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Tuesday, April 21, 2026
[00:06:18] fridurk the reason shit doesn't work on my new hp laptop is because microsoft is sabotaging their competition
[00:06:21] fridurk fucking. assholes.
[00:06:34] + brothchild i can't even hear my laptop fan run up doing image-gen
[00:06:43] + brothchild i rule
[00:06:49] + brothchild so hard
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[00:07:09] fridurk you leave your laptop in bed when you touch your peepee don't you
[00:07:32] + mlu it short circuited
[00:07:46] fridurk that would explain a lot
[00:07:53] fridurk if you were more specific
[00:15:09] + brothchild what specific thing interests you
[00:17:16] fridurk linux
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[00:17:39] fridurk my linux mint is pretending to not be debian
[00:17:50] fridurk but linux mint are their pronouns i guess
[00:18:55] + brothchild that's a valid analogy - people are misled to apply branding to themselves now, as their identity, when their true identity is their geneetic tree
[00:19:31] fridurk wow i wonder if that's deep
[00:19:52] + brothchild probably deeper than you've thought before yes
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[00:22:16] fridurk anyway, yes hp laptop no mic, and i'm seeing people say a workaround is external webcam with microphone
[00:22:27] fridurk this is one of those things where i'm pretty sure i know who's fault that one is and it's microsoft's
[00:23:16] + brothchild somebody always needs to write the linux driver, and those people usually want to get paid
[00:23:38] + brothchild that was rough times back in the 90s
[00:27:09] + brothchild dmesg and lsusb can get you the product id sometimes to look up driver info
[00:29:51] fridurk i don't believe that
[00:31:14] fridurk linux doesn't work on windows anymore does it
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[00:31:18] fridurk i believe that.
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[00:39:32] * glitchy set mode -v truthwillout
[00:41:39] + brothchild I used to use windows.
[00:41:43] + brothchild But then I got better.
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verity verity lolling
[00:46:03] fridurk yeah don't need an OS helping the user sometimes and sometimes not helping the user
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[00:49:48] @ glitchy [url] fal/flux-2-klein-4B-outpaint-lora · Hugging Face | huggingface.co
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[00:50:03] + brothchild being able to do this shit is awesome even if it takes minutes
[00:50:15] + brothchild i might even fire up the big box for it
[00:51:12] fridurk i'm actually literally a fan of hunger? makes future food tastier
[00:51:22] fridurk it's literally not a negative
[00:51:44] fridurk until you start dying i guess but that's multiple hours ahead of time
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[00:59:06] + brothchild it's good to go without food for a while
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hoice hoice hoice hoice hoice
[00:59:22] + brothchild fridurk is correct
[00:59:42] fridurk no i remember once i actually gained enough weight where when i tried to lose it i absolutely could not, skinny my whole life until after college
[00:59:54] fridurk then handy motorcycle crash solved that
[01:00:07] fridurk icu resident for awhile
[01:00:22] + brothchild yeah appreciate the silver linings when you can
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[01:06:59] + brothchild my terminal font does a good job with maps https://x0.at/kjwD.png
[01:07:47] + brothchild still some things to fix tho
[01:08:14] fridurk why does everything work sometimes
[01:09:32] * glitchy set mode +v zer0s
[01:11:19] + zer0s interesting brothchild
[01:11:41] + brothchild yeah i'm making the world's best TUI font
[01:12:04] + brothchild the only competition is yesterday's me
[01:12:19] + zer0s lol
[01:12:25] + zer0s the worlds best tui font XD
[01:12:35] + zer0s brothchild: are you a TUI guy?
[01:13:03] + brothchild yessir
[01:13:06] + brothchild OG
[01:13:09] + zer0s :D
[01:13:15] + brothchild from before my computer had graphics capability
[01:13:27] + zer0s wowee
[01:13:52] + zer0s well, to be fair, I hated using computers when it was tui only but I was probably too young for it
[01:13:59] + zer0s I enjoy it now
[01:14:11] + brothchild hm well i liked makin things move on the screen. still do.
