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[00:00:05] tr [T] <login> just finish the clip and buy a full new clip

[00:00:18] tr [T] <login> !shop

[00:00:32] tr [T] <login> 42xp vs 20xp

[00:00:53] tr [T] <login> i choose you, Pikachu

[00:02:44] tr [T] <login> pokemons are enslaved, and must live free

[00:03:10] tr [T] <login> hi Pikachu, how are you?

[00:11:27] tr [T] <login> 1 clip is 6 rounds

[00:11:41] tr [T] <login> the per-round price is the criterion

[00:26:28] tr [T] <login> it's a new economics, crovax ;)

[00:26:51] tr [T] <login> 8D is me wearing sunglasses

[00:27:40] tr [T] <login> net or gross?

[00:28:06] tr [T] <login> did you pay him less because no extras?

[00:28:34] tr [T] <login> well, interest rate is high

[00:28:53] tr [T] <login> why didnt he run away with the money?

[00:29:36] tr [T] <login> 5 weed mafias?

[00:29:43] tr [T] <login> Ahsoka: yes?

[00:30:15] tr [T] <login> ComputerTech heils it

[00:30:59] tr [T] <login> but that's a meal

[00:31:05] tr [T] <login> or a few meals

[00:31:22] tr [T] <login> never, irish666

[00:32:10] tr [T] <login> very rarely

[00:32:15] tr [T] <login> not in the past year

[00:33:23] tr [T] <login> it seems your coworker is not treating it as a business

[00:34:03] tr [T] <login> all such things are a waste

[00:35:08] tr [T] <login> see this twitter thread: https://twitter.com/KeaweWong/status/1657521662198448128

[00:35:41] tr [T] <login> might be an extreme case, but that's where wealth comes from if you don't take a risk with a business venture

[00:36:13] tr [T] <login> ^ using a spray?

[00:36:30] tr [T] <login> or just as a personal trainer?

[00:36:53] tr [T] <login> add moisure by making someone sweat

[00:37:21] tr [T] <login> it would more be reveal than add

[00:46:40] tr [T] <login> Dr_DICK/rizon: dont buy from your coworker again

[00:47:14] tr [T] <login> or only buy cash on delivery

[00:47:43] tr [T] <login> buying bulk attracts interest though

[00:48:05] tr [T] <login> and increases liability

[00:48:25] tr [T] <login> and it's not efficient if you don't buy on credit

[00:48:58] tr [T] <login> so physical transport?

[00:50:36] tr [T] <login> they have to pay taxes

[00:50:54] tr [T] <login> and regulate quality

[00:52:15] tr [T] <login> maybe they're just not able to market better

[00:52:40] tr [T] <login> despite illegality?

[00:55:53] tr [T] <login> why dont the illegal distributors open a legal branch?

[00:56:58] tr [T] <login> gov is spoiling the market

[00:57:36] tr [T] <login> why not use a front man and mix it in?

[00:59:29] tr [T] <login> if the criminal record is previous illegal distribution, then it should be excluded from consideration

[00:59:54] tr [T] <login> Why not sell it wholesale to gov?

[01:00:09] tr [T] <login> gov won't buy it because of provenance concerns?

[01:01:22] tr [T] <login> what's the uncertainty

[01:03:49] tr [T] <login> it seems there's a lot of corruption happening in it

[01:04:05] tr [T] <login> but no body to investigate and punish government corruption

[01:10:14] tr [T] <Roey> .bef

[01:10:21] tr [T] <Roey> ,bef

[01:10:24] tr [T] <Roey> !bef

[01:10:29] tr [T] <Roey> oh right no befs here.

[01:19:34] tr [T] <~therock247uk> o/

[01:23:32] tr [T] <~therock247uk> :P

[01:23:41] tr [T] * ~therock247uk sips beer

[01:24:18] tr [T] * ~therock247uk steals ComputerTechs cider and makes a snakebite :D

[01:25:17] tr [T] <~therock247uk> :o

[01:25:31] tr [T] <~therock247uk> nooooo :o

[01:25:38] tr [T] <~therock247uk> :P

[01:34:27] tr [T] <login> what do you do nowadays, ComputerTech?

