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Sunday, May 14, 2023
[00:21:56] MatCat Syndus if you can't afford more then beans how can you afford weed? :(
[00:28:05] MatCat I try not to be in situations requiring dialing 911
[00:37:35] MatCat how did you get hurt?
[00:38:51] MatCat oog
[00:38:51] MatCat oof
[00:51:44] MatCat word of the day: quaff
[00:54:37] MatCat boof some LSD
[00:55:11] MatCat 100 sheets would take a lot of boofing space
[01:27:29] MatCat fuck yeah I made a kick ass dinner, open faced roast beef with homeade gravy, corn on the cob, and mashed taters
[01:28:19] MatCat I dont understand people that buy powdered gravy or even canned gravy, its so easy and 10000x tastier to make yourself
[01:28:48] MatCat Syndus hunter thompson is one of my heros
[01:46:07] MatCat I am stuffed, what a delicious wonderful dinner
[01:46:20] MatCat !topcuck
[01:46:49] MatCat lol
[03:40:27] MatCat I went and got alcohol, I am turning into an alcoholic
[03:42:34] MatCat login: nah, normally I would drink like 2-4 times a year, I am now dranking 3 of the last 4 days lol
[03:43:10] MatCat my normal benadryl and melatonin mix isn't knocking me out, I think I am using alcohol now
[03:44:42] MatCat Syndus: I think I am going to talk to my dr about a sleep aid
[03:44:48] MatCat my dick grew an inch
[03:45:28] MatCat Syndus: lol that is an anti-psychotic
[03:45:40] MatCat not a sleep aid
[03:46:02] MatCat anti-psychotics are bad mmkay
[03:46:11] MatCat turn you into a vegitible
[03:46:20] MatCat may be good for crazy people
[04:02:05] MatCat make hookers great again
[04:03:44] MatCat prostitution should be legal
[04:06:28] MatCat its only legal in 1 state
[04:06:40] MatCat the government has no place to dictate relationships
[04:07:56] MatCat login: ironicly prostitution ISN'T legal in vegas
[04:08:34] MatCat juano: how much meth are you smoking?
[04:08:48] MatCat I dont believe you
[04:10:43] MatCat a show isn't intercourse though
[04:11:16] MatCat easy, you dont
[04:11:18] MatCat no enforcement
[04:11:23] MatCat it shouldn't be illegal
[04:11:48] MatCat who cares abou tthem
[04:12:21] MatCat prostituion being illegal isn't a cornerstone of states
[04:12:29] MatCat infact many countries it is legal
[04:13:01] MatCat who cares if they are against it, they can choose not to hook up with a hooker
[04:13:21] MatCat they dont get to dictate the world based on their subjective morals
[04:14:29] MatCat there should be no government regulation of it at all
[04:14:45] MatCat if you are an adult you should be able to legally offer such service, or partake in such a service
[04:14:48] MatCat including advertising
[04:15:28] MatCat thats fine
[04:15:33] MatCat once they are legal, they are legal
[04:15:37] MatCat they are free to make such choices
[04:15:58] MatCat thats fine as long as its not directed to children
[04:16:11] MatCat children can't be sheltered from the world, it is hte parents job to do that
[04:16:30] MatCat doesn't matter
[04:16:59] MatCat what ifs and could bes dont matter, you don't violate peoples rights for such things
[04:17:35] MatCat I dont agree with that
[04:17:41] MatCat government has no place in it
[04:18:03] MatCat thats not really true
[04:18:09] MatCat government FORCES things underground
[04:18:15] MatCat Juaha why you spamming
[04:18:19] MatCat juano(
[04:18:21] MatCat *
[04:19:07] MatCat juano no need to spam
[04:19:50] MatCat sure they can
[04:20:02] MatCat that is the ideal outcome
[04:20:11] MatCat but parents can also control what their children see to a reasonable level
[04:20:41] MatCat I am very anti-trans, I don't care what the individual does, and they are allowed to do it, but I think its a mental issue
