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[00:44:50] tr [S] <+phish> on a slab like they clinically killed you?

[00:45:44] tr [S] <+phish> i just spent 4 hours tracking down a broken wire on my f250 clinically dead sounds preferable

[00:46:00] tr [S] <+phish> 92 outside atm

[00:46:20] tr [S] <+phish> no spoilers

[00:46:47] tr [S] <+phish> did you get a raging erection?

[00:46:54] tr [S] <+phish> rip

[00:50:22] tr [T] <~Audi> Weighted blankets are great

[00:51:11] tr [T] <~Audi> No need

[00:51:15] tr [T] <~Audi> I’m not judging

[00:53:24] tr [T] <~Audi> Syndus/rizon: huh?

[00:53:27] tr [S] <+phish> someone gave me a shit ton of BHO yesterday not even sure what to do with it

[00:54:05] tr [S] <+phish> oh i know how to use it i just don't smoke anymore

[00:54:17] tr [S] <+phish> probably just boof it

[01:09:57] tr [S] <+phish> `https://preview.redd.it/check-out-this-trick-shot-v0-dzdjzgm01oza1.jpg?width=1080&crop=smart&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=1c48b426806686bc3444acc092938caebf9406cd

[01:26:58] tr [S] <+phish> better than disney bullshit

[01:27:26] tr [S] <+phish> the wind rises is my fav i cry every time

[01:32:49] tr [S] <+phish> yes

[01:34:02] tr [S] <+phish> i'm on swiftirc

[01:34:24] tr [S] <+phish> presumably you guys are on rizon or something

[01:34:57] tr [S] <+phish> hexchat master race tho

[01:35:12] tr [S] <+phish> literally a relay bot

[01:36:05] tr [S] <+phish> might have to do with the 3 minutes of being clinically dead

[01:37:11] tr [S] <+phish> also, meat

[01:47:55] tr [S] <+phish> https://i.redd.it/sentient-planes-v0-gyvcztvo5oza1.jpg?s=ad6f67432f3760bbac882fe1915897d73ee862b6

[02:00:31] tr [S] <+phish> been doing electrolysis on mine

[02:00:49] tr [S] <+phish> shit works super good

[02:06:03] tr [S] <+phish> i have that one

[02:06:23] tr [S] <+phish> one of my homies found it at the thrift store lol

[02:06:47] tr [S] <+phish> https://i.redd.it/7jdxlqxut8za1.png

[02:32:03] tr [T] <login> !bang

[02:32:42] tr [T] <login> :)

[03:03:32] tr [T] <login> is their death recorded?

[03:06:54] tr [T] <login> what baby?

[03:24:32] tr [T] <login> this too shall pass, Syndus

[03:24:53] tr [T] <login> what rows?

[03:26:16] tr [T] <login> sp?

[03:26:27] tr [T] <login> what title is that?

[03:26:56] tr [T] <login> that video stream, is it No_One's?

[03:28:35] tr [T] <login> because he doesnt know how to wear underwear?

[03:29:24] tr [T] <login> yet it isn't ubiquitous

[03:30:26] tr [T] <login> plus, it shows the outline through it

[03:31:07] tr [T] <login> superman is lame, so he flies instead

[03:34:41] tr [T] <login> the chicks are so confined in that stream

[03:36:12] tr [T] <login> in the top right corner?

[03:39:33] tr [T] <login> i can see now!

[03:39:58] tr [T] <login> it's still kinda confined

[03:42:07] tr [T] <login> MatCat: turning into or just realising

[03:42:55] tr [T] <login> that's a big change

[03:43:04] tr [T] <login> why now?

[03:44:37] tr [T] <login> who has moved an inch?

[03:44:58] tr [T] <login> and on whom do you cast doubt and positivity?

[03:52:18] tr [T] <login> skipped you grades = you were ahead faster or slower?

[03:52:39] tr [T] <login> does autism mean they make you go ahead faster?

[03:53:18] tr [T] <login> beat whole sale ass in provocative ways -> meaning?

[03:54:19] tr [T] <login> 16+16+4

[03:54:37] tr [T] <login> The sentences don't seem to make sense, Syndys

[03:54:39] tr [T] <login> *Syndus

[03:55:29] tr [T] <login> oh yeah, forgot about that

[03:56:11] tr [T] <login> Batmanhush: What was that? "laughing out good?"