[01:34:58] tr [T] <login> not in education, employment or training

[01:35:44] tr [T] <login> not a formal employee of any company, not going to any school (tertiary) - perhaps training, but not in a formal way

[01:36:04] tr [T] <login> how was physics?

[01:36:06] tr [T] <login> was it a take-home?

[01:36:21] tr [T] <login> travel for pleasure?

[01:36:29] tr [T] <login> the work is not exactly formal right?

[01:36:37] tr [T] <login> it's work-optional, isn't it?

[01:37:16] tr [T] <login> but the formal employees work in a much more systematic way for the money

[01:37:21] tr [T] <login> and that money gets taxed too

[01:37:34] tr [T] <login> yours is pocket money for 'work'

[01:37:48] tr [T] <login> yours is post-business-tax money

[01:38:23] tr [T] <login> so pay deposit reguarly into your account and taxes withheld?

[01:39:00] tr [T] <login> End3r: lol

[01:41:38] tr [T] <login> End3r: should i apologise?

[01:41:46] tr [T] <login> sorry ComputerTech

[01:41:49] tr [T] <login> and End3r

[01:42:53] tr [T] <login> it did me no favours to argue

[01:44:16] tr [T] <login> and the code was sent via whatsPp?

[01:44:20] tr [T] <login> *app

[01:44:49] tr [T] <login> it's because whatsapp doesn't allow business accounts

[01:45:00] tr [T] <login> without paying for the privilege

[01:45:20] tr [T] <login> the sender would have to be a business account

[01:45:50] tr [T] <login> Paypal can't just send a billion messages per year from their 1 phone number with whatsapp installed on it to millions of phones

[01:46:12] tr [T] <login> without whatsapp banning the number pretty early in there for 'spamming' essentially

[01:46:36] tr [T] <login> It's part of their money laundering procedures, ComputerTech

[01:47:04] tr [T] <login> You'd have to give them more of your personal information

[01:47:14] tr [T] <login> like your driver's licence

[01:47:19] tr [T] <login> or address proof

[01:47:55] tr [T] <~therock247uk> i hate 2FA its just parnoia

[01:48:10] tr [T] <login> It does help if your password gets compromised

[01:49:06] tr [T] <login> but if the codes are being sent over the internet to your device, then it's just a workaround for key pairs

[01:49:41] tr [T] <login> I didn't know one could use Skrill on Paypal

[01:50:34] tr [T] <login> Does it generate a virtual card to link to Paypal?

[01:51:00] tr [T] <login> I guess that's why they want to see your card statement

[01:51:21] tr [T] <login> Once they see that it's a virtual prepaid card, they may say you can't use a card not associated with a bank account

[01:51:50] tr [T] <login> Because, doing what you're doing, bank account <-> skrill prepaid card <-> paypal, is called layering

[01:52:03] tr [T] <login> i.e., it obfuscates the trail of money from your bank account to the final receiver of the money

[01:52:34] tr [T] <login> it's linked to your bank, it is not a bank itsel

[01:52:59] tr [T] <login> but you don't have a skrill bank account, right?

[01:53:43] tr [T] <login> they might have their own bank account or be a 'private bank'

[01:53:55] tr [T] <login> but they're not your bank

[01:54:06] tr [T] <login> You can send them the skrill card statement

[01:54:44] tr [T] <login> that's rad ComputerTech

[01:54:48] tr [T] <login> cool cool

[01:56:49] tr [T] <login> they just want to match billing address

[02:03:20] tr [T] <login> good night ComputerTech

[02:03:33] tr [T] <login> adopt some responsibility lol

[02:04:34] tr [T] <login> i see, you're on call

[02:05:36] tr [T] <login> the income-generating asset

[02:05:47] tr [T] <login> a motor or whatever

[02:06:06] tr [T] <login> perhaps some preventive maintenance would reduce the number of calls

