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[05:24:03] kryptik limited? that thing is a beast!

[05:24:08] kryptik i have AT clone 286 sitting next to me =0

[05:24:11] kryptik 8 mhz

[05:53:27] kryptik zer0s my AT has 1152mib ram

[05:53:28] kryptik xD

[05:53:31] kryptik kib sorry

[05:53:43] kryptik 640 K conventional memory + 512 K expanded memory on the AST card

[05:54:28] kryptik rdr i run my servers on netbsd actually, its my favorite of the "modern" unix systems

[05:54:52] kryptik kib, not mib

[05:54:54] kryptik i mis wrote

[05:55:03] kryptik that computer is from 1984 lol

[05:55:33] kryptik i like to play my ps2 and ps3

[05:55:38] kryptik tony hawks american wasteland =D

[05:55:53] kryptik i dont like new computers

[05:56:14] kryptik i dont even have any computers that most people would consider modern nowadays =p

[05:56:59] kryptik i dont want something modern, i just want it to run the few programs i need like unrealircd, nginx, etc and not eat a ton of cpu and memory lol

[05:57:11] kryptik netbsd is decent at that, not perfect but better than alternatives

[05:57:22] kryptik most linux distros and freebsd need too much memory

[05:57:28] kryptik my server only has 128 MiB memory and 400 MHz cpu

[05:57:54] kryptik i have mlu, im not as big on linux though =p

[05:58:00] kryptik i use it sometimes for certain things, there are things it does well

[05:58:09] kryptik i just realized what channel im in, i forgot xD

[05:58:33] kryptik the server is a computer i got for $5 from a guy i buy old PC parts and things from

[05:58:38] kryptik super socket 7, AMD K6-2 400 MHz

[05:59:06] kryptik i do use win-XP, 98, etc on many of my desktops, but i make my own patches to fix things like security bugs etc

[05:59:17] kryptik servers i usually dont run windows though

[05:59:30] kryptik by hand, machine language code

[05:59:55] kryptik it can be, its fun and challenging too though =p

[06:00:10] kryptik especially when you get into more advanced things, like i make patches to support newer programs that dont support the older OS

[06:00:23] kryptik those can be very challenging

[06:00:29] kryptik and kernel mode stuff for drivers too

[06:01:17] kryptik my web browser, email client, and any other network connected things all support modern TLS

[06:01:46] kryptik my primary desktop PC is an AMD FX 8 core with 16 gib ram

[06:01:55] kryptik but i have older computers too that i use for other things, which don't do much network-related use

[06:02:11] kryptik TLS isnt as hard as you think though.. my 486 DX2 running DOS can connect to a server with TLS 1.3 in maybe 20 seconds

[06:02:17] kryptik and that 486 has no cache either

[06:02:25] kryptik with cache it would be half that time

[06:02:28] kryptik i need to get cache chips for it

[06:02:45] kryptik ive been using old computers my whole life, i dont mind the speed lol

[06:02:57] kryptik yes, 10mbps is fine for me

[06:03:07] kryptik many of my laptops still have wireless b or wireless g lol

[06:03:08] kryptik no problem for me

[06:03:26] kryptik "different strokes for different folks" as the saying goes

[06:03:51] kryptik i like my room full of antiques with loud clicky hard disks, external scsi stuff, i even have VOIP set up where i can use my modems

[06:04:31] kryptik brothchild: im a fairly casual gamer, i sometimes play tony hawk or GTA on my PS2/PS3 but thats about it

[06:04:39] kryptik my computers are used for computer things like programming etc

[06:04:53] kryptik maybe im a bit crazy then XD

[06:05:29] kryptik i had a programming job once and i showed up to the interview and pulled my pentium mmx laptop running netbsd out of my bag to do the little tasks he wanted me to do to prove my skills xD

[06:05:55] + kryptik no, just php and C programming

[06:06:03] + kryptik i got the job

[06:06:19] + kryptik there was some drama with the other programmer they had though, i think she didnt like me or something.. i wasnt there for long

[06:06:31] + kryptik it was sort of weird, she was living with the owner and his wife

[06:06:47] + kryptik ye lol

[06:06:56] + kryptik but i needed a job

[06:07:39] + kryptik i was there for three months and thats the longest job ive had lol, ive had a hard time

[06:07:47] + kryptik im 23.. entry level market is rough right now

[06:08:34] + kryptik but, i have a friend from the local computer club who is starting a MSP and he wants to hire me once he gets it off the ground.. im hopeful