[03:56:32] tr [T] <login> Syndus: well, even adults misunderstand each other all the time

[03:57:03] tr [T] <login> And the opposite, not being understood before puberty and the non-crystallization of 'something is wrong with me' also causes problems later in life

[03:57:16] tr [T] <login> .kb juano

[03:57:39] tr [T] <login> Syndus: marriage is a coin toss

[03:57:56] tr [T] <login> only reason it was stable earlier was because of a lot of compromise

[03:58:05] tr [T] <login> even if incompatible

[03:58:14] tr [T] <login> extreme degrees of compromise, in fact

[03:58:40] tr [T] <login> Except Elizabeth Holmes - she got a real good partner

[04:03:26] tr [T] <login> MatCat: it was brutal in the past when there was no separation of state and Church... the church used to have brothels to protect the women working in them

[04:03:50] tr [T] <login> isn't it already in the US?

[04:04:04] tr [T] <login> What about polygamy, MatCat?

[04:04:21] tr [T] <login> if a millionaire has 1 child, does a billionaire have 1000 children? no right?

[04:06:15] tr [T] <login> I'm surprised juano is talking after pasting the copypasta twice

[04:07:33] tr [T] <login> MatCat: the other states might want to maintain sanctity

[04:08:14] tr [T] <login> MatCat: but they had such provocative imagery visible in public

[04:09:00] tr [T] <login> all kinds of 'shows', advertising for which was openly shown

[04:09:54] tr [T] <login> juano: Why are the wings left and right? It's multidimensional

[04:10:00] tr [T] <login> not 1D

[04:10:06] tr [T] <login> or 1 bit

[04:10:09] tr [T] <login> *nor

[04:11:08] tr [T] <login> yeah, but how does the government enforce it?

[04:11:53] tr [T] <login> well, one states exist, it's hard to unexist them

[04:11:57] tr [T] <login> *once

[04:12:07] tr [T] <login> and globalism gave us the iPhone

[04:12:45] tr [T] <login> there are a proportion of people who are against it, and the rest are not enthusiastic about it

[04:13:30] tr [T] <login> It's legal in many countries to reflect what is already real - to prevent workers from being scared of prosecution

[04:14:06] tr [T] <login> They make solicitation of such services illegal, while leaving the offering of it legal

[04:15:10] tr [T] <login> Someone who is 17.99 suddenly learns they can offer such services at age 18.01?

[04:15:14] tr [T] <login> there are downstream effects

[04:15:41] tr [T] <login> The advertising can be seen by children too

[04:15:46] tr [T] <login> as was visible in las vegas

[04:16:22] tr [T] <login> well, it's hard enough for parents

[04:16:34] tr [T] <login> and trying too hard leads to black-mirror outcomes

[04:17:22] tr [T] <login> The purpose of regulation is to direct the activity towards certain venues (brothels) where minimum standards for safety and conduct can be satisfied

[04:17:53] tr [T] <login> Without government, it goes underground

[04:18:21] tr [T] <login> juano was spamming before too

[04:19:39] tr [T] <login> If the government makes it legal, including advertising, no parents will be able to shield their children from it

[04:19:52] tr [T] <login> They will have to explain it to them, and set their values on it early

[04:20:13] tr [T] <login> It will split society the same way the trans issue has done it in the US

[04:20:21] tr [T] <login> even though acceptance is good

[04:20:37] tr [T] <login> liek organs

[04:20:41] tr [T] <login> *like

[04:21:39] tr [T] <login> The main anti-trans 'ad' was 'they will teach it to our kids'

[04:22:21] tr [T] <login> Full legality of prostitution will have the same ads

[04:22:47] tr [T] <login> Only ComputerTech's parents and those of similar wealth can afford homeschooling

[04:23:17] tr [T] <login> So the government will have a role - banning it being taught to kids

[04:23:32] tr [T] <login> Guest7411: but living on a single income without an inherited home is impossible

[04:23:38] tr [T] <login> for 2+ people

[04:24:58] tr [T] <login> The only thing that children can get is hormone therapy and puberty blockers

[04:25:36] tr [T] <login> Keeping whom out of school?

[04:25:40] tr [T] <login> children?

[04:26:47] tr [S] <+phish> shun them to the forests

[04:27:03] tr [T] <login> How many parents have the sex talk with their children?

[04:27:19] tr [T] <login> What if their parents never had it with them?

[04:27:39] tr [T] <login> They make parents sign a waiver

[04:28:08] tr [T] <login> Can't parents delegate the teaching to teachers if they want?

[04:28:44] tr [T] <login> So there are only two options: parents have to teach it themselves, or nobody

[04:29:01] tr [T] <login> The parents cannot delegate it via the waiver to the school

[04:29:13] tr [T] <login> That seems like the government interfering in the parents' ability to delegate the teaching

[04:29:35] tr [T] <login> Shouldn't the government allow a contract between the parent and school for the school to teach it?

[04:29:41] tr [T] <login> Or should the gov ban such a contract?

