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Sunday, March 29, 2026

[05:05:39] Zathras ahoy!

[05:06:17] Zathras wait, wrong #channel

[05:22:24] Zathras guest_: welcome!

[05:24:19] Zathras you're probably right

[05:26:57] Zathras do you like trains? https://img.pr0gramm.com/2026/03/26/401b1741cf74d587.jpg

[05:28:20] Zathras aww, 218 choochoo is the bestest!

[05:39:11] Zathras mayhap I should've gone for planes https://img.pr0gramm.com/2026/03/26/6aa58c05764fce6f.jpg no?

[14:06:47] Zathras in case one is used to .deb devuan.org is the way to go. the ones used to Arch, go with artixlinux.org

[14:08:00] Zathras Trigger: if you have a slow internet connection, stop fetching it now. look inside and only select the images you really need

[14:08:39] Zathras also, there is a #devuan channel on this server

[14:08:43] Zathras they know more

[14:09:15] Zathras erm, s/server/irc network/

[14:10:02] Zathras the torrent AFICR contains ALL the images. one usually needs one of them

[14:11:20] Zathras see https://www.devuan.org/get-devuan

[14:12:22] Zathras usually netinstall OR desktop is all you need

[14:12:49] Zathras though it's been a while since I've installed it

[14:14:08] Zathras Trigger: what are your prvious experinces with gnu/linux distros?

[14:17:16] Zathras Trigger: as End3r said. Devuan is almost the same as Debian and provides almost all of the same packages. except for a few that soleily rely on systemd

[14:18:12] Zathras ...without accepting an alternative

[14:18:57] Zathras aight, you're good to go then :)

[14:19:12] Zathras whatever path you choose

[14:20:15] Zathras well, "security" is a rather ambiguous term

[14:23:11] Zathras the big advantage of debian/devuan compared to ubuntu or mint is the vast package repository. the disadvantage is, the more chiose the more work to bent it to your needs, including security

[14:24:37] Zathras right, but that depends on how one manages their firewall. on mint i suppose it's g/ufw?

[14:25:57] Zathras sorry, I have never touched such containers. I have no clue there

[14:28:04] Zathras that must be mint's default settings for ufw. this most likely is different depending on distro

[14:28:56] Zathras on debian/devuan, last I have seen, ufw's rules are non existant by default. the use has to tell it what to do

[14:29:15] Zathras uhoh, I am not an fw expert

[14:30:11] Zathras I start with ufw default deny incoming and ufw default deny outgoing

[14:30:29] Zathras then add rules as rerquired

[14:30:47] Zathras depending on the system's task

[14:31:10] Zathras desktop PCs and laptops are different to a server

[14:33:16] Zathras right. but if one configures a 'puter for a novice, things might be different. in case the novice only runs their 'puter for only a few hours per week

[14:34:45] Zathras still, ufw or not ufw, with you background you're able to run devuan as well artix as well as any other distro!

[14:35:05] Zathras I can't help you with that choice. it is yours!

[14:37:11] Zathras though, if you decide to go with devuan, as mentioned above, there's a #devuan channel on this network and you might join https://devuanusers.com

[14:38:29] Zathras no matter waht linux distro you use the firewall is handled by the kernel, linux istself.

[14:38:37] Zathras ufw is just a frontend

[14:38:42] Zathras as are others

[14:41:17] Zathras if you're confident with iptables, go with that. do not even think about ufw, lol

[14:42:11] Zathras End3r: do you have a link for specs to that hw?

[14:46:56] Zathras dang End3r, that is some cool stuff. for enterprise use. respect!

[14:48:24] Zathras I whish I had a boss like yours, hehe

[14:48:41] Zathras aight, I see

[14:49:47] Zathras I should take a nap

[14:54:06] Zathras "<End3r> .kb Zathras fuck out of here" lol, you were the one that kicked me for no apparent reason. I suspect you've had a bad day. no worries.

[14:54:49] Zathras hehe

[14:54:50] Zathras right

[14:56:25] Zathras e

[15:03:43] Zathras /me sticks to pure helping others from now on. probably

[15:36:28] Zathras .oO( where can I leave a comment on how to improve https://wiki.rizon.net/index.php?title=Linux )?

[15:42:30] Zathras good update. though the phrase I am uncertain about is still there

[15:44:23] Zathras "toxic behavior" from a judicial point of view this phrase is not defined. who decides what "toxic" means? am I being toxic right now for commenting on that? End3r

[15:45:02] Zathras mayhap there's a better phrase. though english is not my first language

[15:45:57] Zathras hence I have no suggestion at this time

[15:46:23] Zathras I see

[15:47:40] Zathras btw. is there an offtopic channell or the like?

[15:47:48] Zathras just curious

[15:49:58] Zathras I did, there are _many_

[17:21:05] Zathras yeah, twenty years ago might fit

[17:21:08] Zathras na

[17:21:13] Zathras uhm, sorry

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