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Thursday, June 8, 2023
[04:08:16] tr_ [T] <+login> !bang
[04:08:21] tr_ [T] <+login> !reload
[04:08:27] tr_ [T] <+login> !bang
[04:08:32] tr_ [T] <+login> !reload
[04:08:35] tr_ [T] <+login> !bang
[04:08:40] tr_ [T] <+login> !reload
[04:08:44] tr_ [T] <+login> !bang
[04:08:49] tr_ [T] <+login> !bang
[04:08:53] tr_ [T] <+login> !bang
[04:09:06] tr_ [T] <+login> what a meme gun i've got
[04:11:38] tr_ [T] <+login> that would get you arrested in london at least
[04:12:48] tr_ [T] <+login> but, if cars knew bicycles could have these, they'd be more respectful of the cyclist's space
[04:13:20] tr_ [T] <+login> it evens the inherent imbalance in power between the car and bicycle on the road
[05:28:43] tr_ [T] <+login> Nimko: if you think facebook is extreme, look at LinkedIn
[06:13:31] tr_ [T] <+login> Nimko: i'm login; tr is just the TechNet relay
[06:13:55] tr_ [T] <+login> it's best to keep your irc identity and real-life identity accounts separate, and not to mix them
[06:14:10] tr_ [T] <+login> however, anyone with IP logs can associate those if you use the same device
[06:15:16] tr_ [T] <+login> each website, if they keep a log of who's accessed them, has that information for their own website's visitors
[06:15:32] tr_ [T] <+login> another way would be through DNS
[06:16:26] tr_ [T] <+login> your ISP would know, but so would the DNS server your computer uses to translate the domain name to the website's ip address
[06:16:52] tr_ [T] <+login> most VPN apps would also route your DNS queries through the vpn
[06:17:31] tr_ [T] <+login> and if you don't use DNS over HTTPS or DNS over TLS, then your DNS queries would be in plaintext
[06:17:58] tr_ [T] <+login> i.e., any router on the path between your computer and the DNS server will be able to associate your IP address with the website you're trying to visit
[06:18:34] tr_ [T] <+login> yeah, using encryption
[06:19:20] tr_ [T] <+login> in that case, even the contents of the website would be transmitted over plaintext
[06:20:37] tr_ [T] <+login> yes, the hoster of the website can see your IP address and what you're doing on the site (if they track it), Nimko
[06:21:00] tr_ [T] <+login> The danger is that there are governments that are definitely tracking DNS queries and IP addresses
[06:21:32] tr_ [T] <+login> And others who want to doxx you could do it too
[06:22:14] tr_ [T] <+login> With your ip address, they could find a way to get through your firewall too, if they're sophisticated enough or if you've allowed inbound connections (which is usually not the case except if you're running a server at home)
[06:23:06] tr_ [T] <+login> yeah
[06:23:15] tr_ [T] <+login> well, not 'see', but know
[06:23:34] tr_ [T] <+login> they could, if they had a device in between, even modify the content of the website and you wouldn't know
[06:23:58] tr_ [T] <+login> correct ^
[06:24:17] tr_ [T] <+login> but the premise was 'happened to not be secured with HTTPS'
[06:25:06] tr_ [T] <+login> Yes, you should be provably be sleeping
[06:25:21] tr_ [T] <+login> But they'd have to, if not modifying what was sent to you, know what the website was sending back and reverse-engineer that
[06:26:00] tr_ [T] <+login> but the biggest risk is something on your own computer spying on you
[06:26:27] tr_ [T] <+login> it should say tr_ <+login> my actual message
[06:27:02] tr_ [T] <+login> But yes, if you have an open port on your computer, they could send information to it from the outside
[06:27:08] tr_ [T] <+login> if they had your ip address
[06:27:29] tr_ [T] <+login> and if the software was buggy, could gain the ability to do whatever that software is allowed to do on your computer
[06:27:40] tr_ [T] <+login> Zoom got in trouble for this
[06:27:50] tr_ [T] <+login> Peorth: lol
[06:28:06] tr_ [T] <+login> that IP address is in the reserved range for local area networks
[06:28:26] tr_ [T] <+login> Not even Zoom bombing
[06:29:02] tr_ [T] <+login> But that Zoom was creating a server during installation, and that the server had a bug that allowed outsiders to, by crafting the right information to send to your ip address at Zoom's port, do everything Zoom could do on your computer
