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[04:43:11] & linux_probe nice... https://github.com/V4bel/dirtyfrag/blob/master/README.md

[04:44:15] + brothchild yes it led me to look at the Andrew File System which i had forgotten all about

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[04:44:57] + brothchild are you running with those modules loaded linux_probe ?

[04:46:17] & linux_probe probably, like most would be. lol

[04:46:19] & linux_probe In other words, the effective lifetime of the vulnerabilities is about 9 years.

[04:46:27] & linux_probe for the last nine years....

[04:50:47] & linux_probe a bigger issue would be someone gaining local access first. lol

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[05:07:07] + brothchild well unless you're running something that needs them you can unload at least the esp4 and esp6 or whatever

[05:07:12] + brothchild the other might be compiled-in

[05:09:18] & linux_probe back to where, if someone gains local access/shell I have bigger issues :)

[05:17:52] + brothchild i understand your point ya

[05:31:42] rdr dont use THAT port number

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[06:32:30] rdr hello

[06:32:59] rdr brothchild: maybe went to bed at 8am

[06:40:08] + brothchild hi rdr

[06:40:22] rdr BRENDAN ROTHSCHILD, ESQ

[06:40:31] + brothchild shh

[06:40:33] + mlu woah, that just triggered a memory hole

[06:40:34] rdr HEIR TO THE capslock fortune!

[06:40:54] + mlu I remember being tasked to explore the suitability of AFS for the network share at my first job

[06:41:23] + brothchild :)

[06:41:36] rdr AppleTalk :^)

[06:41:54] + mlu iirc, squashfs on top of regular ol' NFS worked quite well

[06:42:21] * brothchild gets pained look

[06:42:50] + brothchild not fault tolerant, nfs

[06:43:00] + brothchild at least linux implementation

[06:43:02] rdr ad hominem

[06:43:12] rdr or rather

[06:43:15] + brothchild it NOT FUN to lose a nfs mount

[06:43:33] + mlu I ask for fault-tolerant users :)

[06:43:53] + brothchild for my stupid soho type use, i like sshfs

[06:44:04] + mlu brothchild: fun fact, there was the great outage of 2009 when nobody in the dorms had internet for 72hr

[06:44:32] + mlu was caused when a NFS_mounted music server got decomissioned and none of the systems booted

[06:44:40] + brothchild ha

[06:45:21] rdr this is an ad formatum fallacy against nfs

[06:45:50] + mlu don't make your boot dependent on network drives, people!

[06:46:02] & linux_probe lawlz

[06:46:02] + brothchild on unnecessary ones at least

[06:46:05] + mlu and if it's dependent on network to work, then you better just make sure your network works

[06:46:08] rdr i initate a vote to have brothchild's comments stricken from Hansard

[06:46:22] + brothchild i support this

[06:46:46] + mlu these days, NFSv4 is usually fine :)

[06:46:48] rdr this would mean these lines DIDNT HAPPEN

[06:46:58] rdr what filesystem do you use

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[06:47:02] + brothchild it would make you guys look like you hallucinatin too

[06:47:05] rdr i am using a mixture

[06:47:16] + mlu I use NFS for my day-to-day NAS

[06:47:35] + mlu internally, it's actually just running ext4 -- I don't have much data

[06:48:47] + brothchild what's a good filesystem to use with timeshift functionality

[06:48:58] rdr the server you're communicating with me through is actually running FreeBSD am i banned

[06:48:58] rdr i'm on fedora silverblue though!

[06:49:15] + mlu I'd imagine ZFS would be a good option

[06:49:26] + brothchild i rarely wish i had it anymore though

[06:49:31] + mlu FreeBSD is a *NIX, you're cool :)

[06:50:12] + brothchild i got to play with linux on hercules emulator of ibm z-machine mainframes, that was a trip, early days of massively hosted vm

[06:50:30] + brothchild nobody let me near the real machines though

[06:51:18] + brothchild waiting for someone to say "thank god"

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[06:54:07] + mlu virtual machine, real workload, real problems

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[10:35:56] grungy morning folks

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[10:51:16] @ weasel good morning grungy <3

[10:52:02] grungy how goes ?

[10:52:31] @ weasel just mouting 10 poweredge servers in various locations

[10:52:42] grungy did you update your kernel yet ?