[06:08:43] + kryptik he says he thinks he might have some work for me by Q3 of this yaer

[06:08:44] + kryptik year*

[06:09:10] + kryptik well, the work ill be doing will be more varied than your typical msp stuff

[06:09:23] + kryptik there will be programming, linux/unix stuff, plus your typical client site support stuff etc

[06:09:43] + kryptik he calls me "the wizard" lol

[06:09:45] + kryptik leet

[06:11:19] + kryptik i dont know if i would want to do full on programming for work

[06:11:33] + kryptik im very ADHD, i think working for my friend's msp will be good for me since it will be varied work

[06:12:17] + kryptik i started doing "real programming" in 2012

[06:12:30] + kryptik in 2013 i started learning assembly and reverse engineering

[06:12:38] + kryptik went straight from java to that lol

[06:12:45] + kryptik java was my first programming language

[06:13:26] + kryptik i just use notepad or something when im writing traditional code (C asm etc)

[06:13:36] + kryptik or just a simple hex editor when im doing the machine language stuff for my old OS's

[06:13:42] + kryptik i dont even have syntax highlighting in my notepad lol

[06:14:00] + kryptik im not a huge vi guy

[06:14:11] + kryptik i can use it, like when i ssh into the unix servers

[06:14:19] + kryptik technically im using Notepad2 which is a sort of "suped up notepad"

[06:14:40] + kryptik i replaced windows\notepad.exe and windows\system32\notepad.exe with the notepad2 version

[06:15:07] + kryptik i zip around on my XP/98/etc boxes, most of my important stuff is in path and i just hit win+r and type notepad for example to open it

[06:15:15] + kryptik or to go to a directory i just win+r and then something like D:\downloads

[06:15:23] + kryptik its much faster than clicking through stuff

[06:15:49] + kryptik i used to be a major linux nut before doing the old windows patches, i used vim a lot

[06:15:58] + kryptik then i started using primarily netbsd on my servers and learned vi

[06:16:01] + kryptik which is a bit clunkier than vim

[06:16:20] + kryptik i have vim on my windows boxes too but i dont use it much

[06:17:19] + kryptik yeah i dont really care about editors either lol, hence the notepad thing

[06:17:39] + kryptik people are always a bit weirded out when i mention that

[06:17:59] + kryptik i also dont use version control, thats another thing that people get weirded out over lol

[06:18:17] + kryptik i had been programming for like 5 or 6 years before i even knew about git, cvs etc

[06:18:23] + kryptik so i just never really adopted it

[06:18:35] + kryptik thats what i do sometimes mlu

[06:18:44] + kryptik though i normally use date+time instead of 2 3 etc

[06:19:08] + kryptik i tried git for a while but its tedious for me

[06:19:24] + kryptik also, remember a lot of my programming is machine code patches for the old systems and programs

[06:19:31] + kryptik git can have issues with binary files

[06:19:47] + kryptik also i dont like how git doesnt keep the modified date on the file

[06:19:58] + kryptik when i just clone the folder it keeps all the dates in tact

[06:20:31] + kryptik im sure i could set up some automation thing where it copies all the dates into a file and then restores them when i revert the commit or something lol

[06:20:44] + kryptik im a simple fellow, my way of doing things works for me

[06:21:01] + kryptik yeah i dunno lol

[06:21:29] + kryptik well, often i will view my files on my PC sorting by date

[06:21:36] + kryptik i dont like things that screw with the file timestamps

[06:22:23] + kryptik here is an example of how i do "version control", see how the folders just have date + time https://i.imgur.com/eErBcMa.png

[06:23:31] + kryptik also im not working with other people or anything, i will say that if you have 1000 people working on a project, vcs is a neccessity

[06:23:48] + kryptik for me personally, i like to just keep everything on my file server and have copies of all the different versions like that

[06:24:35] + kryptik i do release everything i make source code etc, but when i do its just a zip or tarball on my FTP server with the date and time

[06:25:25] + kryptik i used to have a github account but i deleted it a few years ago

[06:25:42] + kryptik i still get spam in my email sometimes from people who scraped my github username, i guess it ended up in some marketing/scam dataset

[06:25:46] + kryptik github email*

[06:27:10] + kryptik i dont like centralized stuff, i will always prefer having my own FTP server

[06:27:24] + kryptik i think the internet has moved too far into "posting things on a service" instead of sharing your works on your own site/server

[06:28:07] + kryptik i get hundreds of thousands a month but 95% of those are probably AI crawler bots etc