[06:29:18] tr_ [T] <+login> ^ i wouldn't be able to tell
[06:29:37] tr_ [T] <+login> yes
[06:30:33] tr_ [T] <+login> 127.0.0.1 is the loopback address, which is just used to refer to oneself without leaving the local area network
[06:31:05] tr_ [T] <+login> Isn't it interesting that the original advice on the internet was, don't use your real name
[06:31:15] tr_ [T] <+login> And then the advice is, don't use an email address that is *not* your real name
[06:31:38] tr_ [T] <+login> And now many people put all their real information and face and photos on the internet
[06:31:50] tr_ [T] <+login> Especially if they want to gain employment
[06:32:16] tr_ [T] <+login> You could get a Pi hole, which could sit in between your ISP's router and all your other connections
[06:32:36] tr_ [T] <+login> A raspberry pi computer that acts as a firewall
[06:33:15] tr_ [T] <+login> Yes, the router itself also has a firewall
[06:33:19] tr_ [T] <+login> But so does your computer
[06:33:34] tr_ [T] <+login> And they're software
[06:33:57] tr_ [T] <+login> Yes
[06:34:19] tr_ [T] <+login> Even your phone has a firewall
[06:34:54] tr_ [T] <+login> But it wouldn't help much, especially if you already block inbound connections (which most firewalls do)
[06:35:11] tr_ [T] <+login> is it broadcasting it?
[06:36:16] tr_ [T] <+login> it's like multiple layers of swiss cheese
[06:41:36] tr_ [T] <+login> Getting past your router's firewall is what all websites do when they send information to you
[06:42:09] tr_ [T] <+login> One can only send packets through your router's firewall
[06:42:49] tr_ [T] <+login> Gaining remote access past your router's firewall would be something that would be the end all be all
[06:48:33] tr_ [T] <+login> yes
[06:48:50] tr_ [T] <+login> but many isp routers don't allow you to 'bridge' the router with the pi-hole
[06:49:33] tr_ [T] <+login> and there would be a question of how to make wifi go through the pi-hole
[06:53:46] tr_ [T] <+login> but many ISPs won't let you configure another router that way
[06:58:59] tr_ [T] <+login> yes, that makes it harder
[06:59:23] tr_ [T] <+login> you would have to find out how to make the ISP think your router is their router
[07:00:23] tr_ [T] <+login> You'd have to find out about the TR-069 protocol
[07:11:54] tr_ [T] <+login> yes, they try to lock it down because sometimes botnets are able to find insecure routers (how often does your router update its firmware?) and make them a part of their botnet
[07:14:02] tr_ [T] <+login> and the physical installation would be to instal the ONT
[07:14:19] tr_ [T] <+login> optical network terminal
[07:14:38] tr_ [T] <+login> i.e., where the fibre optics end and electrical connection begins
[07:15:12] tr_ [T] <+login> It's not even for censorship, which they are not allowed to do, but for fair use reasons
[07:24:46] tr_ [T] <+login> Came across a good quote: "An adventure is an inconvenience rightly considered and an inconvenience is an adventure wrongly considered."
[08:25:44] tr_ [T] <+login> The queen of England's poop could have fetched some money at Christie's
[09:57:55] tr_ [T] <+login> once you get our help, will you be using the bot for spam, mozambique?
[09:58:29] tr_ [T] <+login> how does one learn new things when one does not know them? reading the IRC specifications? Reading the bot's source code?
[10:15:43] tr_ [T] <+login> Hello Frogorg
[10:15:55] tr_ [T] <+login> I came across this https://www.interfluidity.com/v2/5031.html#comment-37427
[10:16:01] tr_ [T] <+login> but i can't understand it
[10:36:53] tr_ [T] <+login> Here's a draft article on military procurement in the US: https://drafts.interfluidity.com/2023/06/04/quietly-expensive-desperation/index.html
[10:37:59] tr_ [T] <+login> drive in your open-source car to the open-source market... oops, those are not open source
[10:38:45] tr_ [T] <+login> Would a totally open-source country be good? No secrets at all
[10:39:08] tr_ [T] <+login> Who is Linux's proprietor?