[01:14:25] + brothchild have you seen some of the PETSCII games made recently
[01:14:33] + zer0s nope
[01:14:43] + brothchild well some mad lads did it, made decent action games with text
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[01:14:51] + brothchild one was by dr terrorz, forgot the name of it
[01:15:04] + brothchild the other is "Attack of the PETSCII Robots" which is a brilliant execution
[01:15:27] + brothchild Ah 'Digiloi' is the other one
[01:16:08] + zer0s interesting
[01:16:18] + zer0s the commodore version was impressive
[01:16:19] + brothchild https://text-mode.org/?p=18701 one of my favorite artists - petscii robots
[01:16:20] @ glitchy [url] text-mode.org | text-mode.org
[01:16:55] + brothchild that is so much better than anything done in 1980s, with the same character set and hardware
[01:17:13] + brothchild stuff like that is cool, taking 40 year old hardware furthur
[01:17:32] + zer0s agreed
[01:17:41] + zer0s love that these guys are pushing the hardware
[01:18:41] + brothchild almost tempted to get twitter to give a thumbs-up to such people but i just can't do it
[01:19:01] + zer0s do you never open an x instance?
[01:19:06] + zer0s *a x
[01:19:19] + brothchild i sometimes open a mirror to check what people send me
[01:20:09] + zer0s I'll just copy the link using tmux and view in fbi lol
[01:20:25] + zer0s curl ->fbi
[01:20:47] + zer0s but with twitter... I'm sure someone has created a tui for that
[01:22:03] + zer0s I don't mind starting windowmaker/firefox.
[01:22:18] + zer0s but its not a good use of resources on this computer
[01:23:08] + brothchild based zer0s
[01:23:26] + zer0s is it?
[01:23:40] + brothchild zer0s: there was an experimental framebuffer console that finally supported utf-8 a while back but it got dropped
[01:24:02] + zer0s eh, I'm fine with tty as is
[01:24:03] + brothchild but since we can draw straight to framebuffer, no reason not to write a userspace console app that just renders like fbi does
[01:24:12] + zer0s ^
[01:24:26] + brothchild i am not satisfied since i can't use my awesome terminal font in current kernel framebuffer
[01:24:36] + brothchild it limited to 8-bit characters (ascii)
[01:24:48] + zer0s be happy with it XD
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[01:24:57] + zer0s sometimes 8 bits is enough
[01:25:03] + brothchild i am happy but i could be happier
[01:25:14] * zer0s remembers a famous line about 256kb being all the memory someone would ever need
[01:25:32] + brothchild you think ram is expensive now, try 1981
[01:25:40] + zer0s yeah i'm sure
[01:25:45] + zer0s we're all just spoiled
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[01:25:57] + zer0s but the applications keep becoming more hungry
[01:26:06] + brothchild well now we can do new things with lots of ram, so there's kind of a reason now
[01:26:23] + brothchild the webbrowser is just cancer though really a catastrophe i saw coming ages ago
[01:26:27] + zer0s there's also this ethos that unused ram is wasted ram
[01:26:33] + brothchild i hate that
[01:26:45] + brothchild also comes from the browser people
[01:26:49] + zer0s hmm
[01:27:10] + zer0s to be fair, the webbrowser is what most people interact with the most on a computer
[01:27:19] + zer0s I think a terminal would put off most
[01:28:04] + zer0s I just see firefox use 1gb of ram on one tab, and my brain melts
[01:28:37] + brothchild yes
[01:28:53] + brothchild i makes me want to get ze flammenwerfer
[01:29:14] + brothchild using a supercomputer performance and ram to display a page of text and images
[01:29:35] + brothchild i will not share further thoughts on this matter
[01:29:47] + zer0s lol its true
[01:30:01] + zer0s but its more like people using supercomputers to watch cat videos
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[01:30:58] + zer0s I blame newer languages for being wasteful with memory. Python is very guilty
[01:31:49] + brothchild it's understandable that people care less about RAM now, but not that much less. that's degeneracy
[01:32:23] + brothchild also i want top/htop/btop to group the damn process spam for firefox and other multithreaded apps
[01:32:25] + zer0s people just don't care about minimizing ram use anymore
[01:32:28] + brothchild that should have been done long ago
[01:32:42] + brothchild at least as an option
[01:33:24] + brothchild look at your process table, it's all firefox spam or brave spam
[01:33:28] + zer0s I love btop but it feels indulgent compared to top
[01:33:44] + brothchild btop helps my eyes find what i want to see
[01:33:48] + zer0s ^
[01:33:48] + brothchild for that quick glance
[01:33:53] + brothchild it's practically better in that way
[01:33:57] + zer0s agreed, that makes it worth it for me
[01:34:15] + brothchild sometimes it crashes though, when i get memory pressure
[01:34:44] + zer0s what are you running on where btop crashes lol
[01:34:54] + brothchild a browser ;-;
[01:35:03] + zer0s what
[01:35:15] + zer0s I thought you were a tui guy
[01:35:16] + zer0s lol
[01:35:39] + brothchild i like TUIs i'm not manaical about it
[01:35:55] + brothchild did you see my bash image editor
[01:36:09] + brothchild that needs some attention
[01:36:23] + zer0s I didn't
[01:36:42] + zer0s after I get off work, I get on this computer which is 100% tui
[01:38:12] + brothchild dang nice
[01:38:53] + brothchild my editor has grown to the point where i'm getting lost working on it
[01:39:09] + brothchild 'WTF is THIS?'