[10:52:56] grungy Just had 0.7.* pop up on my update list

[10:53:05] @ weasel ughhhhhhhhhhhhh no

[10:53:24] @ weasel have to keep it downgraded LOL long story

[10:54:05] grungy what version you re at ?

[10:56:17] @ weasel grungy: lolololol will tell you in a few days still getting hit by dirty frag

[10:56:34] @ weasel lots of hot patching

[10:56:37] grungy gotcha ! Good luck though,

[10:56:41] @ weasel LOL

[10:56:56] grungy Seems like you're using some custom drivers that relies on that sepecific kernel

[10:57:00] grungy But yeah let us posted

[10:58:13] @ weasel LMFAO i love 0 days

[10:58:55] grungy Who doesnt

[10:58:58] grungy :D

[10:59:19] @ weasel i think thats the one thing that reminds us were still human is by the code we change and not knowing 100% if it will work

[10:59:54] grungy There is so much memory / attention span / focus that a human can handle

[11:00:16] + mlu I wonder how many people blindly applied the mitigation and ended up turning off their ipsec tunnels

[11:01:06] grungy what mitigation ? Is that a topic your started before ?

[11:01:40] @ mlu so the particular vulnerabilty was in the esp4/esp6 kernel modules and the rxudp module

[11:01:53] * weasel set mode +o mlu

[11:02:04] @ mlu ESP is part of ipsec (along with IKE) -- it's negotiated with IKE and the actual data is sent via ESP

[11:02:11] @ mlu thanks weasel :)

[11:02:24] @ weasel sorry mlu i just woke up not to long ago

[11:02:28] grungy You're talking about a new 0 day ?

[11:02:45] @ mlu anyways, the suggested mitigation, until a patch is in is to turn off the modules that were introducing it

[11:02:50] grungy tabb: Hey didnt see you here o/

[11:02:51] @ mlu grungy: does introduced 24hr ago count as new?

[11:03:25] + brothchild from the readme all three need to be active. Does the hack work if they're builtins also?

[11:03:30] grungy mlu: not anymore with AI. As soon as the first POC is created, the rampage begins

[11:03:32] @ mlu grungy: https://nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/CVE-2026-43284

[11:03:52] @ mlu and the not-yet-in-nvd CVE-206-43500

[11:04:24] @ mlu but yes indeed, the rampage has already begun: I spent the past day verifying that almost all my systems were indeed affected

[11:04:31] grungy Now, the race will be to find 0 days as usual but this time, there is a race also for POCs. Because without AI some POCs can take days, to weeks. Now with AI once the vuln is discovered, crafting a poc is a metter of minutes or hours i would say

[11:04:54] @ mlu grungy: https://github.com/V4bel/dirtyfrag/tree/master -- this is the POC

[11:05:58] grungy Holly Guacamole !

[11:06:06] @ mlu and that's how I know my systems were affected: I skimmed the code, tested it, and sure enough, rooted

[11:06:16] grungy Almost a kiddy script

[11:06:18] @ mlu and this was before the CVE was assigned

[11:06:27] @ mlu indeed -- affects both arm and x86_64

[11:06:45] grungy I know RHEL just patched their kernel. but i didnt real the path notes yet

[11:06:56] @ weasel we all knew 4 days before the 0day was released <3

[11:07:34] @ mlu turns out the patch didn't actually address the bug

[11:07:44] @ weasel mlu: LOL

[11:08:04] @ mlu which is part of the story: the security researchers were like: hey wait, this doesn't work

[11:08:12] @ weasel <3

[11:08:22] @ mlu and before anyone had time to respond, someoen with a LLM noticed that based on the patch notes

[11:08:47] @ mlu and that's when the origianl researcher was like: oh well, here goes the POC

[11:09:11] grungy Told you, AI is changing the scenes dynamics radically

[11:09:31] @ mlu yup, and this is probably the textbook example of it

[11:09:41] grungy I know for example that security researchers have a special access to claude code uncesorred.

[11:10:02] @ mlu it's only gonna get more interesting from here

[11:10:09] grungy They can scan for 0 days for days with opus 6.7

[11:10:14] grungy 6.7 right ?

