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Monday, May 8, 2023
[00:00:46] tr [T] <login> You can hear about the pig stuff here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Tpiuci2ghM
[00:00:46] Internets :: YouTube North Korean Soldier meet U.S. Soldier For The First Time :: (17:05) :: Views 1,361,783 :: Rating [+] 48,652 likes [+] 48,652 likes [-] 0 dislikes [-] 0 dislikes ::
[00:00:46] Mikoolo Buy a cheap small low energy monitor that you can ducttape to the server.
[00:01:05] tr [T] <login> Do they sell small monitors anymore?
[00:01:11] tr [T] <login> like the old squarish ones
[00:01:29] tr [T] <login> You could stream to your phone too, with the right software
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[00:02:17] \g lol
[00:02:18] \g team iphone
[00:02:21] \g such a shitty phone
[00:02:30] \g #android4eva
[00:03:00] ComputerTech android based
[00:03:01] DuckHunt -.,¸¸.-·°'`'°·-.,¸¸.-·°'`'°· \_O< QUACK
[00:03:05] million !bang
[00:03:05] DuckHunt million > *BANG* You shot down the duck in 4.381s, which makes you a total of 342 ducks on #computertech. \_X< *KWAK* [14 xp] [four-leaf clover]
[00:03:10] ComputerTech ohai million
[00:03:10] million !shop 1
[00:03:11] \g I have plenty of monitors
[00:03:11] DuckHunt million > You just added an extra bullet in your gun in exchange for 7 xp points.
[00:03:12] ComputerTech :p
[00:03:18] \g But plugging it in is a pain
[00:03:26] \g Need to plug in a keyboard too
[00:03:39] \g Can't wait to decom this thing or get a proper KVM
[00:03:44] \g But those things are expensive as fuck
[00:03:46] \g Like $800
[00:03:56] ComputerTech fixed up my readme a lil
[00:03:58] ComputerTech owo
[00:04:01] Mikoolo usb-c monitor with touchscreen, \g. Use virtual keyboard.
[00:04:02] tr [T] <login> Here's the pig timestamp: https://youtu.be/4Tpiuci2ghM?t=646
[00:04:02] Internets :: YouTube North Korean Soldier meet U.S. Soldier For The First Time :: (17:05) :: Views 1,361,783 :: Rating [+] 48,652 likes [+] 48,652 likes [-] 0 dislikes [-] 0 dislikes ::
[00:04:15] \g -_-
[00:04:26] ComputerTech lol
[00:04:28] \g Mikoolo: Gross
[00:04:44] tr [T] <login> ComputerTech: what's your timeframe for starting your software sole trading business?
[00:04:58] * Rizon set mode +h Zack
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[00:04:58] ComputerTech login wdym
[00:05:06] ski trading in soles ?
[00:05:30] tr [T] <login> sole trading = trading as a sole proprietor
[00:05:38] ComputerTech idk
[00:05:39] * ComputerTech pets ski
[00:06:00] tr [T] <login> At some point you'll have to be earning your own money from clients outside the family company - or no?
[00:06:00] * LimitServ set mode +l 225
[00:06:09] * Rizon set mode +o Compy
[00:06:11] ComputerTech sure i guess
[00:06:32] tr [T] <login> Don't go degen gambling ;)
[00:06:33] * ski frets and bets
[00:06:46] ComputerTech nah i don't like gambling
[00:06:58] MatCat gambling is gay
[00:06:59] tr [T] <login> it's negative expected value, i.e., giving money away
[00:07:05] ComputerTech MatCat: agreed
[00:07:18] tr [T] <login> what about microtransactions on games?
[00:07:32] ski ugh
[00:07:39] tr [T] <login> fortnite gets $1B in revenue per year in skins, doesn't it?
