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Tuesday, April 21, 2026

[01:11:19] + zer0s interesting brothchild

[01:12:19] + zer0s lol

[01:12:25] + zer0s the worlds best tui font XD

[01:12:35] + zer0s brothchild: are you a TUI guy?

[01:13:09] + zer0s :D

[01:13:27] + zer0s wowee

[01:13:52] + zer0s well, to be fair, I hated using computers when it was tui only but I was probably too young for it

[01:13:59] + zer0s I enjoy it now

[01:14:33] + zer0s nope

[01:16:08] + zer0s interesting

[01:16:18] + zer0s the commodore version was impressive

[01:17:32] + zer0s agreed

[01:17:41] + zer0s love that these guys are pushing the hardware

[01:19:01] + zer0s do you never open an x instance?

[01:19:06] + zer0s *a x

[01:20:09] + zer0s I'll just copy the link using tmux and view in fbi lol

[01:20:25] + zer0s curl ->fbi

[01:20:47] + zer0s but with twitter... I'm sure someone has created a tui for that

[01:22:03] + zer0s I don't mind starting windowmaker/firefox.

[01:22:18] + zer0s but its not a good use of resources on this computer

[01:23:26] + zer0s is it?

[01:24:02] + zer0s eh, I'm fine with tty as is

[01:24:12] + zer0s ^

[01:24:48] + zer0s be happy with it XD

[01:24:57] + zer0s sometimes 8 bits is enough

[01:25:40] + zer0s yeah i'm sure

[01:25:45] + zer0s we're all just spoiled

[01:25:57] + zer0s but the applications keep becoming more hungry

[01:26:27] + zer0s there's also this ethos that unused ram is wasted ram

[01:26:49] + zer0s hmm

[01:27:10] + zer0s to be fair, the webbrowser is what most people interact with the most on a computer

[01:27:19] + zer0s I think a terminal would put off most

[01:28:04] + zer0s I just see firefox use 1gb of ram on one tab, and my brain melts

[01:29:47] + zer0s lol its true

[01:30:01] + zer0s but its more like people using supercomputers to watch cat videos

[01:30:58] + zer0s I blame newer languages for being wasteful with memory. Python is very guilty

[01:32:25] + zer0s people just don't care about minimizing ram use anymore

[01:33:28] + zer0s I love btop but it feels indulgent compared to top

[01:33:48] + zer0s ^

[01:33:57] + zer0s agreed, that makes it worth it for me

[01:34:44] + zer0s what are you running on where btop crashes lol

[01:35:03] + zer0s what

[01:35:15] + zer0s I thought you were a tui guy

[01:35:16] + zer0s lol

[01:36:23] + zer0s I didn't

[01:36:42] + zer0s after I get off work, I get on this computer which is 100% tui

[01:39:47] + zer0s that looks really nice

[01:40:11] + zer0s i'm sure someone in 1980 wishes they could experience it

[01:40:12] + zer0s lol

[01:40:43] + zer0s I can't imagine having to paint or edit an image with a keyboard

[01:40:55] + zer0s obviously people did it...but it sounds painful

[01:41:06] + zer0s ah nice

[01:41:27] + zer0s ssh is goated

[01:41:58] + zer0s eh I technically use it to stream music from my server

[01:42:39] + zer0s mount the music folder from my server to a local folder using sshfs

[01:42:56] + zer0s and then play file using sox or mpg123

[01:43:15] + zer0s or you can be wasteful and use moc

[01:43:29] + zer0s I literally only have 512mb of ram on this machine so I can't be wasteful

[01:43:43] + zer0s I stream flac files

[01:43:43] + zer0s lol

[01:43:57] + zer0s cpu usage hovers around 2%. totally doable

[01:45:19] + zer0s o_o

[01:45:23] + zer0s sounds trippy

[01:47:57] + zer0s 12kbits/s

[01:47:58] + zer0s XD

[01:48:06] + zer0s just play midi files

[01:50:07] + zer0s its what sounds more sane to me though

[01:50:08] + zer0s lol

[01:53:33] + zer0s I've honestly never used a bbs, so I don't know what the limits are here

[01:53:38] + zer0s predates me

[01:55:24] + zer0s mapscii.me is inspired

[01:55:41] + zer0s haha

[01:56:32] + zer0s ah no more?

[01:56:47] + zer0s oof

[02:06:25] + zer0s glitchy: what are these references?

[02:06:39] + zer0s I don't remember maemo

[02:07:14] + zer0s interesting

[02:07:36] + zer0s symbian lol, what a blast from the past

[02:09:36] + zer0s I recall nokia and microsoft killing everything they made or touched

[02:09:39] + zer0s during that time period

[02:10:04] + zer0s yeah surprising that they chose ARM so early on, very ahead of their time

[02:10:41] + zer0s the last iteration of symbian looks very similar to android back in the day

[02:11:17] + zer0s I'm guessing it wasn't a good platform to keep building on so they scrapped it

[02:11:58] + zer0s well I guess it didn't matter that it wasn't good enough, they were dead in the water in terms of user adoption

[02:12:36] + zer0s I think by the time nokia and microsoft joined, symbian was dead

[02:14:47] + zer0s acorn/arm isn't a great english computer company?

