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Saturday, March 30, 2024

[02:06:41] ski cba : "Compiling" <https://xkcd.com/303/>

[02:35:47] ski ("bye <esjay> see you soon" -- huh ? .. it's not IRC custom to adorn nicknames with sigils (like `@', or in this case angle brackets), when you want to refer to someone. in fact, using angle brackets, it looks like you're quoting something they said)

[02:38:40] ski Darw1nMethod : the "No man: <esjay> Write a function [..]" one was fine (or ok, at least), since that was actually a quote

[02:40:07] ski you don't like HP sauce ?

[02:40:27] ski DuckHunt doesn't recognize the bridge, now ?

[02:40:45] ski surprised, since it used to

[02:41:38] ski Darw1nMethod : POKE 53280,0:POKE 53281,0

[02:42:36] ski ComputerTech : oh, i thought it also bridged to three-four other networks

[02:43:07] ski .. apparently this place is too dirty, even for a pig ?

[02:43:40] ski ComputerTech : istr, Libera, Freenode, DarkGnome, at least ?

[02:44:27] ski (back when the bridge displayed a full word for the network, not just a single letter)

[02:44:41] ski oh ..

[02:45:55] ski ever tried LabVIEW, Darw1nMethod ?

[02:46:17] ski it's also visual, it's as if you're constructing circuit diagrams

[02:47:27] ski those LLMs are prone to bullshitting and hallucinating, for moderately intricate stuff

[02:49:20] ski better tag nsfw, srx47

[02:50:36] ski kot : better for that (for managability) would be some form of higher-order abstraction, or meta-programming

[02:51:58] ski "it is a very good technology for any developer" -- maybe for an already pretty experienced one. i think not that much for a less one (like a beginner), since you don't have the background to tell it off for its bullshit

[02:53:44] ski "they have already surpassed human parity and can give data and write complex technical processes" -- doubting this. they don't have common sense, also aren't rational (in an autopoetic sense, desiring and caring for self-correction), rather than a more narrow intellect

[02:55:14] ski "it would be hypothetically easier for someone who doesn't know any metalangs" -- and consequently worse for managability (or even correctness, and quite possibly also efficiency/performance) of the code

[02:55:47] ski not pixel art, srx47

[02:56:51] ski "i dont trust humans to generate any actual logic" -- that's also valid, generally speaking. but we have (somewhat working) vetting processes

[02:57:19] ski pixel art is generally understood to be hand-pixellated

[02:58:20] ski srx47 : e.g. <http://girls.c64.org/a__girls64.php> (NSFW)

[02:59:50] ski ComputerTech : well, that doesn't count, as it's obviously scanned/converted

[03:01:11] ski (including a cog. sci. researcher)

[03:02:28] ski (<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWvsoJ--Xt4>, fwiw, with John Vervaeke,Jonathan Pageau,Derek C. Schindler, in 2024-03-09)

[03:05:32] ski kot : anyway, i don't like "wizards" (e.g. GUI) auto-generating code, either, for similar reasons. the "source code" here really is the interactions in the wizard, but those are not recorded as source, only their output is

[03:16:07] ski `apt' is something in Debian

[03:41:38] ski Darw1nMethod : he's quite enjoyable, when you're in the mood

[03:45:22] ski Darw1nMethod : e.g. "Na Man Behooda Girde" (lyrics by Rumi)

[03:52:02] ski it's way past midnight

[03:53:12] ski nn

[03:55:03] ski that's a shiny small blowtorch

[03:59:52] ski (tea)

[04:16:27] ski /me looks at Darw1nMethod

[04:17:56] ski Darw1nMethod : called an ACTION, typically used in *third* person, to describe something you do, or describe some property of yourself

[04:28:31] ski hm, i think Kitboga (?) went to India to try to track down some scammer

[04:31:32] ski crack another game

[05:02:53] ski hm, wasn't Akbar a Mogul emperor ?

[05:03:39] ski yea, but i believe it can be a personal name, too

[05:05:37] ski hm, isn't "Kabir" feminine form ?

[05:06:35] ski ahkdar / khadra, ahmar / hamra, abyad / bayda, asfar / safra

[05:06:43] ski (green, red, white, yellow, iirc)

[05:07:15] ski hm, but shouldn't it be "kabra", then ?

[05:07:29] ski no, the colors just have masculine and feminine forms

[05:07:34] ski just like other adjectives

[05:07:55] ski "al-hamra" in Spain (al-Andalus) means "the red"

[05:08:19] ski also, "safra" is the same word as the spice "saffron", which is yellow

[05:08:42] ski there's a monastery in eastern Turkey named deyr al-saffran (the yellow)

[05:09:40] ski (i probably visited, briefly, at some point, when i was collecting channels about a particular topic)

[05:12:34] ski (first time i saw IRC, was some girl in the school library computer room, happily chatting away in turkish, on mIRC)

[05:15:49] ski Darw1nMethod : "mIRC ended its lifetime license agreement with all who purchased its software 10 years out",2022-12-04,<https://www.pocnetwork.net/internet-news/mirc-ended-its-lifetime-license-agreement-with-all-who-purchased-its-software-10-years-out/>,<https://www.reddit.com/r/irc/comments/zgy9jl/mirc_ended_its_lifetime_license_agreement_with/>

[05:17:22] ski (nagware version)

[05:17:32] ski registered ?