[02:06:48] tr [T] <login> the overall job seems to be physical asset management

[02:08:29] tr [T] <login> that is just a joke

[02:08:37] tr [T] <login> the sheeps are the ones fixing the machinery

[02:08:40] tr [T] <login> or renting it

[02:10:26] tr [T] <login> aw, that's good

[02:11:47] tr [T] <login> executive function is on a curve

[02:54:08] tr [T] <login> Mikoolo: we do eat some animals

[02:54:23] tr [T] <login> but not one's SO

[03:00:13] tr [T] <login> define {fudgemuppet, morrowind, trinimax, boethia}

[03:00:29] tr [T] <login> P

[03:02:43] tr [T] <login> how can a video game developer, trinimax, be eaten by a virtual game character, boethia

[03:14:02] tr [T] <login> good night million

[03:14:08] tr [T] <login> embrace slumber

[03:22:08] tr [T] <login> ComputerTech can just reset all the numbers to 0 as a refund

[03:54:12] tr [T] <login> No_One: the vagaries of grammar

[03:54:21] tr [T] <login> on an electrical fence

[04:27:13] tr [T] <Roey> .bef

[04:27:13] tr [T] <Roey> ,bef

[04:27:15] tr [T] <Roey> uh

[04:27:16] tr [T] <Roey> uigh

[04:27:17] tr [T] <Roey> *ugh

[04:28:47] tr [T] <Roey> LOL, to lie for you

[04:28:48] tr [T] <Roey> aww

[04:37:36] tr [T] <login> You met your bio dad when you were 13?

[04:38:58] tr [T] <login> so he had a new family every decade?

[04:39:59] tr [T] <login> So he managed to spread his seed far and wide

[04:52:10] tr [T] <login> stephen forbes

[04:53:02] tr [T] <login> https://www.amazon.com/Neptunes-Lance-Stephen-K-Forbes/dp/0451171209

[04:53:31] tr [T] <login> and vortex is by Catherine Coulter

[04:53:51] tr [T] <login> They're old books

[04:53:54] tr [T] <login> pre-2000

[04:54:28] tr [T] <login> well, vortex isn't

[04:55:08] tr [T] <login> they want to make it the new LoTR perhaps

[04:55:21] tr [T] <login> and to get the magic system popular

[04:56:18] tr [T] <login> also an old boo

[04:56:19] tr [T] <login> *book

[04:56:40] tr [T] <login> There is so much fiction out there; too much for any one person to cover - even if they read everyday

[05:09:39] tr [T] <login> i haven't read any of those books however

[05:09:58] tr [T] <login> the last full book i read was lexicon (max barry)

[05:10:25] tr [T] <login> and one partially read one was providence (same author)

[05:10:58] tr [T] <login> I found this microshort story of his funny too: https://maxbarry.com/2008/09/18/news.html

[05:11:07] tr [T] <login> "I Should Buy Some Cement"

[05:26:36] tr [T] <login> ^ Interesting DuckHunt lore

[05:26:49] tr [T] <login> two ducks -> a duck escapes

[05:26:55] tr [T] <login> one duck -> the duck escapes

[05:27:15] tr [T] <login> hi wez

[05:27:26] tr [T] <login> how's your monday so far?

[05:33:27] tr [T] <login> I hope Mikoolo's first day is fantastic

[05:43:20] tr [T] <login> who hangs out on mcchat?

[05:43:39] tr [T] <login> computertech is #2 on rizon!?

[05:44:24] tr [T] <login> wow, good job cultivating this place with your online family friends, ComputerTech

[06:59:01] tr [T] <login> how do you find these, Batmanhush?

[07:14:58] tr [T] <login> Do you discuss electronics on #mcchat, MatCat?

[07:15:02] tr [T] <login> e.g. https://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/DeviceDoc/30010134A.pdf

[07:17:45] tr [T] <login> Do you teach remotely on an hourly basis?

[07:20:32] tr [T] <login> how did you learn how to design circuits?

[07:28:05] tr [T] <login> it's because that's the one the company uses

[07:28:44] tr [T] <login> what studying resources do you recommend?

[07:31:20] tr [T] <login> man, DuckHunt is tempting

[07:31:24] tr [T] <login> but I shall not be tempted

[07:46:00] tr [T] <login> do parasitics go away if you touch the board?

