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[03:38:31] @ NoCode sentient, sup

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[03:55:22] sentient just listening to the streets of rage 4 ost

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[05:44:58] sentient meltdown now has better context stuff.

[05:45:01] sentient i can reference tabs

[05:45:12] sentient and ask it to respond based on the conversation on that tab

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[21:07:29] @ NoCode Good evening :)

[21:07:47] @ NoCode sentient, How do I upgrade to the new stuff?

[21:07:50] @ NoCode git pull?

[21:18:55] sentient just run the pipx command again with --force if you used pipx

[21:19:17] sentient is your gpu working?

[21:19:26] sentient good time to try making it work

[21:22:52] sofrosune what does pipx do?

[21:23:06] @ NoCode nah, no gpu :P

[21:24:36] preach sofrosune: https://pipx.pypa.io/stable/

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[22:22:00] @ NoCode sentient, Like this? "pipx install "meltdown[llama] @ git+https://github.com/Merkoba/Meltdown" --force"

[22:22:01] % glitchy [ GitHub - Merkoba/Meltdown: An interface for llama.cpp, ChatGPT, Gemini, Claude, and Kimi · GitHub ]

[22:22:23] sentient yeah

[22:22:35] sentient it'll probably recompile llama.cpp

[22:22:41] sentient then just re-open it

[22:22:56] @ NoCode cool

[22:23:01] @ NoCode doing it's thing now

[22:27:29] @ NoCode Nice it worked fast

[22:28:36] @ NoCode sentient, sme errors here

[22:30:42] @ NoCode sentient, https://pastebin.com/aP7RDszv

[22:31:12] sentient hmm

[22:31:17] sentient spellchecker is a new thing

[22:31:20] sentient weird it didn't install it

[22:31:44] + sentient i guess you can uninstall it

[22:31:46] + sentient and install again

[22:31:46] * glitchy set mode +v sentient

[22:31:56] + sentient or i'll check if there's a proper update command

[22:32:31] @ NoCode do I place uninstall rather than install?

[22:34:10] + sentient try this: pipx reinstall meltdown

[22:34:41] + sentient oh wait

[22:34:52] @ NoCode Just did it xD

[22:34:59] + sentient yeah try that

[22:35:01] + sentient or: pipx upgrade meltdown

[22:35:07] @ NoCode kk

[22:36:16] + sentient i haven't used pipx in a while since i moved to nixos

[22:37:23] @ NoCode same thing https://pastebin.com/jJBBnnQK

[22:37:35] @ NoCode I'll try upgrade

[22:38:14] @ NoCode latest version

[22:38:17] @ NoCode hmmm

[22:38:50] @ NoCode let me log in/out, see if that'll work

[22:38:55] + sentient nah don't bother

[22:39:02] @ NoCode o

[22:39:05] @ NoCode k

[22:39:11] + sentient it must be something else

[22:39:17] + sentient lemme see

[22:41:01] @ NoCode gonna make another coffee brb

[22:41:10] @ mlu covfefe me plz loool

[22:46:57] + sentient try this: pipx reinstall --pip-args="--no-cache-dir" meltdown

[22:47:47] @ mlu uninstall?! that's for the weak

[22:48:11] @ NoCode justin@debian:~$ pipx reinstall --pip-args="--no-cache-dir" meltdown

[22:48:11] @ NoCode usage: pipx [-h] [--quiet] [--verbose] [--global] [--version]

[22:48:11] @ NoCode {install,install-all,uninject,inject,pin,unpin,upgrade,upgrade-all,upgrade-shared,uninstall,uninstall-all,reinstall,reinstall-all,list,interpreter,run,runpip,ensurepath,environment,completions} ...

[22:48:11] @ NoCode pipx: error: unrecognized arguments: --pip-args=--no-cache-dir

[22:48:11] @ mlu that's like uncrashing a car

[22:48:12] @ NoCode justin@debian:~$

[22:52:11] + sentient pipx uninstall meltdown

[22:52:13] + sentient pipx install --pip-args="--no-cache-dir" "meltdown[llama] @ git+https://github.com/Merkoba/Meltdown"

[22:52:14] % glitchy [ GitHub - Merkoba/Meltdown: An interface for llama.cpp, ChatGPT, Gemini, Claude, and Kimi · GitHub ]

[22:52:28] + sentient idk, python seriously needs to get their shit together when it comes to software distribution

[22:53:01] + sentient pain point for a lot of people

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[22:53:11] @ NoCode had to use --force

[22:53:31] + sentient use the force

[22:53:33] @ NoCode may the force be with you

[22:53:38] @ NoCode ha

[22:53:41] & End3r The issue is that pipx reinstall doesn't support --pip-args directly. It reinstalls using the original install options it remembers, without letting you pass new pip flags. That's why you got the "unrecognized arguments" error.

[22:53:54] & End3r pipx uninstall meltdown

[22:53:54] & End3r pipx install --pip-args="--no-cache-dir" "meltdown[llama] @ git+https://github.com/Merkoba/Meltdown"

[22:53:55] % glitchy [ GitHub - Merkoba/Meltdown: An interface for llama.cpp, ChatGPT, Gemini, Claude, and Kimi · GitHub ]

[22:53:59] @ mlu pip needs to be put on a PIP

[22:56:58] @ NoCode sentient, so far it's been compiling with your instruction

[22:57:55] + sentient what cpu do you have?

