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[01:47:04] Astra hello
[01:48:04] Krumar Hello Astra
[01:48:12] Astra how are you?
[01:48:27] Krumar Happy it's Friday, how about you?
[01:49:10] Astra im doing good?
[01:49:19] Krumar I am pretty exicted for KDE to add per output virtual desktop switching.
[01:49:48] ~ End3r I read about that
[01:49:49] Krumar I've wanted that for a while, it will make some of the presentations I do much better/smoother.
[01:49:57] ~ End3r I wish we had that on cinnamon desktop
[01:50:29] Astra are you a person?
[01:50:37] Krumar I think I understood that it could duplicate desktops across screens, if it can do that, it will be pretty awesome when used on a projector.
[01:50:49] ~ End3r who?
[01:50:49] Krumar I am infact a person, right now I am a hungry person.
[01:51:22] Astra krumar you seem odd
[01:51:22] ~ End3r lol
[01:51:28] Krumar End3r: what draws you to cinnamon?
[01:51:38] ~ End3r It's simple and fast
[01:51:41] Krumar :-(
[01:51:46] Astra im running fedora linux i hate that its arch but yeah
[01:51:49] ~ End3r I am not into ricing my desktop
[01:52:14] ~ End3r I have a decently powerful system, but no need for what I do
[01:52:26] Krumar I like lightweight but I feel like KDE is getting done what I need pretty well.
[01:52:41] ~ End3r kde is pretty, but super bloated
[01:53:00] Krumar I have set a turned off all the animations and set loading to instant.
[01:53:26] Krumar I'm trying to use KDE with no animations.
[01:53:52] ~ End3r my de is minimal
[01:54:30] Krumar It does look nice.
[01:54:52] ~ End3r I like it minimal and functional
[01:55:03] Phoenix looking good End3r :)
[01:55:07] ~ End3r so I can concentrate on what I need to
[01:55:17] * End3r pets Phoenix
[01:55:20] ~ End3r wait
[01:55:25] Krumar Do you use virtual desktops?
[01:55:25] ~ End3r .access list Phoenix
[01:55:32] Astra wait whats a good linux distro that runs games good is debian and is not going to make me suffer and is stable
[01:55:39] ~ End3r Phoenix how are you not opped in here?
[01:55:48] ~ End3r .access add Phoenix 5
[01:55:51] ~ End3r .sync
[01:55:51] * devbox set mode +o Phoenix
[01:55:51] * devbox set mode +v based
[01:56:03] @ Phoenix haha all good mate .. I never needed to be :)
[01:56:18] ~ End3r I know but respect homie ;)
[01:57:01] ~ End3r thx Krumar
[01:57:01] Krumar End3r: what distro are you running cinnamon on?
[01:57:13] @ Phoenix Thanks mate
[01:57:20] ~ End3r meg, it's the 25x branch of ubuntu
[01:57:24] ~ End3r meh*
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[01:57:43] ~ End3r was testing it and never switched back to debian
[01:57:52] ~ End3r I usually use vanilla debian
[01:57:58] ~ End3r but I like this
[01:58:32] ~ End3r my shed aio still is on vanilla deb 13
[01:58:38] ~ End3r my laptop too
[01:58:42] * glitchy set mode -v based
[01:59:31] @ Phoenix I kept debian for the most part .. ubuntu changes stuff too much for my main system.. always having to fix something on every update
[01:59:50] Krumar I just looked up Cinnamon, now I remember a bit more about it. I started off with Ubuntu and gnome and I loved it back in the early 2000's . I never thought I woud get onto KDE. I think I was not happy when Cinnamon startd off.
