Tuesday, February 6, 2024
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heather
I think its perfectly ok to ask that
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heather
but you are going to get a lot of very different and opinionated answers lol
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heather
I am using proxmox, debian, ubuntu server, RHEL, and arch depending on what im doing
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heather
sometimes for fun I get to throw kali on
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heather
but that hasnt happened in over a year
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heather
for beginners I highly recommend linux mint or fedora
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bigfatnoob
heather may i ask why we chose exfat?
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bigfatnoob
Is exFAT a special format for bootable/Live linux thumb drives?
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heather
it is just the safest option in this scenario
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bigfatnoob
i'm using mint :) . you know why?
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bigfatnoob
answer: because i'm a bigfatnoob
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bigfatnoob
it's nice to be free of windows :)
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heather
wait till you come full circle and maintain a ton of linux machines and still go back to windows for music and art
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bigfatnoob
heather, do we have to set the USB thumb drive to hybrid mode? Smeone says setting it to "hybrid mode" makes it boot more like a hdd
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heather
what they meant is downloading a hybrid ISO file and loading it with rufus, or unetbootin, or whathaveyou
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heather
you cant do that
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heather
so we are trying the least convenient and likey solution
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bigfatnoob
not sure how our way is inconvenient. seems very convenient to me :)
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bigfatnoob
very simple, that's for sure. just click "mount as iso" and drag-drop.
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heather
its about to get stupid lol
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heather
because booting efi requires you to set it up in the bios and navigate the efi implementation on the laptop and hope that it in fact has it and doesnt have secure boot locked in
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heather
it will ghet fucky I promise
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heather
lets pray you dont have one where you literally have to type commands at an EFI console
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heather
because im starving and only willing to help so far
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bigfatnoob
okay, if this method doesn't work, i'll visit a friend and install mint the way mint suggests (using balena's etcher)
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heather
that is the ideal solution lol
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bigfatnoob
but i'd rather not ask for help from ppl i know. idon't want them to know i use linux
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heather
nerds are cool now
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bigfatnoob
it's really cool if you have a billion dollar startup like Facebook or Insta or etc
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bigfatnoob
it's not like it was in the past
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heather
yeah when I was growing up it was weird
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heather
now everyone's nerdy and even the cool kids wear glasses
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heather
some of them are wearing nerd glasses without a prescription
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heather
D&D and magic the gathering are POPULAR
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heather
the new generations getting to be nerdy and be cool
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heather
I grew up over 20 years ago when it wasnt cool lol
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bigfatnoob
oh, you wish you were young (again) at this time of history?
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End3r
heather, I feel that
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End3r
and I am 12 years older than you
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End3r
although, I am a Gen-X Florida Man, fuck these kids lol
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End3r
That is one of my alts, yes
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End3r
This is my channel.
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End3r
do /cs info #linux
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End3r
yeah, after the big split
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bigfatnoob
i thought this would have been registered 20 years ago
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heather
I feel like such a hipster saying "I was a nerd before it was cool" lol xD
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End3r
we changed services around 3 years ago
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End3r
all channels and nicks had to be re-registered
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heather
that's a rare moment in history
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End3r
heather, lol
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End3r
heather, has that one heather bothered you again?
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End3r
heathen*
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bigfatnoob
i wonder the proportion of ppl in this channel who don't work with computers at work.
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End3r
bigfatnoob, 99.9% of the computers I work on are windows. I refuse to use windows in my home.
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bigfatnoob
like it would be amusing if someone says they're a cowboy in the daytime
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End3r
i misread what you posted
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heather
I knew a guy from texas who did horse ranching
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heather
right on IRC loving anime and linux all day
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heather
yeah people come in all colors
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bigfatnoob
heather, true. but usually things go together. like ppl who have body modifications are more likely (than those without) to have tattoos
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bigfatnoob
or at least that's what I suspect
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heather
shit you arent wrong
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heather
Im not even going to tell you how good of a read that is for me
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heather
wait I can see you typing
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bigfatnoob
i wonder the proportion of ppl on linux who are introverts . my guess is 90%
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heather
you're on a next gen irc client and can likely see my picture
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heather
idk, I think that's kinda accurate
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End3r
what are you two using?
