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[00:06:34] + brothchild i can't even hear my laptop fan run up doing image-gen

[00:06:43] + brothchild i rule

[00:06:49] + brothchild so hard

[00:15:09] + brothchild what specific thing interests you

[00:18:55] + brothchild that's a valid analogy - people are misled to apply branding to themselves now, as their identity, when their true identity is their geneetic tree

[00:19:52] + brothchild probably deeper than you've thought before yes

[00:23:16] + brothchild somebody always needs to write the linux driver, and those people usually want to get paid

[00:23:38] + brothchild that was rough times back in the 90s

[00:27:09] + brothchild dmesg and lsusb can get you the product id sometimes to look up driver info

[00:41:39] + brothchild I used to use windows.

[00:41:43] + brothchild But then I got better.

[00:49:48] + brothchild nice outpainter for klein-4b https://huggingface.co/fal/flux-2-klein-4B-outpaint-lora

[00:50:03] + brothchild being able to do this shit is awesome even if it takes minutes

[00:50:15] + brothchild i might even fire up the big box for it

[00:59:06] + brothchild it's good to go without food for a while

[00:59:22] + brothchild fridurk is correct

[01:00:22] + brothchild yeah appreciate the silver linings when you can

[01:06:59] + brothchild my terminal font does a good job with maps https://x0.at/kjwD.png

[01:07:47] + brothchild still some things to fix tho

[01:11:41] + brothchild yeah i'm making the world's best TUI font

[01:12:04] + brothchild the only competition is yesterday's me

[01:13:03] + brothchild yessir

[01:13:06] + brothchild OG

[01:13:15] + brothchild from before my computer had graphics capability

[01:14:11] + brothchild hm well i liked makin things move on the screen. still do.

[01:14:25] + brothchild have you seen some of the PETSCII games made recently

[01:14:43] + brothchild well some mad lads did it, made decent action games with text

[01:14:51] + brothchild one was by dr terrorz, forgot the name of it

[01:15:04] + brothchild the other is "Attack of the PETSCII Robots" which is a brilliant execution

[01:15:27] + brothchild Ah 'Digiloi' is the other one

[01:16:19] + brothchild https://text-mode.org/?p=18701 one of my favorite artists - petscii robots

[01:16:55] + brothchild that is so much better than anything done in 1980s, with the same character set and hardware

[01:17:13] + brothchild stuff like that is cool, taking 40 year old hardware furthur

[01:18:41] + brothchild almost tempted to get twitter to give a thumbs-up to such people but i just can't do it

[01:19:19] + brothchild i sometimes open a mirror to check what people send me

[01:23:08] + brothchild based zer0s

[01:23:40] + brothchild zer0s: there was an experimental framebuffer console that finally supported utf-8 a while back but it got dropped

[01:24:03] + brothchild but since we can draw straight to framebuffer, no reason not to write a userspace console app that just renders like fbi does

[01:24:26] + brothchild i am not satisfied since i can't use my awesome terminal font in current kernel framebuffer

[01:24:36] + brothchild it limited to 8-bit characters (ascii)

[01:25:03] + brothchild i am happy but i could be happier

[01:25:32] + brothchild you think ram is expensive now, try 1981

[01:26:06] + brothchild well now we can do new things with lots of ram, so there's kind of a reason now

[01:26:23] + brothchild the webbrowser is just cancer though really a catastrophe i saw coming ages ago

[01:26:33] + brothchild i hate that

[01:26:45] + brothchild also comes from the browser people

[01:28:37] + brothchild yes

[01:28:53] + brothchild i makes me want to get ze flammenwerfer

[01:29:14] + brothchild using a supercomputer performance and ram to display a page of text and images

[01:29:35] + brothchild i will not share further thoughts on this matter

[01:31:49] + brothchild it's understandable that people care less about RAM now, but not that much less. that's degeneracy

[01:32:23] + brothchild also i want top/htop/btop to group the damn process spam for firefox and other multithreaded apps

[01:32:28] + brothchild that should have been done long ago

[01:32:42] + brothchild at least as an option

[01:33:24] + brothchild look at your process table, it's all firefox spam or brave spam

[01:33:44] + brothchild btop helps my eyes find what i want to see

[01:33:48] + brothchild for that quick glance

[01:33:53] + brothchild it's practically better in that way

[01:34:15] + brothchild sometimes it crashes though, when i get memory pressure

[01:34:54] + brothchild a browser ;-;

[01:35:39] + brothchild i like TUIs i'm not manaical about it

[01:35:55] + brothchild did you see my bash image editor

[01:36:09] + brothchild that needs some attention

[01:38:06] + brothchild https://x0.at/A51X.png

[01:38:12] + brothchild dang nice

[01:38:53] + brothchild my editor has grown to the point where i'm getting lost working on it

[01:39:09] + brothchild 'WTF is THIS?'