[04:21:01] MatCat but thats besides the point here
[04:21:09] MatCat government has no place in any moral control;
[04:21:21] MatCat atleast not subjective moral issues
[04:21:32] MatCat prostitution being a very subjective moral concept
[04:21:58] MatCat they are doing that login lol
[04:22:19] MatCat and its parents fault for trusting the public school system
[04:22:26] MatCat no it wont
[04:22:38] MatCat because targetting kids wouldn't be allowed
[04:22:51] MatCat so they can't teach the kids because they wouldn't have authority to do so
[04:23:04] MatCat doesn't have to be home schooling
[04:23:12] MatCat parents have the rights to vote in people that will make their local schools better
[04:26:43] MatCat I am against all this sex crap in school
[04:26:49] MatCat sex shit has no place in school education
[04:26:53] MatCat its a parental thing to teach
[04:27:10] MatCat all should be
[04:27:23] MatCat the government has no place to do it no matter how many parents refuse
[04:27:35] MatCat then oh well
[04:27:37] MatCat their parents hwere shit
[04:27:41] MatCat thats on the parents
[04:27:45] MatCat hell no
[04:27:52] MatCat no one has the legal authority to do that
[04:27:54] MatCat nor should
[04:28:20] MatCat school shouldn't be allowed to teach it at all
[04:28:22] MatCat period
[04:28:49] MatCat Samantha: I am not talking about biological teachings, I am talking about anything to actually do with sex of any kind outside of biological function
[04:28:58] MatCat correct
[04:29:05] MatCat government has no place in it
[04:29:08] MatCat no
[04:29:12] MatCat they should not be able to
[04:29:17] MatCat because the school shouldn't be able to each it
[04:29:32] MatCat Samantha because you are a good parent
[04:29:50] MatCat login: if it involves teaching subjective morality, no neve4r
[04:29:56] MatCat school has no pleace teaching such things
[04:29:56] MatCat only parents
[04:30:26] MatCat school should be teaching very specific things, STEM, and civic workings
[04:30:33] MatCat thats really all schools should be teaching
[04:30:55] MatCat anything outside of STEM and civic processes, should be null and void for schools to teach
[04:31:06] MatCat art is gine in a general term
[04:31:15] MatCat as long as the art isn't based on subjective moral concepts
[04:31:44] MatCat because some people would say painting pics of naked sex acts is art, and try to sneak that in, but that involves subjective moral situation, so hence should not be allowed
[04:32:17] MatCat well I see stealing, murder, etc, not as a subjective moral issue, but as a human rights thing, which should be taught
[04:32:30] MatCat login: on a personal level sure, at school, no
[04:32:49] MatCat so ethics in terms of human rights is fine
[04:33:14] MatCat login: thats fine as long as there is no preference taught for them
[04:33:47] MatCat thats not true Samantha
[04:33:55] MatCat thats the parents and family and friends role
[04:33:56] MatCat not school
[04:33:57] MatCat not the state
[04:34:16] MatCat what I am talking about is specifically NOT teaching everyone the same thing, thats whats going on today
[04:34:31] MatCat the school would teach the core things, while the parents / friends teach the moral and subjective things
[04:34:44] MatCat Samantha as they should
[04:34:53] MatCat that is the parents role
[04:35:32] MatCat Samantha: thats the parents choice
[04:35:40] MatCat and children can choose to take that learning or not
[04:36:03] MatCat sure they can
[04:36:11] MatCat there where tons of things I was taught I chose to not follow
