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[00:01:16] dgw !shop 2

[00:06:04] dgw !bang

[00:06:11] dgw :O

[00:06:34] dgw !duckstats

[00:06:48] dgw bug: it didn't tell me about being promoted to lv 8 again

[00:08:43] dgw $8b will this bug persist forever?

[00:08:50] dgw $8b will this bug persist forever?

[00:08:53] dgw .

[00:09:15] dgw $8b will this bug persist forever?

[01:16:04] dgw !bang

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[01:16:08] dgw !bang

[01:16:22] dgw !duckstats

[01:16:26] dgw !reload

[01:16:29] dgw !shop 2

[01:16:51] dgw PlasticSurgeryTech

[01:18:20] dgw hi

[01:18:25] dgw I'm watching a dude go insane https://youtu.be/Ky_JiZKSTKE

[01:20:36] dgw Part of me wishes the map was procedural

[01:20:40] dgw ngl

[01:21:05] dgw I cut my factory game teeth on Factorio, which isn't infinite, but often feels like it because the map is so big

[01:47:05] dgw !bang

[01:47:11] dgw :O

[01:47:13] dgw wew

[02:08:03] dgw hey, b0mbing people is ComputerTech's job

[02:17:05] dgw !bang

[02:17:09] dgw :>

[02:26:04] dgw !bang

[02:26:19] dgw d u c k s

[02:26:21] dgw ☐ Not REKT ☑ REKT

[02:26:28] dgw (the ducks, not you, FireWire)

[02:26:37] dgw sorry :(

[02:26:50] dgw I don't wanna be a greedy +q :(

[02:26:54] dgw .deowner

[02:26:56] dgw reeeeeeeeee

[02:27:14] dgw I'll just be a greedy whatever-mode-I-am-now

[02:27:19] dgw greedy +a

[02:27:41] dgw ComputerTech, I didn't deserve the +q so I took it off bb

[02:28:03] dgw o_O

[02:28:28] dgw still less of a joke than a California roll, sushi-chan

[02:28:30] dgw if that is your real name

[02:29:02] dgw yeah, that's the joke :D

[02:29:26] dgw it's on the menu at almost every American sushi place tho, so I get annoyed

[02:30:05] dgw if I ever make it to Japan I'm going to look at the sushi menu everywhere to see if I can find cream cheese anywhere

[02:30:13] dgw because that shit's way too common here

[02:30:31] dgw superkuh, get a sushi mat, some nori sheets, and some sushi rice

[02:30:41] dgw some of the best sushi I've had was made myself

[02:30:59] dgw not that I bother with raw fish at home, but it doesn't have to have that

[02:31:09] dgw veggies and some cured fish is fine

[02:31:29] dgw it's delicious, and you're missing out

[02:31:32] dgw I wanted you to know that

[02:31:56] dgw lol, superkuh pls cut the ends off

[02:32:13] dgw also https where

[02:32:22] dgw it's 2023 and Let's Encrypt exists

[02:32:39] dgw no no, Hawaiian is pineapple + canadian bacon

[02:32:44] dgw no fish

[02:33:03] dgw canadian bacon is more of a ham

[02:33:06] dgw idfk why it's called bacon

[02:33:20] dgw browser yells at me :(

[02:33:34] dgw nah

[02:33:38] dgw HTTPS is the future

[02:33:54] dgw ComputerTech is incredibly bad for the health of the web

[02:33:58] dgw change my mind :^)

[02:34:04] dgw (the person, not the channel)

[02:34:15] dgw (he'll be mad at me if he sobers up and sees that)

[02:34:35] dgw cert issuance needs to be reformed, then

[02:34:53] dgw don't say that plaintext is good just because currently certs suck

[02:35:17] dgw sushi-chan, french fries and ice cream are good together

[02:35:19] dgw in moderation

[02:35:30] dgw no argument, superkuh

[02:35:45] dgw I hate "to install $our_software_project just curl this .sh file directly into sh

[02:35:46] dgw "