[04:30:07] tr [T] <login> If the parents know what will be taught?

[04:30:28] tr [T] <login> So many parents take their children to after-school classes

[04:30:35] tr [T] <login> even for STEM

[04:31:00] tr [T] <login> English?

[04:31:02] tr [T] <login> music?

[04:31:21] tr [T] <login> what about ethics?

[04:31:25] tr [T] <login> 'moral studies' as they call them

[04:31:33] tr [T] <login> a kind of secular teaching - no religion

[04:31:51] tr [T] <login> don't steal, be honest, stuff like that - without bringing any god or other religious element into it

[04:32:07] tr [T] <login> at age 16.5-17, naked art might be okay

[04:32:51] tr [T] <login> I think in high school, it can be done as part of comparative art studies - if that is a subject

[04:33:00] tr [T] <login> What about different political systems?

[04:33:29] tr [T] <login> If children knew plurality voting was not the only kind of voting, oh what changes there would be

[04:33:53] tr [T] <login> Yeah, teaching the same thing to everyone does not lead to a diverse society

[04:34:33] tr [T] <login> Perhaps school choice would be better, instead of having to be in a certain district to go to a certain school

[04:35:02] tr [T] <login> It's a very deep question, where do all the ills come from?

[04:35:08] tr [T] <login> Children assimilate them from the world around them

[04:35:51] tr [T] <login> They can't not choose to take that learning

[04:36:03] tr [T] <login> They have to pretend to take that learning until they are allowed to emancipate themselves

[04:36:25] tr [T] <login> Did you let your parents know that?

[04:36:33] tr [T] <login> Or wait until you were an adult?

[04:36:48] tr [T] <login> Yeah, corporal punishment, honour killings, it's really barbaric

[04:37:27] tr [T] <login> Did your parents allow this deviation while you were growing up?

[04:38:23] tr [T] <login> At least you made it, MatCat

[04:39:03] tr [T] <login> Samantha: your grandparents made a mistake there

[04:39:32] tr [T] <login> Never involve the state in your children's affairs - it breaks their trust

[04:40:22] tr [T] <login> The state is looking out for itself

[04:40:42] tr [T] <login> it is practically infinitely more powerful

[04:41:18] tr [T] <login> There is a lot of altruism too though

[04:41:35] tr [T] <login> But only a minority of people will let themselves be harmed to the benefit of others

[04:42:14] tr [T] <login> MatCat: when the vote and its results are separated by many many layers of policymakers - the association is lost

[04:43:04] tr [T] <login> Yeah

[04:43:13] tr [T] <login> They don't actually get to know the candidates

[04:43:25] tr [T] <login> And the ones who do and vote differently, just find it pointless

[04:43:40] tr [T] <login> No matter how much effort one makes into deciding their vote, it doesn't change how much it counts for

[04:44:16] tr [T] <login> so only 500 people vote?

[04:44:38] tr [T] <login> against whom?

[04:44:42] tr [T] <login> against nobody

[04:44:45] tr [T] <login> so they could have won with 1 vote

[04:45:09] tr [T] <login> It's just like China then

[04:45:23] tr [T] <login> How does the party get new members?

[04:45:34] tr [T] <login> Yet they're able to choose leaders

[04:45:39] tr [T] <login> It's not hereditary

[04:46:01] tr [T] <login> They'd come out in numbers against you though

[04:46:08] tr [T] <login> your reputation will be in tatters

[04:46:19] tr [T] <login> Depends on how much of a fight you put up

[04:46:38] tr [T] <login> If you had preferential voting, then people might do that

[04:47:16] tr [T] <login> How will you get affiliated with the other party?

[04:47:28] tr [T] <login> They will dig into your past and find out all your controversial takes

[04:47:52] tr [T] <login> Are you sure the incumbent party will not try to discredit?

[04:48:09] tr [T] <login> They may have to make a calculation about not giving you too much light

[04:48:36] tr [T] <login> Even if you do get in, will it give you any real power?

[04:48:42] tr [T] <login> You need social capital too

[04:48:50] tr [T] <login> Why haven't others done it too?

[04:49:04] tr [T] <login> There might be requirements around polling

[04:49:10] tr [T] <login> Or signatures

[04:49:13] tr [T] <login> to even get on the ballot

[04:49:34] tr [T] <login> working one's way up through the system = becoming corrupt

[04:49:54] tr [T] <login> Good people cannot do it

[04:50:17] tr [T] <login> Even if they try, they need to be very smart on their own

[04:50:25] tr [T] <login> Because they won't be getting help from the lobbyists

[04:50:39] tr [T] <login> And various machinations against them will be set into motion

[04:50:46] tr [T] <login> i.e., it's as if the cops are looking to bust you

[04:50:51] tr [T] <login> you have to be exemplary

[04:51:22] tr [T] <login> Will voting no do anything?