[04:36:36] MatCat I was raised in a super conservative pentacostal christian home, I am an athiest
[04:36:44] MatCat I chose not to accept the religious teachings
[04:36:54] MatCat so children very well can choose what they want to accept from what they are taught
[04:37:33] MatCat nope
[04:37:37] MatCat and that was their right
[04:37:46] MatCat when I moved out I could make my own choices
[04:38:21] MatCat as far as I am concerned your parents control your rights for you as long as you are under their care
[04:38:28] MatCat of course I made it
[04:38:34] MatCat I was raised strong
[04:38:38] MatCat even if I disagreed with some aspects
[04:38:59] MatCat I just kept my disagreements to myself until I was on my own
[04:40:03] MatCat yeah my fmaily would of never involved the state or the law on anything fucked up we did as kids
[04:40:54] MatCat I don't distrust cops, I even have cop friends, I just don't voluntarily tell them everything or involve them unless its absolutely needed, and thats not because of trust of the cops, its a general disagreement with many aspects of the law, which isn't the cops fault
[04:41:32] MatCat I find it funny when people get pissed off at cops, then go and vote for someone that makes the cops do what they hate lol
[04:42:40] MatCat logic: that isn't true at local level
[04:42:49] MatCat infact thats a major issue with US politics
[04:42:53] MatCat people are too focused on the tip
[04:42:54] MatCat TOP
[04:42:58] MatCat AND ignore the local level
[04:43:03] MatCat I want to repeal the 17th amendment
[04:43:22] MatCat yeah and thats a huge issue
[04:43:49] MatCat I have thought about running locally, because often times the republican party doesn't even run a candidate locally
[04:43:51] MatCat they just assume no one will win
[04:43:53] MatCat and dont even try
[04:44:04] MatCat and then the democrat candidate wins with like 500 votes
[04:44:05] MatCat lol
[04:44:08] MatCat its a shame
[04:44:26] MatCat I have seen votes less that that locally
[04:44:33] MatCat I remember one candidate won by 240 votes
[04:44:39] MatCat unopposed
[04:44:44] MatCat yep
[04:44:49] MatCat yep
[04:44:54] MatCat thats a major issue
[04:44:58] MatCat shouldn't be happening
[04:45:13] MatCat no
[04:45:16] MatCat its not forced outcome
[04:45:18] MatCat like china
[04:45:21] MatCat its no one gives a shit
[04:45:26] MatCat no one votes, and no one runs
[04:45:45] MatCat thats why I am saying I should run
[04:45:47] MatCat I would win lol
[04:45:58] MatCat I seriously considered it last election
[04:46:00] MatCat I might next
[04:46:09] MatCat would they though
[04:46:16] MatCat or would all the people that want to vote for someone else be like finally
[04:46:17] MatCat and vote for me
[04:46:49] MatCat because I saw a race in NJ where a normally unopposed seat finally had an opposition component, and they won 5:1
[04:47:06] MatCat because everyone was just WAITING for someone of the other party to run
[04:47:11] MatCat but no one was willing to step up and run
[04:47:26] MatCat thats not required on local races
[04:47:36] MatCat talking about township counsil / county counsil positions here
[04:47:48] MatCat its not that strict
[04:47:59] MatCat I am sure they would
[04:48:00] MatCat let them try
[04:48:08] MatCat OR they will be so blind sided
[04:48:14] MatCat because remember, run opposed for 20 years in a row
[04:48:20] MatCat they won't know how to handle a real race
[04:48:32] MatCat couple that with people that are fed up with the current party
[04:48:38] MatCat I dont think it would be that hard
[04:48:45] MatCat doesn't matter if it does or not
[04:48:49] MatCat it sends a message
[04:48:56] MatCat makes it more emboldening for others to run