[01:40:01] + brothchild thanks!

[01:40:18] + brothchild :)

[01:40:58] + brothchild i support gpm and mouse

[01:41:14] + brothchild mouse works over ssh too :P

[01:41:20] + brothchild that's so cool

[01:41:40] + brothchild not many neat terminal UI programs use it

[01:42:12] + brothchild that sounds interesting

[01:42:21] + brothchild how does that work

[01:42:45] + brothchild ok right

[01:43:30] + brothchild i've thought of a way to stream low-res music, just using color info as pseudo sideband

[01:43:36] + brothchild nice

[01:44:17] + brothchild well imagine a bbs where the beeps or music is streamed as low-bit color info overlaid on whatever your current screen is

[01:44:23] + brothchild crocodundy: spammer

[01:46:53] + brothchild colorwise it'd be a slight overlay of noise, like old tv signal :P

[01:47:19] + brothchild just pipe the stream, tee it to a seperate program that interprets the ECMA-48 color codes

[01:47:43] + brothchild i calculate 12kbit/s would be doable - enough for opus audio

[01:48:44] + brothchild I can't warm up to midi, not enough control

[01:50:56] + brothchild yes i understand

[01:51:07] + brothchild some bbs's support that kind of note-data sending

[01:51:10] + brothchild but i like crazy

[01:52:25] + brothchild and the cute thing is if i understand things right, it's possible to do the 'tee' to a seperate program that just decodes the audio, and use your normal ssh program for the control and text

[01:54:19] + brothchild have you seen the telnet map project i inspired? telnet mapscii.me

[01:54:44] + brothchild i still don't understand how he's handling the mouse

[01:55:35] + brothchild <- :)

[01:55:50] + brothchild rastapasta did the hard work though

[01:56:14] + brothchild he used to hang out in irc

[01:56:40] + brothchild havent seen him in 15 years

[02:04:45] + brothchild two things reapered friends of mine - cabal killing mobile linux (maemo) and cabal's remote code injections 2021

[02:06:36] + brothchild The cognitive dissonance of security-focused computer experts just rolling over and rolling up their sleeves was a.. . . .

[02:07:19] + brothchild maemo was nokia's smartphone OS after symbian, kind of a skunkworks project

[02:07:47] + brothchild a sad tale, symbian

[02:07:52] + brothchild great origins

[02:08:23] + brothchild i'd have championed it if it hadn't been locked down community-wise

[02:08:43] + brothchild derived from Psion's excellent Epoc OS

[02:09:17] + brothchild apps used a few kilobytes, modular loading code objects. did everything right.

[02:09:29] + brothchild near instant startup, where you left off

[02:09:41] + brothchild devices could run on aa batteries

[02:09:42] + brothchild yes

[02:12:04] + brothchild it's hard to say

[02:12:17] + brothchild symbian was on billions of phones

[02:12:55] + brothchild microsoft came in tail end

[02:13:06] + brothchild nokia made symbian mainstream over several generations

[02:13:10] + brothchild eriksson and nokia

[02:13:26] + brothchild here's some nice old epoc devices https://hackaday.io/project/161291-the-last-psion/details

[02:13:44] + brothchild i'd say Psion was the last great computer company

[02:13:51] + brothchild a last hurrah for UK

[02:14:20] + brothchild stamped out pioneering everything out of the raw ore

[02:15:26] + brothchild yeah but psion was the last one

[02:16:28] + brothchild well they're just an IP company now

[02:17:07] + brothchild ok

[02:17:37] + brothchild i wouldn't mind a max m3 max's memory speed

[02:17:47] + brothchild nice

[02:18:10] + brothchild i hope so

[02:18:46] + brothchild maybe they could just build on canonical's GPU driver stack and open source that

[02:19:45] + brothchild well there was no driver for my amlogic sbc

[02:19:54] + brothchild until those freaks wrote a FOSS one

[02:20:02] + brothchild panfrost

[02:20:08] + brothchild that is a happiest-day-ever project

[02:20:28] + brothchild yeah

[02:20:48] + brothchild last decent one was amlogic a311d

[02:21:08] + brothchild rockchip had something 'all ready for release' then a mysterious 18 month delay of pure silence

[02:21:23] + brothchild after which they re-announced one with a different gpu and ??? blobs

[02:21:31] + brothchild rk3588

[02:22:09] + brothchild that has the stench of cabal so thick you could cut it with a knife

[02:22:45] + brothchild it does!