[07:52:04] tr [T] <login> are the representative resistor and capacitor in series or parallel ;)

[07:54:44] tr [T] <login> I was more making a joke on how you have a magic touch that can make parasitics go away, MatCat

[07:55:21] tr [T] <login> But I am glad to understand now that the body can be represented as a very high resistance resistor and capacitor (unless sweaty)

[07:58:25] tr [T] <login> What about the 'transmission line' model with an infinite combination of resistors, capacitors and inductors?

[07:59:08] tr [T] <login> it would not behave as a lumped model of 1 resistor, 1 capacitor and 1 inductor, right?

[08:01:02] tr [T] <login> well, every passive component at least

[08:01:12] tr [T] <login> passive linear component*

[08:03:54] tr [T] <login> so cooling can get rid of resistance?

[08:07:30] tr [T] <login> i guess i understand now; no cooling = resistance is harder to model due to temperature-based changes

[08:23:26] tr [T] <login> ^ correct

[08:23:31] tr [T] <login> I coined that term

[08:24:05] tr [T] <login> How did he get the duck to lose 3 life points in one shot

[08:32:45] tr [T] <login> ty for letting me know

[08:33:07] tr [T] <login> How do you know it spawned for Peorth?

[08:33:48] tr [T] <login> i thought he meant it shows up when you're around more often

[08:34:02] tr [T] <login> *it shows up more often when you're around]

[08:34:20] tr [T] <login> btw, are any of you on envs.net>

[08:34:24] tr [T] <login> s/>/?

[08:34:45] tr [T] <login> it's not my tilde, it's by someone named ~creme

[08:34:56] tr [T] <login> but i thought it looks really beautiful

[08:35:20] tr [T] * @herald looks at login

[08:35:53] tr [T] <login> https://envs.net/~creme/

[08:35:55] tr [T] <login> hello herald

[08:35:59] tr [T] * @herald looks at herald looking at herald looking at login

[08:36:06] tr [T] <login> creme is from germany too

[08:39:06] tr [T] <login> quick logic question: how many mirrors between herald and me

[08:39:54] tr [T] <login> what if you can see me in your eye's reflection of the mirror

[08:43:04] tr [T] <login> normal mushrooms or the magic ones?

[08:43:21] tr [T] <login> !bang

[08:43:24] tr [T] <login> !reload

[08:43:44] tr [T] <login> An interesting question: whose noise made the duck flee?

[08:44:03] tr [T] <login> luck

[08:44:17] tr [T] <login> bad luck is also luck

[08:44:51] tr [T] <login> it's just sampling a random variable - bad runs of any length have probability > 0

[08:45:49] tr [T] <login> 3 misses, each with probability 0.45

[08:46:02] tr [T] <login> (0.45)^3 = 0.091125

[08:46:09] tr [T] <login> There was a 9% chance of this happening

[08:47:23] tr [T] <login> So the random variable is distributed as a bernoulli distribution with p=0.45

[08:48:05] tr [T] <login> and this particular outcome, of 3 misses in a row, can be considered a different random variable distributed as a binomial distribution

[08:48:20] tr [T] <login> with p = 0.45 of missing, and n=3

[08:51:51] tr [T] <login> ComputerTech: some useful math - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Actuarial_credentialing_and_exams#Preliminary_exams

[08:52:00] tr [T] <login> (see the exam topics table)

[09:00:22] tr [T] <login> how come computertech got a # channel instead of a ## channel?

[09:02:23] tr [T] <login> on rizon

[09:02:41] tr [T] <login> i thought ## was for private use, and # channels were not allowed other than the 'official' ones that were already there

[09:03:00] tr [T] <login> maybe that's only on libera - so ##chat is from libera?