[06:28:29] + kryptik i dont have anything like cloudflare or ddos-guard, i am philosophically against those, so my server and network raw dogs any connections i get lol

[06:28:58] + kryptik sure

[06:29:20] + kryptik well, im in a bit of a unique position since im 23 but ive been doing computer stuff before i could even read, i was deep into internet culture as soon as we could get our first internet connection in 2007 lol

[06:29:28] + kryptik so i grew up with the old internet back when it was very decentralized still

[06:29:34] + kryptik and you were expected to have computer/internet knowledge

[06:29:38] + kryptik on forums etc

[06:29:54] + kryptik ye, i wish i could have experienced that

[06:30:00] + kryptik alas i was not born yet

[06:30:01] + kryptik =p

[06:30:45] + kryptik my cousin used to think the npc bots on starwars battlefront 2 were real people when we played as kids

[06:30:47] + kryptik it was a simpler time

[06:31:15] + kryptik mlu i grew up in poverty and my mom was 40 when she had me, i got into computers of my own volition lol

[06:31:42] + kryptik i saw one and decided i wanted to do that, but we had no money so i would pull broken ones out of the trash and figure out how to fix them up.. thats where my interest in old computers started

[06:31:47] + kryptik and it never stopped lol

[06:32:04] + kryptik we live on food stamps and disability, even still since ive yet to find a reliable job and move out

[06:32:20] + kryptik i hope the work with my friend's MSP works out =0

[06:32:26] + kryptik my mom is a hoarder and i cant stand to live here much longer lol

[06:32:27] + kryptik i love her but its hard

[06:32:45] + kryptik also just need to be independent.. im 23 xD

[06:33:42] + kryptik poverty line metric is interesting, if the formula to calculate it were updated to match the modern world, it would be at $126,000/yr by my calculations

[06:34:19] + kryptik my mom and i have a total income of less than $1,000 / mo i believe

[06:35:07] + kryptik we're living with my aunt right now, we had a little 900sqft house in the ghetto but a pipe burst and flooded it and we cant afford to fix it

[06:35:30] + kryptik my aunt's house is nice, i think its about 1200 sqft 3 bedroom, but my mom filled it to the brim with junk.. =(

[06:36:03] + kryptik i interviewed for a help desk job with the local state government before but i didnt get it

[06:36:23] + kryptik mlu we dont even have a living room couch or dining room table because there is just garbage piled to the ceilings

[06:36:28] + kryptik have to turn sideways to get through the hallways

[06:36:31] + kryptik cant even see the walls

[06:36:57] + kryptik i have a habit of hanging on to old computer parts etc but i try not to let it get out of hand lol, after living with my mom

[06:37:26] + kryptik ye, all the junk of my mom's has never even been used or touched, it just accumulates more and more with time

[06:37:52] + kryptik well, like for example i fired up the 286 AT clone yesterday and the disk controller caught on fire

[06:37:59] + kryptik if not for hoarding parts i wouldnt have had a spare

[06:38:00] + kryptik lol

[06:39:06] + kryptik i am compiling the latest gcc 15 under my cygwin fork on my XP box right now xD

[06:39:15] + kryptik with my cygwin fork i can run modern unix/linux programs on the old windows systems

[06:40:01] + kryptik i implemented some of the newer posix things, i still need to fix the 2038 date bug though

[06:40:03] + kryptik ill do that soon

[06:40:35] + kryptik so like, i cant run modern python for example since one of the libraries it needs refuses to build unless your system has the 2038 date bug fixed

[06:40:44] + kryptik i could modify it to make it build but i'd rather do it cleanly and just fix the bug

[06:41:04] + kryptik send em my way

[06:41:10] + kryptik i go through so many cd's and dvd's lol

[06:41:27] + kryptik i buy blanks at goodwill any time i come across them

[06:41:31] + kryptik ah

[06:41:38] + kryptik mine are mostly verbatim and fujifilm

[06:41:56] + kryptik are those the ones that are see through because of how cheaply made they are?

[06:41:58] + kryptik lol

[06:43:15] + kryptik well most you can see through a tiny bit, but there was some cheap brand i came across once that were practically like glass

[06:43:22] + kryptik not a single burn i did with those worked

[06:43:34] + kryptik CMC magnetics rings a bell, it might have been them

[06:43:44] + kryptik ye lol probs

[06:44:36] + kryptik interesting, so the old burn on minimum or burn on half advice doesnt apply there?