[04:51:28] tr [T] <login> It's not like you'd have veto power right?

[04:51:47] tr [T] <login> Repealing and simplifying existing laws would be good

[04:52:04] tr [T] <login> Maybe the county can't even legislate on much

[04:52:22] tr [T] <login> But state law overrides right?

[04:52:34] tr [T] <login> You'd have to learn about it

[04:52:44] tr [T] <login> And pay lawyers to go through the existing law

[04:53:08] tr [T] <login> You may not need to be a lawyer, but you'd have to know how to do the job

[04:56:52] tr [T] <login> They don't vote on their beliefs - they vote based on how the lobbyist tells them to vote

[04:57:18] tr [T] <login> the lobbyist does the actual work of interpreting what is up for vote

[04:58:10] tr [T] <login> MatCat: what you described is how the chinese system works

[04:58:44] tr [T] <login> No land developers?

[04:59:19] tr [T] <login> If the county has economic output, there will be those looking to protect it from laws

[04:59:36] tr [T] <login> Can the mountain be mined

[04:59:57] tr [T] <login> It might not be viable due to EPA etc.

[05:00:42] tr [T] <login> So how do the 150k people make their living?

[05:00:49] tr [T] <login> Are they all working from home using fast internet connections?

[05:01:04] tr [T] <login> who pays for the protections?

[05:01:12] tr [T] <login> The world should be paying for it, right?

[05:01:39] tr [T] <login> I mean, there is talk of paying Brazil to keep the Amazon forest the way it is now

[05:01:48] tr [T] <login> But some things cannot be privatised

[05:01:51] tr [T] <login> like clean air

[05:01:56] tr [T] <login> or the wetlands

[05:02:04] tr [T] <login> or the common defence

[05:02:23] tr [T] <login> just because of market failure

[05:02:47] tr [T] <login> Why has the state protected the redwoods?

[05:02:50] tr [T] <login> For biodiversity reasons?

[05:04:15] tr [T] <login> Do you think that's a good law?

[05:04:48] tr [T] <login> But biodiversity deserves to be protected

[05:05:08] tr [T] <login> What if they give you a payout every year in exchange for promising not to cut it

[05:05:45] tr [T] <login> If you decide not to, you have to pay all the payments back

[05:06:46] tr [T] <login> If you inherited it while there was a ban in place

[05:06:58] tr [T] <login> then you should inherit the ban right?

[05:07:24] tr [T] <login> imagine destorying thousand year old trees

[05:07:33] tr [T] <login> or inheriting such valuable trees

[05:07:48] tr [T] <login> But it existed before you were born right?

[05:07:57] tr [T] <login> It would be unfair to change it now

[05:08:30] tr [T] <login> Think about it this way: if you sell it to someone else for $x

[05:08:33] tr [T] <login> then they remove the ban

[05:08:48] tr [T] <login> Suddenly the buyer of the property got extra value out of it

[05:08:58] tr [T] <login> Wouldn't you feel shortchanged for having sold it for $x?

[05:09:39] tr [T] <login> Since the ban has been there 'forever', changing the status quo would always be difficult

[05:10:05] tr [T] <login> without causing pain to those who adhered to the ban

[05:10:21] tr [T] <login> well, the tree survived a thousand years

[05:10:39] tr [T] <login> You bought it when the law was in place

[05:11:09] tr [T] <login> But it's our shared biodiversity

[05:11:20] tr [T] <login> And the land you bought, you bought it with the ban

[05:11:40] tr [T] <login> the seller sold it with the assumption that the ban will remain in place

[05:12:22] tr [T] <login> Well, the seller can lobby the county to remove the ban

[05:12:40] tr [T] <login> And promise to share the resulting appreciation with the county officials

[05:13:21] tr [T] <login> In this case, if the seller is bribing the county to remove the ban

[05:13:34] tr [T] <login> then the seller will sell post-ban to get some appreciation from the removal of the ban

[05:13:59] tr [T] <login> How does one transition from ban to no-ban without distorting the market again

[05:14:19] tr [T] <login> There might be legal challenges

[05:14:36] tr [T] <login> The residents who care will vote accordingly

[05:15:03] tr [T] <login> It depends on how much of the property is considered under your private control

[05:15:10] tr [T] <login> e.g., mining rights

[05:15:24] tr [T] <login> water rights, right to rare trees on the land etc.