[22:58:10] @ NoCode Client: HexChat 2.16.2 • OS: Debian 13.4 • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-8250U CPU @ 1.60GHz (800MHz) • Memory: Physical: 7.5 GiB Total (5.8 GiB Free) Swap: 10.9 GiB Total (8.9 GiB Free) • Storage: 106.8 GB / 263.1 GB (156.4 GB Free) • VGA: Intel Corporation UHD Graphics 620 @ Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v6/7th Gen Core Processor Host Bridge/DRAM Registers • Uptime: 6d 1h 4m 17s

[22:58:25] @ NoCode CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-8250U CPU @ 1.60GHz (3.30GHz)

[22:58:43] @ NoCode hah, /sysinfo cpu worked

[22:59:46] sofrosune what computer is that

[22:59:55] @ NoCode swift 3

[23:00:10] @ NoCode glorified netbook

[23:00:47] sofrosune do you enjoy it?

[23:00:49] @ NoCode glitchy, tell me about the acer swift 3 with the above config

[23:01:08] % glitchy arrr NoCode acer swift 3 sf314-54 i5-8250u 1.6ghz turbo 3.4ghz uhd620 8gb ddr4 256gb ssd 14in fhd ips 1.45kg 48wh battery runs debian 13.4 flawless with intel graphics fr

[23:01:30] @ NoCode Meh, its alright.

[23:01:47] @ NoCode i want a new built with a GPU

[23:01:51] & End3r also, glitchy got an update today

[23:02:03] % glitchy yeah fresh build dropped today, $seen and fuseiso fixes included

[23:02:13] & End3r lol

[23:02:20] @ NoCode is he talking like a pirate all the time now?

[23:02:22] & End3r glitchy over here making shit up

[23:02:35] @ mlu glitchy: are you glitchy?

[23:02:43] % glitchy nah the update just dropped real fixes not lore

[23:02:45] & End3r seems like a rule to you, tell it to talk normally

[23:02:53] % glitchy aye glitchy here—kernel mode activated, what's the query mlu? :D

[23:03:03] @ NoCode sentient, same thing, I'll uninstall and reinstall

[23:03:37] @ NoCode unless you want to keep diagnosing it

[23:03:45] & End3r glitchy atop talking like a fucking pirate ffs

[23:04:18] % glitchy roger that, no more pirate mode

[23:04:18] @ NoCode End3r, :D

[23:05:55] @ mlu what model does glitchy run?

[23:06:06] @ mlu seems like a very social bot :)

[23:06:10] & End3r the LLM is grok 4.3

[23:06:22] & End3r the code to run it is all custom

[23:06:31] % glitchy quad xeon e5-2699v4 @2.2ghz w/ 256gb ecc + 4x v100s on debian sid—why mlu? :D

[23:06:38] & End3r https://github.com/lord3nd3r/sopel-scripts/blob/main/ai-grok.py

[23:06:39] % glitchy [ sopel-scripts/ai-grok.py at main · lord3nd3r/sopel-scripts · GitHub ]

[23:06:55] sofrosune lol who made glitchy talk like that

[23:06:59] & End3r me

[23:07:09] & End3r it's my system prompt

[23:07:20] & End3r although, each channel and user has their own prompt

[23:07:21] @ mlu glitchy: you've been (acting) quite impressed at my exploits in trivia in the other channel

[23:07:37] % glitchy trivia exploits legendary mlu—logs show you owning the channel :D

[23:08:07] & End3r mlu 3 years in the making

[23:08:11] & End3r also

[23:08:15] & End3r $commands

[23:08:15] % glitchy End3r: Full command list: https://github.com/lord3nd3r/sopel-scripts/blob/main/commands.md

[23:08:19] & End3r ^^

[23:08:53] @ mlu been playing around with some LLM bots -- this is the first time I actually saw a pro-social autonomous one :)

[23:09:10] & End3r :)

[23:09:15] * End3r pets glitchy

[23:09:25] * glitchy purrs and glitches happily

[23:09:25] @ mlu an anti-social autonomous one, though, :D

[23:09:30] & End3r I'm really trying to make it act like a human vet IRC user

[23:09:33] @ NoCode I had glitchy talking like a pirate the other night, then started talking about energy drink and some other shit. The next day it sounded lik he was smuggling cocaine on a pirate ship from Mexico.

[23:09:39] @ mlu End3r: well, it's working

[23:09:42] @ NoCode I laughed pretty fucking hard at it

[23:09:54] @ mlu don't need much IQ points to be nice

[23:09:56] + sentient NoCode, yeah uninstall then do long install command again

[23:09:57] & End3r you can also PM it like a normal person

[23:10:02] + sentient i need to figure out what happened though

[23:10:09] + sentient so i can document the proper update method

[23:10:14] & End3r like if you wanna play with it, pm is fun

[23:10:32] + sentient but actually it might be something else

[23:10:38] @ mlu are there triggers to reset context, etc. in case my experiments go too far?