[09:03:07] tr [T] <login> oh

[09:32:44] tr [T] <login> on home data centers: https://twitter.com/punk6529/status/1657844178745802752

[09:39:11] tr [T] <login> let me see if i can extract that thread, franstam

[10:00:43] tr [T] <login> franstam: https://ttm.sh/Wm-.png

[10:00:58] tr [T] <login> save it before it gets deleted in <1 year

[10:19:23] tr [T] <login> Somewhat long short story, written by a high schooler: https://tilde.team/~konomo/blog/entries/2023/05/biological-pronouns.html

[10:19:36] tr [T] <login> (do not contact ~konomo about this)

[10:26:29] tr [T] <login> have you tried the new raspberry cola zero?

[10:26:34] tr [T] <login> because coke means cocaine

[10:27:17] tr [T] <login> Another shorter story, alright quality: https://ctrl-c.club/~chiptune/ink/fish.html

[10:32:18] tr [T] <login> Have any of you seen this film? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primer_(film)

[10:33:22] tr [T] <login> it's a time travel film

[10:33:31] tr [T] <login> very complicated loop

[10:34:23] tr [T] <@herald> what if i dont want to think

[10:42:24] tr [T] <login> bad share

[10:52:29] tr [T] <login> i mean, it is personal information

[11:50:56] tr [T] <login> I recently was watching an anime, and came across a bit of philosophy

[11:51:06] tr [T] <login> Was hoping to get your (the folks' here) thought on it

[11:51:21] tr [T] <login> Would you like to watch the scene in question? It's 2 minutes long

[11:54:30] tr [T] <login> Link: https://9anime.to/watch/mardock-scramble-the-third-exhaust.w834/ep-1

[11:54:40] tr [T] <login> Start time: 17:25

[11:54:45] tr [T] <login> "I have a question"

[11:56:07] tr [T] <login> End time: 18:53

[11:56:25] tr [T] <login> "That is what gambling is."

[12:13:34] tr [T] <login> Yeah, but I never saw the "100%" version of the responses coming

[12:13:44] tr [T] <login> And it was the first time I saw it described as 50% response vs 100% response

[12:14:16] tr [T] <login> It is an analogy for a game-theory payoff matrix, right?

[12:16:37] tr [T] <login> or a version of the prisoner's dilemma

[12:17:05] tr [T] <login> where your perception of the probability of betrayal changes what you do

[12:33:27] tr [T] <login> wildting3: what does the number next to your nickname mean?

[12:33:32] tr [T] <login> it was 2 before, now it's 3?

[12:33:37] tr [T] <login> i guess i spoke too soon

[12:47:00] tr [T] <login> i thought it was the number of years you've been on rizon

[12:47:18] tr [T] <login> and that you'd had your anniversary of being on rizon recently

[13:13:30] tr [T] <login> 50% is like you expect a 50% chance of betrayal

[13:14:08] tr [T] <login> 100% is like you don't just expect certain betrayal, you are the one betraying the other in both cases

[13:15:06] tr [T] <login> I was interested in knowing if there were other examples of a "100%" kind of response amongst psychopaths

[13:15:34] tr [T] <login> and what the "50%" version would be, and let's say, what the 0% version would be

[13:17:29] tr [T] <login> In low-trust societies, many people don't offer help (for fear of betrayal/adverse selection)

[13:17:43] tr [T] <login> but do they seek help?

[13:18:55] tr [T] <login> High trust enables nice things

[13:19:41] tr [T] <login> Would you pick up a woman who was a hitch hiker?

[13:20:24] tr [T] <login> it's connected to not advocating for women to hitch hike in a high trust society

[13:20:55] tr [T] <login> just because of the spidey sense of something wrong in the situation?

[13:22:57] tr [T] <login> A young good looking woman in a car picked you up?

[13:23:25] tr [T] <login> insanely helpful

[13:23:56] tr [T] <login> Interesting scenario, isn't it?

[13:24:20] tr [T] <login> maybe you were wearing a nice watch

[13:25:22] tr [T] <login> So even you felt insane being picked up by a person with this profile

[13:25:52] tr [T] <login> That you weren't trying too hard made her feel you were genuine

[13:26:25] tr [T] <login> the reward is a good feeling inside

[13:26:42] tr [T] <login> She could have gotten it for you herself

[13:27:01] tr [T] <login> Did she ask you if you called the parts store ahead of time?