[05:16:34] tr [T] <login> MatCat: a lot of wealthy investors would back you if you promise to enrich them in this way

[05:18:15] tr [T] <login> You should run next time

[05:18:38] tr [T] <login> rights are conferred by government

[05:18:58] tr [T] <login> inalienable rights are only inalienable in principle, not practice

[05:19:16] tr [T] <login> Yes, but it is the truth

[05:19:46] tr [T] <login> Existing in society means giving up absolute rights

[05:21:09] tr [T] <login> The way they bend those is by redefining property

[05:21:23] tr [T] <login> and redefining what life entails (food etc.)

[05:22:03] tr [T] <login> punishment takes away people's right to life (by taking away their time)

[05:22:53] tr [T] <login> So the government must step in to make the rights 'real' with consequences

[05:22:55] tr [T] <login> for violating them

[05:23:17] tr [T] <login> Otherwise, religion plays that role

[05:23:35] tr [T] <login> They'll punish you for it

[05:24:12] tr [T] <login> It depends on if trespassing is a violation of your rights

[05:24:37] tr [T] <login> and in any case, even in self-defence, the police will take you in for questioning

[05:25:11] tr [T] <login> so you will yell and use force to make someone leave

[05:25:52] tr [T] <login> Meanwhile, other teachings include taking in weary travellers etc.

[05:26:25] tr [T] <login> Depends on one's perspective

[05:26:48] tr [T] <login> yeah, the original sin ^

[05:27:19] tr [T] <login> ^ Correct

[05:27:40] tr [T] <login> Ownership of land is a government given right

[05:27:51] tr [T] <login> Without government, no property or borders exist

[05:28:28] tr [T] <login> it will be very hard for you to claim allodial ownership of your land

[05:29:14] tr [T] <login> Legality exists because of government

[05:29:16] tr [T] <login> no gov, no law

[05:30:18] tr [T] <login> MatCat: what if you find out you bought the land from someone who stole it?

[05:30:30] tr [T] <login> Because, if you go back far enough, that is indeed the case

[05:31:06] tr [T] <login> who was the original buyer of the land?

[05:31:33] tr [T] <login> how far back do those go?

[05:32:31] tr [T] <login> Didn't the state violate the property rights of someone to own that land?

[05:32:47] tr [T] <login> And, as you said, human rights are inalienable and you are an absolutist

[05:32:59] tr [T] <login> And that these rights should exist without government

[05:33:12] tr [T] <login> And that the government's job is to punish, essentially, itself

[05:33:28] tr [T] <login> Conclusion: the government can always take your land

[05:33:58] tr [T] <login> Their progeny might still be alive

[05:34:06] tr [T] <login> Correct

[05:34:17] tr [T] <login> And you've delegated the government with that defence

[05:34:44] tr [T] <login> If you had allodial title over the land, you'd have to defend it against everybody's (including the government's) nearly unlimited force

[05:36:03] tr [T] <login> in that case, if someone is able to get you off the land, the gov will approve it

[05:36:18] tr [T] <login> you could not hold allodial title over the land

[05:36:28] tr [T] <login> because you could not defend it

[05:36:41] tr [T] <login> And that's why allodial title doesn't work

[05:36:59] tr [T] <login> It only works at the interstate level

[05:37:09] tr [T] <login> and even then, only in case one doesn't get invaded by a greater power

[05:37:15] tr [T] <login> *interstate = intercountry

[05:37:42] tr [T] <login> All the laws have been bent, including the Constitution

[05:37:58] tr [T] <login> If you had the framers of the constitution here today, they'd be surprised how far things have come

[05:38:07] tr [T] <login> No gold, large debt ceiling etc.

[05:38:36] tr [T] <login> But they might also have agreed with the current system once they saw the necessity of it

[05:38:40] tr [T] <login> to keep up with other countries' systems

[05:39:04] tr [T] <login> i haven't read them, so idk about them

[05:39:35] tr [T] <login> i'm not american, but america does affect the world

[05:40:03] tr [T] <login> i just looked it up

[05:40:11] tr [T] <login> they're an faq to the constitution

[05:40:58] tr [T] <login> If the pressure on the system cannot be alleviated, the system will break

[05:41:10] tr [T] <login> and new laws, new constitution, new demographics

[05:41:36] tr [T] <login> The idea is that instead of changing the document (which is too hard for the country to be nimble)

[05:41:42] tr [T] <login> they will just re-interpret it

[05:43:36] tr [T] <login> the courts are the ones re-interpreting it

[05:44:22] tr [T] <login> doesn't the wording of the second amendment say 'common defence', i.e., military?

[05:44:50] tr [T] <login> do the federalist papers prove this?

[05:47:06] tr [T] <login> militia is the individual states' forces

[05:47:40] tr [T] <login> well regulated = trained right?