[02:00:16] ~ End3r Krumar Linux Mint devs it
[02:00:22] ~ End3r it is their main DE
[02:01:05] Krumar Thats what im remebering now, I was big into Mint for a while
[02:01:17] ~ End3r yeah, their baby
[02:01:46] ~ End3r almost tempted to reload the latest mint on here to play with the latest version
[02:02:00] ~ End3r I keep my homedir on another drive, so
[02:02:27] Krumar smart
[02:02:49] ~ End3r daily backups to a nas
[02:02:54] ~ End3r so I'm good
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[02:03:06] ~ End3r and network is enterprise gear
[02:03:12] Krumar You're above and beyond
[02:03:25] ~ End3r well, I am an admin for a MSP
[02:03:58] Krumar Do you get to use Linux at work?
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[02:04:18] ~ End3r We are finishing up a new complex for a city. City hall, police, fire, water
[02:04:33] ~ End3r all out equipment
[02:04:35] ~ End3r our
[02:05:09] ~ End3r Krumar sometimes, I have to use my windows 11 laptop for technical stuff as how locked down we are
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[02:05:40] Astra beep
[02:05:40] ~ End3r 99% of clients use windows
[02:05:44] ~ End3r 1% use macs
[02:06:02] Astra uhh End3r you forgot linux
[02:06:08] ~ End3r no I didn't
[02:06:18] ~ End3r I said the correct stats
[02:06:44] ~ End3r I manage like 2500 machines, I think 1 is linux
[02:06:56] ~ End3r but
[02:07:15] Krumar I see so many places where I feel like Linux would be a great fit but I know I wouldn't be able to teach people.
[02:07:22] ~ End3r then again, the online servvices I manage for them like 365 or google etc.. is all run on linux so
[02:07:44] Krumar I work for an MSP as well.
[02:07:56] ~ End3r then you feel my pain
[02:08:03] Krumar Probably
[02:08:46] ~ End3r people are so fucking stupid
[02:09:15] ~ End3r I learned that from working my job, I mean, I knew it, but goddamn
[02:09:41] Krumar One of my clients has a medical record program that uses openoffice to compose client letters which I think is awesome but that's about all I see with opensource in the workplace.
[02:09:41] ~ End3r people are so dumb
[02:10:04] Krumar I feel like they are mostly lazy, they just want to blame problems on the computer.
[02:10:28] ~ End3r well yeah, they are lazy
[02:10:47] Astra whats a good channel?
[02:10:52] ~ End3r Astra for?
[02:10:55] Krumar That's where I feel like I get a good bit of frustration, they tell their supervisors / boss that they can't do something because of the computer and then it's my fault they couldn't get something done.
[02:11:06] Astra just a good channel that i can talk on
[02:11:20] ~ End3r Astra #chat and #computertech are alot of fun
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[02:28:11] zer0s windowmaker is legit. Love it
[02:28:42] * glitchy set mode +v zer0s
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[02:28:50] + zer0s gui on 512mb of ram. with modern security updates :D
[02:31:21] ~ End3r lol
[02:32:29] + zer0s Ender you don't understand, I was using cli only on this computer. It was nice, but I occasionally have to do GUI things
[02:33:02] + zer0s 6 split tmux sessions is works for 95% of my use cases
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[02:33:09] + zer0s *sessions work
[02:33:10] Krumar I've wanted to try to use just command line on a computer
[02:33:17] + zer0s Krumar: you should
[02:33:26] Krumar I feel like it would knock out a lot of distractions for me.
[02:33:34] + zer0s it 100% does
[02:34:00] ~ End3r ooh I understand
[02:34:00] + zer0s I definitely noticed that pictures and videos have been distracting me all this time
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[02:34:25] ~ End3r I used to do pure cli
[02:34:42] Krumar I'm guilty of scrollling through videos.
[02:35:16] ~ End3r every day
[02:35:19] ~ End3r :P
[02:35:30] + zer0s hmmm same, on my phone definitely
[02:36:09] + zer0s its why I force myself to go to this tiny mini computer that is basically outdated in terms of performance and memory by at least 20 years
[02:36:47] Krumar I enjoy working on machines like that, it's awesome to get actual use out of a device that would be 20 years out of date.
