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| [01/13/25 02:16:47] login: ComputerTech: Are your parents living with you? |
| [01/13/25 02:04:15] therock247uk: lol |
| [01/13/25 02:03:11] ComputerTech: Oo <3 |
| [01/13/25 02:03:05] ComputerTech: :o |
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| [01/12/25 10:53:32] Oo: shhhhhhhh |
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| [01/10/25 02:10:41] login: I mean 'in excess of the law' not to mean 'in violation of the law', but 'stricter than what the law requires of private entities, which is nothing' |
| [01/10/25 01:32:53] TheFatherMind: No, it does not. |
| [01/09/25 11:06:47] login: maybe the phrase 'excess of the law' has two meanings |
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| [01/09/25 08:46:40] coderain: ComputerTech <3 |
| [01/09/25 08:38:18] TheFatherMind: We love you ComputerTech |
| [01/09/25 07:18:23] ComputerTech: <3 |
| [01/09/25 07:18:21] ComputerTech: so I'll go on lappie soon and poke around with your suggestions |
| [01/09/25 07:18:12] ComputerTech: I'm feeling a lil better today |
| [01/09/25 07:18:06] ComputerTech: Amiga600 ofc |
| [01/09/25 06:54:14] Amiga600: obv not |
| [01/09/25 06:53:23] TheFatherMind: 👆 |
| [01/09/25 06:52:36] Amiga600: CT did u consider my suggestions to cut the spam off |
| [01/09/25 06:37:10] ComputerTech: :o |
| [01/09/25 06:33:16] TheFatherMind: You completely misread what I said login. my point is that it is *NOT* in excess of the law. I am not going to waste my trying to figure out how to filter it. I am just going to leave. |
| [01/09/25 04:27:24] login: but that will still be server-side filtering instead of client-side filtering |
| [01/09/25 04:27:11] login: If an AI can set 'rep' based on the 'spammyness' rating of the messages that fresh new clients send, that could work with unreal's existing mechanisms |
| [01/09/25 04:26:22] login: That way, borderline spammy or trolly content can also be filtered (by content, not by nick) according to each user's wishes instead of a single standard imposed on all members of the channel |
| [01/09/25 04:25:40] login: If they come back with new nicknames, can't filtering by content judged by some small AI to be 'spammy' on the client-side be sufficient? |
| [01/09/25 04:24:53] login: TheFatherMind: Yup, it's not government censorship, but private censorship in excess of the law |
| [01/08/25 08:46:57] Amiga600: ofc its upto each networks admin to enable such features - unreal has many anti-spam stuff built in |
| [01/08/25 08:46:22] Amiga600: there are server-side filtering options on unreal which would stop the spammers (since rep is 0 on fresh new clients) - existing clients would have a high rep, so would not be stopped or blocked by such measures :) |
| [01/08/25 08:00:04] TheFatherMind: * their own Terms of Service |
| [01/08/25 07:59:27] TheFatherMind: Kicking them and filtering them is not helpful as they come back with new nicknames. I will only tolerate this for so long before I close the channel. |
| [01/08/25 07:58:20] TheFatherMind: login No.. that is not censorship in the sense of what you are implying. Private entities are 100% allowed to censor anyone within constraints and they are allowed to maintain their on Terms of Service within constraints. It is the government that is not allowed to do that. |
| [01/08/25 02:39:40] ComputerTech: Amiga600 <3 |
| [01/08/25 02:39:36] ComputerTech: and busy ;-; |
| [01/08/25 02:39:33] ComputerTech: I'm sick lol |
| [01/08/25 02:39:29] ComputerTech: no? |
| [01/08/25 02:39:28] ComputerTech: 01:05:15 <login> ComputerTech is on the side of allowing spammy speech here too |
| [01/08/25 02:15:21] login: if someone is being kicked on behalf of all other members, then that's censorship, isn't it? |
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| [01/08/25 04:03:55] DasBrain: I just kick them in the channel I have op in. Or leave the channels that are badly maintained ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
| [01/08/25 12:19:22] Amiga600: depends on the irc client though, not all irc clients have filtering options |
| [01/08/25 12:05:41] login: Everyone can modify their IRC client to filter messages that look spammy if they wouldn't like to see them |
| [01/08/25 12:05:16] login: ComputerTech is on the side of allowing spammy speech here too |