[13:27:20] tr [T] <login> It all depended on her conception of other people's trustworthiness

[13:27:52] tr [T] <login> If she was a lawyer or prosecutor, her reaction would be different

[13:28:36] tr [T] <login> Maybe she was a single mother

[13:29:14] tr [T] <login> Did you feel like she would rob you?

[13:29:43] tr [T] <login> But why would a woman with a child pick you up otherwise?

[13:29:54] tr [T] <login> you could have sensed danger in the situation

[13:30:53] tr [T] <login> I think getting a good idea of the psychology and game theory involved in these kinds of questions is vital to things like inter-country relations and diffusing tensions

[13:32:11] tr [T] <login> At the country level, especially if both countries have comparable economic and firepower, trust becomes very important

[13:33:00] tr [T] <login> And gathering accurate intelligence becomes a method of ensuring peace

[13:33:17] tr [T] <login> especially if you trust your intelligence gathering ability

[13:34:09] tr [T] <login> the two countries' intelligence communities act as a method of trusted communication

[13:34:28] tr [T] <login> perhaps the way astrologers were in the past

[13:34:53] tr [T] <login> A bad 'positioning' of the planets as agreed by astrologers in two kingdoms can delay a war

[13:35:49] tr [T] <login> Both kings (monarchs?) trust their astrologers, and the astrologers trust something as objective and amoral as the movement of the planets

[13:36:57] tr [T] <login> but the USA is a child born of the UK

[13:38:11] tr [T] <login> It is more likely the UK will have a Chinese military base

[13:38:46] tr [T] <login> the united states of england, scotland and ireland

[13:39:12] tr [T] <login> wales too

[13:39:56] tr [T] <login> The US Constitution has no mechanism for states to seccede though, right?

[13:40:23] tr [T] <login> and if some state were to enact a border using their state forces, the national guard will be called

[13:40:54] tr [T] <login> The empire is no longer needed now that the borders are porous

[13:41:09] tr [T] <login> it's all porridge now

[13:43:19] tr [T] <login> I thought the empire grew to expand global trade

[13:43:31] tr [T] <login> because different regions were putting up trade barriers

[13:43:49] tr [T] <login> grew to expand -> grew for the purpose of expanding

[13:44:37] tr [T] <login> but now I think it was to get goods cheaper from places that weren't able to defend their sovereignity

[13:45:50] tr [T] <login> So, the empire is not needed today because there is already, monetarily, a force that is allowing goods to be gotten cheaper from other places

[13:47:42] tr [T] <login> I think that force is that the UK can borrow in pounds cheaply without messing its exchange rate up

[13:48:19] tr [T] <login> it was tested recently though

[13:51:22] tr [T] <login> or that there is a way for the UK to borrow USD, and the USD holds its value against the other currencies because China's central bank tries to keep the yuan-usd exchange rate in a certain (undisclosed) band

[13:51:54] tr [T] <login> The UK's central bank can borrow USD through 'swaps'

[13:52:02] tr [T] <login> with the US's central bank

[13:53:06] tr [T] <login> Getting goods cheaper is good for the UK because 'hey, getting things for cheap!'

[13:53:30] tr [T] <login> but also bad because then the suppliers have leverage over the UK

[13:53:39] tr [T] <login> so who is the actual empire?

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[20:32:02] tr [S] <phish> no pic no proof

[20:32:36] tr [S] <phish> no but i don't know any other way to prove it

[20:36:21] tr [T] <login> maybe just a silhouette

[20:36:52] tr [T] <login> how can we possibly know if it's yours

[20:37:32] tr [T] <login> if the composition and lighting is right, it can look artistic

[20:38:22] tr [T] <login> imagine a pic of the shower with the temperature, but there a shadow on the wall that shows the 'goods'

[20:38:50] tr [T] <login> metamaterial

[20:41:36] tr [T] <login> became younger

[20:42:15] tr [T] <login> depends if one can see through to it

[20:42:50] tr [T] <login> who's participating?