[05:47:46] tr [T] <login> as part of a force

[05:48:00] tr [T] <login> i.e., gun training

[05:48:04] tr [T] <login> or a licence

[05:48:28] tr [T] <login> i.e., not unfit to use it?

[05:48:38] tr [T] <login> it means not mentally unwell?

[05:48:43] tr [T] <login> or without a hand

[05:49:34] tr [T] <login> so do they actually take the guns away from those above 45

[05:49:55] tr [T] <login> because of longer life spans?

[05:50:29] tr [T] <login> I thought the militia was supposed to be the individual state's forces, compared to the federal forces

[05:51:28] tr [T] <login> Yes

[05:51:42] tr [T] <login> It's the same thing done in South and North Korea and Thailand

[05:51:58] tr [T] <login> They train every man, in case they need them to be a part of the military in the future

[05:52:15] tr [T] <login> in the US, the purpose is, in case the people need to join a militia

[05:52:27] tr [T] <login> Yet there is no mandatory training any more

[05:52:34] tr [T] <login> There used to be in the past

[05:53:00] tr [T] <login> Parents should be able to sign a waiver, like for sex education

[05:53:15] tr [T] <login> And sex is too

[05:53:33] tr [T] <login> I mean, one has the right to have sex if they want, right? gov can't restrict you from having sex

[05:54:04] tr [T] <login> I used the word sex to mean reproductive science

[05:54:30] tr [T] <login> That is what I meant by sex education

[05:54:50] tr [T] <login> sex = sexual intercourse, isn't it?

[05:55:05] tr [T] <login> Well, doesn't harm letting people know that it exists

[05:55:44] tr [T] <login> Well, all of those exist though

[05:56:08] tr [T] <login> It would be more sociology

[05:56:19] tr [T] <login> Or even civics

[05:56:44] tr [T] <login> Well, government has rules around discrimination

[05:57:18] tr [T] <login> If you teach people, the government is not allowed to discriminate against them

[05:57:30] tr [T] <login> They have to teach the bases on which government cannot discriminate

[05:57:55] tr [T] <login> It's part of teaching about rights

[05:58:26] tr [T] <login> You have to know what the gov is supposed to be blind to

[05:59:14] tr [T] <login> no matter whom it is?

[05:59:36] tr [T] <login> So you have to describe what race is, when giving that last example

[05:59:57] tr [T] <login> Then it would have to be left at that, 'all people'

[06:00:03] tr [T] <login> without mention of race

[06:00:16] tr [T] <login> But at some point they do have to teach children what is, compared to what it should be

[06:00:24] tr [T] <login> i.e., where the shortcomings are

[06:00:54] tr [T] <login> What should be = don't steal from anybody

[06:01:46] tr [T] <login> What about civil liberties?

[06:02:33] tr [T] <login> I guess it is better not to mention things that can inflame what already exists

[06:02:45] tr [T] <login> hello

[06:02:55] tr [T] <login> .o|

[06:04:05] tr [T] <login> thanks to No_One: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czLCyGOgObk

[06:05:05] tr [T] <login> remember that live stream of a giraffe giving birth in a New York Zoo?

[06:11:37] tr [T] <login> Beautiful, Compy

[06:12:37] tr [T] <login> going alright, could be better

[06:12:44] tr [T] <login> irish666: oh no

[06:12:56] tr [T] <login> It's medicine

[06:13:44] tr [T] <login> Why are they making you learn physics when you're doing else

[06:13:59] tr [T] <login> Just for 'all-round' ability, irish666?

[06:16:40] tr [T] <login> You know, emigrating to the UK to do anything medical also requires having aced local exams from age 15+

[06:16:52] tr [T] <login> So, you're in good company

[06:17:07] tr [T] <login> Physics shouldn't be that hard, irish666, especially if it's first year stuff

[06:17:25] tr [T] <login> There are some principles that you'll have to remember, or memorise

[06:17:35] tr [T] <login> School doesn't prepare one for software engineering at all

[06:17:51] tr [T] <login> Not even 'how to think computatationally'

[06:17:56] tr [T] <login> *computationally

[06:18:21] tr [T] <login> At least you're glad you don't have to go into US-level debt to get into US medicine

[06:18:29] tr [T] <login> *you should be glad

[06:18:45] tr [T] <login> A pittance compared to the US price

[06:18:55] tr [T] <login> Yes

[06:19:03] tr [T] <login> The Us price is 10x

[06:19:04] tr [T] <login> *US

[06:19:26] tr [T] <login> And you can't pay it back quickly unless you become a director

[06:19:36] tr [T] <login> or own your own chain of practices or something like that

[06:19:55] tr [T] <login> How did it increase by that much?