[01:39:47] + zer0s that looks really nice
[01:40:01] + brothchild thanks!
[01:40:11] + zer0s i'm sure someone in 1980 wishes they could experience it
[01:40:12] + zer0s lol
[01:40:18] + brothchild :)
[01:40:43] + zer0s I can't imagine having to paint or edit an image with a keyboard
[01:40:55] + zer0s obviously people did it...but it sounds painful
[01:40:58] + brothchild i support gpm and mouse
[01:41:06] + zer0s ah nice
[01:41:14] + brothchild mouse works over ssh too :P
[01:41:20] + brothchild that's so cool
[01:41:27] + zer0s ssh is goated
[01:41:40] + brothchild not many neat terminal UI programs use it
[01:41:58] + zer0s eh I technically use it to stream music from my server
[01:42:12] + brothchild that sounds interesting
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[01:42:21] + brothchild how does that work
[01:42:39] + zer0s mount the music folder from my server to a local folder using sshfs
[01:42:45] + brothchild ok right
[01:42:56] + zer0s and then play file using sox or mpg123
[01:43:15] + zer0s or you can be wasteful and use moc
[01:43:29] + zer0s I literally only have 512mb of ram on this machine so I can't be wasteful
[01:43:30] + brothchild i've thought of a way to stream low-res music, just using color info as pseudo sideband
[01:43:36] + brothchild nice
[01:43:43] + zer0s I stream flac files
[01:43:43] + zer0s lol
[01:43:57] + zer0s cpu usage hovers around 2%. totally doable
[01:44:17] + brothchild well imagine a bbs where the beeps or music is streamed as low-bit color info overlaid on whatever your current screen is
[01:44:23] + brothchild crocodundy: spammer
[01:45:19] + zer0s o_o
[01:45:23] + zer0s sounds trippy
[01:46:53] + brothchild colorwise it'd be a slight overlay of noise, like old tv signal :P
[01:47:19] + brothchild just pipe the stream, tee it to a seperate program that interprets the ECMA-48 color codes
[01:47:43] + brothchild i calculate 12kbit/s would be doable - enough for opus audio
[01:47:57] + zer0s 12kbits/s
[01:47:58] + zer0s XD
[01:48:06] + zer0s just play midi files
[01:48:44] + brothchild I can't warm up to midi, not enough control
[01:50:07] + zer0s its what sounds more sane to me though
[01:50:08] + zer0s lol
[01:50:56] + brothchild yes i understand
[01:51:07] + brothchild some bbs's support that kind of note-data sending
[01:51:10] + brothchild but i like crazy
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[01:52:25] + brothchild and the cute thing is if i understand things right, it's possible to do the 'tee' to a seperate program that just decodes the audio, and use your normal ssh program for the control and text
[01:53:33] + zer0s I've honestly never used a bbs, so I don't know what the limits are here
[01:53:38] + zer0s predates me
[01:54:19] + brothchild have you seen the telnet map project i inspired? telnet mapscii.me
[01:54:44] + brothchild i still don't understand how he's handling the mouse
[01:55:24] + zer0s mapscii.me is inspired
[01:55:35] + brothchild <- :)
[01:55:41] + zer0s haha
[01:55:50] + brothchild rastapasta did the hard work though
[01:56:14] + brothchild he used to hang out in irc
[01:56:32] + zer0s ah no more?
[01:56:40] + brothchild havent seen him in 15 years
[01:56:47] + zer0s oof
[02:04:45] + brothchild two things reapered friends of mine - cabal killing mobile linux (maemo) and cabal's remote code injections 2021
[02:06:25] + zer0s glitchy: what are these references?