[10:41:08] tr_ [T] <+login> Who decides what gets mainlined into the linux kernel?
[10:42:14] tr_ [T] <+login> well then, a linux distro = a distribution with the kernel Linux?
[10:43:12] tr_ [T] <+login> They don't know any better
[10:43:25] tr_ [T] <+login> GNU/Linux doesn't have systemd
[10:43:29] tr_ [T] <+login> s/$/?
[10:44:04] tr_ [T] <+login> so you use initd?
[10:45:02] tr_ [T] <+login> Unfortunately, where software meets hardware, things become proprietary
[10:45:04] tr_ [T] <+login> !bang
[10:45:17] tr_ [T] <+login> thank you, MAGIC
[10:45:56] tr_ [T] <+login> intel wifi for example
[10:45:58] tr_ [T] <+login> s/$/?
[10:46:23] tr_ [T] <+login> and what about the trackpad etc.
[10:46:35] tr_ [T] <+login> in a laptop form factor?
[10:46:52] tr_ [T] <+login> and does it do palm rejection?
[10:47:22] tr_ [T] <+login> that's the problem i get when booting from linux
[10:47:33] tr_ [T] <+login> from Ubuntu*
[10:47:47] tr_ [T] <+login> lots of phantom taps
[10:48:06] tr_ [T] <+login> Yeah, that could work
[10:48:18] tr_ [T] <+login> But should not be necessary
[10:49:21] tr_ [T] <+login> Or learn how the Synaptics driver works and add trackpad rejection to it
[10:49:26] tr_ [T] <+login> *palm
[10:49:42] tr_ [T] <+login> That is the best thing about free software: one can fix it oneself
[10:50:07] tr_ [T] <+login> Software provides near infinite leverage
[10:50:13] tr_ [T] <+login> The only barrier is time
[10:50:26] tr_ [T] <+login> the cost of one's time, as measured by their maintenance cost
[10:50:53] tr_ [T] <+login> e.g., how much makeup do you need per week, food, grooming, shelter, clothing, electricity, water etc.
[10:51:03] tr_ [T] <+login> !bang
[10:51:09] tr_ [T] <+login> !reload
[10:51:42] tr_ [T] <+login> on my current OS, palms are rejected but I can still move the cursor with one hand while typing with the other simultaneously
[10:52:16] tr_ [T] <+login> i don't want to disable the touchpad, jmjl (i am ~login btw)
[10:52:32] tr_ [T] <+login> i just want it to "work" well
[10:52:38] tr_ [T] <+login> yeah, it might just be a skill issue
[10:52:59] tr_ [T] <+login> you're surprised?
[10:53:10] tr_ [T] <+login> yeah, that's cool jmjl
[10:53:30] tr_ [T] <+login> not much annoying?
[10:53:54] tr_ [T] <+login> Here's another thing I've tried: using the palm to move the mouse
[10:54:05] tr_ [T] <+login> it just doesn't move the mouse at all on my current OS
[10:54:19] tr_ [T] <+login> but using that Synaptics driver, it definitely would have
[12:21:39] tr_ [T] <+login> Another highly biased article, but worth reading things from those with the opposite bias: https://medium.com/@slkanthan2030/secrets-of-chinas-economic-growth-cc8b7ac10f6e
[12:26:32] tr_ [T] <+login> The June 4th incident (tank man) happened in 1989
[12:27:48] tr_ [T] <+login> mao zedong had died only 2 years before 1978
[12:34:30] tr_ [T] <+login> > Similarly, China is poised to surpass Germany this year as the world’s second largest exporter of cars. -- this is due to Elon Musk
[12:45:32] tr_ [T] <+login> Kowal: very
[12:46:38] tr_ [T] <+login> the same article was posted by the same author on substack
[12:46:52] tr_ [T] <+login> and there is a chart copied from The Economist with no attribution
[12:47:23] tr_ [T] <+login> a map showing the countries coloured by their largest trade partner
[12:47:33] tr_ [T] <+login> in 2000 vs the present
[12:48:37] tr_ [T] <+login> The problem with them is hierarchy - the higher-ups will take credit their reports' innovation
[13:44:14] tr_ [T] <+login> It's because the transmission of knowledge from one generation to the next is suboptimal
[13:47:35] tr_ [T] <+login> It's actually quite hard to run even a McDonald's successfully
[13:48:06] tr_ [T] <+login> you can't control the recipe or anything... the only thing you can control is location, and even there, the franchisee has to pay rent to the McDonald's Corporation
[13:48:18] tr_ [T] <+login> and make all suitable employment decisions
[14:09:13] tr_ [T] <+login> irish666: oh no
[14:09:24] tr_ [T] <+login> that was poor on their part
[14:11:13] tr_ [T] <+login> They say healthcare is a calling
[14:11:38] tr_ [T] <+login> And that doctors want you to heal well enough to never come back
[14:12:58] tr_ [T] <+login> Do they teach about how to prescribe it at school?