| [01/07/25 11:16:25] Amiga600: he might be away somewhere - give him chance lol |
| [01/07/25 10:35:52] TheFatherMind: ComputerTech 👆 |
| [01/07/25 10:35:46] TheFatherMind: Well can we please do something?? |
| [01/07/25 09:12:03] Amiga600: I have never had spammers since I set them on 4 ircs where I am ircop |
| [01/07/25 09:11:44] Amiga600: well dont really need such restrictions if some server-side settings are done - I have mentioned it to CT - if they are set, then spam should be history here completely |
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| [01/07/25 08:52:25] Dragon: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
| [01/07/25 08:52:19] * Dragon set mode +R |
| [01/07/25 08:41:23] TheFatherMind: Can we get this channel set to restricted so only verified registered people can join or post to it? |
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| [01/07/25 04:43:14] Amiga600: sup |
| [01/07/25 04:35:15] Dragon: ffs |
| [01/07/25 02:07:58] Amiga600: ComputerTech please check your PM, Thanks :) |
| [01/07/25 02:02:05] Amiga600: bloomin eck |
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| [01/07/25 01:09:12] maepv: "isn't it beautiful?" |
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| [01/07/25 01:08:44] maepv: .''. |
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| [01/07/25 06:58:16] login: i don't mean that in a bad way |
| [01/07/25 06:58:04] login: it's amazing that the channel name doesn't attract more people like ComputerTech |
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| [01/06/25 10:41:56] tydel: snap |
| [01/06/25 09:11:52] daniel: and you chose here? |
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| [01/06/25 07:57:21] minigig: Hello , first time here. Coming back to irc after 20 years. |
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| [01/06/25 05:36:39] \g: maybe that's the hard time they're having |
| [01/06/25 04:34:32] Dragon: if only they would stay connected |
| [01/06/25 04:34:23] Dragon: yup |
| [01/06/25 04:33:42] TheFatherMind: Keep misisng them. |
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| [01/05/25 04:11:20] MrHydes: I'm having a hard time configuring my network |
| [01/05/25 04:10:53] MrHydes: Is there anyone using pfsense? |
| [01/05/25 04:10:40] MrHydes: Hi there |
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| [01/03/25 11:27:20] login: (the movie) |
| [01/03/25 11:27:05] login: A Children-of-Men scenario |
| [01/03/25 11:26:52] login: a real power-law distribution of genes instead of the current natural mixing |
| [01/03/25 11:26:33] login: a billionaire will have 1000x the clones of a millionaire (just going by linear ratio of net worth |
| [01/03/25 11:26:06] login: And raise their cloned children to take over their role |
| [01/03/25 11:25:48] login: And people will just clone themselves in a pod or something |
| [01/03/25 11:25:37] login: Another alternative is that cloning will be liberalised |
| [01/03/25 11:25:15] login: So Western culture will have to regenerate itself in the children of fundamentalists |
| [01/03/25 11:24:59] login: because liberal parents don't have children |
| [01/03/25 11:24:44] login: Or maybe liberal people have conservative parents |
| [01/03/25 11:24:33] login: There must be a way to have a liberal culture but also not below-replacement fertility |
| [01/03/25 11:23:59] login: At which point their fertility rate will start going down too |
| [01/03/25 11:23:47] login: Unless you can convince the Afghan, African and Israeli kids to give their own culture up and adopt Western culture |
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| [01/03/25 11:23:22] login: i.e., Western culture will be dead and fundamentalist culture will take over |
| [01/03/25 11:22:57] login: So they'll be moving into the now emptier cities |
| [01/03/25 11:22:45] login: And you know, it's Africa, Israel and Afghanistan that is having a lot of kids |
| [01/03/25 11:22:19] login: I'd be pretty sad to see the pinnacle of human endeavour behind us |
| [01/03/25 11:21:57] login: The US is already facing a mild version of this |
| [01/03/25 11:21:44] login: Crumbling infrastucture, because who wants to be pouring concrete and doing construction |
| [01/03/25 11:21:14] login: Abandoned towns |
| [01/03/25 11:21:00] login: House prices will crash |
| [01/03/25 11:20:36] login: Slower athletes, fewer new movie stars, fewer of everything |