[00:07:48] MatCat disgusting
[00:08:07] tr [T] <login> and all the mobile games: forza, candy crush, etc. look like gambling games on the inside
[00:08:16] ComputerTech login damn thats a lot
[00:08:34] ski well, i don't really like betting at all, even if there's nothing particular of value at stake
[00:08:36] tr [T] <login> it's internet gambling - there is a lot of money in it
[00:08:41] tr [T] <login> and there is no regulation of it
[00:08:56] tr [T] <login> then there's actual internet gambling - mobile browser slots - legal in the UK
[00:09:07] MatCat microtransactions aren't gambling because there is no return on it, its just paying for a service
[00:09:19] MatCat why its not regulated
[00:09:25] MatCat actual gambling is very regulated
[00:09:26] Kuro-chan paying for nothing, basically
[00:09:34] tr [T] <login> Well, goes on to show that psychology is divorced from the reality of getting money out of it
[00:09:48] tr [T] <login> In games with coins, one can always lose to a chosen opponent on purpose to 'transfer'
[00:10:00] DuckHunt -.,¸¸.-·°'`'°·-.,¸¸.-·°'`'°· \_O< QUACK
[00:10:02] MatCat yes but you can't get cash back out of it
[00:10:02] tr [T] <login> !bang
[00:10:02] million !bang
[00:10:02] DuckHunt million > *BANG* You shot down the duck in 2.35s, which makes you a total of 343 ducks on #computertech. \_X< *KWAK* [14 xp] [four-leaf clover]
[00:10:02] DuckHunt login > *CLICK* EMPTY MAGAZINE | Ammo: 0/4 | Chargers: 3/3
[00:10:06] MatCat so its not gambling
[00:10:06] tr [T] <login> !reload
[00:10:06] DuckHunt login > *CLACK CLACK* You reload. | Ammo: 4/4 | Chargers: 2/3
[00:10:07] million !shop 1
[00:10:08] tr [T] <login> !bang
[00:10:08] DuckHunt login > Luckily you missed, but what did you aim at ? There is no duck in the area... [missed: -1 xp] [wild fire: -1 xp] [GUN CONFISCATED: wild fire]
[00:10:09] DuckHunt million > You just added an extra bullet in your gun in exchange for 7 xp points.
[00:10:12] ComputerTech nice shot
[00:10:17] tr [T] <login> Oh, I missed it
[00:10:35] tr [T] <login> I guess that's true - 100% loss rate, so there's no regulation required
[00:10:56] MatCat remember its not losing money the gov cared aobut, its when you get money, so they can tax it :P
[00:11:12] tr [T] <login> In many countries, gambling winnings are not considered taxable income
[00:11:15] tr [T] <login> no matter what size
[00:11:20] tr [T] <login> because it's not work, but a hobby
[00:11:25] MatCat that is not the case in USA
[00:12:15] tr [T] <login> yeah, winnings above a limit in the US (is it 10000 USD or 1000 USD or 5000 USD?) are taxable
[00:12:40] MatCat I dunno about gambling earnings specifically, but anything over $6000 in income of any kind must be filed
[00:12:47] MatCat total
[00:12:55] tr [T] <login> even if it's a gift?
[00:13:09] MatCat yes, there is a way to state gifted money on taxes
[00:13:25] tr [T] <login> found on the ground?
[00:13:29] MatCat it wont cause you to have to pay more, but you still need to file it
[00:14:06] tr [T] <login> i see
[00:14:11] tr [T] <login> they just want visibility i guess
[00:14:25] MatCat yes so if they audit you they know exactly how you came to where you are
[00:14:38] MatCat and of course a lot of people do abuse 'gifting' to get around taxes
[00:15:03] tr [T] <login> some countries have rules that if the scheme is primarily to gain a tax benefit, it's illegal
[00:15:22] MatCat yeah its illegal in the USA to falsely claim the purpose of income
[00:15:31] tr [T] <login> purpose of income?
[00:15:58] MatCat yes, I.E. to claim money is a gift when its really for selling goods or services for profit, would be illegal, the purpose of that income would be gains
[00:16:19] tr [T] <login> So if they audit me and then find out I got >$6000 but didn't file it - they will charge penalties on it?
[00:16:23] tr [T] <login> even though no tax was owed on it?
[00:17:03] MatCat a more interesting example, would be selling guns, you can sell a gun privately to someone, BUT if you are doing it for profit gain, you need to be al icensed dealer, if its just as you as a person selling it to get rid of it, then its legal without dealer license
[00:17:27] tr [T] <login> so it can't be a business
[00:17:34] MatCat login: in that case you would get the standard fine for improper filing, which is its own thing
[00:17:39] MatCat exactly
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[00:17:51] tr [T] <login> that is a fuzzy standard though
[00:18:00] MatCat well US law is based on intent
[00:18:05] tr [T] <login> if you like switching guns like switching phones every 2 years
[00:18:08] MatCat you don't prove the crime, you prove the intent
[00:18:34] MatCat did he intend to sell the gun for profit? then license needed
[00:18:44] tr [T] <login> I guess it would depend on volume too
[00:18:53] MatCat selling a gun just to change models every few years would be fine, because the intent isn't profit
[00:19:01] tr [T] <login> Even if a profit was made on each
[00:19:06] MatCat correct
[00:19:16] tr [T] <login> Switching every month, or switching 20 guns every year - more dicy
[00:19:28] MatCat yes if you start getting high volume it gets attention
[00:19:41] tr [T] <login> What if you are a high-volume collector?