[20:44:24] tr [T] <login> but there has to be a video, sponsor and brand

[20:44:44] tr [T] <login> and line of burgers and other edibles

[20:45:37] tr [T] <login> if ComputerTech were a good bookie, it would be first place 200gbp, second place -300gbp

[20:47:23] tr [T] <login> an actual arms deal

[20:48:16] tr [T] <login> police might be tailing them

[20:48:38] tr [T] <login> but are you a legal holder?

[20:54:40] tr [T] <login> how does putin keep his close allies loyal to him?

[20:54:59] tr [T] <login> there must be no single point of trust

[20:56:13] tr [T] <login> just like there were in america when it went to war in various places

[20:57:05] tr [T] <login> it's cuban missile crisis 2.0

[20:57:26] tr [T] <login> who else could do it better than America?

[20:57:44] tr [T] <login> but almost every other country could do it worse

[20:58:04] tr [T] <login> that would tank the US dollar

[20:58:09] tr [T] <login> and create a power vacuum

[20:58:17] tr [T] <login> US trade would be affected

[20:58:36] tr [T] <login> other countries would rapidly start developing their own defence and weapons

[20:59:00] tr [T] <login> US companies' assets abroad will get nationalised

[20:59:19] tr [T] <login> why not? the US won't do anything about it

[21:00:19] tr [T] <login> unless it affects US interests

[21:00:42] tr [T] <login> It will lead to a worse life for Americans

[21:00:46] tr [T] <login> and they won't even know why

[21:01:41] tr [T] <login> Why would wages be higher?

[21:01:55] tr [T] <login> Instead, there would be no market clearing price for many kinds of labour

[21:02:20] tr [T] <login> Wouldn't it hit the roof as external supply of goods would stop?

[21:02:47] tr [T] <login> I think inflation outside the US would go down if the US were to do it

[21:02:56] tr [T] <login> since goods that were coming into the US would now be sold to others

[21:03:44] tr [T] <login> Would external companies invest in a country that wanted to be completely self-sustaining?

[21:04:00] tr [T] <login> The US would have to reduce their own consumption and work for several generations to build capacity again

[21:04:22] tr [T] <login> But they're bought on credit

[21:04:35] tr [T] <login> If it were chinese capital equipment, then the story might be different

[21:04:53] tr [T] <login> China would also have to re-orient if that ended

[21:05:04] tr [T] <login> But it's not like goods that go to America cannot be sold elsewhere

[21:05:52] tr [T] <login> no, i am not

[21:06:39] tr [T] <login> What might happen is China might export to third countries that then re-export to the US

[21:07:07] tr [T] <login> Would the Chinese leave?

[21:07:21] tr [T] <login> They might start using their own goods

[21:08:12] tr [T] <login> A similar effect can be achieved if Americans become very into saving money

[21:08:23] tr [T] <login> They can buy it in their own currency

[21:08:28] tr [T] <login> And the exchange rate can change

[21:08:47] tr [T] <login> Hi

[21:09:01] tr [T] <login> If Americans started saving like 50-60% of their income

[21:09:21] tr [T] <login> and stopped buying stuff, then it will have the same effect as 'stopping trade'

[21:09:37] tr [T] <login> Only buying capital equipment, no consumable goods

[21:09:49] tr [T] <login> No new clothes, no new furniture, no new cars etc.

[21:10:07] tr [T] <login> A similar effect happened when China was under lockdown and they stopped exporting in volume

[21:10:15] tr [T] <login> (i.e., inflation in the US)

[21:10:43] tr [T] <login> Other countries have a very different kind of saving culture to that of the US

[21:10:54] tr [T] <login> They won't even save in their own currency, but in gold

[21:12:16] tr [T] <login> That's a good percentage

[21:12:31] tr [T] <login> And never accept spot price for physical metal

[21:12:55] tr [T] <login> I mean, landlords are crazy for not wanting to diversify into metals

[21:15:12] tr [T] <login> just natural weather

[22:06:47] tr [T] <login> how was the sandwich?

[22:16:23] tr [T] <login> i might make something similar lol

[22:20:55] tr [T] <@herald> sup

[23:54:41] tr [T] <login> with milk?

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