[02:36:01] dgw wtf sushi-chan

[02:36:35] dgw didn't even complain about a self-signed cert

[02:36:40] dgw just complained that it was http://

[02:38:07] dgw nicks

[02:38:13] dgw if it's an account it still shows as not logged in

[02:38:25] dgw if you're on a temp nick for more than two seconds you should /ns group it

[02:39:15] dgw if you don't want to group (lots of valid reasons not), register that shit asap

[02:39:33] dgw the problem with accounts here is they expire pretty quickly

[02:39:50] dgw even grouped nicks do

[02:40:02] dgw much prefer the old freenode (rip) policy, and now Libera's

[02:40:12] dgw batch expiration of unused nicks every year or two

[02:40:32] dgw isn't that an account setting

[02:41:01] dgw can't you also require sasl for yourself

[02:41:22] dgw Libera at least also requires sasl for IP ranges known to host servers/bouncers

[02:41:50] dgw sushi-chan, so you're saying ComputerTech is in trouble

[02:41:51] dgw ?

[02:42:00] dgw heh, same brain

[02:42:41] dgw I mean, if someone doesn't have a personality, it's easier to fake being them

[02:42:47] dgw so CT had just better never disconnect :D

[02:43:30] dgw it's valid abuse-prevention, and the only issue I've seen superkuh raise is that it's annoying to implement SASL

[02:43:36] dgw but you only have to do that once per bot/framework

[02:43:58] dgw and tbh, the vast majority of hobby bots are gonna use someone else's code that already handles the IRC stuff for them

[02:44:09] dgw do you mean PLAIN?

[02:45:20] dgw "Connecting bots which lack SASL support from SASL access only ranges can be achieved if you connect the bot via a bouncer that does support SASL authentication." — https://libera.chat/guides/sasl

[02:45:44] dgw page also says that SASL restrictions are generally only applied to IP ranges that have a history of abuse/policy violations

[02:45:56] dgw so I just don't think it's as big an issue as superkuh implies

[02:46:45] dgw sushi-chan, stellar-scale EMP I guess? but we have bigger problems if that happens than just the internet getting knocked out

[02:47:47] dgw sushi-chan, you have to save said content before the Internet disappears

[02:47:49] dgw :wesmart:

[02:48:18] dgw this is basic r/DataHoarder wisdom, save what you care about when you start to care about it, because stuff disappears all the time without warning

[02:48:46] dgw though the sub does also get panic posts whenever it looks like a site or video creator is about to disappear

[02:49:02] dgw see also: Internet Archive (archive.org)

[02:49:08] dgw and archiveteam.org

[02:49:41] dgw Douglas Adams fan located :>

[02:49:56] dgw if it's yours, export

[02:50:04] dgw if it's not, pick a website mirroring tool

[02:50:17] dgw read the documentation for the blog platform you use

[02:50:23] dgw I can't help without details

[02:50:37] dgw that also depends on what platform you use

[02:50:48] dgw WordPress for example can dump out a zip file or something

[02:51:16] dgw It must not be too hard to export from Blogger, because I moved from it to WP a while ago (decade+)

[02:52:00] dgw https://support.google.com/blogger/answer/41387

[02:52:40] dgw if you mirror it, you can almost always rehost a static copy (no easy way to publish new posts, allow further comments, etc.)

[02:53:48] dgw aaaaaaaa

[02:54:07] dgw the newer specs depending on older ones is getting old tbh, lol

[02:54:15] dgw understandable in most cases, but old

[02:54:42] dgw it does

[02:54:52] dgw if you don't request the capabilities, they don't get enabled

[02:55:19] dgw with limited exceptions...... like insp/unreal (iirc) adding channel history replay with no opt-out, even for clients who don't request it

[02:55:44] dgw I agree mogad0n

[02:56:07] dgw only ops can set the mode, I guess

[02:56:19] dgw but once history is enabled, any client joining the channel gets the replay

[02:56:32] dgw and by default the user modes/flags to prevent it are not enabled

[02:56:54] dgw annoyed the hell out of me wrt Sopel; we ended up having to ignore messages with a timestamp earlier than the bot's startup time