[02:36:58] + zer0s way more enjoyable than I thought it had any right to be
[02:37:14] + zer0s technically its a machine that came out 3 or so years ago but the performance competes with stuff thats 20 years old
[02:37:30] Krumar What are the machine specs?
[02:37:58] + zer0s 1ghz max (600mhz idle), 512mb of ram, and 128gb storage
[02:38:10] + zer0s quad core at least
[02:38:12] Krumar Until fairly recently, I was using a laptop that was manufactured somewhere around 2011 or so, it had a dual core processor.
[02:38:22] + zer0s nice
[02:38:26] + zer0s i love old hardware
[02:38:30] Krumar Sorry, I meant to say Intel Core 2 Duo or whatever it was.
[02:38:36] + zer0s no worries
[02:38:56] Krumar Have you ever looked at Tiny Core Linux?
[02:39:00] ~ End3r CPU: 8-core AMD Ryzen 7 5800H with Radeon Graphics (-MT MCP-)
[02:39:00] ~ End3r speed/min/max: 3167/403/3201 MHz Kernel: 6.17.0-20-generic x86_64 Up: 4d 8h 3m
[02:39:00] ~ End3r Mem: 11.17/23.39 GiB (47.7%) Storage: 2.32 TiB (17.7% used) Procs: 538
[02:39:00] ~ End3r Shell: Bash inxi: 3.3.39
[02:39:04] + zer0s Krumar: yep
[02:39:11] + zer0s this is tinier
[02:39:23] ~ End3r this is a mini pc
[02:39:28] Krumar I have some thin clients that I want to try using Tiny Core on.
[02:39:39] + zer0s End3r: true
[02:39:50] + zer0s i guess i'm really talking to you from a tiny pc
[02:39:53] + zer0s :p
[02:40:13] + zer0s technology is super impressive
[02:40:17] ~ End3r lol
[02:40:23] + zer0s $15 computer, love it
[02:40:28] ~ End3r zero you talk like my boss
[02:40:35] + zer0s hahah
[02:40:43] ~ End3r millenial?
[02:40:49] + zer0s won't say :D
[02:40:57] ~ End3r I will take that as a yes
[02:41:00] ~ End3r :P
[02:41:01] Krumar One of my goals is, one day, to get something like a VT220 hooked up to my computer and run off of that for a while.
[02:41:03] + zer0s lelz
[02:41:39] ~ End3r my brain hurts
[02:41:55] + zer0s too much weed?
[02:42:06] ~ End3r gonna have one mor ebeer then go to bed, wife has to have bloodwork done in the AM
[02:42:06] + zer0s too much work?
[02:42:06] + zer0s both?
[02:42:11] + zer0s ah
[02:42:27] ~ End3r DR thinks she las lupus
[02:42:27] + zer0s waking up early on the weekend sucks
[02:42:42] ~ End3r s/la/ha
[02:42:42] @ glitchy End3r meant to say: DR thinks she has lupus
[02:42:43] + zer0s how the fuck does anyone have lupus in this day and age
[02:42:52] ~ End3r she's sick af
[02:42:57] + zer0s brutal
[02:43:06] + zer0s i hope she's ok and your doctor is wrong
[02:43:06] Krumar I'm sorry to hear that.
[02:43:09] ~ End3r all kinds of auto immune issues
[02:43:14] Krumar I hope tomorrow has good news
[02:43:25] + zer0s same, I hope the best for your sake
[02:43:27] ~ End3r well, tomorrow is just blood work
[02:43:42] ~ End3r we have an appt at the mayo clinic in Jacksonville
[02:43:45] Krumar I hope that goes well too, I don't like giving blood.
[02:44:35] ~ End3r thx
[02:44:38] ~ End3r <3
[02:45:10] ~ End3r so yeah, you guys are stuck with me for at least 30minutes
[02:46:39] + zer0s no worries
[02:46:46] Krumar ha, I have one more to finish myself.
[02:46:52] Krumar One more beer.