[04:49:04] MatCat and those people work their way up through the system ovcer the years
[04:49:11] MatCat and eventually get to offices where it does matter
[04:49:21] MatCat small county, easy to do
[04:49:30] MatCat infact, for county counsil positions you just have to file a form
[04:49:33] MatCat there is no sig requirements
[04:49:40] MatCat no it doesnt
[04:49:43] MatCat not if its good people
[04:49:47] MatCat but thats the prob
[04:49:49] MatCat good people dont do it
[04:49:59] MatCat of course they can
[04:50:02] MatCat they just dont try
[04:50:05] MatCat they believe what you think
[04:50:08] MatCat even though its not true
[04:50:32] MatCat for a town / county counsil position, no not really
[04:50:35] MatCat its not a complicated job
[04:50:59] MatCat and not only that, but if I made it to county consil, I would vote no to pretty much every new law proposal for the county
[04:51:01] MatCat lol
[04:51:28] MatCat and not only that, but I would propose laws to repeal existing laws every chance I gotr
[04:51:44] MatCat county counsil is responsible for legislating county law
[04:52:13] MatCat it can legislate its own county laws
[04:52:27] MatCat not always
[04:52:32] MatCat and not everything is covered by state law
[04:52:46] MatCat you don't need to be a lawyer to be city counsil lol
[04:52:52] MatCat thats not really true
[04:53:13] MatCat I think you hold these elected positions in much higher reguard then they really are
[04:53:32] MatCat these local counsil positions aren't lawyers that know every law in and out, they are normal everyday people like you and me
[04:53:38] MatCat and vote based on their beliefs
[04:53:53] MatCat which is why local elections are far far more important
[04:54:09] MatCat even if the outcome of their legislation isn't a big deal, its still the stepping stone where most politicians come from
[04:54:42] MatCat your typical president or congress member didn't just become congress or presaident, they often have a history of elected positions, going all the way down to such local positions
[04:55:28] MatCat so if you pick really good people locally, and vet their performance in your town / county, then a few years later maybe you vote them into state position, then a few years after that maybe you vote them into the house, then maybe a good term or 2 later you vote them into the senate
[04:55:31] MatCat or even president
[04:55:40] MatCat if people did that, the system would work well
[04:58:30] MatCat there are no lobbyists and county level
[04:58:33] MatCat atleast not here
[04:58:40] MatCat maybe in a giant county with huge population
[04:58:50] MatCat not here lol
[04:59:03] MatCat I live in a county with 150k people that is about 1/2 the size of NJ
[04:59:15] MatCat 90% of our county is uninhabitable mountain range
[04:59:36] MatCat well since I look to repeal nearly all laws I should be a friend to them :P
[04:59:45] MatCat there is NO commercial mining in the county
[04:59:48] MatCat literally none
[05:00:14] MatCat well that and most of the land here is either federal or protected
[05:00:20] MatCat I am in the redwoods
[05:00:25] MatCat redwoods are heavily protected
[05:00:48] MatCat it actually killed the industry here in the 70s
[05:00:51] MatCat when they enacted the protections
[05:01:23] MatCat what are you talking about
[05:01:34] MatCat I am against the state enforced protections
[05:02:00] MatCat In 2020, Humboldt produced 5,877,389 in current-dollar total GDP*. This GDP ranked 35th in the state and accounted for 0.2 percent of the state total. In 2010, the total GDP of Humboldt was 4,723,146 and ranked 33rd in the state.