[02:57:15] dgw 'cuz there was no way to tell the network STOP THAT

[02:57:26] dgw no standard/reliable* way

[02:58:35] dgw of note, the implementations I'm talking about function without the client requesting CHATHISTORY and regardless of whether it supports the batch cap

[02:58:41] dgw o/ sushi-chan

[02:59:17] dgw so those IRCds intentionally changed behavior for legacy clients and there's no way to opt out back to the previous standard behavior

[02:59:22] dgw I take issue with that

[02:59:25] dgw strongly

[02:59:52] dgw it might be acceptable if the umode was available unless server admins specifically disabled it, but it's off by default -__-

[03:00:50] dgw last looked at this a year or two ago

[03:01:01] dgw but I don't remember a ton of config

[03:01:08] dgw likely has changed since

[03:03:14] dgw gj foxy

[03:03:26] dgw oh no

[03:03:36] dgw "major rehubbing" on Libera in an hour

[03:03:43] dgw netsplit city here we come

[03:04:00] dgw weekend's the time for server maintenance I guess

[03:04:09] dgw Valve's weird always doing it on Tuesdays

[03:04:18] dgw netsplit.de says yes lol

[03:07:12] dgw it still collapsed after the Leenode takeover as if it was one server owned by Freenode LLC, so

[03:09:48] dgw Freenode's servers were controlled by a number of different legal entities

[03:09:52] dgw it still fell apart

[03:09:57] dgw that's my point

[03:10:03] dgw !bang

[03:10:32] dgw and the services data, which was summarily deleted

[03:10:39] dgw not transferred to the new network

[03:10:41] dgw it did

[03:10:54] dgw now you're reaching my point :)

[03:11:03] dgw because there can be only one Services

[03:11:17] dgw he who controls the Services, controls The Network

[03:11:37] dgw load-sharing is great and all, but it can't bail us out of that hole

[03:11:47] dgw https://github.com/unrealircd/unrealircd/blob/c43753cd4b36ed2662b0df2b2f91887a25b3283e/src/api-history-backend.c#L224-L229 I hate this

[03:11:53] dgw search result on current master

[03:12:10] dgw "you asked for server-time? great! here's history replay any time a channel has it turned on!"

[03:12:46] dgw wrong way to do it

[03:14:01] dgw insp is a bit saner because it aborts for bot-mode users https://github.com/inspircd/inspircd/blob/42b6633c870b8da84bc82061929b0a73741549fc/src/modules/m_chanhistory.cpp#L268-L269

[03:14:59] dgw but they both default to sending history to clients without a request for it

[03:15:12] dgw insp also has a nohistorymode, not a wantshistorymode

[03:15:35] dgw lol

[03:15:46] dgw ergo dev is very active in ircv3 tbf

[03:16:34] dgw good thing in my book ^

[03:17:25] dgw anyway, this has been my very chaotic TED Talk about how IRCds get nonstandard chat history wrong

[03:17:30] dgw thanks for coming, everyone :P

[03:17:59] dgw sasuga Peorth

[03:18:11] dgw $slap Zack

[03:18:48] dgw lol pls, mogad0n, the norm is to leave projects half-finished when you get a more exciting idea and start a new thing

[03:19:07] dgw (I try very hard to avoid doing that fwiw)

[03:26:22] dgw heh, ☑️ last commit 7 months ago; ☑️ still says WIP

[03:26:29] dgw you did indeed follow the norm, good job

[03:27:45] dgw 👎

[03:27:51] dgw can I mail you the bottle that's in my pantry

[03:28:28] dgw I saw that image going around and thought it was a photoshop

[03:28:29] dgw smh

[03:39:36] dgw if you can't talk in #computertech about IRC stuff, where can you? :P

[03:39:42] dgw I can keep half an eye on PMs, sure

[03:39:48] dgw (started a show)

[03:40:02] dgw o

[03:40:10] dgw I'll look after this thing's done

[03:52:23] dgw > `autoreplay-on-join` as a server default is sort of deprecated

[03:52:24] dgw GOOD

[03:53:18] dgw much saner than insp/unreal

[03:53:24] dgw as expected from ergo, ngl

[04:24:06] dgw !bang

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[04:24:12] dgw !reload

[04:24:14] dgw !shop 2

[04:31:22] dgw >Peorth alive

[04:35:14] dgw you have to wait for a duck

[04:35:16] dgw yes

[04:35:34] dgw go go mogad0n

[04:35:53] dgw foxy !

