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[01:17:55] + brothchild i was online on BITNET in the 1980s

[01:18:06] + brothchild nobody even knows what tf that is

[01:18:20] + brothchild you're all noobs

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[01:41:18] + rdr bitnet's not linux

[01:43:03] & burnout shhh

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[01:45:08] + brothchild i think linux saved bill gates' life

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[02:23:47] + brothchild 128GB strix halo mini desktop announced at $1700, now selling for $2790. THANKS TO YOU KNOW WHO

[02:33:45] & burnout who? End3r?

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[02:40:17] ~ End3r fuck it

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[05:11:58] + brothchild AMD's Lemonade SDK 10.3 Now 10x Smaller By Getting Rid Of Electron \o/

[05:19:10] @ weasel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J691aLfkWP0

[05:19:15] @ weasel .yt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J691aLfkWP0

[05:19:15] Internets :: YouTube Pizza Party: A Command Line Program for Ordering Pizza :: URL https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J691aLfkWP0 (02:14) :: Views 22,210 :: Rating [+] 115 likes [+] 115 likes ::

[05:21:08] @ weasel have you ever wondered if there was a secretary for creating man files

[05:21:23] @ weasel they just sit there writing man files

[05:21:25] @ weasel lol

[05:22:50] + brothchild they're a reference and rarely have useful examples

[05:23:05] + brothchild the tl;dr project aims to address this and should be worked on

[05:23:28] @ weasel lolol

[05:25:19] + brothchild why do you lol?

[05:25:43] + brothchild https://github.com/tldr-pages/tldr

[05:25:43] @ glitchy [url] GitHub - tldr-pages/tldr: Collaborative cheatsheets for console commands 📚. · GitHub | github.com

[05:26:25] @ weasel its just all time time i spent on cent os writing rpms

[05:26:43] + brothchild thanks for your contributions then

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[05:27:03] + brothchild i was a lame person and did not package properly for OS's

[05:27:10] + brothchild i have linux shame for real

[05:27:21] @ weasel its just still the community still uses centos

[05:30:00] + brothchild i'd like to see someone with an appropriate agentic harness audit the tl;dr pages

[05:30:12] + brothchild basic tests

[05:30:31] @ weasel brothchild: ill do it i give you my word

[05:31:08] @ weasel <3

[05:32:34] + brothchild cool

[05:33:06] + brothchild https://www.phoronix.com/news/MTU1NzA 13 years later the Xorg security 'disaster' is still worth considering when choosing your poison-pill

[05:33:06] @ glitchy [url] X Server Security Disaster: "It's Worse Than It Looks" - Phoronix | www.phoronix.com

[05:35:58] @ weasel its no ones fault its the human element and we make mistakes takes time to push updates but its not like its anyone sees the prob its honest i promise you

[05:36:37] + brothchild well i'm on the fence between xorg and wayland

[05:36:39] @ weasel ive done it my self as a dev

[05:36:49] @ weasel wayland lol

[05:36:55] + brothchild i make mistakes all the time and things get left unfinished

[05:37:07] @ weasel its a QA issue

[05:37:15] @ weasel and its ok

[05:37:47] + brothchild Devuan developer "Daemonratte" is working on this gtk2-ng fork to backport various improvements, backport features from other GTK2 forks, eliminating different errors and bugs, ensuring the toolkit is building nicely on the latest GCC compiler, and making other changes.

[05:37:51] + brothchild nice nice

[05:38:49] @ weasel this all started during the pandemic brothchild

[05:39:03] @ weasel community lost good devs

[05:39:39] + brothchild two linux communities i was in were fractured by the plandemic

[05:40:06] @ weasel it was rough but guess what were still here

[05:40:21] @ weasel but the communities were fractured

[05:40:26] @ weasel like you said

[05:41:07] @ weasel good devs were lost that had a vision based on the community

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[05:41:23] + brothchild 'just take the remote-code injection bro!'

[05:41:37] @ weasel lol

[05:43:01] @ weasel brothchild: 4 years 18 months

[05:43:10] @ weasel thats what its going to take

[05:43:27] + brothchild do do what?