[02:15:48] + zer0s I don't know arm is eating x64's lunch right now

[02:16:09] + zer0s worthy accomplishment

[02:16:47] + zer0s they do the core arch that companies build on

[02:16:54] + zer0s very important

[02:17:06] + zer0s risc-V isn't going to be competitive for a while

[02:17:38] + zer0s I saw the licensing fees for ARM, I thought they'd be brutal, but its overblown

[02:18:00] + zer0s I think ARM is going to be relevant for a long time

[02:18:33] + zer0s I think the community hopes riscV will overtake it

[02:19:29] + zer0s I don't know what license their driver uses

[02:20:17] + zer0s these arm sbcs are problematic in that they will require blobs

[02:20:41] + zer0s no one wants to give up IP

[02:20:45] + zer0s even if it means everyone gains

[02:22:29] + zer0s I used to be more curious about these alternative sbcs (outside of the raspberry foundation), but the support sucks

[02:22:39] + zer0s even nvidia's sbcs support sucks

[02:23:12] + zer0s yeah if you can run anything

[02:23:12] + zer0s lol

[02:23:58] + zer0s I think it goes beyond graphics issues

[02:24:28] + zer0s regardless, their willingness to just drop support after launch makes me not want to purchase lol

[02:25:21] + zer0s eh the world has moved on

[02:25:46] + zer0s this is why I just use lynx on this computer. I also only visit sites that require javascript enables

[02:25:51] + zer0s *enabled

[02:26:33] + zer0s I think its better with caveats

[02:26:42] + zer0s brothchild: that would be nice

[02:27:07] + zer0s hmm

[02:27:26] + zer0s lol

[02:27:56] + zer0s I've honestly stopped complaining about code I don't contribute to anymore lol

[02:28:03] + zer0s being a dev made me too sympathetic

[02:28:32] + zer0s *becoming

[02:29:17] + zer0s ahh

[02:29:20] + zer0s lol, I get it

[02:29:41] + zer0s woodwose: that would be nice

[02:30:25] + zer0s I get the sense these aren't trivial tasks though

[02:30:46] + zer0s they take the aspects I hate about GUI programming and apply them to text

[02:31:08] + zer0s formatting is miserable work and no one respects it

[02:34:53] + zer0s well what do you mean by junk?

[02:36:08] + zer0s that graph looks nice :D

[02:36:30] + zer0s love that its coloured

[02:37:28] + zer0s the problem with most of the graphs I used to need, they tended to require a z plane

[02:38:04] + zer0s I was dealing with heat equations at the time

[02:38:34] + zer0s hmm

[02:38:57] + zer0s still nice work

[02:39:35] + zer0s as for the vertical space waste, I'm afraid I don't see what you mean, but I could be too used to looking at lynx now

[02:41:04] + zer0s very nice graphs brothchild

[02:41:24] + zer0s hi Spookan

[02:41:47] + zer0s brothchild: ooooh I know what you mean now

[02:41:54] + zer0s I totally forgot

[02:42:28] + zer0s you'd almost need to allow some sort of word wrapping to occur

[02:43:36] + zer0s I think their solution was probably a compromise which allows most websites (that aren't javascript restricted) to render correctly

[02:44:04] + zer0s its not fixed, its still a problem

[02:44:23] + zer0s I just forgot about it/accepted it

[02:45:11] + zer0s I like the default color theming

[02:45:54] + zer0s also, the app is more intuitive to me

[02:46:07] + zer0s but most text browsers are fairly similar

[02:48:53] + zer0s I think the reason why more effort isn't put into these text based browsers now, is that more and more websites require javascript, so supporting a dying medium seems pointless

[02:49:32] + zer0s not that I don't think effort didn't go into making them what they are, I just suspect development isn't as active for that reason

[02:49:59] + zer0s exactly

[02:50:22] + zer0s I can't even go to google.com

[02:50:22] + zer0s lol

[02:50:45] + zer0s we just have to appreciate old web while it lasts

[02:53:24] + zer0s lol good on you

[02:53:30] + zer0s for drinking that much water i mean

[02:55:38] + zer0s it honestly keeps me less distracted

[02:55:47] + zer0s its surprising how distracting pictures and videos are

[02:59:49] + zer0s lol

[03:01:27] + zer0s brothchild: mind if I ask what you do for a living? or at least general sector?

[03:01:57] + zer0s ah

[03:03:00] + zer0s nice :)

[03:04:49] + zer0s dev

[03:05:05] + zer0s I'm primarily backend, but I do fullstack

[03:06:14] + zer0s same :)

[03:07:38] + zer0s sure :)

[03:08:06] + zer0s i love ascii/text art

[03:08:51] + zer0s most of the stuff I try to do focuses on making these functional

[03:09:08] + zer0s so less emphasis on making things pretty

[03:09:08] + zer0s lol

[03:09:30] + zer0s hmmm spaghetti

[03:09:33] + zer0s also hi mlu

[03:09:34] + zer0s :)

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