[05:02:32] MatCat I have no idea what your talknig about
[05:03:09] MatCat multitude of reasons, they are the largest trees in the world
[05:03:15] MatCat and have a very tiny range
[05:03:21] MatCat is the main reason
[05:03:28] MatCat they also take thousand years to grow to full maturity
[05:04:07] MatCat its actually illegal to cut down a redwood on your own property if its old growth
[05:04:26] MatCat you have to get a permit and its only allowed if it threatends to destroy inhabited property
[05:04:30] MatCat no
[05:04:31] MatCat I do not
[05:04:44] MatCat I think if you own it its yours
[05:04:54] MatCat the vast majority of old growth redwood is infact in state and federal land
[05:05:22] MatCat as long as it was an opt in agreement sure
[05:05:26] MatCat if you can decide not to
[05:05:29] MatCat thats a simple contract
[05:05:38] MatCat if its fORCED, then no
[05:06:03] MatCat as long as you had the option to not make that deal at all to begin with
[05:06:08] MatCat then thats fine as a contractual stipulation
[05:06:40] MatCat the cranberry mikes harder is pretty good
[05:07:35] MatCat I dont agree on a ban
[05:08:00] MatCat what does that have to do with it
[05:08:07] MatCat I look at it from property rights perpsective
[05:08:33] MatCat if you inherit the land, then any contract of that nature should have the option to either enter into it, or nullify the contract
[05:08:59] MatCat if they choose to enter the contract with the state sure
[05:09:03] MatCat but they should also be able to say no
[05:09:09] MatCat and have the property exity the contract
[05:10:03] MatCat well the law only existed since 70s so forever no
[05:10:09] MatCat and there should be no such thing as forever
[05:10:26] MatCat so what
[05:10:29] MatCat you bought it
[05:10:30] MatCat its yours
[05:10:35] MatCat to do with as you please
[05:10:40] MatCat it being older then you means nothing
[05:10:49] MatCat I disagree with the law
[05:10:53] MatCat the state should have no power over it
[05:11:28] MatCat If you want to share it buy a huge chunk of land and make it a sanctuary
[05:11:33] MatCat or go enjoy the many state and federal lands
[05:11:46] MatCat as I said 90% of old growth redwood is inract on state or federal land
[05:12:00] MatCat the seller hasd no control over that once they dont own it anymore
[05:12:09] MatCat they only have control of that WHILE they own it
[05:12:42] MatCat IF the seller wants control of it, then they shouldn't be selling ity
[05:13:34] MatCat I am saying no ban should exist period
[05:13:37] MatCat you keep flip flopping
[05:13:40] MatCat between a 'ban' and a 'contract'
[05:13:43] MatCat they aren't the same thing
[05:13:52] MatCat one is a hypothetical concept that doesn't exist
[05:13:59] MatCat the other is what it is now, that I do not agree with
[05:14:08] MatCat who cares
[05:14:26] MatCat thats not the point
[05:14:43] MatCat the point is that I don't believe that the state should ahve any say over personal propertry
[05:14:48] MatCat its a simple libertarian view
[05:15:02] MatCat and irrelevent to reality when the state curently doesn't adhear to laws I think are constitutional
[05:15:34] MatCat I think the owner should ahve full mining rights, again, not how it is, but what I think it should be
[05:15:43] MatCat there are a lot of laws in place I disagree with
[05:15:53] MatCat hence why if I ever did get elected I would work to repeal as many as possible
[05:18:05] MatCat login: I wish to enrich everyone
[05:18:09] MatCat its not selective
[05:18:24] MatCat its a simple adherence to principle of absolute rights
[05:18:30] MatCat I am seriously considering it
[05:19:02] MatCat that is completely unamerican tyinking
[05:19:14] MatCat rights are yours as a function of the fact that you exist
[05:19:25] MatCat chistians would say rights are given to you by god, but I am athiest, but same concept
[05:19:44] MatCat government atleast in the USA is only suppsoed to acnoweldge those fundamental rights, not grant them
[05:19:49] MatCat but acknowledge them
[05:19:54] MatCat I disagree
[05:20:09] MatCat as long as absolute rights do not infringe on someone elses rights, that is the crityeria I follow
[05:20:18] MatCat hence you cannot steal from someone, as that violates their property rights
[05:20:29] MatCat You cannot murder, as that violates their right to life
[05:20:30] MatCat etc
[05:20:34] MatCat that is the only law I accept
[05:20:40] MatCat laws that affirm your rights
[05:20:46] MatCat and punish those that violate them
[05:20:52] MatCat anything outside of that, is no go