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heather
but im hella extroverted IRL
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bigfatnoob
heather, i don't know how you look like or whether you're a man or woman
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heather
I'm using irccloud
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heather
he's using kiwiirc
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bigfatnoob
because i'm a bigfatnoob. lol
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sticks with hexchat on a znc
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[IRC-nERDs] <+nerds> [Kiwi IRC]
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heather
I used to be an IRssi over tmux on a shell somewhere
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heather
but Im a girl and I like using irc with pictures and emojis on my phone
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End3r
I am over the whole everything shell phase
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End3r
I manage multiple networks, so hexchat is perfect for me
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[IRC-nERDs] <+nerds> [Imgur: The magic of the Internet]
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bigfatnoob
on irccloud you can upload a profile photo?
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nR
[IRC-nERDs] <+nerds> [Imgur: The magic of the Internet]
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End3r
my lil setup
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heather
im on my phone making dinner
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End3r
I have igloo on my phone
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heather
im making lentil soup with chicken and vegetables
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End3r
which connects to my znc or [3]
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bigfatnoob
i'm gonna eat a juicy steak when i get home
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End3r
I made spaghetti tonight, we already ate
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End3r
you know what
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bigfatnoob
i'm in pacific coast and i eat when i return home from wherever i am
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End3r
I feel the need, the need for weed.
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heather
bigfatnoob: lol how you say you're single without saying it out loud
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bigfatnoob
i don't like to be home in the daytime because i get lonely
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End3r
gonna go to the shed and toke. bbiab
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heather
man a steak AND pizza
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bigfatnoob
my first meal of the day. :)
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bigfatnoob
i skip breakfast and lunch usually
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heather
i skipped today because I was making breakbeats at work lol
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heather
I'm judging myself for that, it was a slow day
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bigfatnoob
is breakbeats a typo for breakfast? coz google says it's a word
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heather
its a style of drums using cut up and glitched out samples
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heather
often utilizing a form of the amen break
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heather
or similar funk record samples
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heather
one sec I'll throw you an example
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bigfatnoob
i had lentil soup last week. a chef made it. so good
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bigfatnoob
does anybody here use apple too?
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bigfatnoob
I don't because I'm a poornoob
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bigfatnoob
heather which of my sentences says "i'm single" ? that i was gonna eat steak and pizza? or...?
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End3r
Ooh yeah
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End3r
I have igloo on my phone
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End3r
I can irc from here lmao
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bigfatnoob
how come this general linux has just 174? I would expect a thousand since it's an "umbrella" group
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End3r
Gotta clean my bong again tomorrow =\
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End3r
Mj isn't drugs
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End3r
It is an herb
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End3r
Also, it is prescribed to me by my doctor.
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bigfatnoob
it helps with your ailments i guess.
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heather
lol bigfatnoob it was the pizza with steak
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End3r
I would probably be in prison if I couldn't consume my broccoli
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heather
there isnt a woman alive who is going to let you do that forever
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bigfatnoob
married ppl don't eat pizza with steak?
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heather
no because they dont go together and its going to kill you lol
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bigfatnoob
the steak is a regular thing
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heather
its like "I have a mattress in with no bedframe or headboard"
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End3r
That's what she said
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bigfatnoob
i have a mattress without the elasticized cover
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bigfatnoob
oh, actually, my mattress doesn't have a bedframe or headboard either
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bigfatnoob
yikes, i match your stereotype
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End3r
Tell me you are single without telling me you are single.
