOTY or 2K4+

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[16:45:16] ZikaheadMidgetChinkRue so pedo midget rdr

[16:45:28] + rdr linux!!!!!

[16:45:37] ZikaheadMidgetChinkRue now what u ganna do smelly midget

[16:45:49] ZikaheadMidgetChinkRue LOL @ midget fuck downloaded ubuntu.iso9660 and dualbooted

[16:45:56] ZikaheadMidgetChinkRue now the midget fuck thinks he uses *nix

[16:46:02] ZikaheadMidgetChinkRue pathetic dick in ur ass taking pedo rdr

[16:46:14] + rdr Linux toolbx 6.19.9-300.fc44.x86_64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Thu Mar 19 21:35:32 UTC 2026 x86_64 GNU/Linux

[16:46:16] ZikaheadMidgetChinkRue notice pedo midget rdr silent now

[16:46:24] ZikaheadMidgetChinkRue LOL @shit race pleb

[16:46:36] ZikaheadMidgetChinkRue rdr how do u +/- moduls from kernel?

[16:46:50] ZikaheadMidgetChinkRue rdr where is kernel located again?

[16:47:06] + rdr you're manually loading modules? what year is it?

[16:47:07] ZikaheadMidgetChinkRue LOL @ another computer illiterate bitch midget

[16:47:15] ZikaheadMidgetChinkRue who literally downloaded fucking ubuntu

[16:47:28] + rdr yes i have downloaded ubuntu many times

[16:47:38] ZikaheadMidgetChinkRue rdr doesnt know WHY u would add/remove modules from kernel

[16:47:43] ZikaheadMidgetChinkRue this is why ur bitch midget ass

[16:47:45] ZikaheadMidgetChinkRue is a sub human retard

[16:47:55] ZikaheadMidgetChinkRue rdr u really thought ur smelly stinky fuck ass used LINUX huh?

[16:47:57] + rdr what makes you so mad

[16:47:58] ZikaheadMidgetChinkRue u pathetic lil home user

[16:48:04] ZikaheadMidgetChinkRue makes me mad?

[16:48:06] ZikaheadMidgetChinkRue lil gay fuck

[16:48:09] + rdr always so salty

[16:48:10] ZikaheadMidgetChinkRue i spend more money than u make

[16:48:11] ZikaheadMidgetChinkRue what makes u mad is

[16:48:16] ZikaheadMidgetChinkRue u will NEVER have intelligence

[16:48:18] + rdr you come on IRC and just spew hate

[16:48:22] ZikaheadMidgetChinkRue loL why cant u KICK me now mdiget fuck

[16:48:25] + rdr i feel bad for you son, gonna ignore now

[16:48:28] ZikaheadMidgetChinkRue oh wait u couldt dick suck for halfop

[16:48:31] ZikaheadMidgetChinkRue stfu

[16:48:35] ZikaheadMidgetChinkRue u half breed midget

[16:48:39] ZikaheadMidgetChinkRue do u think i give a fuck what u do

[16:48:41] ZikaheadMidgetChinkRue lil faggot u cant kick me

[16:48:47] ZikaheadMidgetChinkRue lol @ thats why u ganna fake ignroe on mIRC.exe

[16:48:56] * ZikaheadMidgetChinkRue is now known as DEIhiredRDR

[16:49:02] DEIhiredRDR LOL @ lil faggot fuck ass homo tried to act up

[16:49:10] DEIhiredRDR now trolled into silence for being a dick in the ass taking faggot

[16:49:18] * devbox set mode +b *!*@2D79051E.6DB73639.AA6F8840.IP

[16:49:18] * devbox kicked DEIhiredRDR (yes i can)

[16:49:25] Stuiterbal wtf

[16:50:03] + rdr lol

[16:50:06] + rdr he's crazy

[16:50:20] + rdr i dunno what kind of disorder he must have but just sooooooo hostile

[16:50:22] + rdr to everyone

[16:51:38] general_kornwallace the internet is srs business

[17:02:32] `O` gosh you step away for 5 mins to make sardines on toast and a covfefe and boom!

[17:02:54] `O` is that HKM dipstick i take it

[17:03:14] `O` summink wrong with that boy

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[17:09:24] & End3r wow

[17:09:29] & End3r I missed that one

[17:09:39] & End3r thx to whoever handled it

[17:10:16] `O` he's such an annoying twerp that one

[17:10:53] & End3r may need to edit the botserv protections

[17:11:21] `O` he just caused another channel to go into lockdown, pretty sure it was him just lffoding the chan with alt hosts n routs

[17:11:54] & End3r ooh in #truth ?

[17:12:03] `O` now i got to sign in n identify to talk in the other chans

[17:12:07] `O` yup

[17:12:20] & End3r yeah, we got a report about that

[17:12:27] * `O` is now known as Trigger

[17:17:15] general_kornwallace if he went under the name Christistheway in the past, I've seen him do that before

[17:21:05] Zathras yeah, twenty years ago might fit

[17:21:08] Zathras na

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[17:21:13] Zathras uhm, sorry

[17:26:27] & End3r I honestly can't stand #truth

[17:26:46] & End3r 99.9% of all of the problems her on rizon are due to the trolls that stay in there.

[17:26:52] & Shahid longest i lasted there was 3 days

[17:26:52] & End3r s/her/here

[17:26:53] % glitchy End3r meant to say: 99.9% of all of the problems here on rizon are due to the trolls that stay in there.

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[17:30:33] & End3r The words "fag, faggot, and fagg0t" are now banned and services will kick for using them.

[17:30:49] & End3r since he loves to use them

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