[05:43:27] @ weasel mlu will tell you the same thing

[05:43:52] @ weasel to build the community

[05:44:31] @ weasel were only human and AI wont fix it i promise it because of the lack of the QA team

[05:45:03] @ weasel you have a buch of code coming in and your trying to push changes the human element is missing

[05:45:11] @ weasel and you know it <3

[05:45:24] + brothchild your position on this makes sense to me

[05:46:09] @ weasel brothchild: the human element is missing ok its a prob

[05:46:48] + mlu even humans have a hard enough time doing proper QA

[05:46:57] + mlu and it is a task of judgment and accountability

[05:47:31] + mlu the challenge is in even knowing how to define desirable / correct behavior, especially when things conflict

[05:48:28] + brothchild seems to me you need both some degree of open discussion and experience-weighted authority

[05:48:35] + mlu and trust

[05:48:38] + brothchild a balance between the two

[05:48:40] + brothchild ah yes

[05:48:43] + brothchild adversaries

[05:48:57] + mlu back in the old days, the best distros usually actually had a BDFL

[05:49:04] @ weasel <3

[05:49:08] + mlu they would make some controversial decisions, but they clearly favored one result over another

[05:49:25] + mlu the importance thing you got was self-consistency

[05:49:47] + mlu the big paradox is that when eveyrone selects what they want, they choose the best product for them, not one that does the most for most people

[05:50:12] + mlu soi in order to have more of those types of products, you need more opinionated design that need to be self-consistent -- and you need to have some choice

[05:50:23] + mlu that's what we lost

[05:50:45] + mlu another favorite example: wht happened to Apple when Steve Jobs died

[05:50:59] @ weasel lol

[05:51:09] + brothchild mlu seems wise to me

[05:51:19] + mlu the producs started sucking more from a UX perspective, but notice what changed: you could actually get the stuff on launch day despite the hype

[05:51:44] + mlu during the Steve Jobs era, everything was always sold out all the time, and if you wanted an iPhone, you're stuck waiting in draconian lines

[05:51:48] + mlu Tim Cook fixed that

[05:52:05] + mlu that was his opinionated specialty: supply chain management

[05:52:37] + mlu and these days, while al the other manufacturers are suffering due to the RAM prices, Apple's humming along -- uncomfortable but not affected

[05:52:51] @ weasel mlu++

[05:52:52] @ glitchy 🆙 Karma boost! mlu gained 1 karma ✨ (🎯 1 in #linux | 🌐 2 global)

[05:53:02] + brothchild hm i could get 192GB vram system for 2400€

[05:53:15] + brothchild about 450GB/s GDDR6

[05:53:32] + mlu and they effectively multi-sourced every component in their products

[05:53:33] * brothchild ponders the value of $want

[05:53:51] + mlu the way I put it is this: I switched from being an Apple customer to an Apple shareholder :)

[05:54:12] + brothchild apple has successfully curated products with significant margins over costs

[05:54:52] + mlu and it seems like the only market they actually lost was the high end production market

[05:55:09] + mlu that felt like a conscious decision by the execs though

[05:56:02] + brothchild still can't stick an EGPU on an apple mac studio

[05:56:18] + mlu hmm the thunderbolt enclosures don't work?

[05:57:07] + brothchild i haven't seen anyone run a big MoE llama.cpp server on apple egpu+systemram

[05:57:17] + brothchild maybe i'm uninformed though

[05:58:30] + brothchild i thought they didn't have driver support

[05:58:45] @ weasel burnout: request please put mlu on the access list for +a

[05:59:03] @ weasel hes ogt lol

[06:00:01] + brothchild i begged our CIO to let me run a side linux workstation in 1995 and he agreed

[06:00:14] + brothchild that got me a key to the building to 'play more'

[06:00:18] + brothchild i was a pretty happy camper

[06:00:31] + brothchild lived right next to work

[06:00:44] + brothchild within stumbling distance

[06:01:10] @ weasel brothchild: were all human its ok

[06:02:01] @ weasel i cant promise things will improve

[06:02:25] @ weasel and its ok because were learning together

[06:03:01] + based Hello crackers

[06:03:10] @ weasel sup based <3

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[06:04:16] + brothchild now i feel like cracking open a beer