[05:21:36] MatCat my concept is only for humans
[05:21:59] MatCat that keeps it simple
[05:22:22] MatCat if its punishment for violating someone elses right, thats fine
[05:22:32] MatCat that is the cost of violating someone elses right
[05:23:04] MatCat not neccessairly
[05:23:22] MatCat if you come on my property and try to violate my rates, and I shoot you and you die, then the government did nothing to punish
[05:23:29] MatCat I handled it, and you got your consequence
[05:23:38] MatCat nope
[05:23:48] MatCat self defense is law in pretty much every state
[05:24:07] MatCat hell california is even a stand your ground state
[05:24:51] MatCat if someone is tresspassing, and I have no tresspassing signs up (which I due) then yes it is, if I catch you on my land I yell at you to leave, if you refuse then I can use force to make you leave
[05:25:15] MatCat taking you in for questioning is fine
[05:25:23] MatCat you use appropriate force
[05:25:28] MatCat which is legal
[05:26:14] MatCat someone invading your land and refusing to leave if told isn't a weary traveller lol
[05:26:28] MatCat also that is a christian concept
[05:26:36] MatCat my land is my land
[05:26:38] MatCat I own it
[05:26:48] MatCat thats not how US land laws work
[05:27:09] MatCat I live in the US, so no
[05:27:20] MatCat if you own land you own in
[05:27:33] MatCat Infact I am against how modern land ownership is handled in the usa
[05:27:54] MatCat I think Us land ownership should go back to alidotal deeds
[05:28:04] MatCat sorry bud but I am not in that commie mindset
[05:28:07] MatCat you own what you own
[05:28:13] MatCat and any attempt to take it can be met with force
[05:28:24] MatCat actually there are things I cna do about it
[05:28:30] MatCat hence why I have a right to use force to protect my land
[05:28:42] MatCat I have the weapons to stop that
[05:28:46] MatCat legally
[05:28:55] MatCat lol your getting outside of the conversation mrinfinity
[05:29:01] MatCat and trying to derail it
[05:29:11] MatCat the topic is about land rights, not silly what ifs
[05:29:33] MatCat login: you miss my point this entire time, I am against government law when it violates human rights
[05:29:39] MatCat can't make that more clear
[05:29:43] MatCat I am a rights absoluteist
[05:29:45] MatCat a true libertarian
[05:30:45] MatCat login that isn't possible
[05:30:55] MatCat you cannot buy land without a deed
[05:31:21] MatCat and deed transfers are recorded through the county, so its literally impossible to buy stolen land
[05:31:46] MatCat login: in my state most land goes back to homesteading days
[05:31:56] MatCat where the state owned the land and transfered ownership
[05:33:46] MatCat login: perhaps, but everyone involved is long dead, so its irrelevent
[05:33:59] MatCat at the end of the day your land is only as secure as your ability to defend it
[05:35:08] MatCat if the pepople that occupied the land got killed or ran off, then those that ran them off have taken control, is that cool? no but thats how it works, and in the case here its the government, now we are 200 years later and its moot, because jurisprudence says now the state and hence the citrizens of the state have the rights acceess to the land, if the state should fail then guess who
[05:35:08] MatCat its on? YOU the owner of that land to protect it and ensure you keep ownership
[05:35:20] MatCat I agbree
[05:35:27] MatCat thats exactly true
[05:35:33] MatCat and why I with land in USA SHOULD be alidotal
[05:35:47] MatCat because you ultimately are respoinsible to protect your lamnd
[05:35:51] MatCat thats how it should be
[05:36:11] MatCat no
[05:36:17] MatCat not ideally
[05:36:23] MatCat perhaps realistically
[05:36:30] MatCat but the US government is supposed to proect peoples rights
[05:36:43] MatCat so the government should be on the land owners side as the constitution is written
[05:36:49] MatCat they do work
[05:36:54] MatCat if the government respects peoples rights
[05:36:58] MatCat which it doesn't at current
[05:37:17] MatCat the way the US constitution is written its supposed to work at every level
[05:37:22] MatCat within the country and state
[05:37:32] MatCat clearly how it is today is not how its meant to be
[05:38:01] MatCat the constitution isn't bent, only how people decide to interpite it
[05:38:07] MatCat I agree
[05:38:24] MatCat I 100% agree that the founding fathers would tell us the system today is what they warned us about
[05:38:46] MatCat I dont think so
[05:38:52] MatCat I have actually read the federalist papers
[05:39:11] MatCat are you American?