[06:19:59] tr [T] <login> in 1 year

[06:20:27] tr [T] <login> Oh, so all the increases caught up in that time

[06:21:17] tr [T] <login> The international students have it much worse for the same study, irish666

[06:21:42] tr [T] <login> your prices are just reaching somewhat closer to the average price the university charges

[06:22:05] tr [T] <login> Do they not prepare you very very well?

[06:22:27] tr [T] <login> dentistry

[06:22:41] tr [T] <login> i.e., the medical field that is the hardest to get into and most lucrative

[06:24:06] tr [T] <login> Computertech: what's that?

[06:24:36] tr [T] <login> irish666: it's because NHS regulates it, right?

[06:24:46] tr [T] <login> You serve people, not people-pounds

[06:25:06] tr [T] <login> i.e., if it were not regulated, you'd maximise the area under the person-pound graph

[06:25:14] tr [T] <login> that would mean serving rich people instead of more people

[06:25:18] tr [T] <login> *richer

[06:26:27] tr [T] <login> UK private pay might be higher

[06:26:31] tr [T] <login> depends on your clientele

[06:26:53] tr [T] <login> tobacco-nicotine free cigarette

[06:27:04] tr [T] <login> ComputerTech: how is it now?

[06:27:14] tr [T] <login> ^ marijuana?

[06:27:24] tr [T] <login> Does it use js or just css?

[06:27:37] tr [T] <login> There is a css-only way of doing it too

[06:28:15] tr [T] <login> it's british, so it must be 1900s

[06:28:22] tr [T] <login> 150 years?

[06:28:33] tr [T] <login> Wow, I was bang-on

[06:28:57] tr [T] <login> 10 years off

[06:29:08] tr [T] <login> I sent 150 before i saw 1880

[06:29:13] tr [T] <login> *typed 150

[06:29:31] tr [T] <login> Isn't it amazing, that that capital equipment has a life of >150 years

[06:30:20] tr [T] <login> MRiNFiNiTYx/rizon: it's because i have always been here

[06:31:14] tr [T] <login> You know, we let 2 ducks go before

[06:32:51] tr [T] <login> Yes, syntax highlighting would be good

[06:32:58] tr [T] <login> Also, detecting prefers-dark-mode in CSS

[06:33:06] tr [T] <login> if the OS is in dark mode, you can auto-detect that in CSS

[06:33:25] tr [T] <login> I usually check if it's in light mode and make dark the default

[06:33:45] tr [T] <login> so older browsers will get dark by default - but now since 90%+ use chrome, it doesn't matter

[06:33:55] tr [T] <login> irish666: lol, wasm is the new flash

[06:41:25] tr [T] <login> Both the advantage and disadvantage of free softare is, that you can fix it

[06:41:29] tr [T] <login> yourself

[06:42:19] tr [T] <login> That is true, but the costs can't be distributed over everybody whose problem would be fixed

[06:42:32] tr [T] <login> Someone has to be a patron to the fix

[06:42:37] tr [T] <login> and hope others do the same for other problems

[06:43:13] tr [T] <login> !bang

[06:43:23] tr [T] <login> Gentoo: apologies

[06:43:40] tr [T] <login> I cannot return the gun to you, because I don't have the ability to

[06:43:47] tr [T] <login> !rearm Gentoo

[06:43:49] tr [T] <login> see?

[06:43:52] tr [T] <login> did not work

[06:44:06] tr [T] <login> I meant the term 'patron' in its English sense

[06:44:11] tr [T] <login> you have to sponsor it for everyone else

[06:44:25] tr [T] <login> One could work for Red Hat and make a living that way

[06:44:43] tr [T] <login> But I have seen many a time, non-proprietary software dev for money requires being much much more skilled

[06:45:14] tr [T] <login> and ultimately, even the linux foundation gets money from corporations who make proprietary software

[06:45:40] tr [T] <login> I guess the bitcoin core devs can make a living writing MIT Bitcoin core software

[06:46:03] tr [T] <login> the non-proprietary version of linux being?

[06:46:05] tr [T] <login> linux-libre?

[06:46:37] tr [T] <login> I wish everybody who used GNU Linux-libre as a matter of principle paid into the donation box

[06:47:06] tr [T] <login> You are good to pay that tithe

[06:47:32] tr [T] <login> Malware developers are very skilled

[06:47:40] tr [T] <login> writing custom low-level software is not for the faint of heart

[06:47:49] tr [T] <login> And I do too, so than you Gentoo

[06:47:51] tr [T] <login> *thank

[06:48:07] tr [T] <login> Should the shit ones do something else with their lives?