[04:36:01] dgw oof

[04:36:03] dgw 3

[04:36:17] dgw mogad0n

[04:36:19] dgw go go

[04:36:44] dgw kek

[04:37:02] dgw !bang

[04:37:06] dgw !bang

[04:37:09] dgw smdh

[04:38:04] dgw someone shoot the damn duck pls

[04:38:08] dgw fuck a duck

[04:38:11] dgw rip

[04:38:28] dgw !duckstats

[04:38:44] dgw thought it should be restored when the next duck shows up

[04:38:47] dgw or leaves

[04:38:57] dgw hmm

[04:39:58] dgw !dramostats

[04:40:23] dgw !1337stats

[04:40:41] dgw get rekt nub

[04:41:21] dgw $slap DuckHunt

[04:41:24] dgw that felt good

[04:42:00] dgw ahah

[04:42:31] dgw just wait until you meet a Bucket bot

[04:42:47] dgw ComputerTech knows

[04:43:24] dgw every bot in the world uses . lol

[04:43:35] dgw ,help

[04:43:40] dgw I guess that's taken too

[04:44:18] dgw +tell mogad0n unique prefixes ftw

[04:44:55] dgw hahah

[04:44:59] dgw thx komputer

[04:45:24] dgw +version

[04:47:35] dgw +

[04:47:38] dgw +

[04:47:42] dgw phew

[04:47:49] dgw + lol

[04:47:58] dgw + maybe

[04:48:00] dgw kekw

[04:49:08] dgw +bruh

[04:49:11] dgw why not

[04:55:18] dgw CLI literacy is at an all-time low these days

[04:55:21] dgw #boomermoment

[05:01:35] dgw were you paying attention when I was talking about chat history

[05:01:37] dgw lmao

[05:04:21] dgw CLI really is

[05:04:28] dgw and yet, people don't really get it

[05:13:05] dgw !bang

[05:13:08] dgw :|

[05:13:14] dgw !duckstats

[05:43:49] dgw whoof

[05:44:04] dgw Netflix flagged a show I'm watching with a "Last day to watch" date today

[05:44:17] dgw discovering I can only reasonably do 2 eps a day

[05:44:22] dgw need a week to finish

[05:45:04] dgw I'm glad the last day to watch is next month

[05:45:40] dgw (mfw there's a user named pancakes in here)

[05:48:09] dgw !bang

[05:48:11] dgw !bang

[05:48:14] dgw !duckstats

[05:48:16] dgw !reload

[05:48:18] dgw !shop 2

[05:49:00] dgw you will

[05:54:22] dgw think the code had mostly French comments, if it's the duckhunt I think it is

[05:55:29] dgw $slap DuckHunt

[05:55:32] dgw c0ded

[05:55:36] dgw feels good

[05:56:42] dgw or for shooting when there's no duck

[05:56:53] dgw or when it randomly decided "you hit someone else lol"

[05:57:18] dgw $8b does mogad0n taste spicy?

[05:57:21] dgw lel

[05:59:57] dgw don't suck shit, I can't recommend it

[06:05:06] dgw !bang

[06:05:13] dgw fff

[06:05:19] dgw tf does chewing gum do

[06:33:05] dgw !bang

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[06:33:14] dgw shit gun

[06:33:16] dgw is shit

[22:07:42] dgw !bang

[23:23:16] dgw > Peorth still shooting ducks

[23:23:21] dgw bruh, you're already #1

[23:38:10] dgw !shop 1000000

[23:38:20] dgw > ignores invalid IDs

[23:38:21] dgw lol

[23:57:04] dgw !bang

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[23:57:08] dgw !reload

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