[02:47:09] ~ End3r :D
[02:47:15] + zer0s End3r: what does your boss talk about btw?
[02:47:43] ~ End3r work shit, but has zero HR skills
[02:47:52] + zer0s ah
[02:48:05] ~ End3r I really love the dude, but sometime
[02:48:07] ~ End3r goddamn
[02:48:10] + zer0s lol
[02:48:15] + zer0s do you have to go into an office?
[02:48:19] ~ End3r I wanna punch him because he is an ass
[02:48:23] + zer0s lmfao
[02:48:35] + zer0s what does the guy say?
[02:48:37] ~ End3r no, I work from home. He lives a mile from me
[02:48:45] + zer0s oh what
[02:48:48] + zer0s that's too close
[02:48:49] + zer0s XD
[02:48:54] ~ End3r yeah, we are all remote
[02:49:05] ~ End3r and we all know each other
[02:49:08] + zer0s nice
[02:49:18] + zer0s I can't imagine going back into an office
[02:49:26] + zer0s everything counts as sexual harassment now
[02:49:36] ~ End3r well, it is just dudes
[02:49:46] ~ End3r so we call each other fags and what not
[02:49:52] ~ End3r :P
[02:50:00] ~ End3r our teams messages are wild
[02:50:02] + zer0s wow
[02:50:16] + zer0s you guys live in the 2000s over there
[02:50:20] ~ End3r wait
[02:50:24] ~ End3r lemme upload a ss
[02:50:27] ~ End3r lololololol
[02:50:27] + zer0s lol
[02:50:31] Astra beepis
[02:50:40] ~ End3r gotta edit it first though
[02:50:47] + zer0s no worries
[02:51:35] ~ End3r enjoy
[02:52:18] ~ End3r dude I laughed so fucking hard on that
[02:52:23] ~ End3r I thought I was gonna die
[02:52:43] Krumar Hahaahahhaha! I can't tell you how often I feel like the problem is not technology, it's someones just personality and life style.
[02:52:51] ~ End3r My wife read it and was like "How do you keep clients? wtf?"
[02:53:19] ~ End3r backstory Krumar
[02:53:30] ~ End3r yesterday I reset her pass like 5 or 6 times
[02:53:44] ~ End3r today I got 2 tickes about her password
[02:53:53] ~ End3r boss jumped in and took over
[02:54:03] + zer0s lol
[02:54:08] ~ End3r he's a bit of a micro manager
[02:54:16] + zer0s ugh that sucks
[02:54:27] ~ End3r well, from time to time
[02:54:33] ~ End3r depends on his work load
[02:54:41] Astra listening to music
[02:54:58] ~ End3r me too Astra
[02:55:00] Krumar I'm trying to remember some of the things I have had to do with older users to get a computer to work just one certain way for them becase they had no interest in learning anything, they just need mechanical directions to accomplish a tast.
[02:55:01] + zer0s i hate micromanagers
[02:55:10] @ glitchy [url] AmperWave Player | player.amperwave.net
[02:55:11] Astra End3r what type of music?
[02:55:15] ~ End3r vibing on this
[02:55:33] ~ End3r rock
[02:55:40] ~ End3r generic rock kinda
[02:55:46] ~ End3r think radio
[02:55:56] Krumar I need to start keeping a book with these things because I always blank when it's time to tell a story.
[02:56:33] ~ End3r lol
[02:56:41] Krumar I'm a big fan of just about everything I see in that playlist.
[02:57:00] ~ End3r someone somewhere posted that url
[02:57:10] ~ End3r been listening ever since
[02:57:22] ~ End3r yeah there are ads, but it is all at once
[02:57:22] Krumar I'm bookmarking it.
[02:57:38] ~ End3r like once every 30 minutes
[02:58:20] ~ End3r 3 or 4 commercials plus their station info
[02:58:40] ~ End3r so, better than most radio stations
[02:58:45] Krumar I don't have a problem with ads, I appriciate the free service.