| [01/03/25 11:20:03] login: Just a winding back of extreme human talent and skill |
| [01/03/25 11:19:35] login: higher taxation due to the erosion of the tax base (in absolute terms) |
| [01/03/25 11:19:26] login: Imagine chronic job shortages, accelerating increases in price |
| [01/03/25 11:19:00] login: Fewer people is a danger because none of the economic models take that into account |
| [01/03/25 11:17:58] login: Or be very entertaining |
| [01/03/25 11:17:35] login: Maybe some of them will make life even more comfortable |
| [01/03/25 11:17:24] login: i'd say that's a positive |
| [01/03/25 11:17:10] login: more people = more brains instead of soil + plants |
| [01/03/25 11:16:37] Dragon: are you arguing for *more* people? lol |
| [01/03/25 11:16:33] Dragon: which is bad for disease isn't it? |
| [01/03/25 11:16:09] login: isn't that because cities are densely populated? |
| [01/03/25 11:16:07] Dragon: you know how many hours I need to drive to hike without someone else? |
| [01/03/25 11:15:58] Dragon: it feels like there are too many people because there are |
| [01/03/25 11:15:51] Dragon: again, no |
| [01/03/25 11:15:26] login: New material gets deposited to the Earth via meteorites, but otherwise it's just all recycled via natural and artificial processes |
| [01/03/25 11:14:59] login: The ultimate source of energy, actually entropy, is the sun |
| [01/03/25 11:14:41] login: Cheap energy will make all the other cycles fast enough to not be an impediment to human population growth |
| [01/03/25 11:14:01] login: That way, the sunlit part of the Earth can transmit power to the dark part |
| [01/03/25 11:13:26] login: Maybe even intercontinental HVDC lines just like internet submarine cables |
| [01/03/25 11:13:10] login: The only missing piece is capturing the sun's energy over a wider area and buffering it for 24-48 hours using a battery or other method |
| [01/03/25 11:12:40] login: It's the same with water purification using desalination plants |
| [01/03/25 11:12:27] login: The natural version would be the nitrogen cycle, but we've been able to increase the rate of nitrogen fixation using energy |
| [01/03/25 11:11:50] login: i.e., urea |
| [01/03/25 11:11:41] login: We've solved the issue in food by converting nitrogen in the atmosphere into fertiliser |
| [01/03/25 11:11:20] login: The only reason it feels like there are too many people is because extracting resources from ores isn't economical enough due to energy constraints on purification of bad-quality ores |
| [01/03/25 11:10:12] Dragon: no. |
| [01/03/25 11:10:01] login: Or 'the world is too comfortable' |
| [01/03/25 11:09:34] login: It's like saying the GDP is too high |
| [01/03/25 11:09:20] Dragon: good, there are too many people. |
| [01/03/25 11:09:18] login: or "i haven't thought about that" |
| [01/03/25 11:09:10] login: or "i will be happy with my babies, i.e., cats" |
| [01/03/25 11:09:00] login: The answer I get is, "my husband and i have decided to have no children" |
| [01/03/25 11:08:47] login: I have asked every woman around me semi-casually what their plan for children is |
| [01/03/25 11:08:28] TheFatherMind: I will get right on that. |
| [01/03/25 11:08:27] login: just because of the historical prevalence of those who want 0-1 child |
| [01/03/25 11:08:01] login: And, research has found that one needs to have 5 for the family line to still be around 100 years later |
| [01/03/25 11:07:39] login: i.e., all the women will have to have 2, or some will have to have 3 for others to have less than 2 |
| [01/03/25 11:07:19] login: If you want more than half the people to have children, some men will have to start giving birth |
| [01/03/25 11:07:08] login: Half the people = men, the other half = women |
| [01/03/25 11:06:43] login: to make up for the ones having 0-1 |
| [01/03/25 11:06:35] login: More than half the people need to have more than 2 for it to be solved |
| [01/03/25 11:06:01] login: if one were to extrapolate to the population being the same as in historical times, there will be such few people that all technological process will be 'lost knowledge' |
| [01/03/25 11:05:22] login: so the quality of the people left over will decline too |
| [01/03/25 11:05:16] login: It's that if the population starts declining, there will be fewer doctors and teachers |
| [01/03/25 11:05:03] login: The food is not the problem |