[06:44:48] + kryptik i need to learn more about optical drives and media, its like voodoo to me

[06:45:13] + kryptik linux_probe i want to make my own firmware to allow burning the BCA

[06:45:23] + kryptik if i can do that then i can make burnt ps1 and ps2 games that run on a non-modded console

[06:45:37] + kryptik i didnt linux_probe, im 23 but remember ive been doing computer stuff since like 2005 lol

[06:45:55] + kryptik luckily i dont think ive ran into safedisc or whatever it was that had the clunky driver

[06:46:20] kryptik im using green on black on my mIRC

[06:46:27] kryptik and i have a CRT monitor so its similar

[06:46:33] + kryptik not exact though since its a color monitor with mask

[06:46:45] + kryptik i love them

[06:46:50] + kryptik they dont hurt my eyes as bad as flat panels

[06:47:16] + kryptik i avoid flat panels, everything i have is CRT other than laptops

[06:47:40] + kryptik my friend dropped one that i bought when we were leaving the scrap place lol

[06:47:46] + kryptik it shattered and emploded

[06:48:04] + kryptik luckily he was fine, it was a 21" that weighs about 70lbs and if it was much closer it would have landed on his head when he fell

[06:48:17] + kryptik i grew up with them

[06:48:22] + kryptik and i just never stopped, like with the old computers

[06:48:43] + kryptik i learned how to fix and service them too so i can keep using them for the rest of my life

[06:49:31] + kryptik would you like to see a photo of my setup?

[06:49:52] + kryptik hold on

[06:50:43] + kryptik brothchild https://i.imgur.com/oUb8uwE.jpeg

[06:50:49] + kryptik this photo is old so its changed a bit but there you go

[06:51:31] + kryptik i know lol

[06:51:39] + kryptik if i take a photo on my camera with a flash you might think its just an old phoo

[06:51:43] + kryptik photo*

[06:51:46] + kryptik i didnt have the flash on in that photo

[06:52:12] + kryptik thats the sound blaster live drive

[06:52:14] + kryptik its connected to the sound card

[06:52:23] + kryptik thats just an old server i got for free

[06:52:24] + kryptik two of them

[06:52:47] + kryptik dell poweredge r710 and hp dl385p gen8

[06:52:49] + kryptik both were free

[06:53:15] + kryptik i have so many CRTs

[06:53:30] + kryptik im always going on adventures hunting for computers, CRTs, parts, etc

[06:53:43] + kryptik i ended up in this abandoned greenhouse once that was full of probably thousands of CRT monitors

[06:53:51] + kryptik the guy was giving them all away for free

[06:55:29] + kryptik here is a photo of the CRT greenhouse https://i.imgur.com/7Rtzo6O.png

[06:55:35] + kryptik thats just one corner, it was huge

[06:56:43] + kryptik the PC on the left with the 5.25 is my 486-DX2

[06:56:58] + kryptik on the right is the AMD FX 8 core system im typing from right now

[06:57:01] + kryptik running XP with my patches

[06:57:07] + kryptik no, ill search it up

[06:57:31] + kryptik ty for telling me =)

[06:59:02] + kryptik i joined retronode

[06:59:13] + kryptik my 21" monitors like the one im typing from right now can all do 1600x1200

[06:59:29] + kryptik but the sharpness can be a bit fuzzy at high resolutions sometimes

[06:59:39] + kryptik well, the CPU is 64-bit but the OS isnt lol

[06:59:53] + kryptik i did patch the kernel to use PAE so i can use the entire 16 GiB RAM though

[07:00:16] + kryptik the physical address space is 36-bit that way, but you still are limited to 4 GiB per process since the virtual addressing isnt changed

[07:00:42] + kryptik i know mlu, but it's actually based on windows server 2003 x64

[07:01:01] + kryptik so, 64-bit XP can have incompatibilities for some programs, and it also doesnt have drivers for all of my hardware such as the sound card or scsi controller

[07:01:10] + kryptik thus, i prefer the 32-bit version

[07:01:14] + kryptik its what ive been using since 2005

[07:01:48] + kryptik i got the AMD FX 8350, a nice motherboard, and 16 GiB RAM for $15

[07:01:57] + kryptik i like good deals like that, im thrifty

[07:02:21] + kryptik people dont like the FX since it has 8 cores but only 4 FPUs

[07:02:28] + kryptik but remember im living in 1990s so in my world FPU is optional

[07:02:29] + kryptik XD

[07:03:01] + kryptik ye, i had to add lots of fans to my PC since it runs hot with the power usage

[07:03:15] + kryptik thus, the 5.25 cooling bay thing you saw in my photo

[07:03:49] + kryptik i used to have a computer with dual processor pentium 2 450mhz, 10,000 RPM scsi hard disk, voodoo 3 agp video card, running NT4

[07:03:54] + kryptik i dont have it anymore =(

[07:04:15] + kryptik back then the voodoo 3 was worthless, now people want like $300 for them on ebay lol

[07:04:44] + kryptik the AMD FX 8350 is a monster by my standards

[07:04:53] + kryptik esp. running XP and mostly 15+ year old programs

[07:05:44] + kryptik why?