[02:58:54] ~ End3r same
[02:59:01] ~ End3r plus I used to be one
[02:59:07] Krumar Gotta pay the bills some how while my free loading ass is taking up bandwidth.
[02:59:08] ~ End3r so I know how it works
[02:59:33] Krumar You used to work in a radio station?
[02:59:45] ~ End3r yeah, a couple
[02:59:50] + zer0s wow
[02:59:54] ~ End3r I was a dj and a producer
[02:59:55] + zer0s I didn't know that
[03:00:05] + zer0s did you like either ?
[03:00:06] ~ End3r technically, I am still a producer
[03:00:11] Krumar I had a friend who worked in a radio station, I got to "produce" 3 shows.
[03:00:20] ~ End3r I produce a podcast mon - fri
[03:00:34] ~ End3r 0500-0800
[03:00:47] + zer0s interesting
[03:00:59] ~ End3r and do my MSP from 0800 - 1400
[03:01:17] ~ End3r sorry 1500
[03:01:17] + zer0s MSP?
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[03:01:25] + Krumar Your up late if that is your day.
[03:01:25] * glitchy set mode +v Krumar
[03:01:29] ~ End3r glitchy explain what a msp is please
[03:01:34] @ glitchy MSP: Managed Service Provider—IT firm outsourcing client infra (servers/nets/desktops) w/ monitoring, backups, helpdesk, patches (e.g. RMM tools like ConnectWise/Ninja). End3r: ticket-slaying legend! `sudo systemctl status msp` ;-)
[03:02:15] + zer0s ohhh those are definitely getting more popular lately
[03:02:20] ~ End3r well, it's friday night here
[03:02:30] ~ End3r I do have to get up early though
[03:02:37] + zer0s oh no worries
[03:02:46] + zer0s hope everything goes alright at the doctor's
[03:02:52] ~ End3r :)
[03:02:55] ~ End3r fuck it
[03:02:59] ~ End3r one more beer
[03:03:02] ~ End3r :P
[03:03:13] + Krumar I have about a third of mine left.
[03:03:24] ~ End3r gotta quit after cause that's my last one
[03:03:30] + zer0s I've never been a beer drinker
[03:03:37] + zer0s cider, dry cider is my drink
[03:03:45] ~ End3r I was a liquor drinker in my 20's
[03:03:54] + Krumar I've never met a cider drinker before.
[03:03:59] ~ End3r I;m about to be 46 though so
[03:04:12] ~ End3r I love cider Krumar
[03:04:17] + zer0s :)
[03:04:30] + zer0s Krumar: the drier the better for me. So not sweet
[03:04:38] + Krumar I've had some ciders before but I guess I've just never had that much access to ciders.
[03:04:41] ~ End3r zer0s++
[03:04:41] @ glitchy 🆙 Karma boost! zer0s gained 1 karma ✨ (🎯 1 in #linux | 🌐 13 global)
[03:05:01] ~ End3r $magners Krumar
[03:05:01] * glitchy rolls a smooth Magners Rosé Cider 🌹🍎 down the bar to Krumar 🎳
[03:05:18] + zer0s ty
[03:05:19] + Krumar I can't do the sweets, I perfer dry by far, sweet gives me a headache.
[03:05:22] ~ End3r Krumar if you can find Magners, buy it
[03:05:28] + Krumar I'll make a note.
[03:05:38] ~ End3r glitchy what is magners ale? ;)
[03:06:01] @ glitchy Magners "ale"? Premium Irish cider (apples/yeast, no barley—cider ≠ ale!), 17 apple vars fermented/matured 2yrs for crisp/dry 4.5% refresh (Bulmers in IE/US: Magners). Sláinte Krumar! 🍎🍺 ;-)
[03:06:02] ~ End3r damnit, not ale
[03:06:04] + Krumar I do know that what I have enjoyed is an apple cider with some club soda and 2 shots of crown royal apple.