[14:15:54] tr_ [T] <+login> Their licensure might be affected if they misprescribe
[14:17:22] tr_ [T] <+login> So they're taking a political view on it
[14:19:41] tr_ [T] <+login> The doctor can tell if the prescription is bogus or legitimate, can't they? From patient history
[14:20:06] tr_ [T] <+login> Are they supporting prohibition without actually wanting to prohibit it?
[14:21:03] tr_ [T] <+login> !bang
[14:21:12] tr_ [T] <+login> Codeine is much worse
[14:21:40] tr_ [T] <+login> System is broken if they don't go through the board for codeine beyond a certain minimum
[14:21:47] tr_ [T] <+login> or outside of emergency
[14:22:22] tr_ [T] <+login> So many horror stories with morphine
[14:22:44] tr_ [T] <+login> ^ yeah
[14:23:12] tr_ [T] <+login> ^ True
[14:23:22] tr_ [T] <+login> But the chronic back pain one should go through a board
[14:23:37] tr_ [T] <+login> outpatient usage of codeine and morphine should go through a board
[14:24:46] tr_ [T] <+login> Are the doctors sophisticated enough to mask the numbers well?
[14:25:08] tr_ [T] <+login> If it happens at a systematic level, it should show up in the statistics
[14:25:24] tr_ [T] <+login> But the lobbying is too powerful
[14:25:39] tr_ [T] <+login> to make the regulator look at and question it
[14:26:53] tr_ [T] <+login> I thought it was just disallowed
[14:27:32] tr_ [T] <+login> They were incentivised to not prescribe cannabis by the pharmacy?
[14:28:21] tr_ [T] <+login> The whole enterprise seems to have the effect of reducing trust in the medical prescription system
[14:29:26] tr_ [T] <+login> Why doesn't it get reviewed when it has such a reputation
[14:29:57] tr_ [T] <+login> So it was psychosis?
[14:30:07] tr_ [T] <+login> caused by tramadol?
[14:30:40] tr_ [T] <+login> So max 2?
[14:31:05] tr_ [T] <+login> I hear some good doctors ask their patients about the prescription after a couple of weeks
[14:31:31] tr_ [T] <+login> And gain an on-the-ground understanding of how often it works
[14:32:03] tr_ [T] <+login> seizures, hallucinations, why even keep it in the market?
[14:32:30] tr_ [T] <+login> Once the pharma company has put billions into commercialisation, there is such a strong need for it to work
[14:33:06] tr_ [T] <+login> Why is there no feedback review system like there was for vaccine side-effects?
[14:34:02] tr_ [T] <+login> Can it still be prescribed if one is suffering from those? It shouldn't be
[14:34:11] tr_ [T] <+login> I used to get migranes too
[14:34:18] tr_ [T] <+login> They called it 'textbook' migrane
[14:34:32] tr_ [T] <+login> Mine was fixed too, i don't know if it has to do with food or something else
[14:34:59] tr_ [T] <+login> It didn't take a week for it to go, maybe a couple of days
[14:35:31] tr_ [T] <+login> I used to just press my head and use balm
[14:35:36] tr_ [T] <+login> the one that stings
[14:35:59] tr_ [T] <+login> Does it show up on those?