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bigfatnoob
good thing i have no visitors (except one)
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heather
all men do before they get trained
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End3r
heather, you sound like my wife and eldest daughter
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heather
eat weird stuff and have that bed situation lol
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bigfatnoob
my one exception was a friend who did some major decluttering for me
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heather
they even revert back to factory defaults later if you dont update
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bigfatnoob
who else here has a profile photo?
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heather
nobody I've seen so far lol
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heather
I see a few on Darkscience and HTS tho
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End3r
heather, join #freenode
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bigfatnoob
End3r aren't we all on #freenode?
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End3r
the channel lol
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End3r
this is #linux
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End3r
on the freenode network
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End3r
you can join too if you want
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End3r
I won't bite unless you schizo post
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End3r
or talk about cp
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bigfatnoob
how do you get to irccloud's version of #linux?
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End3r
pay irccloud money
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heather
I use it for free lol
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heather
its not the best option, if you have time set up a bouncer
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heather
it has web links
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heather
and some next gen irc services are linked to support that feature on other services
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End3r
heather, is Danny doing okay?
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bigfatnoob
how can you access the weblinks?
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End3r
bigfatnoob, you have to be using irccloud lol
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bigfatnoob
but i won't say what my handle is coz im shy
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End3r
I can't use irc cloud
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End3r
as I am staff here and the admins of IRC Cloud can read your messages and stuff
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End3r
so, I just use my good ol znc
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End3r
heather, check notices
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heather
oh he hasnt been around for the last couple days
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End3r
I know his surgery stuff has caused him a shit load of pain
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heather
that's no good I hope he's doing ok
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End3r
heather, do you at least want a generic user vhost for freenode? it would be freenode/user/heather
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heather
ok I'll take it lol
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heather
I just cant think of a funny vhost lol
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End3r
heather, do /hs on
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End3r
there you go
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fully fully cloaked
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End3r
heather, are you the lady that does the jim carrey videos?
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heather
that's a different lady
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End3r
aah, just same name
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heather
she really does look like jim kerry
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End3r
you should take your last name out of irccloud
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bigfatnoob
End3r, you can see heather's pic if you're on irccloud apparently
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bigfatnoob
i'm on irccloud but don't know how to see people's profile photo
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heather
I show off my instagram and bandcamp all the time
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End3r
I don't use irccloud
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[IRC-nERDs] <+nerds> [Ender Wiggins]
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End3r
that's me
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heather
im nerdy but im also a social media girl lol
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End3r
if you use crapbook
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[IRC-nERDs] <+nerds> [Login • Instagram]
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End3r
following
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End3r
Sent you a DM
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End3r
so you know it is from me
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bigfatnoob
End3r i saw your june 19 2021 post and I heed your advice
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bigfatnoob
i make fake stuff up for "your favorite ____"
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End3r
which post?
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[IRC-nERDs] <+nerds> [Phitcom - PSA]
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End3r
That's my company
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End3r
you clicked on my Phitcom business page
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bigfatnoob
nice. i'd like to visit FL one day
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End3r
no it isn't
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nR
[IRC-nERDs] <+nerds> [Ender Wiggins]
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bigfatnoob
i clicked your enderwiggns page and then just clicked on the company name
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heather
omg why did I not eat all day and choose the thing that takes the longest to make
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heather
I'm literally ready to just order food while I wait
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bigfatnoob
thanks heather for your help. thanks end3 for founding this place :)
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heather
you're welcome bigfatnoob let me know if you need help with efi
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heather
it can be a diverse experience
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bigfatnoob
thanks. let's see if the USB will just plug and play
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bigfatnoob
so what can i do while i'm here in this channel
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bigfatnoob
how can i prepare for the problems?
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heather
yeah I told you at the begining this was the worst case scenartio and it was gonna get complicated lol
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heather
you need to turn on efi, legacy mode, and press the efi menu hotkey at startup
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heather
turn off boot security
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bigfatnoob
can't i just choose to boot up from the USB stick versus the SSD?