[00:19:42] MatCat and becomes much harder to prove your intent is not profit motivated
[00:20:33] tr [T] <login> No wonder IRS officers have to specialise
[00:20:46] MatCat in my opinion the IRS is unconstitutional
[00:20:48] MatCat and should be abolished
[00:20:59] End3r Agreed
[00:21:01] MatCat income tax is a very recent idea in the USA
[00:21:02] End3r 100%
[00:21:04] tr [T] <login> The courts interpreted the constitution creatively to make it real though
[00:21:10] tr [T] <login> It was supposed to go away after WW2, but stuck around
[00:21:13] tr [T] <login> and in other countries too
[00:21:14] MatCat yep
[00:21:26] End3r We also need to go back to the gold standard.
[00:21:26] MatCat income tax is theft in my view
[00:21:35] MatCat I would love to go back to cold standard
[00:21:41] tr [T] <login> I think it will happen
[00:21:49] tr [T] <login> but as an alternative to the dollar
[00:21:50] MatCat very dangerous to allow fiat money to be based on a government set standard, as we can see today
[00:21:52] tr [T] <login> in foreign countries
[00:22:06] End3r Nah, Brandon is hell bent on giving everything away and going globalist.
[00:22:08] tr [T] <login> China currently fixes the yuan everyday with respect to a hidden basket of currencies
[00:22:18] tr [T] <login> it may start increasing the share of gold in its hidden basket
[00:22:40] tr [T] <login> Globalism isn't bad though
[00:22:44] MatCat Brandon needs to choke on his ice cream and little girls hair
[00:23:02] End3r xD
[00:23:33] tr [T] <login> They could have mandated a fixed quantity increase per year
[00:23:42] tr [T] <login> instead of controlling the price of money
[00:24:00] MatCat the current administration is hell bent on trying to make the new dollar a cryptocurrency, horrible horrible idea
[00:24:10] tr [T] <login> It won't be crypto
[00:24:13] MatCat they want to be able to track every single penny
[00:24:15] tr [T] <login> It'll be a fed account
[00:24:27] tr [T] <login> I think they won't need to make a CBDC
[00:24:35] tr [T] <login> FedNow will be an 'indirect' cbdc anyway
[00:25:01] MatCat I hope any attempt to do so will be met with fierce resistence and non-complience
[00:25:03] tr [T] <login> if it follows the same implementation as the one in other countries, each bank implementing the system will have a daily limit
[00:25:16] End3r We have already banned it in Florida.
[00:25:18] tr [T] <login> It's not that bad, it's just like normal banking (and the associated 'tracking')
[00:25:56] tr [T] <login> If the bank is forced to hold a certain amount of money at the Federal Reserve per bank account, is that a CBDC?
[00:25:58] End3r well, not only tracking, but if they control it, they can turn off your funds anytime they want
[00:26:14] tr [T] <login> that amount of money in your bank account is directly backed by the federal reserve balance of that bank
[00:26:19] End3r We already know the the govt hates it's people
[00:26:21] tr [T] <login> it's not segregated, so not trackable by the government
[00:26:24] irish666 Hello I’m back
[00:26:37] tr [T] <login> I thought the gov and the people had the same objective: and taxes were the link
[00:26:49] tr [T] <login> If the gov hated its people, it would collect lesser in taxes
[00:27:01] End3r LOL
[00:27:06] tr [T] <login> The gov can already turn your bank account off, well, indirectly
[00:27:13] End3r it takes more so it can do whatever it wants. people be damned
[00:27:21] tr [T] <login> through rules around suspicious transactions
[00:27:41] tr [T] <login> if you run a marijuana business, your bank account will get frozen and you will get debanked from banks that don't want to take the compliance risk
[00:27:53] End3r I honestly don't know how there has not been another bloody civil war yet.
[00:27:55] irish666 They work the population like we are at war constantly, the only war We really have is that the population is growing too fast
[00:27:56] tr [T] <login> same with crypto - they don't know if you're making money by issuing a scam coin etc.
[00:28:30] End3r If any of you remember anything out of this conversation, remember this
[00:28:30] tr [T] <login> End3r: it's because of social welfare
[00:28:37] tr [T] <login> take the welfare away, and you'll have civil war
[00:28:39] End3r Epstein didn't kill himself.
[00:28:46] tr [T] <login> No, he didn't
[00:28:53] tr [T] <login> his death was under suspicious circumstances
[00:28:56] tr [T] <login> broken cameras etc.