[02:06:36] + brothchild The cognitive dissonance of security-focused computer experts just rolling over and rolling up their sleeves was a.. . . .
[02:06:39] + zer0s I don't remember maemo
[02:06:43] @ glitchy zer0s: brothchild: MS/Nokia cabal axed Maemo (N900's OG Linux phone OS, <> 😏 killed ~2010 for WP)—IRC buds bailed; 2021 shady cabal RCE attacks rekt more homies, rastapasta ghosted way earlier 💀🐧
[02:07:14] + zer0s interesting
[02:07:19] + brothchild maemo was nokia's smartphone OS after symbian, kind of a skunkworks project
[02:07:36] + zer0s symbian lol, what a blast from the past
[02:07:47] + brothchild a sad tale, symbian
[02:07:52] + brothchild great origins
[02:08:23] + brothchild i'd have championed it if it hadn't been locked down community-wise
[02:08:43] + brothchild derived from Psion's excellent Epoc OS
[02:09:17] + brothchild apps used a few kilobytes, modular loading code objects. did everything right.
[02:09:29] + brothchild near instant startup, where you left off
[02:09:36] + zer0s I recall nokia and microsoft killing everything they made or touched
[02:09:39] + zer0s during that time period
[02:09:41] + brothchild devices could run on aa batteries
[02:09:42] + brothchild yes
[02:10:04] + zer0s yeah surprising that they chose ARM so early on, very ahead of their time
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[02:10:41] + zer0s the last iteration of symbian looks very similar to android back in the day
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[02:11:17] + zer0s I'm guessing it wasn't a good platform to keep building on so they scrapped it
[02:11:58] + zer0s well I guess it didn't matter that it wasn't good enough, they were dead in the water in terms of user adoption
[02:12:04] + brothchild it's hard to say
[02:12:17] + brothchild symbian was on billions of phones
[02:12:36] + zer0s I think by the time nokia and microsoft joined, symbian was dead
[02:12:55] + brothchild microsoft came in tail end
[02:13:06] + brothchild nokia made symbian mainstream over several generations
[02:13:10] + brothchild eriksson and nokia
[02:13:26] + brothchild here's some nice old epoc devices https://hackaday.io/project/161291-the-last-psion/details
[02:13:27] @ glitchy [url] The Last Psion | Details | Hackaday.io | hackaday.io
[02:13:44] + brothchild i'd say Psion was the last great computer company
[02:13:51] + brothchild a last hurrah for UK
[02:14:20] + brothchild stamped out pioneering everything out of the raw ore
[02:14:47] + zer0s acorn/arm isn't a great english computer company?
[02:15:26] + brothchild yeah but psion was the last one
[02:15:48] + zer0s I don't know arm is eating x64's lunch right now
[02:16:09] + zer0s worthy accomplishment
[02:16:28] + brothchild well they're just an IP company now
[02:16:47] + zer0s they do the core arch that companies build on
[02:16:54] + zer0s very important
[02:17:06] + zer0s risc-V isn't going to be competitive for a while
[02:17:07] + brothchild ok
[02:17:37] + brothchild i wouldn't mind a max m3 max's memory speed
[02:17:38] + zer0s I saw the licensing fees for ARM, I thought they'd be brutal, but its overblown
[02:17:47] + brothchild nice
[02:18:00] + zer0s I think ARM is going to be relevant for a long time
[02:18:10] + brothchild i hope so
[02:18:33] + zer0s I think the community hopes riscV will overtake it
[02:18:46] + brothchild maybe they could just build on canonical's GPU driver stack and open source that
[02:19:29] + zer0s I don't know what license their driver uses
[02:19:45] + brothchild well there was no driver for my amlogic sbc
[02:19:54] + brothchild until those freaks wrote a FOSS one
[02:20:02] + brothchild panfrost
[02:20:08] + brothchild that is a happiest-day-ever project
[02:20:17] + zer0s these arm sbcs are problematic in that they will require blobs
[02:20:28] + brothchild yeah
[02:20:41] + zer0s no one wants to give up IP
[02:20:45] + zer0s even if it means everyone gains
[02:20:48] + brothchild last decent one was amlogic a311d
[02:21:08] + brothchild rockchip had something 'all ready for release' then a mysterious 18 month delay of pure silence
[02:21:23] + brothchild after which they re-announced one with a different gpu and ??? blobs
[02:21:31] + brothchild rk3588
[02:22:09] + brothchild that has the stench of cabal so thick you could cut it with a knife
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[02:22:29] + zer0s I used to be more curious about these alternative sbcs (outside of the raspberry foundation), but the support sucks
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[02:22:39] + zer0s even nvidia's sbcs support sucks
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[02:22:45] + brothchild it does!