[14:36:36] tr_ [T] <+login> Hmm, I don't know if i had those
[14:36:53] tr_ [T] <+login> It could be blood clots, mine used to modulate in pain with my heart beat
[14:37:08] tr_ [T] <+login> If I held my breath, it would subside
[14:37:20] tr_ [T] <+login> ^ but by heart was still beating, wasn't it?
[14:37:51] tr_ [T] <+login> I should have checked that, never checked blood pressure during the migraine
[14:38:08] tr_ [T] <+login> They made a bad assumption - they should have asked
[14:38:46] tr_ [T] <+login> differential diagnosis, isn't it?
[14:39:13] tr_ [T] <+login> Maybe the headache is actually a microstroke, who knows
[14:44:45] tr_ [T] <+login> Pretty difficult way to live i imagine
[17:50:55] tr_ [T] <+login> I remember the days of dialup when being always online was just not affordable
[17:51:08] tr_ [T] <+login> turn on internet, do your internet work, turn off internet - that's how it was
[17:54:00] tr_ [T] <+login> !bang
[17:55:07] tr_ [T] <+login> How much climate change will these forest fires cause? That's a LOT of carbon turning into CO2 and other stuff
[18:01:23] tr_ [T] <+login> It's terrible that fires in Canada are raging so much that even northern US air quality is so deeply affected
[18:04:06] tr_ [T] <+login> Does the wind flow that way?
[18:04:39] tr_ [T] <+login> There is a pattern to it, depending on the latitude (due to the sun) + the earth's rotation
[18:04:53] tr_ [T] <+login> but those are high up in the air i think
[18:05:42] tr_ [T] <+login> If the fire is hot in Canada, then air should be moving from around the area into the fire
[18:11:57] tr_ [T] <+login> lol, implying Mikoolo?
[18:12:30] tr_ [T] <+login> lol, implying (Mikoolo)?
[18:12:52] tr_ [T] <+login> lol Mikoolo, implying?
[18:13:23] tr_ [T] <+login> lol... implying?
[18:14:00] tr_ [T] <+login> lol, implying?
[18:14:20] tr_ [T] <+login> Yes, English.
[18:15:06] tr_ [T] <+login> It's the only language I know well enough, so I might also just be learning to communicate better.
[18:16:53] tr_ [T] <+login> I did not imagine Pawn Stars would know how to value Nintendo games
[18:17:02] tr_ [T] <+login> surprising
[18:21:10] tr_ [T] <+login> You could join TechNet and find out
[18:21:35] tr_ [T] <+login> tbh, wouldn't anyone be happy to have a boyfriend like ComputerTech? Young, carefree and smooth?
[18:23:17] tr_ [T] <+login> He's in a business family, being nice opens doors
[18:23:23] tr_ [T] <+login> especially to those that others aren't nice to
[18:23:35] tr_ [T] <+login> Oh yeah, forgot about that
[18:23:41] tr_ [T] <+login> he's tres mignon
[18:24:29] tr_ [T] <+login> I would be wary of crossing him, or making him angry - would be hard to tell
[18:24:51] tr_ [T] <+login> the kinder he is, the more reserved one must be with him
[18:25:08] tr_ [T] <+login> there is so little information on what his boundaries are
[18:25:29] tr_ [T] <+login> he won't even drop hints on his boundaries in conversation
[18:26:13] tr_ [T] <+login> !bang
[18:26:33] tr_ [T] <+login> oh hey, you bought liability insurance
[18:26:39] tr_ [T] <+login> !rearm herald
[18:26:47] tr_ [T] <+login> ^ doesn't work over tr unfortunately
[18:36:41] tr_ [T] <+login> Mikoolo: now vietnamese tell chrome there is a security bug in their software and get a payout
[18:39:52] tr_ [T] <+login> north korean special forces are more impressive
[18:52:28] tr_ [T] <+login> make saving a hobby
[19:07:51] tr_ [T] <+login> alpine linux
[19:08:02] tr_ [T] <+login> no key?
[19:08:04] tr_ [T] <+login> !bang
[19:08:46] tr_ [T] <+login> how is the spanish nje?
[19:09:40] tr_ [T] <+login> is it not like nokia?
[19:09:46] tr_ [T] <+login> but like news?