[00:29:03] End3r Horse shit
[00:29:07] End3r He was clintoned
[00:29:10] tr [T] <login> He had some deep information
[00:29:26] tr [T] <login> If he was smart, he would have had a dead man's trigger going
[00:29:48] End3r I am still waiting on something to happen to that client list
[00:29:49] tr [T] <login> some computer that scans the newswire for his death
[00:29:51] irish666 Probably somewhere else
[00:30:04] tr [T] <login> The NSA probably has it
[00:30:13] End3r If anything were to happen 80+% of the govt and hollywood would be shot or hung
[00:30:23] * ComputerTech shoots End3r
[00:30:25] ComputerTech owo
[00:30:30] tr [T] <login> irish666: the population growth is from immigration though
[00:30:32] irish666 Also paintings taken down
[00:30:59] irish666 Login doesn’t really matter where it’s from
[00:31:01] tr [T] <login> They would call it disinformation
[00:31:03] irish666 Chinas isn’t from
[00:31:09] tr [T] <login> China's isn't growing anymore
[00:31:18] irish666 Immigration and theirs is still was an issue
[00:31:18] End3r The USA as it stands is the closest thing to NAZI Germany since the war.
[00:31:21] tr [T] <login> it's only Africa and Pakistan
[00:31:26] End3r It's fucking sad
[00:31:29] tr [T] <login> India's is also at replacement level
[00:31:53] tr [T] <login> They haven't gone full nazi yet, but yes, it is getting there
[00:32:00] tr [T] <login> national socialism under the guise of capitalism
[00:32:11] tr [T] <login> On the other hand, China has a lot of capitalism
[00:32:29] End3r This is making me sad, time to roll up a joint.
[00:32:34] tr [T] <login> It's not that bad
[00:32:35] * ComputerTech gibz End3r a beer
[00:32:39] tr [T] <login> The US still has the big guns
[00:32:46] tr [T] <login> And immigration is the US's strength
[00:32:55] irish666 What causes American fascism to rise? 9/11?
[00:33:03] tr [T] <login> military adventurism
[00:33:08] * MatCat slips into the kitchen to cook some weeniers
[00:33:12] End3r 911 was an inside job
[00:33:21] ComputerTech End3r: 100%
[00:33:21] End3r I will believe that until I die.
[00:33:21] tr [T] <login> They still haven't explained why it happened
[00:33:33] superkuh Yeah. I guess it was or at least coincided in time with 9/11.
[00:33:33] End3r what about wtc7?
[00:33:33] tr [T] <login> you give too much credit to gov though
[00:34:00] irish666 Just surprised a lot of states cares that 3000 New Yorkers died
[00:34:08] irish666 Cared*
[00:34:15] tr [T] <login> How did they die?
[00:34:18] tr [T] <login> 9/11 right?
[00:34:28] irish666 Wasn’t that the initial
[00:34:34] irish666 First deaths?
[00:34:43] tr [T] <login> Al Qaeda's goal was to be make a flashy demonstration of what the US does abroad
[00:34:52] tr [T] <login> they had plans to target nuclear missile silos
[00:35:07] tr [T] <login> even Osama bin Laden thought that would be too controversial
[00:35:49] tr [T] <login> It was a result of funding Mujahideens in Afghanistan to drive the soviet union away
[00:36:00] tr [T] <login> Hillary Clinton said that
[00:36:04] ComputerTech sur <3
[00:36:13] sur jas hallo
[00:36:13] sur <3
[00:36:17] ComputerTech sup
[00:36:21] End3r alrighty, joint is rolled. Going outside to smoke. If anyone needs me, ping me on text or discord. I stopped using irc on my phone.
[00:36:31] irish666 Fahrenheit 9:11 said George bush had a document that was titled “Osama bin laden plans to attack america by flying airliners into buildings” months prior
[00:36:32] sur smonk wheat everyday
[00:36:33] tr [T] <login> ^ that's a good decision
[00:36:40] ComputerTech End3r: kk bb
[00:36:41] tr [T] <login> stopping to use irc on your phone
[00:36:53] irish666 I also heard
[00:37:06] irish666 They found him quite easily a while back and didn’t act on it
[00:37:10] tr [T] <login> oh, maybe they knew but didn't find the operational details of it
[00:37:14] superkuh I think all things eventually fall back to the pressure that fractional reserve banking limiting the creation of new M0 circulating money supply to just some few thousand corporations per country. But that doesn't explain the USA's slide to the authoritarianism. Then again, has the USA slid alone? The world stage is full of such slippery feats.