[02:23:01] + brothchild hilariously i could sell my jetson nano for more than i paid for it
[02:23:03] + brothchild nice gpu on those
[02:23:12] + zer0s yeah if you can run anything
[02:23:12] + zer0s lol
[02:23:28] + brothchild all kinds of fun things run on it as long as you don't install a browser
[02:23:58] + zer0s I think it goes beyond graphics issues
[02:24:28] + zer0s regardless, their willingness to just drop support after launch makes me not want to purchase lol
[02:24:37] + brothchild well browsers are too slow to display images and formatted text on a quadcore 2ghz 32-bit machine
[02:24:53] + brothchild when we could do it just fine at same resolution on a 25mhz 68040
[02:25:06] + brothchild we are in software purgatory
[02:25:21] + zer0s eh the world has moved on
[02:25:46] + zer0s this is why I just use lynx on this computer. I also only visit sites that require javascript enables
[02:25:51] + zer0s *enabled
[02:25:52] + brothchild that doesn't say anything about whether we're in a better or worse place now
[02:26:30] + brothchild lynx should use double size font for headers
[02:26:33] + zer0s I think its better with caveats
[02:26:39] + brothchild did you know that vt100 terminals can display double-size text?
[02:26:42] + zer0s brothchild: that would be nice
[02:26:52] + brothchild well you can't do it in console
[02:27:07] + zer0s hmm
[02:27:07] + brothchild how about a framebuffer xterm
[02:27:18] + brothchild that sounds like a thing this world needs
[02:27:26] + zer0s lol
[02:27:31] + brothchild except drop that idiotic font rendrering
[02:27:34] + brothchild another subverted thing
[02:27:56] + zer0s I've honestly stopped complaining about code I don't contribute to anymore lol
[02:28:03] + zer0s being a dev made me too sympathetic
[02:28:03] + brothchild wise
[02:28:32] + zer0s *becoming
[02:28:36] + brothchild i will try to take your example
[02:28:39] + brothchild follow
[02:28:40] woodwose lynx should support some modern css
[02:28:46] woodwose e.g. flex, or grid
[02:29:09] + brothchild it's just rare that i get to talk to someone who understands the subjects i have particular dislikes in
[02:29:17] + zer0s ahh
[02:29:20] + zer0s lol, I get it
[02:29:41] + zer0s woodwose: that would be nice
[02:30:25] + zer0s I get the sense these aren't trivial tasks though
[02:30:46] + zer0s they take the aspects I hate about GUI programming and apply them to text
[02:31:08] + zer0s formatting is miserable work and no one respects it
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[02:32:00] + brothchild zer0s can you think of an algorithm to strip out the junk for lynx / w3m / links
[02:32:21] + brothchild i want junk removed and headers in doublesize text
[02:32:49] + brothchild oh did you see my .csv grapher for terminal?
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[02:34:53] + zer0s well what do you mean by junk?
[02:35:18] + brothchild all the bits that waste vertical space like crazy in terminal
[02:35:24] + brothchild here's my grapher https://x0.at/9Ys0.png
[02:35:52] + brothchild oh that cap doesn't have the double size text, moment
[02:36:08] + zer0s that graph looks nice :D
[02:36:14] + brothchild thanks!
[02:36:30] + zer0s love that its coloured
[02:36:31] + brothchild it can only do key,value
[02:36:36] + brothchild color is optional
[02:36:55] + brothchild but it's enough to get a visualization of your data as long as there's not too much
[02:37:28] + zer0s the problem with most of the graphs I used to need, they tended to require a z plane
[02:38:04] + zer0s I was dealing with heat equations at the time
[02:38:26] + brothchild hard to do without custom font like blapinus
[02:38:34] + zer0s hmm
[02:38:57] + zer0s still nice work
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[02:39:12] + brothchild thanks
[02:39:35] + zer0s as for the vertical space waste, I'm afraid I don't see what you mean, but I could be too used to looking at lynx now
[02:39:49] + brothchild https://x0.at/OW0K.png there's the double-size text, forgot the DECCTL code for it
[02:39:53] + brothchild but it's in my script
[02:40:19] + brothchild some sites have a column of links on the left and lynx (used to) display those first and waste a lot of space
[02:40:33] Spookan Good morning folks!
