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Tuesday, April 28, 2026
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[00:24:10] + brothchild i think we'll seesing more people writing creative and gramammarries texts due to AI genned slop
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[01:28:44] blitzed more like baffling people with bullshit courtesy of AI SL0P *LOL*
[01:29:21] blitzed AI is probably cranking out it's own Linux distros right?
[01:29:58] blitzed it will all be machine B0RG code and only they can make sense of it hehe
[01:30:47] blitzed it would be cool tho to prune the monolithic kernel of junk not needed forya hardware setup
[01:31:26] blitzed shitcan all the unneeded bloat recompile optimized kthanx
[01:32:07] + brothchild The walls have fallen. Rust got in.
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[01:52:34] + mlu if you introspect into how the system works, you'll notice that a monolithic kernel is required to keep the overhead manageable
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[01:54:11] + mlu the big question is how much of that overhead you're willing to endure to run more things in userspace
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[03:07:17] softdev End3r works for the CIA and is a homosexual.
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[13:06:27] + brothchild https://x0.at/KJSa.png this image has reduced color but still exceeds 400 bytes per line, which gets into problematic message length for IRC. I'm working on machine-learning to reduce it, but it's hard. All the LLMs get super-confused by this problem :)
[13:08:55] + brothchild Algorithm Puzzle: Can you reduce this irc picture to < 401 bytes per line without degrading the image quality? https://x0.at/huVw.un9
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[13:46:08] adrien I have a HP laptop that's nearly 11 years old, but I dont know where to get the repair manual. Am I shit out of luck?
[13:46:21] adrien I wanted to keep it going as long I can because it still works okay
[13:46:39] adrien Im running Debian on it right now
[13:48:19] adrien I tried opening it to replace the aging HDD with an SSD. though it's kind of like a puzzle to get to things
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[14:29:17] Zathras AFAIK HP was never great with such manuals. even the fact that, for an eleven year old hardware, it is not a matter of one to five screws proves that
[14:30:34] Zathras just take pictures each step you take. documenting which bolts you have removed.
[14:31:50] Zathras also, remove any rubber stands, bolts might be hidden below. (use double sided tape to place them back again later)
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[14:34:17] Zathras plus, sometimes, even if one is not able to obtain a repair manual, there are videos describing the steps and sometimes these even help if it is about exactly the same type
[14:36:46] Zathras *"one to five screws proves that" about replacing a HDD/SDD or even RAM
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[14:42:10] Zathras oh, someone left
[14:42:20] adrien someone left?
[14:42:25] adrien i had to reboot my pc
[14:42:28] Zathras adrien: can you please give us the model type?
[14:42:36] Zathras yes, it was adrien :D
[14:42:42] Zathras AFAIK HP was never great with such manuals. even the fact that, for an eleven year old hardware, it is not a matter of one to five screws proves that
[14:42:45] Zathras just take pictures each step you take. documenting which bolts you have removed.
[14:42:48] Zathras also, remove any rubber stands, bolts might be hidden below. (use double sided tape to place them back again later)
[14:42:50] Zathras plus, sometimes, even if one is not able to obtain a repair manual, there are videos describing the steps and sometimes these even help if it is about exactly the same type
[14:42:53] Zathras *"one to five screws proves that" about replacing a HDD/SDD or even RAM
[14:45:01] adrien im not sure what you mean by model type. it's a laptop.
[14:45:22] adrien the serial number is CND5431MG7 if that helps anything.
[14:45:30] adrien i found that via dmi decode.
[14:45:57] adrien i might try what you said and just take pictures of everything
[14:46:04] Zathras no sticker at the bottom?
[14:46:11] adrien most of the labels are worn.
[14:46:20] adrien hard to read
[14:46:26] + Zathras no seperate cover for the HDD on the bottom?
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[14:46:50] adrien the HDD seems to be behind something when i open it, it doesnt have a seperate cover
[14:47:03] adrien i know it's a SATA HDD.
[14:49:14] + Zathras searching for that ser number on support.hp.com reveals:
[14:49:17] + Zathras HP FFlipG1m11C MT8186 11 4GB/32 PC (B1PK2PT)
[14:49:48] + Zathras with that info you might find a manual
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[14:49:56] + brothchild hi Zathras - happy linux-ing!