[00:37:17] irish666 Some afghan Saudi falcon exchange
[00:37:19] tr [T] <login> that is why now they act pre-emptively
[00:37:30] tr [T] <login> killed ISIS's current and future leader's sons
[00:37:50] tr [T] <login> if the money is zero-sum, then capitalism dies
[00:38:06] tr [T] <login> Capitalism is supposed to be non-zero-sum, and thus so must the money
[00:38:31] superkuh Gonna need some old style debt forgiveness jubilee then.
[00:38:38] tr [T] <login> yes, correct ^
[00:38:46] tr [T] <login> People have forgotten why there were debt jubilees
[00:39:01] tr [T] <login> I think money supply modulates on population growth
[00:39:20] tr [T] <login> higher population = more units of food need to produced
[00:40:01] tr [T] <login> and the role of making sure the price of food goes up over time, is to impart 'theta' on money
[00:40:07] irish666 We have debt jubilee campaign groups quite often asking
[00:40:09] tr [T] <login> i.e., money should melt over time
[00:40:29] tr [T] <login> because development now is worth more than development in the future
[00:41:12] tr [T] <login> fractional reserve banking is just a mechanism, and the reserve ratio in the US is 0% now
[00:41:33] tr [T] <login> so the fraction is not even required to be any constant like 10% or whatever
[00:41:54] irish666 I actually need to lend money out soon
[00:42:02] tr [T] <login> Why not give it to the government?
[00:42:15] tr [T] <login> it's "risk free"
[00:42:26] tr [T] <login> especially if it's short term and they don't close the gates
[00:42:48] irish666 It’s a friend but it’s medium risk
[00:42:59] tr [T] <login> How will you collect? will there be a contract?
[00:43:03] irish666 No real gain and I’m feeling meh about it
[00:43:11] irish666 Definitely
[00:43:26] tr [T] <login> So what you'll be doing is giving them the bank's IOUs
[00:43:30] tr [T] <login> and accepting their IOU in exchange
[00:43:34] tr [T] <login> usually, a bank does that
[00:43:35] irish666 Well maybe
[00:43:50] tr [T] <login> Have you checked their credit score and gotten a copy of their bank statements?
[00:43:56] tr [T] <login> i.e., what a bank would do before issuing a loan
[00:44:25] Dr_DICK Lend me money I can guarantee you a 100% loss on your investment
[00:44:30] tr [T] <login> Plus, you cannot report anything to the credit bureaus
[00:44:41] tr [T] <login> Also, what's the repayment schedule and interest rate
[00:44:48] tr [T] <login> What are they planning to do with the money?
[00:44:54] Dr_DICK Hookers and blow
[00:44:59] tr [T] <login> Dr_DICK: what will you spend it on?
[00:45:05] Dr_DICK Hookers and blow
[00:45:10] Dr_DICK Minus the hookers and blow
[00:45:14] irish666 I’ve lent out money before of course but this time
[00:45:22] irish666 It’ll be a longer payback time
[00:45:27] tr [T] <login> So being a pimp and drug dealer, Dr_DICK?
[00:45:29] irish666 And less interest
[00:45:37] tr [T] <login> less than the bank's deposit rate?
[00:45:40] Dr_DICK As is tradition
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[00:45:54] tr [T] <login> if so, that person would do well to just deposit it in the bank and pay you your interest
[00:46:01] tr [T] <login> it's risk free money to your friend
[00:46:23] tr [T] <login> You won't open a banana stand or work at an auto mechanic?
[00:46:24] irish666 It’s also for medical nonsense
[00:46:31] tr [T] <login> Is it for an MLM?
[00:46:45] * LimitServ set mode +l 223
[00:46:45] tr [T] <login> is it herbal?
[00:46:52] tr [T] <login> chinese medicine? ginseng?
[00:47:05] irish666 Nah it’s oral surgery
[00:47:05] tr [T] <login> Is it profitable? or is it just income smoothing?
[00:47:19] tr [T] <login> I see, so it's an advance on their future pay basically
[00:47:28] tr [T] <login> i.e., credit card interest rate
[00:48:25] irish666 They’re quite close so I was tempted with just something enough to combat inflation so 1-5%
[00:48:33] tr [T] <login> I guess if you love your friend, you'll give them the money
[00:48:47] irish666 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[00:48:49] tr [T] <login> So you're going to give them a nominal interest rate instead of indexing to inflation?