[02:40:49] woodwose Spookan can't afford a stable connection, lol
[02:41:03] woodwose he dcs and reconnects like a lil girl
[02:41:04] + zer0s very nice graphs brothchild
[02:41:24] + zer0s hi Spookan
[02:41:44] woodwose he also doesn't run linux
[02:41:47] + zer0s brothchild: ooooh I know what you mean now
[02:41:54] + zer0s I totally forgot
[02:42:28] + zer0s you'd almost need to allow some sort of word wrapping to occur
[02:43:36] + zer0s I think their solution was probably a compromise which allows most websites (that aren't javascript restricted) to render correctly
[02:43:40] + brothchild i think it's a problem for a mathy + creative person, and those are rare
[02:43:53] + brothchild ah maybe it's fixed now
[02:44:04] + zer0s its not fixed, its still a problem
[02:44:23] + zer0s I just forgot about it/accepted it
[02:44:51] + brothchild what are reasons you prefer lynx to alternative console browsers?
[02:45:11] + zer0s I like the default color theming
[02:45:54] + zer0s also, the app is more intuitive to me
[02:45:59] + brothchild good enough
[02:46:07] + zer0s but most text browsers are fairly similar
[02:48:53] + zer0s I think the reason why more effort isn't put into these text based browsers now, is that more and more websites require javascript, so supporting a dying medium seems pointless
[02:49:32] + zer0s not that I don't think effort didn't go into making them what they are, I just suspect development isn't as active for that reason
[02:49:54] + brothchild mhm, same with dillo browser
[02:49:59] + zer0s exactly
[02:50:12] + brothchild there's just too much addon in web stuff, it's ... irredeemable
[02:50:22] + zer0s I can't even go to google.com
[02:50:22] + zer0s lol
[02:50:35] + brothchild thankfully there's oldschool websearch sites too
[02:50:45] + zer0s we just have to appreciate old web while it lasts
[02:53:09] + brothchild i just picked up my water jug and it's empty again, like someone else drunk it
[02:53:24] + brothchild we lose our minds in bits and pieces it seems
[02:53:24] + zer0s lol good on you
[02:53:30] + zer0s for drinking that much water i mean
[02:53:35] + brothchild mhm
[02:53:56] + brothchild sometimes my only daily accomplishment is being hydrated
[02:55:15] + brothchild i'm impressed you do the discipline of console-only
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[02:55:38] + zer0s it honestly keeps me less distracted
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[02:55:44] + brothchild i believe it
[02:55:47] + zer0s its surprising how distracting pictures and videos are
[02:56:31] + brothchild my life is a sidequest fractal
[02:57:48] fridurk a picture is worth a 1000 words
[02:57:56] fridurk so if it's video I don't understand anything
[02:58:37] + brothchild well now with qwen 3.5 EM you don't need to understand videos, your computer can
[02:59:49] + zer0s lol
[03:01:27] + zer0s brothchild: mind if I ask what you do for a living? or at least general sector?
[03:01:46] + brothchild most of my work could be described as 'data janitor'
[03:01:57] + zer0s ah
[03:02:19] + brothchild i got the chance to do more interesting things too though
[03:03:00] + zer0s nice :)
[03:04:36] + brothchild what can you say about your work?
[03:04:49] + zer0s dev
[03:05:05] + zer0s I'm primarily backend, but I do fullstack
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[03:06:06] + brothchild it nice to meet you and i have enjoyed the conversation
[03:06:14] + zer0s same :)
[03:06:57] + brothchild if you ever meet someone in desperate need of a graph in terminal send em my way
[03:07:15] + brothchild or stuff like that
[03:07:38] + zer0s sure :)
[03:07:39] + brothchild i love drawin stuff with text blocks, it's like LEGO as a child
[03:07:50] + brothchild in fact the analogy is very good
[03:08:06] + zer0s i love ascii/text art
[03:08:51] + zer0s most of the stuff I try to do focuses on making these functional
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