[05:39:22] MatCat if your not american, I dont see any reason why you would
[05:39:35] MatCat if you are American, you are greatly at a disadvantage by not having read them
[05:39:53] MatCat do you know what the federalist papers are?
[05:40:15] MatCat they are letters that the founding fathers wrote to eachother before the consitution, that made up the bulk of corrispondence in discussing what America would be
[05:40:38] MatCat it really shows their mindsets and views on what they chose
[05:40:38] MatCat and why
[05:41:05] MatCat its why its bs when people today will tell you we have no idea what they meant in writing what they did, its BS, there are fuck tons of corrispodnence by them saying exactly why
[05:41:36] MatCat there are plenty of opposing views in there too
[05:42:04] MatCat nah because that can get corrected by the courts
[05:42:04] MatCat and is
[05:42:09] MatCat gun rights is a perfect example
[05:42:57] MatCat government tried HARD to make laws violating gun rights, they even stuck for a while, but the courtd are eviserating those laws, even with anti-gun adminitration the supreme court is totally destroying gun laws that go against the constitution
[05:43:26] MatCat and those bad laws where made under re-interupreted views of the 2nd amendment
[05:43:34] MatCat and the courts are correcting it
[05:43:44] MatCat lower courts yers
[05:43:47] MatCat but not the saupreme court
[05:43:54] MatCat which ultimately dicates what lower courts must do
[05:44:10] MatCat the bruen decision was a massive gun rights and 2nd amendment originalist victory
[05:44:28] MatCat that is tearing down the bad interpretation of the lower courts
[05:44:35] MatCat no
[05:44:55] MatCat yes
[05:46:35] MatCat A well regulated Militia (the constitution specifies that the militia is ANY American citizen that has not denounced their ccitizenship between the ages of 18 and 45, also well regulated based on old englush AND federalist papers would better translate in modern english to well prepared), being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people (notice it says the right
[05:46:35] MatCat of the people, the military is a seperate thing that the constitution addresses that is seperate from the people and already has rights for armorment, so 2nd amendment is very explicit in its about the people) to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
[05:47:12] MatCat false
[05:47:14] MatCat I told you what it was
[05:47:26] MatCat its ALL US CITIZENS between the age of 18 and 45, that have not denounces citizenship
[05:47:31] MatCat that is how the constitution describes militia
[05:47:44] MatCat the MILITARY is described seperately
[05:47:47] MatCat false
[05:47:51] MatCat well regulated means well prepared
[05:48:04] MatCat as in you own a gun, and ammo, and gun powder, and are prepared to use it
[05:48:06] MatCat no
[05:48:09] MatCat I just explained it
[05:48:13] MatCat it means prepared
[05:48:15] MatCat not trained
[05:48:17] MatCat prepared
[05:48:25] MatCat you have to understand old english
[05:48:31] MatCat well regulated doesn't mean what you think it does today
[05:48:52] MatCat no it means that you own a gun, and have the needed stuff to operate it
[05:49:10] MatCat the only disqualifying factor is that you have not denounced your vitizenship
[05:49:46] MatCat no of course not
[05:49:52] MatCat but one could argue, they could
[05:49:57] MatCat BUT
[05:50:02] MatCat it says the tight of the people
[05:50:12] MatCat the militia isn't a requirement, its just a tool
[05:50:34] MatCat the people have a right to keep and bear arms, for the purpose that they are the militia, they don't have to be miliia
[05:50:47] MatCat so the right to keep and bear isn't factored by are you militia
[05:51:00] MatCat the militia is just a reasoning for why the people have a right to keep and bear arms
[05:51:02] MatCat do you understand
[05:52:15] MatCat I am not against some traihning
[05:52:34] MatCat infact, I think gun safety and knowedlge should be mandatory in schooling