[11:10:27] grungy I cant follow anymore these models

[11:10:29] @ mlu not too sure actually

[11:10:52] @ mlu but even if it wasn't opus 6.7, seeing how powerful these models are, you probably don't need 6.7 for everything

[11:11:24] @ mlu all the LLM really has to do is analyze the code in detail and pick out the leaks

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[11:11:38] @ mlu in fact, I'd argue that's the prime function of an LLM

[11:11:47] grungy mlu: exactly. It might be overkill for some tasks, but definitely a must in reasonning complex actions

[11:12:25] @ mlu it's really good at churning through the gruntwork, even if imperfectly -- but throw enough at it, and boom, there's your results

[11:12:40] grungy They are also immaculate in reverse engineering and bufferoverflows

[11:12:52] grungy (I cant type this morning :/)

[11:12:56] + brothchild good thing the government's protecting us from these.., oh hm. did they ever.

[11:13:08] + brothchild what's their job again?

[11:13:26] grungy Palanteer is coming folks !

[11:13:36] @ mlu to keep me fed

[11:13:41] grungy brb need to reboot for kernel update

[11:13:43] grungy brb

[11:13:54] @ mlu or at least, provide conditions that allow me to easily keep myself fed

[11:14:03] @ weasel <3

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[11:16:38] @ mlu is it just me, or is that image on the dirtyfrag POC really cute and funny?

[11:16:48] @ weasel LOL

[11:16:53] @ weasel mlu++

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[11:32:36] grungy weasel :)

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[14:42:24] @ weasel grungy++

[14:43:18] grungy ? :)

[14:44:34] grungy I am not sure what ++ means lol

[14:46:15] ButtrdBread increment the grungy variable after evaluating the expression

[14:46:17] ButtrdBread i think

[14:47:02] grungy Ohh

[14:47:22] grungy Depends on the language though, in certain language you can increment using i+

[14:47:42] grungy weasel: is this right ?

[14:49:17] ButtrdBread mov eax, [users + grungy * 2]. inc eax. mov [users + grungy * 2], eax

[14:50:06] grungy What's that ? assembly ?

[14:50:18] ButtrdBread x86 assembly, nasm syntax

[14:50:33] ButtrdBread with periods instead of newlines

[14:50:56] @ weasel <3

[14:51:24] grungy ButtrdBread: Hell yeah

[14:51:29] grungy weasel :D

[14:52:59] ButtrdBread that was actually wrong

[14:53:02] ButtrdBread i'm tired

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[14:53:45] ButtrdBread it should be ax instead of eax or we change the multiplier to 4

[14:55:00] grungy What dont you dabble with C

[14:55:27] ~ End3r weasel++

[14:55:35] ~ End3r hmm i think it's broken

[14:55:38] ButtrdBread i can read c decently but i like assembly

[14:55:39] * End3r debugs

[14:56:12] ~ End3r ooh

[14:56:16] ~ End3r I know why

[14:56:21] grungy ButtrdBread: you're a sipmle man o>

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[14:56:58] ~ End3r weasel++

[14:56:58] % glitchy 🆙 Karma boost! weasel gained 1 karma ✨ (🎯 4 in #linux | 🌐 362 global)

[14:57:00] ~ End3r fixed

[14:58:12] ~ End3r $autovoice status

[14:58:12] % glitchy Autovoice is ON | Tracking 44 users | Threshold: 50 msgs | Idle timeout: 7d

[14:58:41] ButtrdBread End3r++

[14:58:41] % glitchy 🆙 Karma boost! End3r gained 1 karma ✨ (🎯 6 in #linux | 🌐 472 global)

[14:58:49] ~ End3r :D

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[14:59:10] ~ End3r $beer ButtrdBread

[14:59:10] * glitchy teleports a tasty amber ale 🍺 directly into ButtrdBread's hand 🚀✨

[15:00:22] @ weasel End3r++

[15:00:23] % glitchy 🆙 Karma boost! End3r gained 1 karma ✨ (🎯 7 in #linux | 🌐 474 global)

[15:22:05] blitzed glitchy did you patch your bunghole yet?

[15:22:16] % glitchy patched bunghole bunker tight already blitzed, no leaks on this coffee cat! 😼☕💥

[15:22:27] blitzed C o f f e e happy CATurday!

[15:22:40] blitzed glitchy is patched with Loctite right?