[00:49:08] irish666 That would make more sense
[00:49:22] tr [T] <login> either charge them no interest, or charge the deposit rate on your current bank account
[00:49:31] irish666 Okay
[00:49:32] tr [T] <login> And don't expect to get any money back
[00:49:36] irish666 Nope
[00:49:39] irish666 Never do
[00:50:01] tr [T] <login> Do people do this kind of thing in America?
[00:50:03] irish666 But the surgery don’t major enough to effect employment so we should be good
[00:50:13] tr [T] <login> Anything can affect employment
[00:50:21] tr [T] <login> since you have no inside look into the company's financial health
[00:50:45] tr [T] <login> And unemployment insurance is not a thing in the uk, is it?
[00:51:11] irish666 I think there is the dole
[00:51:16] tr [T] <login> As they pay it back, it will hurt their future income
[00:51:34] MatCat I have returned from the kitchen with hot weeniers
[00:51:40] tr [T] <login> They will feel resetment at losing that cut of their future income
[00:52:00] irish666 Well the loan will be uk->USA anyway
[00:52:07] tr [T] <login> International loan?
[00:52:08] irish666 £->$
[00:52:12] irish666 Yes
[00:52:14] tr [T] <login> That's scammer level risky
[00:52:29] tr [T] <login> You'll never be able to collect unless you know some 'gangs' in the US
[00:52:46] tr [T] <login> I wish there were a way to get 'insurance' on this loan
[00:53:08] Peorth A SMALL LOAN OF A MILLION DOLLARS
[00:53:09] tr [T] <login> Will you transfer using Wise?
[00:53:29] tr [T] <login> Peorth: at least Donald Trump Sr. made enough money to leave his children a fortune
[00:53:38] tr [T] <login> He didn't spend it all on himself
[00:53:42] irish666 I could just crypto, PayPal o just use my bank
[00:53:52] tr [T] <login> Crypto would be 5%
[00:53:59] tr [T] <login> Bank might be better
[00:54:12] tr [T] <login> Best would be an international card with no foreign exchange transaction fee
[00:54:39] tr [T] <login> mastercard would give you the actual wholesale rate + 0.03% markup
[00:55:03] tr [T] <login> or your local card if it works with international transactions
[00:55:15] irish666 Thanks
[00:55:20] irish666 For the info actually
[00:55:33] tr [T] <login> Bank would be a v bad rate (2% off their own rate) + fixed fee for SWIFT transfer
[00:55:47] irish666 Ah separate
[00:55:47] tr [T] <login> PayPal would be 2.7-2.9% - they all know each others' rates
[00:56:11] irish666 I think I’ve used PayPal for this before
[00:56:40] tr [T] <login> If you have a brokerage account, you could do something if a stock is traded in the UK and the US
[00:57:52] tr [T] <login> but even there, taking the USD out into a US bank account that is not yours is impossible
[00:58:15] tr [T] <login> You could use Wise too
[00:58:17] irish666 They probably don’t have a broker
[00:58:55] tr [T] <login> You can buy a travel card, load it with USD, and mail it to them
[00:59:05] tr [T] <login> if it's registered mail, nobody will open it
[01:00:12] tr [T] <login> Prepaid USD gift card bought online and delivered to a US address might also be possible
[01:00:26] tr [T] <login> ^ use case is gift to family in the US on their birthday ;)
[01:02:39] irish666 True actually
[01:02:42] irish666 Thanks
[01:02:46] irish666 Also brb
[01:03:15] irish666 .yt Don’t need money, don’t need fame. Don’t need no credit card to ride this train
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[01:03:26] ComputerTech based song
[01:03:31] tr [T] <login> you should be a radio jockey
[01:03:43] ComputerTech i was playing it less than 5 minutes ago irish666 lol
[01:04:02] irish666 Lol
[01:04:05] irish666 Nice!
[01:04:16] ComputerTech :D
[01:04:43] * Rizon set mode +h Zack
[01:04:43] Rizon [Zack] YOU SPOONY BARD!!!
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[01:05:37] * Rizon set mode +h aloo_shu
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[01:09:37] tr [T] <login> ComputerTech: will you be doing an MBA?
[01:09:50] tr [T] <login> since administering a business is an important skill
[01:09:52] ComputerTech maybe
[01:10:17] tr [T] <login> but first you'd have to do a bachelor's degree right?
[01:10:22] tr [T] <login> will that be in civil engineering
[01:10:24] ComputerTech probably
[01:10:43] tr [T] <login> or chemical engineering?