[14:49:57] + Zathras the HP FFlipG1m11C
[14:50:02] adrien that's not the same one, i tried it
[14:50:02] + Zathras oy brothchild
[14:50:09] adrien I tried that*
[14:50:21] + Zathras hmm
[14:50:23] adrien it's a totally different computer
[14:51:09] adrien I might be able to squeeze some life out of this computer until the HDD dies, but I dont think I'll store anything important on it. I was going to save up for a used thinkpad.
[14:54:09] adrien looking at the motherboard information i see another serial number
[14:54:44] adrien blah
[14:54:52] + Zathras can you share a picture of the laptop's interior? just out of curiousity
[14:55:24] adrien I dont have a screw driver to open it now. also you cant see much when you take the bottom off.
[14:55:34] adrien i misplaced the screw driver
[14:55:39] + Zathras hehe
[14:56:14] + Zathras no hurry. I have to get out soon anyway.
[14:56:44] + Zathras I'll be more present here in about three to four hours, I guess
[14:57:25] adrien thanks, probably what you told me would help if i try opening i again. I actually thought of doing that in the back of my head.
[14:57:28] + brothchild HP stands for 'Hardware Purgatory'
[14:57:44] + brothchild little known trivia
[14:57:59] adrien I'll never buy anything HP again. I only have this one because the computer was a gift.
[14:59:18] + Zathras the high end HP stuff *was* not bad, back in the days. I even have a repair manual for mine.
[14:59:30] + brothchild ok the laserjets were pretty robust
[15:00:00] + Zathras but I have stumbled on so many traps with HP hardware in general throughout the years, it isn't funny
[15:00:03] + brothchild a friend had a nice laserjet 4p and the mechanical feed got dirty so I said 'i can try to fix it' he said 'you can have it'
[15:00:20] + brothchild so i fixed it and yay free high quality postscript printer
[15:00:37] + brothchild i went back to him 'i think it works now, sure you don't want it?'
[15:00:40] + brothchild 'nope'
[15:01:03] + brothchild he needed 100% reliable, i didn't care about 100%
[15:01:14] adrien I saw a video about a HP printer being cheaper than it's replacement ink
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[15:01:43] adrien i dont understand the logic, wouldnt cost more to manufacture a printer versus a ink cartrige?
[15:02:36] adrien though then again, things are pretty cheap to make these days, most of the price you pay at the store is mark up so I guess that explains it.
[15:04:22] adrien they could put a clown sticker on the box to brighten everyones day
[15:05:54] + brothchild i worked in pc hardware many years. knew the whole market
[15:06:21] adrien I find most pc repair places dont know what they're doing
[15:06:32] adrien also refuse to fix things that are really old
[15:07:05] adrien I had a netbook that wouldnt be that hard to fix and they told me it wasnt worth fixing and refused, even though i knew how to make it usable, it was still usable with linux
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[15:31:38] woodwose adrien: are you that gay adrien or another adrien?
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[15:36:59] adrien Im the same adrien.
[15:37:00] + brothchild hot off the presses, better than boobs! https://huggingface.co/z-lab/Qwen3.6-27B-DFlash
[15:37:00] @ glitchy [url] z-lab/Qwen3.6-27B-DFlash · Hugging Face | huggingface.co
[15:37:15] adrien We talked before, woodwose
[15:37:31] woodwose there were several different adriens
[15:37:39] woodwose I am not sure right now which adrien you are
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[15:39:32] adrien Im the one from Canada
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[16:03:52] + brothchild ircguy with an RTX 6000 responded with this https://x0.at/v6PX.mp4
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[21:26:43] + brothchild strong skills or strong benchmaxxing in a A8b model https://huggingface.co/List-cloud/List-3.0-Ultra-Coder-Brain
[21:26:43] @ glitchy [url] List-cloud/List-3.0-Ultra-Coder-Brain · Hugging Face | huggingface.co
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[22:02:04] + brothchild 2020-01-06-Melanie_Mitchell_on_Artificial_Intelligence.opus Douglas Hofstaedter in 2020 "I'm terrified that AI will make human intelligence obsolete -- with cheap tricks" -- Hofstaedter *is* the prophet.
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