[05:18:21] ski but first IRC client i used (apart from trying out, just one time, very briefly, at brother's), was ircII (terminal client, rather basic)

[05:19:03] ski ditto, cba

[05:19:19] ski Cygwin +

[05:19:21] ski ah

[05:19:42] ski who, or what, is Coldplay ?

[05:19:58] ski ah .. ic

[05:20:43] ski oh .. didn't know it was the name of a song

[05:21:09] ski cba : another band

[05:21:28] ski .. now i'm reminded of a tune called "Turkish towel"

[05:24:41] ski re Frogorg

[05:25:33] ski grungebarbie : ah, the 1984 one :)

[05:26:33] ski cba : you like the bread ?

[05:27:28] ski is it thin, two layers, like lebanese, or armenian (which has bubbles), or is it thicker, like syrian/assyrian ?

[05:27:32] ski or other ?

[05:27:54] ski (my mom used to bake Lahmo)

[05:28:09] ski yea, probably similar to the syrian, then (Lahmo)

[05:44:29] ski nejdaja

[05:52:01] ski my classmate had a dad who worked at a chemical plant. one time he and his dad made nitroglycerine, for fun, and went out in the forest and blew up a tree

[05:53:33] ski one older brother of mine also made some kind of liquid chemical substance, put in on the bike chain of a teacher, let it dry. when the teacher started pedalling, it went "poof/bang", repeatedly (not severe enough to cut the chain or hurt anyone, just loud noises and puffs)

[05:54:57] ski hm, and my mothermother who was a teacher, once prepared a chemical experiment in school, where you were supposed to put a piece of carbide (i think ?) into water, making a flame. but the instructions didn't say how much. so, she took a reasonable enough chunk .. and the huge flame licked the ceiling. she never tried that experiment again

[05:58:38] ski hm, never heard of piranha solution

[05:59:50] ski are you supposed to slowly pour the sulphuric acid into the other one, while stirring ?

[06:00:28] ski i think i've heard something similar, but i think the other solution was water, or something else

[06:00:38] ski (well, minus the botching part)

[06:05:28] ski lentils and rice being among the dishes, presumably

[06:07:52] ski ouch :(

[06:08:42] ski only had brown rice, when visiting syrians/assyrians, when i was growing up .. so it felt exotic, to me

[06:09:09] ski (also dried chickpeas. they had it, together with pistaccios, &c., at a wedding)

[06:09:46] ski i'd guess it has more vitamins, perhaps other nutrients or minerals ?

[06:10:22] ski (not particularly fond of cooked chickpeas, though. can eat them, if they're mixed with other stuff, in a stew or something)

[19:16:52] ski you were isolating ?

[19:16:55] ski mhm

[19:17:15] ski sounds thoughtful of them

[19:17:46] ski getting an excuse to meetup with family can be nice. .. also can be not nice, depending

[19:18:49] ski sorry to hear

[19:19:27] ski being able to be content, while alone, is a useful skill. still, socializing can also be nice and useful

[19:20:10] ski can for sure help

[19:20:41] ski but going out, face-to-face, in some kind of social setting, can also help

[19:23:40] ski (sometimes i just sat in the sofa, reading or writing. sometimes i participated a bit in conversations. sometimes i went around, looking to see if anyone fixing their bike needed advice or help. there were also a "solidarity fridge" there, which usually also had bread and pastries (expired for the day, but usually just fine), so we could munch on something now and then. and a hacker/maker space,

[19:23:46] ski electronics (and welding) equipment, a sewing room, &c. .. as i said, it was a nice environment to just hang out in)

[19:25:10] ski i suppose you have projects and stuff to keep you engaged

[19:25:25] ski how did it go, freewifi ?

[19:26:08] ski a majority of things humans engage with are probable human made

[19:27:14] ski freewifi : perhaps you'd become more confident, and also knowing better what you wanted and not wanted, so that you could go into the social thing with clearer goals and stances for engagement

[19:28:08] ski irish666 : curious design

[19:28:46] ski yea, got that

[19:29:27] ski sometimes, one can help a community better, by standing apart from it, at least for a while

[19:30:40] ski (what with hermits, monks/nuns, shamans, &c.)

[19:30:58] ski cozy cat, phonekait

[19:34:23] ski (right. forgot to say that having the social thing be a choice, where one can choose to disengage, if/when appropriate, also helps)

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