[01:10:58] tr [T] <login> or a liberal arts degree
[01:11:10] tr [T] <login> for enlightenment
[01:11:18] tr [T] <login> Or you could go into the trades proper
[01:11:29] tr [T] <login> get a technical degree
[01:11:40] tr [T] <login> or whatever the system for the trades is in the UK
[01:12:04] tr [T] <login> Or would you prefer working in the office doing accounting?
[01:12:22] tr [T] <login> You could also do something difficult like accounting (especially if you want to get chartered)
[01:12:45] tr [T] <login> or, you could become an actuary - which is actually really hard - lots of very fast math, statistics and rules of thumb involved
[01:13:04] tr [T] <login> Or just work as a sysadmin
[01:13:26] tr [T] <login> Do you think diversification is important, or concentrating on taking over?
[01:14:20] tr [T] <login> Or, if you want to get a feel for how other employers are, you could apply as if you were not employed
[01:14:20] Peorth >colby working as a sysadmin
[01:14:22] Peorth scared.
[01:14:27] ComputerTech :|
[01:14:28] ComputerTech Peorth: pls
[01:14:44] tr [T] <login> You might get a feel for the market just by applying and interviewing (without any intention of taking a job)
[01:15:05] tr [T] <login> Looking at job advertisements and requirements and working backwards from there
[01:15:34] tr [T] <login> It might be good for your self-development, to venture a bit further away from the nest temporarily, so to speak
[01:15:58] tr [T] <login> e.g., in academia, there is a strong culture not to do all your degrees from the same institution (academic incest, they call it)
[01:16:25] tr [T] <login> Similarly for your working life and skills, might be very useful or eye-opening to see how it is out there
[01:16:45] DuckHunt -.,¸¸.-·°'`'°·-.,¸¸.-·°'`'°· \_O< QUACK
[01:16:47] Peorth !bang
[01:16:47] DuckHunt Peorth > *BOOM* You shot down the golden duck in 1.26s, which makes you a total of 264 ducks (including 111 golden ducks) on #computertech. \_X< *KWAK* [37 xp] [four-leaf clover] [expl. ammo]
[01:16:47] tr [T] <login> Prove yourself by getting an offer (that you won't be accepting)
[01:16:49] Peorth !shop 1
[01:16:49] DuckHunt Peorth > You just added an extra bullet in your gun in exchange for 7 xp points.
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[01:17:04] Peorth !topduck
[01:17:04] DuckHunt The top duck(s) are: magic with 5272 xp | peorth with 4199 xp | million with 3150 xp | phoenix with 922 xp | computertech with 755 xp
[01:17:13] tr [T] <login> It may give you better direction on where things are going
[01:17:42] tr [T] <login> You know, other employers are very demanding and pay is very low in the UK
[01:17:56] * LimitServ set mode +l 225
[01:18:05] tr [T] <login> They need to make more money out of you than they pay you, with a comfortable margin of safety
[01:18:32] ComputerTech Peorth: gogogo, shoot da ducks
[01:18:32] ComputerTech :>
[01:18:35] ComputerTech (´・ω・`)
[01:20:13] tr [T] <login> lol ignored
[01:20:37] tr [T] <login> You can do HFT in crypto then
[01:20:46] MatCat I am full on weeniers now
[01:21:03] tr [T] <login> How do you feel now?
[01:21:10] tr [T] <login> The world will go on, won't it?
[01:21:39] Peorth .+quote <%MatCat> I am full on weeniers now
[01:21:45] Peorth .addquote <%MatCat> I am full on weeniers now
[01:21:51] Peorth .quote add <%MatCat> I am full on weeniers now
[01:21:51] Quotes [Quote] Added quote #426 by Peorth
[01:21:51] Quotes [Quote] <%MatCat> I am full on weeniers now
[01:21:59] Peorth too many fuckin' quote bots I deal with
[01:22:04] MatCat lol
[01:23:40] foxy fail
[01:24:26] tr [T] <login> i think computertech should go back to poland and pay some superprogrammer in poland to teach him the ropes
[01:24:34] tr [T] <login> he'll come back a changed man
[01:25:12] MatCat lol I read ropes as rapes 3 times in a row before I realized it was ropes
[01:26:03] tr [T] <login> maybe ComputerTech should skip all that and go straight to philanthropy
[01:26:11] tr [T] <login> debut some paintings
[01:26:32] foxy i'm sure he has plenty of sheep paintings
[01:26:42] tr [T] <login> or maybe go through bitcoin's code and submit some pull requests that get accepted
[01:26:48] MatCat there seems to be a lot of emphasis on sheep in here
[01:27:02] tr [T] <login> He can create a sheep genitals nft
[01:27:09] tr [T] <login> might make a lot of money from it
[01:27:48] MatCat are sheep genitals that big of a thing?