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bigfatnoob
i thought it was as simple as that
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heather
it likely wont let you turn on legacy mode without it
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bigfatnoob
my time on the computer will run out in 4 mintuse
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heather
not in this case babe
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heather
yikes, get the efi info for your laptop
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heather
and get the bios settings changed
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heather
you will HOPEFULLY just see the entry in the menu when you get to that step
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heather
however it may make you enter the kernel path and option manually
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bigfatnoob
if it doesn't work, i won't troubleshoot. i'll just visit someone and write the mint using balena etcher
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heather
honestly that is the best option here lol
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End3r
was he at a library or something?
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heather
yeah the machine would let him mount an ISO though
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heather
so I was gonna walk him through the EFI development boot process
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End3r
he just needs to install the iso to a usb drive
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heather
because everyone I can get on linux is a person im willing to help
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End3r
disable secure boot
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and boot from the drive
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salutes in communist stallman
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heather
he couldnt write the image
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heather
he had to copy everything and hope to use the EFI boot menu
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heather
its not the best
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End3r
yeah, he needs to just go to a friends house with a computer lol
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End3r
I mean if I were there with my usb stick, it would have been easy lol
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heather
that's what they all say
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heather
then they get there and cant plug it in right side up
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End3r
no, I do real IT for a living
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End3r
I could boot the library computer up in any OS I wanted to
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heather
but I got demoted from cybersecurity to helpdesk for reasons that are on my instagram
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heather
so if you guys need any new people
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heather
Ive even done presentations at conferences and taught malware reverse engineering workshops
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End3r
well, that beer went down faster than a fat kid on a see saw
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heather
man I want a beer
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heather
im calling it I'm getting doordash
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wife is chatty
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It is time for my nightly anime with my daughter. I have this up in another window if you need me.
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heather
awwww what a good dad :)
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[url] Pigeon detained on suspicion of spying released after eight months - CBS News | www.cbsnews.com
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this article broke my brain
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NULL__USER__
man i missed all the excitement.. irssi and everything shell :) -- i still jump in and use vim to edit my code when I have my dotfiles working xD.. anyone recommend anything for current day? I'm back on mIRC but this used to be my goto in like 99-2000ish?
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heather
how long have you been in prison?
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lol.. never had the full znc setup until recently so id usually just have it running while working in irssi when i worked on a mac.. but back on windows and rather than go irssi i went back to mirc
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heather
idk my all time favorite IRC client is BitchX
[02:18:14]
heather
but it sounds like you want to use a gui lol
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nR
[IRC-nERDs] <+nerds> [[text/plain] (257.0B)]
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Google
set mode +l 182
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Kulesh
you smell like good
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nR
[IRC-nERDs] <+nerds> [DCHUB ONE | VK]
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NULL__USER__
ill play around with that one on my linux box
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heather
nobody download any of that seriously
[02:27:24]
heather
what a fascinating and hilarious way to get pwned
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heather
is this like pwn the scriptkiddies who google dork cardlists
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heather
and then scrape that and have a dropper mill kinda vibe?
[02:30:47]
heather
i havent seen dumb like that since lurking in card mafia
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Google
set mode +l 181
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End3r
ooh shit
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End3r
clicks
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heather
you want hawt WAREZ bruh
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Kulesh
!click !clik
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heather
not to be confused with hot wheels
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End3r
kid went to bed
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End3r
wife went to bed
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heather
lol that place is adorabe
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End3r
That's what my daughter and I are currently watching
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End3r
got 3 eps down tonight
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End3r
ooh heather
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End3r
I have a public pi-hole server
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End3r
if you wanna use it
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heather
oh I have my own :)
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End3r
lemme ss my pi-hole info
[02:43:53]
heather
and full fortinet gear
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heather
and physical and virtual segmentation
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nR
[IRC-nERDs] <+nerds> [Imgur: The magic of the Internet]
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heather
I even run my desktop environment in VM's with snapshots
[02:45:26]
heather
so I can click stuff and explore stupidity