[02:23:01] + brothchild hilariously i could sell my jetson nano for more than i paid for it

[02:23:03] + brothchild nice gpu on those

[02:23:28] + brothchild all kinds of fun things run on it as long as you don't install a browser

[02:24:37] + brothchild well browsers are too slow to display images and formatted text on a quadcore 2ghz 32-bit machine

[02:24:53] + brothchild when we could do it just fine at same resolution on a 25mhz 68040

[02:25:06] + brothchild we are in software purgatory

[02:25:52] + brothchild that doesn't say anything about whether we're in a better or worse place now

[02:26:30] + brothchild lynx should use double size font for headers

[02:26:39] + brothchild did you know that vt100 terminals can display double-size text?

[02:26:52] + brothchild well you can't do it in console

[02:27:07] + brothchild how about a framebuffer xterm

[02:27:18] + brothchild that sounds like a thing this world needs

[02:27:31] + brothchild except drop that idiotic font rendrering

[02:27:34] + brothchild another subverted thing

[02:28:03] + brothchild wise

[02:28:36] + brothchild i will try to take your example

[02:28:39] + brothchild follow

[02:29:09] + brothchild it's just rare that i get to talk to someone who understands the subjects i have particular dislikes in

[02:32:00] + brothchild zer0s can you think of an algorithm to strip out the junk for lynx / w3m / links

[02:32:21] + brothchild i want junk removed and headers in doublesize text

[02:32:49] + brothchild oh did you see my .csv grapher for terminal?

[02:35:18] + brothchild all the bits that waste vertical space like crazy in terminal

[02:35:24] + brothchild here's my grapher https://x0.at/9Ys0.png

[02:35:52] + brothchild oh that cap doesn't have the double size text, moment

[02:36:14] + brothchild thanks!

[02:36:31] + brothchild it can only do key,value

[02:36:36] + brothchild color is optional

[02:36:55] + brothchild but it's enough to get a visualization of your data as long as there's not too much

[02:38:26] + brothchild hard to do without custom font like blapinus

[02:39:12] + brothchild thanks

[02:39:49] + brothchild https://x0.at/OW0K.png there's the double-size text, forgot the DECCTL code for it

[02:39:53] + brothchild but it's in my script

[02:40:19] + brothchild some sites have a column of links on the left and lynx (used to) display those first and waste a lot of space

[02:43:40] + brothchild i think it's a problem for a mathy + creative person, and those are rare

[02:43:53] + brothchild ah maybe it's fixed now

[02:44:51] + brothchild what are reasons you prefer lynx to alternative console browsers?

[02:45:59] + brothchild good enough

[02:49:54] + brothchild mhm, same with dillo browser

[02:50:12] + brothchild there's just too much addon in web stuff, it's ... irredeemable

[02:50:35] + brothchild thankfully there's oldschool websearch sites too

[02:53:09] + brothchild i just picked up my water jug and it's empty again, like someone else drunk it

[02:53:24] + brothchild we lose our minds in bits and pieces it seems

[02:53:35] + brothchild mhm

[02:53:56] + brothchild sometimes my only daily accomplishment is being hydrated

[02:55:15] + brothchild i'm impressed you do the discipline of console-only

[02:55:44] + brothchild i believe it

[02:56:31] + brothchild my life is a sidequest fractal

[02:58:37] + brothchild well now with qwen 3.5 EM you don't need to understand videos, your computer can

[03:01:46] + brothchild most of my work could be described as 'data janitor'

[03:02:19] + brothchild i got the chance to do more interesting things too though

[03:04:36] + brothchild what can you say about your work?

[03:06:06] + brothchild it nice to meet you and i have enjoyed the conversation

[03:06:57] + brothchild if you ever meet someone in desperate need of a graph in terminal send em my way

[03:07:15] + brothchild or stuff like that

[03:07:39] + brothchild i love drawin stuff with text blocks, it's like LEGO as a child

[03:07:50] + brothchild in fact the analogy is very good

[03:10:25] + brothchild ok there are framebuffer terminal emulators, e.g. fbterm

[03:12:07] + brothchild https://github.com/uobikiemukot/yaft

[03:15:05] + brothchild https://github.com/ruo91/jfbterm

[03:22:13] brothchild Beethoven was reborn as Caspar Pound and revealed himself doing techno in 1991: yt-dlp PF1CRDIWwB8

[03:24:39] + brothchild goosebumps

[14:16:49] + brothchild textart: blapinus-strawberries https://x0.at/qx_H.png

[15:48:28] + brothchild gretingks komrade bochard

[15:49:14] + brothchild the other great thing about zram is performance degradation before hitting the hard OOM wall

[15:49:23] + brothchild like auto brakes on my car

[15:49:41] + brothchild i am happy to meet you what is your interest in linux?

[15:56:12] + brothchild very nice!

[15:56:27] + brothchild feel free to ask questions that your llm stinks at answering

[15:57:50] + brothchild linux for me is being able to *do things* with my computer

[15:57:57] + brothchild and learn whatever I have brain to learn

[15:58:27] + brothchild and i can talk with program authors and get changes implemented that I want

[16:04:07] + brothchild i try to!

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