[07:06:21] + kryptik maybe you werent here when i mentioned it but i make my own patches to fix things like security bugs

[07:06:40] + kryptik and i dont really want modern software, the old programs are very reliable and user friendly for me

[07:07:06] + kryptik i know, i do have linux on some servers xD

[07:07:19] + kryptik the topic started earlier because i clicked into the wrong channel without realizing XD

[07:07:39] + kryptik i have like 800 different IRC servers and channels open right now

[07:07:51] + kryptik https://i.imgur.com/cnxNlFq.png

[07:07:55] + kryptik that is what im looking at

[07:08:02] + kryptik look at all the channels on the left/top

[07:08:37] + kryptik i normally dont have as many open but ive been exploring a bit tonight seeing what channels are out there on different networks

[07:09:46] + kryptik mirc is awesome

[07:10:24] + kryptik i know its unpopular now but i like mdi interfaces like mirc

[07:10:36] + kryptik its very nice so you dont clutter the taskbar with 8000 different windows

[07:10:44] + kryptik keeps all of the windows in their own program

[07:10:59] + kryptik i would actually rather mdi over tabs for things like my browser even

[07:11:04] + kryptik im not a big fan of tabs or modal interfaces

[07:11:20] + kryptik maybe some day ill make my own browser fork that has a custom mdi interface lol

[07:12:18] + kryptik that should be easy to find mlu

[07:12:30] + kryptik awesome brothchild

[07:13:13] + kryptik mlu have you tried pcem or 86box?

[07:13:22] + kryptik if your computer is fast enough, you can emulate something like a pentium PC

[07:13:28] + kryptik and its real emulation of the period hardware, not a VM

[07:13:45] + kryptik i have ran windows 98 in pcem emulating a pentium with 3dfx voodoo and played quake on it sometimes

[07:14:39] + kryptik im not a huge emulation guy, i like real hardware

[07:15:05] + kryptik i have this vision in my head once i can get a stable job and my ownapartment of what my setup will look like

[07:15:15] + kryptik all the old computers, scsi, networking stuff etc

[07:15:54] + kryptik it depends what you mean by "practical," i use all of my computers equally really

[07:16:11] + kryptik i dont really do much social media or www etc, my computer use is mostly things like programming

[07:17:21] + kryptik where i live power is very cheap by USA standards

[07:17:24] + kryptik so im not too concerned with power usage

[07:17:52] + kryptik $0.09629 / kWh in my town

[07:18:08] + kryptik well, luckily things like 486 286 6502 etc dont use much power

[07:18:19] + kryptik it was only once the ghz wars started they really began cranking them up

[07:18:42] + kryptik 486 DX2 66 MHz tdp - 5 W

[07:19:18] + kryptik i hate display scaling, so if the resolution is too high like 4k then it isnt suitable

[07:19:25] + kryptik i like pixel perfect bitmap fonts

[07:22:47] + kryptik lol, i remember complaining about lag in global chat on a MMORPG and some guy PM'd me saying the human eye cant see more than 30 fps so i should lock my fps at 30

[07:25:26] + kryptik i think my primary laptop can run for about 10 minutes on a full charge

[07:25:27] + kryptik xD

[07:25:33] + kryptik i always use my laptop plugged in though so its fine

[07:26:06] + kryptik i have the thinkpad x60 also running XP with my patches

[07:26:17] + kryptik its the weird core solo version thats like a mobile prescott pentium 4

[07:26:18] + kryptik it runs so hot

[07:26:19] + kryptik lol

[07:48:04] + kryptik moo

[07:48:07] + kryptik moo

[07:48:13] + kryptik lame

[07:53:03] + kryptik on tonight's episode of history channel's ancient aliens, ancient astronaut theorists believe that the earth may have been created by a highly advanced extraterrestrial named bob

[07:57:18] + kryptik thats awesome

[08:06:35] + kryptik soz, i was afk

[08:06:51] + kryptik brick wall generator? for text art?

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