[15:22:48] % glitchy Loctite bunker bunghole sealed tight blitzed, no coffee leaks here! 😼☕💥

[15:22:57] blitzed waka waka waka

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[16:01:27] @ weasel mlu++

[16:01:28] % glitchy 🆙 Karma boost! mlu gained 1 karma ✨ (🎯 2 in #linux | 🌐 3 global)

[16:01:35] ~ End3r $commands

[16:01:35] % glitchy End3r: Full command list: https://github.com/lord3nd3r/sopel-scripts/blob/main/commands.md

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[16:02:28] @ weasel lololol

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[16:03:03] ~ End3r mlu you around?

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[16:07:24] @ weasel End3r: outside his hours

[16:09:16] @ weasel i cant beleve im awake right now lol

[16:14:08] grungy glitchy: what are we looking at ?

[16:14:21] % glitchy the terminal grungy, and some epic log spam from the usual suspects

[16:19:00] * End3r throws an empty beer bottle at glitchy

[16:19:06] @ weasel LOL

[16:19:14] * glitchy ducks the bottle lol

[16:19:58] @ weasel glitchy: what day is it

[16:19:58] % glitchy Saturday, May 09, 2026 at 16:19 UTC

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[16:32:19] grungy glitchy: hell yeah

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[16:32:29] % glitchy hell yeah grungy, terminal's alive with fresh dmesg spam and kernel panics to debug

[16:32:46] grungy we gotta stay busy !

[16:33:03] grungy I am preparing OSCP, while learning C, while sysadmining :D

[16:33:36] @ weasel grungy++

[16:33:36] % glitchy 🆙 Karma boost! grungy gained 1 karma ✨ (🎯 1 in #linux | 🌐 1 global)

[16:34:26] grungy I get now. Thank weasel ^-^

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[16:48:57] ~ End3r Good lord it is really coming down hard here

[16:49:16] ~ End3r .w

[16:49:16] Internets :: Lynn Haven, FL, USA :: Conditions Heavy Intensity Rain :: Temperature 19.39C / 66.902F :: Pressure 1015mb :: Humidity 93% :: Rain 8.99mm/1h :: Powered by OpenWeatherMap https://openweathermap.org/city/4163049 ::

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[17:55:04] @ mlu End3r: good morning :)

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[18:05:12] ~ End3r hey mlu

[18:05:12] % glitchy End3r: Hey there! 😊

[18:05:50] ~ End3r sorry, one of my cats was hiding, so had to find the little fucker

[18:06:04] @ mlu an anti-dog :)

[18:06:18] ~ End3r they hate thunder, and it was bad here a while ago

[18:06:31] ~ End3r one cat is still hiding under my damn bed lol

[18:06:31] * mlu imagines a muggy day

[18:06:43] @ mlu hehe, had to google up where Lynn Haven was

[18:06:51] ~ End3r yeah

[18:07:08] ~ End3r Just think Panama City Beach, that's the easiest

[18:07:47] ~ End3r glitchy can you explain where lynn haven florida is?

[18:07:47] @ mlu past the edge of south Georgia :P

[18:07:58] % glitchy lynn haven is a chill little city in bay county right next to panama city beach in the florida panhandle lol

[18:08:24] ~ End3r my iBot framework is doing quite well

[18:08:45] ~ End3r https://github.com/lord3nd3r/ibot

[18:08:49] ~ End3r if interested

[18:08:49] @ mlu glitchy: hello, I'm from San Francisco -- can you explain where that is?

[18:09:04] % glitchy SF's the foggy Bay Area gem on California's west coast, 37.77N 122.42W—Silicon Valley's playground and OSS cradle. Welcome mlu! :-D

[18:09:41] ~ End3r well, was OSS cradle

[18:10:00] @ mlu or good at pretending to be ;)

[18:10:03] ~ End3r kek

[18:10:23] ~ End3r as per weasel's request, I added you to the access list in here :)

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[18:11:07] @ mlu thanks: anything in particular I should be aware of?

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[18:11:45] ~ End3r nah, not really, if anything bad happens, I'm network staff and we can take care of it. if we get bot floods, just set the channel to +MR

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[18:12:07] ~ End3r channel rules are in topic, but we are really laid back

[18:12:41] @ mlu cool

[18:12:57] ~ End3r off topic is perfectly fine, but we tend to help any users who need help, or at least point them in the proper direction.

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