[05:52:57] MatCat I think teaching children gun safety, and basic operation is critical to having a safer society with guns
[05:53:06] MatCat nah
[05:53:08] MatCat because guns are a right
[05:53:12] MatCat so you must understand them
[05:53:26] MatCat it is but the government has no place determining the moral view on it
[05:53:29] MatCat so thats the parents job
[05:53:37] MatCat with guns there is objective safety and understanding
[05:53:46] MatCat just as I think schools should teach reproductive science
[05:53:54] MatCat but they shouldn't teach anything about sex other then that
[05:54:02] MatCat sexual orientation, for example
[05:54:19] MatCat scchools should teach biologically accurate reproductive science
[05:54:40] MatCat that isn't what sex education is n America
[05:54:50] MatCat part of modern school concept of sex education includes sexual orientation
[05:55:21] MatCat I agree, the harm is when you teach subjective ideas
[05:55:28] MatCat such as lesbianism, trannyism, etc
[05:55:38] MatCat because those aren't biological science
[05:55:51] MatCat they exist, but they aren't science
[05:56:01] MatCat so school has no place involved in it
[05:56:19] MatCat exactly, and that should be parents realm
[05:56:27] MatCat no
[05:56:31] MatCat civics is how the government works
[05:56:37] MatCat and thats all it should be
[05:56:59] MatCat if you aren't teaching about sex at all you can't discriminate
[05:57:05] MatCat because you aren't teaching anything about it
[05:57:09] MatCat other then biological science
[05:57:21] MatCat which is a male copulating to a female for the purpose of making babies
[05:57:38] MatCat I disagree
[05:57:42] MatCat thats irrelevent
[05:58:00] MatCat not really
[05:58:15] MatCat because if you teach rights properly, its blind to discrimiating factors
[05:58:25] MatCat rights are equal to all people
[05:58:38] MatCat its blind to subjective morality (should be, not what it is)
[05:58:54] MatCat so if its rights its rights and applies to all people
[05:58:59] MatCat so dscrimination is irrelevnet
[05:59:10] MatCat I.E. stealing from someone is wrong
[05:59:14] MatCat doesn't matter who is stolen from
[05:59:17] MatCat or what they look like
[05:59:21] MatCat or what race they identify as
[05:59:43] MatCat mo you dont
[05:59:49] MatCat because its true to all people
[05:59:53] MatCat race is irrelevent
[06:00:02] MatCat exactly
[06:00:10] MatCat no one was mentioning race
[06:00:11] MatCat but you
[06:00:30] MatCat thats parents jo
[06:00:33] MatCat job
[06:00:40] MatCat what should be is subjective
[06:00:59] MatCat the only objective should bes are when things are violating human rights
[06:01:14] MatCat well that isn't a should be thats enshrined in constitutional right
[06:01:34] MatCat its your natural right that the state recognized to protect
[06:01:55] MatCat thats the same thing
[06:52:04] MatCat lol login, didn't know you where a star wars fan
[06:52:38] MatCat the caharacter is
[06:52:49] MatCat that ios Ahsoka
[06:53:03] MatCat the character Ahsoka
[06:53:10] MatCat of which Ahsoka in this chan is named after
[06:53:26] MatCat yep
[06:53:38] MatCat I have a snake named Ahsoka too
[06:54:34] MatCat is is a cute snek
[06:54:41] MatCat trhanks
[06:55:01] MatCat isn't she cute
[06:55:11] MatCat lol
[06:55:17] MatCat I take my snake photography more seriously
[06:55:34] MatCat you want to see other high quality snek pics
[06:55:55] MatCat login what about this one https://www.mcfile.in/f/a7259e1dd7b3404885a0/?raw=1
[06:55:58] MatCat same snake btw
[06:56:26] MatCat no
[06:56:33] MatCat just mild editing in lightroom
[06:56:35] MatCat of the raw
[06:56:44] MatCat yes
[06:57:32] MatCat yeah that photo would of been better if I focus stacked
[06:57:36] MatCat but you can't be perfect
[06:57:49] MatCat and these are all freehanded shots
[06:57:57] MatCat so hard to focus stack holding camera by hand
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