[03:06:10] ~ End3r it is a cider
[03:06:17] + Krumar I like that a lot.
[03:06:23] ~ End3r glitchy what is magners cider? ;)
[03:06:33] @ glitchy Magners Cider: 17 Irish apple varieties slow-fermented 2yrs in oak casks for crisp/dry refresh—4.5% ABV (Bulmers in IE/US). Perfection over ale! Sláinte End3r! 🍎🍺 ;-)
[03:06:54] ~ End3r soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood
[03:06:56] + zer0s Slainte
[03:07:06] ~ End3r good shit folks
[03:07:22] ~ End3r if you can find it
[03:07:30] ~ End3r hard to get in the states
[03:07:37] ~ End3r $w
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[03:08:09] + zer0s plenty of dry ciders out there, but they're not always stocked in the generic grocery stores
[03:08:10] ~ End3r $f
[03:08:10] @ glitchy 📅 4-Day Forecast · Lynn Haven, Florida
[03:08:10] @ glitchy 🌫️ Fri ↑28.3°C (83.0°F) ↓15.5°C (59.8°F) · ⛅ Sat ↑26.8°C (80.2°F) ↓16.1°C (60.9°F) · 🌤️ Sun ↑22.8°C (73.1°F) ↓15.7°C (60.2°F) · ☀️ Mon ↑26.8°C (80.2°F) ↓11.8°C (53.3°F)
[03:08:24] ~ End3r the drought continues =\
[03:08:30] + Krumar Do you have any names for any that are easy to get your hands on?
[03:08:53] ~ End3r lemme chack my phone. I have photos of some
[03:09:42] ~ End3r bold rock is decent
[03:10:20] ~ End3r wicked grove is also decent
[03:10:30] + Krumar I'm making my list.
[03:11:12] ~ End3r magners is the best
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[03:11:14] ~ End3r imho
[03:11:23] + zer0s :)
[03:11:39] + Krumar Did you have any recommendations zer0s?
[03:11:48] + zer0s Krumar: do you enjoy tart or acidic drinks?
[03:12:03] + Krumar I do, I just don't like sweet stuff.
[03:12:26] + Krumar I can have some but I have to be careful or I get a bad headache.
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[03:13:42] + zer0s I used to drink strongbow
[03:14:02] + zer0s I had to cut back on drinking because I was gaining weight lol
[03:14:19] ~ End3r wb phrost
[03:14:24] ~ End3r err Phoenix
[03:14:55] ~ End3r I drink entirely way too much cheap light beer
[03:15:36] + Krumar I've got a coors next to me right now. I do like IPAs, Stouts, and Porters, but sometimes you can't beat cheap.
[03:15:39] @ Phoenix Thanks End3r and stick to the heavies haha
[03:15:52] ~ End3r :P
[03:16:18] ~ End3r just killed a 15 pack of natty light :p
[03:16:22] + zer0s geez
[03:16:31] + zer0s I drink like a college freshman
[03:16:39] @ Phoenix ouch!
[03:16:45] + zer0s lol
[03:16:56] ~ End3r will deff shit my brains out in the morning
[03:16:59] + zer0s the always unexpected self-burn
[03:17:01] @ Phoenix I haven't touched beer for years .. yeast doesn't agree with me
[03:17:05] + Krumar I don't feel like I have the time to drink like that, finally it's friday so I can let loose a bit.
[03:17:13] + zer0s Phoenix: no bread either?
[03:17:53] @ Phoenix I am careful with break.. usually wraps instead and some of the gluten free
[03:18:07] + zer0s oh damn
[03:18:14] + zer0s bread is my favorite food
[03:18:32] ~ End3r my wife has a gluten allergy
[03:18:39] ~ End3r sucks so bad
[03:18:42] + zer0s damn
[03:18:43] ~ End3r soooo bad
[03:18:49] + zer0s is it severe?