[19:10:53] tr_ [T] <+login> whole family or alone?
[19:11:58] tr_ [T] <+login> mum and two sons sounds good
[19:12:38] tr_ [T] <+login> toma toes
[19:13:08] tr_ [T] <+login> deadly: only i got your humour
[19:14:13] tr_ [T] <+login> in europe<--
[19:14:22] tr_ [T] <+login> it would be mao if - in the world
[19:15:49] tr_ [T] <+login> why is germany so wealthy?
[19:16:22] tr_ [T] <+login> belarus
[19:16:41] tr_ [T] <+login> hungary?
[19:17:07] tr_ [T] <+login> turkey?
[19:18:02] tr_ [T] <+login> which eastern european country is rich in weapons, tanks and artillery? moldova?
[19:36:49] tr_ [T] <+login> but his mum is with him
[19:37:08] tr_ [T] <+login> no way is he going to a polish brothel or anything like that
[19:39:10] tr_ [T] <+login> and leave their mum alone? is it even worth that?
[19:39:53] tr_ [T] <+login> someone has to look after the business after all
[19:40:52] tr_ [T] <+login> how good is the GBP PLN exchange rate, i imagine...
[19:41:15] tr_ [T] <+login> Poland is a conservative Christian society, is it not?
[19:41:47] tr_ [T] <+login> And that's where the most notorious camp was too
[19:42:06] tr_ [T] <+login> heineken?
[19:42:16] tr_ [T] <+login> too woke?
[19:42:46] tr_ [T] <+login> which german beer brand has not been bought by InBev?
[19:43:12] tr_ [T] <+login> These are good examples
[19:43:20] tr_ [T] <+login> I mean that genuinely
[19:44:08] tr_ [T] <+login> Do they try tweaking it?
[19:44:38] tr_ [T] <+login> Tweaking the brewing while keeping the same brand seems like a recipe for disaster
[19:45:23] tr_ [T] <+login> is it Turkish for 'rum'?
[19:45:31] tr_ [T] <+login> ooh
[20:07:27] tr_ [T] <+login> PapaFrog: you have one drink, they don't call you a teetotaler
[20:08:35] tr_ [T] <+login> enjoying life, Chiester?
[20:09:12] tr_ [T] <+login> you're allowed to drink at those? i thought you couldn't
[20:09:50] tr_ [T] <+login> oh, so there's no 'don't dress 18+ unnecessarily' rule?
[20:10:25] tr_ [T] <+login> full latex is alright though
[20:11:17] tr_ [T] <+login> have fun Chiester, don't go overboard lol
[20:14:31] tr_ [T] <+login> + = voiced
[20:14:40] tr_ [T] <+login> <login> = nickname
[20:15:07] tr_ [T] <+login> Who else used it?
[20:15:25] tr_ [T] <+login> Yeah, it was one other person
[20:42:27] tr_ [S] <@Dragon> o
[20:57:39] tr_ [T] <+login> nice link, Frogorg
[21:04:05] tr_ [T] <+login> how far do you need to get back?
[21:04:18] tr_ [T] <+login> you're recording YT videos of yourself getting back to calculus?
[21:04:28] tr_ [T] <+login> multivariable or single variable?
[21:04:45] tr_ [T] <+login> vector calculus can be difficult, once you get there
[21:05:04] tr_ [T] <+login> You have to start with limits
[21:05:07] tr_ [T] <+login> and continuity
[21:05:21] tr_ [T] <+login> You're a high-school teacher?
[21:05:39] tr_ [T] <+login> Are you going back to it? Teaching?
[21:05:51] tr_ [T] <+login> Are you alright with trigonometry?
[21:06:39] tr_ [T] <+login> for e.g., i forgot that the derivative of tan(x) was sec^2(x) (although it can be derived easily)
[21:07:08] tr_ [T] <+login> 3b1b does it well though
[21:07:36] tr_ [T] <+login> and PBS Infinite Series was doing math
[21:07:46] tr_ [T] <+login> DSP using the z-transform?
[21:07:55] tr_ [T] <+login> maybe he'll cover it eventually
[21:07:59] tr_ [T] <+login> he's getting pretty close to it
[21:08:14] tr_ [T] <+login> How LTE works could be a very big video series
[21:08:40] tr_ [T] <+login> Esjay: how do you find 3b1b?