[06:04:29] @ weasel but one thing i will promise is i will build the community and you will know my name <3

[06:04:45] + based I have been linuxing since the beginning of Linux

[06:04:57] @ weasel :D

[06:05:13] + based BUT I always preferred BSD

[06:05:40] + brothchild basedbased

[06:05:47] @ weasel LOL

[06:06:42] @ weasel look at mlu

[06:07:14] @ weasel do you see mlu

[06:08:15] @ weasel i cant talk about much but he has prob done more then i have done in my 19 years on this earth

[06:09:02] + based Think he’d let us borrow some money

[06:09:11] + based ?

[06:09:16] @ weasel $mug based

[06:09:16] @ glitchy weasel: 🔒 The mug game is disabled in #linux. Join #mug to play!

[06:09:22] + based mlu spot me 500usd

[06:09:26] @ weasel lol

[06:11:19] @ weasel happy Saturday <3

[06:15:39] @ weasel everything is fine though just ever time you look at your friend touch his or her hand that were human but the code says who we are and we can see the mistakes but just remember were all human and its ok

[06:18:29] @ weasel 4 years 18 month

[06:18:51] @ weasel thats what its going to take

[06:19:32] + brothchild university of kiel reports potential graphene based transistor with switching frequencies in petaherz scale

[06:19:59] @ weasel brothchild: lol

[06:20:38] + brothchild i didn't study much materials science but some

[06:20:52] @ weasel its not going to work

[06:21:15] @ weasel its just graphene

[06:21:29] @ weasel you want dets?

[06:21:54] + brothchild i can't evaluate these claims

[06:22:16] + brothchild but normally no you cannot make a semiconductor out of graphene

[06:22:27] @ weasel there a a prob

[06:22:31] + brothchild missing that band gap

[06:22:37] @ weasel 20 PHz

[06:22:50] @ weasel 3 um

[06:23:03] @ weasel not sure but there was a resenating frequency

[06:23:17] @ weasel it caused the shit to resinate

[06:23:36] @ weasel so

[06:23:48] @ weasel it broke it self apart

[06:24:14] @ weasel there was a disertation written

[06:25:32] @ weasel the school wont let me share it shit

[06:26:30] + brothchild AWS to take delivery of over a million nvidia gpus

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[06:31:26] brothchild enjoyed your node.js RCE this april?

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[07:11:30] + brothchild looking at hardware

[07:11:32] + brothchild i'm just kinda looking in horror as nothing will ever be affordable for me again

[07:11:40] + brothchild unless i start printing money

[07:13:56] + brothchild if i ever redo my office i'm making a picture frame passive cooler that hangs on the wall

[07:14:03] + brothchild and motherboard just gets hung on the wall, open

[07:14:42] + brothchild https://x0.at/56sW.png like dis

[07:14:54] + brothchild i'll be in my bunk...

[07:16:04] + brothchild https://git.devuan.org/Daemonratte/gtk2-ng gtk2 spring cleaning

[07:16:05] @ glitchy [url] Making sure you're not a bot! | git.devuan.org

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[08:06:44] @ mlu I think there's still an AI bubble

[08:07:00] @ mlu it'll get all affordable again after a while

[08:12:07] + brothchild potaters

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[08:13:45] weasel linux_probe: lololol

[08:13:52] weasel <3

[08:13:53] & linux_probe lol

[08:14:36] @ mlu hello probe :D

[08:15:16] @ mlu I think this AI bubble will burst just like the .com bubble -- the bubbles that result from a combo of both real substance and hype tend to be the largest ones

[08:17:37] & linux_probe yes, it will

[08:19:09] @ mlu problem is, nobody has any idea when lool

[08:20:05] & linux_probe LOOOOOOL

[08:20:18] & linux_probe 90% of youtube = LOOOOOOOL

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[16:36:46] ChanStat (ChanStats): Channel statistics for #linux can be found by going to https://chanstat.net/stats/rizon/%23linux

[16:36:46] @ glitchy [url] 400 Bad Request | chanstat.net

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