[06:48:22] tr [T] <login> maybe this is just their best fit - they just don't fit well into the economy

[06:48:53] tr [T] <login> Not everyone is on the economy's Pareto front

[06:49:37] tr [T] <login> 'living' your device?

[06:50:29] tr [T] <login> MatCat: artist fucked the lips up

[06:50:42] tr [T] <login> Compy: lol

[06:50:50] tr [T] <login> Ignore it

[06:51:18] tr [T] <login> laughing out loud?

[06:52:23] tr [T] <login> Is that from star wars?

[06:52:44] tr [T] <login> i did not know that

[06:52:51] tr [T] <login> i thought it was just a pharoah

[06:53:21] tr [T] <login> i did not know Ahsoka was a star wars character

[06:54:36] tr [T] <login> nice watermark

[06:55:04] tr [T] <login> i have to admit, this photo is much better than the food

[06:55:11] tr [T] <login> very well taken

[06:55:37] tr [T] <login> It is well done, bokeh and everything

[06:55:51] tr [T] <login> You got the composition perfect too

[06:56:03] tr [T] <login> and the lighting and color grading was very good

[06:56:14] tr [T] <login> did you edit it in photoshop

[06:56:34] tr [T] <login> So that is just camera-processed output?

[06:56:40] tr [T] <login> ah yeah, so you did edit the raw in lightroom

[06:56:45] tr [T] <login> that's why it's so good

[06:57:07] tr [T] <login> This latest one is good too, but focus is slightly of

[06:57:09] tr [T] <login> *off

[06:57:20] tr [T] <login> tip of mouth is blurred

[06:57:54] tr [T] <login> composition was perfect

[06:58:00] tr [T] <login> your hand is very still for your age ;)

[06:58:25] tr [T] <login> you could sell these pics

[06:58:35] tr [T] <login> could sell prints

[06:59:14] tr [T] <login> it's very very good

[06:59:22] tr [T] <login> i didn't know you were so serious about snakes

[07:00:01] tr [T] <login> you should look into 3d photography

[07:00:08] tr [T] <login> two cameras separated by distance

[07:00:45] tr [T] <login> Or these: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_field_camera

[07:16:24] tr [T] <login> you should have been a wildlife photographer

[07:16:29] tr [T] <login> i have been saving these lol

[07:16:49] tr [T] <login> the images are big enough that they are loading slowly

[07:17:02] tr [T] <login> over your throttled upload speed

[07:17:21] tr [T] <login> prints of these can be sold online for money

[07:17:54] tr [T] * @herald looks at login

[07:18:03] tr [T] <login> yes herald?

[07:18:09] tr [T] <@herald> yer hair is messed up

[07:18:22] tr [T] <login> but i just had it cut a few days earlier

[07:18:31] tr [T] <login> before then, it was really messed up

[07:18:34] tr [T] <@herald> lol

[07:18:38] tr [T] <@herald> oh fine

[07:18:42] tr [T] <login> and the barber charged me extra because it was long

[07:18:46] tr [T] <login> 'come back earlier next time'

[07:19:01] tr [T] <@herald> mean ol barbers

[07:19:14] tr [T] <login> or should i say hairdresser + salon + hair was extra long?

[07:19:39] tr [T] <@herald> do they do massages at this salon

[07:19:45] tr [T] <@herald> it sounds nefarious maybe

[07:19:49] tr [T] <login> no, they don't

[07:20:01] tr [T] <login> they'd lose their licence if they did that

[07:20:16] tr [T] <login> maybe only for special clients

[07:20:29] tr [T] <login> on a 'don't tell anyone else about this' baiss

[07:20:30] tr [T] <login> *basis

[07:20:45] tr [T] <@herald> i see

[07:20:59] tr [T] <@herald> you need a membership to special clients group i think

[07:21:10] tr [T] <@herald> they probably call it the gold package

[07:21:12] tr [T] <@herald> :D

[07:21:13] tr [T] <login> or to build a close relationship with the shop

[07:21:28] tr [T] <login> where they know you will pay and keep things discreet

[07:21:56] tr [T] <login> but then again, what's the point? there are massage parlours in plain view

[07:22:06] tr [T] <@herald> good point that is

[07:22:07] tr [T] <login> ostensably for back pain

[07:22:16] tr [T] <login> *ostensibly

[07:23:21] tr [T] <login> Presumably, people go there to sate their touch hunger

[07:25:18] tr [T] <login> for Mikoolo/rizon: https://9anime.to/watch/shimoneta-a-boring-world-where-the-concept-of-dirty-jokes-doesnt-exist.19p/ep-1

[07:25:49] tr [T] <login> they're not free though

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