[21:09:26] tr_ [T] <+login> The thing that really amazed me was how the uncertainty principle was just mathematically expressed as that only the fourier transform of an infinite sinusoid can be a single frequency
[21:10:01] tr_ [T] <+login> i.e., if the sinusoid is of a certain length of time, it cannot have just a single frequency
[21:10:24] tr_ [T] <+login> and how that was equivalent to position-momentum uncertainty
[21:11:21] tr_ [T] <+login> A full explanation of how something on your phone works from photon emitted (result) to touch input
[21:11:33] tr_ [T] <+login> that would take up a 50+ hour series if you had to explain every component
[21:11:39] tr_ [T] <+login> LTE would be a subseries of that
[21:12:29] tr_ [T] <+login> TIL what turbinates are
[21:13:15] tr_ [T] <+login> !bang
[21:13:17] tr_ [T] <+login> !relaod
[21:13:19] tr_ [T] <+login> !reload
[21:13:21] tr_ [T] <+login> !bang
[21:13:28] tr_ [T] <+login> thank you, Dento
[21:13:45] tr_ [T] <+login> sorry to hear that wof
[21:14:24] tr_ [T] <+login> Yeah, they were 'brave' to remove the Save button
[21:14:31] tr_ [T] <+login> even made a LinkedIn Learning series on it
[21:14:57] tr_ [T] <+login> wof: check if there is a backup excel file
[21:15:19] tr_ [T] <+login> I'd be surprised if Box can do well without integrating with MS Office itself
[21:15:51] tr_ [T] <+login> Saving it and doing it again will yield a better result, because of the time crunch
[21:15:58] tr_ [T] <+login> save as xlsv first
[21:16:14] tr_ [T] <+login> tbh Excel should warn you if your colours are not getting saved... big oversight on their part
[21:16:41] tr_ [T] <+login> Maybe the temporary save file (for recovery) is still there with all the colours
[21:17:51] tr_ [T] <+login> Frogorg: do you look forward to the time when AI can create that video for you, in an editable format, just from your prompt about the idea?
[21:18:01] tr_ [T] <+login> It won't come soon
[21:18:22] tr_ [T] <+login> i assume no non-encrypted backups, then?
[21:18:55] tr_ [T] <+login> That would have been quite some work
[21:19:10] tr_ [T] <+login> If you also had to set up the on-prem hashicorp vault
[21:19:59] tr_ [T] <+login> So their passwords are in an on-prem hashicorp vault now?
[21:20:42] tr_ [T] <+login> so it's still on the internet
[21:21:14] tr_ [T] <+login> and how do they store their aws credentials, i wonder
[21:21:20] tr_ [T] <+login> ;) lol
[21:21:36] tr_ [T] <+login> you are joking obviously
[21:21:57] tr_ [T] <+login> 2fa using sms or phone app?
[21:22:06] tr_ [T] <+login> or physical totp?
[21:22:38] tr_ [T] <+login> that is cool
[21:23:45] tr_ [T] <+login> i'm surprised nobody at microsoft has ever had this excel colour unsaved thing happen to them
[21:25:08] tr_ [T] <+login> The right idea would have been to create a new column for it
[21:26:01] tr_ [T] <+login> didn't know google drive supported rclone
[21:26:03] tr_ [T] <+login> !bang
[21:26:06] tr_ [T] <+login> !reload
[21:27:01] tr_ [T] <+login> but have a hook to check if passwords are being saved before anything gets uploaded to a github server?
[21:28:00] tr_ [T] <+login> github
[21:28:11] tr_ [T] <+login> you can still use a login, but you have to make an app password for it
[21:29:19] tr_ [T] <+login> it's not that dumb, but key management is less ideal
[21:29:30] tr_ [T] <+login> it's not like everybody uses yubikeys or anything like that
[21:29:45] tr_ [T] <+login> and per-device keys that don't expire = a different kind of pain
[22:01:21] tr_ [T] <+ChanRank> (ChanRank): h4 is an idler or unknown...
[22:21:42] tr_ [T] <+login> at least she went to bed relatively on time
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