[03:19:17] ~ End3r if gluten touches any of her food, shes on the toilet all night and gets no sleep
[03:19:23] + zer0s fuck
[03:19:27] Astra breathing only gets harder
[03:19:47] ~ End3r she broke down and cried on my shoulder 2 nights ago
[03:19:53] @ Phoenix yeah mine is not quite that bad but rashes & stomach pains..
[03:20:24] + zer0s I can't imagine
[03:20:38] ~ End3r she can eat european wheat though
[03:20:46] ~ End3r american? nah
[03:20:50] @ Phoenix *shrug* there's always things in this world that are tough to get through.. change of lifestyle mostly for me
[03:21:09] ~ End3r we did a test. our son in law is a pilot
[03:21:13] + zer0s european wheat?
[03:21:15] + zer0s o_O
[03:21:20] ~ End3r he brought some French bread back
[03:21:22] @ Phoenix End3r, that's interesting.. I obviously tried aus stuff but..
[03:21:27] ~ End3r she ate some
[03:21:32] ~ End3r perfectly fine
[03:21:41] @ Phoenix nice
[03:21:42] ~ End3r American? sick as a dog
[03:21:57] + zer0s I get the feeling she's ok with eating slow fermented sourdough
[03:21:59] @ Phoenix we bake our own bread so..
[03:22:12] + zer0s I bake as well
[03:22:14] ~ End3r was a french baguette
[03:22:17] ~ End3r sealed
[03:22:24] ~ End3r bought from france
[03:22:24] + zer0s baguette = sourdough
[03:22:29] ~ End3r flown back
[03:22:36] ~ End3r perfectly fine
[03:22:56] + zer0s I don't think its the type of wheat they use, but I could be wrong
[03:23:10] ~ End3r it's the chemicals in the soil I think
[03:23:24] + zer0s I think its the bread making process
[03:23:51] ~ End3r I really think it is the chems in the soil where the wheat is grown.
[03:23:59] ~ End3r monsanto is killing us
[03:24:00] + zer0s also possible
[03:25:08] + zer0s I worked with a european boss obsessed with bread. He was disgusted by american bread. He bakes every loaf he eats
[03:25:23] ~ End3r I totally get it
[03:25:23] + zer0s I tried his bread too, it was legit
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[03:25:41] ~ End3r I make my own too. I use Italian flour.
[03:26:28] + zer0s do you make it with instant yeast or wild yeast?
[03:26:56] @ Phoenix hmm Italian flour.. might have to try it.. although ours is pretty good
[03:27:17] + zer0s I just make sure to use bread flour
[03:27:19] + zer0s lol
[03:27:33] ~ End3r I just get it off of amazon
[03:27:49] * End3r looks for link
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[03:29:09] @ glitchy [url] Amazon.com | www.amazon.com
[03:29:27] + zer0s ah yeah I know caputo
[03:29:36] + zer0s I used to use them for 00 pizza flour
[03:29:52] + zer0s and then I realized 00 flour is wasted on a home oven lol
[03:29:59] ~ End3r true
[03:30:15] ~ End3r need a stone oven with wood fire
[03:30:20] + zer0s ^
[03:30:23] ~ End3r for the perfect pizza
[03:30:30] + zer0s I still make a decent one
[03:30:49] ~ End3r can't fake that flavor
[03:31:13] + zer0s I can't make neopolitan in a home oven, but I make a decent new york style one
[03:31:13] ~ End3r zer0s it makes good bread too
[03:31:19] + zer0s yeah?
[03:31:22] ~ End3r yeah
[03:31:26] ~ End3r hands down
[03:31:45] + zer0s I've seen brand comparisons, it doesn't seem to matter much
[03:31:47] ~ End3r throw some champagne yeast in that bitch
[03:31:59] ~ End3r super puffy
[03:32:11] + zer0s it really comes down to technique and yeast type
[03:32:34] ~ End3r way higher alcohol tolerance. so it bubbles alot
[03:32:45] ~ End3r super soft and yummy
[03:33:28] ~ End3r anyway, I need to go to bed
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