[01:27:57] tr [T] <login> no, which is why it'll be a good nft
[01:28:32] phonekait MatCat: mostly for ComputerTech
[01:28:40] tr [T] <login> tbh, best case for ComputerTech is getting into cryptography and Ethereum
[01:29:00] tr [T] <login> and becoming a good enough programmer to get pull requests accepted into one of the ethereum implementations
[01:29:02] foxy s/mostly/only/
[01:29:19] MatCat human genitals are the only good genitals
[01:29:30] tr [T] <login> those are already nfts
[01:29:43] phonekait Apart from sheep, ComputerTech doesn't get to see or touch any other kinds of genitals except his own.
[01:29:58] MatCat sounds very british
[01:30:07] tr [T] <login> i was on a twitter spaces recently, and the other crypto degen i heard there said his dad had a property portfolio in malta
[01:30:26] tr [T] <login> and he, the son, 30 years old, bought lost of nfts and got rug pulled
[01:30:33] tr [T] <login> *bought lots
[01:30:48] tr [T] <login> but made money early on eth too, and then bought 'rugs'
[01:31:08] tr [T] <login> Is that gambling or investing?
[01:31:35] phonekait Gambling.
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[01:32:14] tr [T] <login> what if you never sell and just like making your mark on the blockchain?
[01:34:07] tr [T] <login> here's an idea: selling nfts of sheep and actually holding real sheep in custody for the nft owneres
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[01:34:55] tr [T] <login> you can take delivery of your sheep's milk or wool, or the income from it
[01:35:23] tr [T] <login> would you buy it if you trusted the issuer (let's say, associated with netherlands' sheep farmers)
[01:36:00] tr [T] <login> each such nft is an actual photo of the sheep
[01:36:16] tr [T] <login> I think it's a winning idea: nobody's done it before
[01:38:00] DuckHunt -.,¸¸.-·°'`'°·-.,¸¸.-·°'`'°· \_O< QUACK
[01:38:05] tr [T] <login> !bang
[01:38:06] DuckHunt login > *BANG* You shot down the duck in 4.99s, which makes you a total of 22 ducks on #computertech. \_X< *KWAK* [10 xp]
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[01:46:03] tr [T] <login> dsrt^: how are you?
[01:46:35] tr [T] <login> dsrt^: Welcome to #computertech
[01:48:40] Ahsoka Welcome to #ComputerTech home of the Ugly Whopper
[01:50:33] MatCat I will take 2 ass burgers please
[01:51:00] DuckHunt -.,¸¸.-·°'`'°·-.,¸¸.-·°'`'°· \_O< QUACK
[01:51:39] Peorth !bang
[01:51:39] DuckHunt Peorth > By searching the bushes around the duck, you find a sight for your gun ! The accuracy of your next shot will be increased by (100 - current accuracy) / 3.
[01:51:39] DuckHunt Peorth > *BOOM* You shot down the duck in 38.86s, which makes you a total of 265 ducks on #computertech. \_X< *KWAK* [11 xp] [four-leaf clover]
[01:51:41] Peorth !shop 1
[01:51:42] DuckHunt Peorth > You just added an extra bullet in your gun in exchange for 7 xp points.
[01:54:21] * End3r stabs Peorth in the mangina.
[01:56:56] tr [T] <~therock247uk> o/
[02:01:00] tr [T] <&Audi> sup bitches
[02:01:05] tr [T] <&Audi> what we doin
[02:02:31] MatCat we doing hoes and coke
[02:10:15] ComputerTech Audi <3
[02:10:41] vamp BMW <3
[02:10:46] vamp ComputerTech, heeeeey
[02:10:58] vamp :D
[02:11:00] DuckHunt -.,¸¸.-·°'`'°·-.,¸¸.-·°'`'°· \_O< QUACK
[02:11:02] ComputerTech heya vamp!
[02:11:03] vamp !bang
[02:11:03] DuckHunt *BANG* xO' The_Blode just get shot by accident by vamp. [missed: -1 xp] [accident: -4 xp] [GUN CONFISCATED: hunting accident]
[02:11:04] ComputerTech how're ya
[02:11:11] vamp !bang
[02:11:11] DuckHunt vamp > You are not armed.
[02:11:14] vamp !reload
[02:11:14] DuckHunt vamp > You are not armed.
[02:11:17] vamp nooooooooooooooooo
[02:11:26] vamp just hungwy
[02:11:32] vamp what about you :D
[02:11:50] ComputerTech chilling, watching YouTube
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