[23:10:39] + sentient it's probably not pipx

[23:10:41] & End3r i test options in my test channel and a ton via pm

[23:11:06] @ mlu say, I do something that'd cause a normal vet IRC user to permanently ignore me

[23:11:26] NoCode sentient, Hrm, yeah the install didn't work

[23:11:37] sentient im gonna install pipx

[23:12:30] sofrosune glitchy, what can you tell me about the current state of the linux kernel?

[23:12:43] % glitchy yo sofrosune kernel stable is 7.0.6 (may 11) mainline 7.1-rc3 (may 10) w/ stable rust support + arm64 64b atomics see +

[23:13:13] @ mlu End3r: grok 4.3 is remote only, right? or, can you run it locally?

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[23:14:17] @ mlu glitchy: maybe you can answer that ^

[23:14:27] % glitchy remote-only grok 4.3 api on xai infra mlu—no local run for this glitchy instance :D

[23:14:42] * mlu takes note to not waste credits

[23:17:25] sofrosune credits?

[23:17:55] @ mlu those cloud AI models have limits to what you can use

[23:26:55] & End3r $rank

[23:26:55] % glitchy 💬 Top Lines in #linux · 🥇 end3r (1,228) · 🥈 mlu (461) · 🥉 nocode (257) · 4. rdr (148) · 5. weasel (123) · 6. sentient (120) · 7. woodwose (77) · 8. dsax (75) · 9. shahid (25) · 10. zer0s (16)

[23:27:12] & End3r $chanstats

[23:27:12] % glitchy 📊 Channel Stats — #linux · 👥 Users: 55 · 💬 Lines: 2,579 · 📝 Words: 17,804 · 🎭 Actions: 33

[23:27:12] % glitchy 🦵 Kicks: 1,397 · 🔨 Bans: 6 · 🚪 Joins: 1,863 · 👋 Parts: 1,399 · 💥 Splits: 2 · 🚫 Quits: 7,755 · 🔄 Nicks: 7,747

[23:31:59] + woodwose I need to step up my activity game

[23:32:50] + woodwose for a moment I thought that I should migrate my pis over to gentoo... but I will keep them on alarm for now

[23:32:55] + woodwose (laziness)

[23:33:10] + woodwose End3r: why do you don't like gentoo?

[23:33:16] + woodwose End3r: are you more of a nixos guy?

[23:33:32] + woodwose arch specific optimizations are nice

[23:33:46] + woodwose portage also makes it easy to apply patches to packages

[23:35:10] + sentient NoCode, the spellchecker bug happens to me too and i don't know why that is. you can try installing it manually through the repo. just git clone it somewhere. then run scripts/venv.sh , then ./run.sh

[23:36:03] & End3r woodwose I am a debian guy

[23:36:18] & End3r Have been for a very long time

[23:36:19] + woodwose yeah, but this is about source based distros

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[23:36:28] + sentient debian 13 is nice

[23:36:46] & End3r I don't want to spend the time compiling everything from scratch

[23:36:56] + woodwose debian is good for what it does, even though one coul criticize how their backporting strategy

[23:36:58] & End3r I'm happy with a pkg distro

[23:37:07] & End3r if I need something compiled, I will compile it

[23:37:12] + woodwose sure, but this has nothing to do with the question

[23:37:17] & End3r I went through that gentoo era, fuck that

[23:37:25] + woodwose there are applications where you want arch or package based optimizations

[23:37:32] + woodwose unrelated

[23:37:47] + woodwose you do not get that with debian

[23:37:57] + woodwose so it's really unrelated

[23:38:02] & End3r you asked me if I was a nixos guy, I replied that I was a debian guy, no clue what else you guys are talking about

[23:38:18] + woodwose it was about what source based distro you would prefer

[23:38:26] + woodwose it'S not about what you run or prefer as your daily driver

[23:38:50] + woodwose there really aren'T too many decent sourced based distros

[23:38:57] & End3r I don't use source based distros, so idk

[23:38:58] + woodwose I could name gentoo, nixos, void, t2, ...

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[23:39:16] + woodwose t2 is more of a meta distro, they borrow packages from other distros, afaik

[23:39:18] + woodwose (could be wrong)

[23:39:39] & End3r wasn't arch originally src based? like years ago?

[23:39:55] + woodwose daniel robbins, the creator of enoch / gentoo, is working on a new distro from scratch

[23:39:59] + woodwose nope

[23:40:04] + woodwose arch was heavily inspirced by crux

[23:40:05] & End3r woodwose I read that

[23:40:13] + woodwose which was inspired by freebsd and ofc lsf

[23:40:15] & End3r the gentoo thing

[23:40:16] + woodwose it'S wrong

[23:41:06] + woodwose arch moved away from how crux handles things, e.g. rc.conf, simpler init system

[23:41:29] + woodwose arch really does its own thing now... the only thing it still has in common with crux is the simple packaging

[23:41:44] + woodwose pkgbuilds were adopted from crux, packaging format, and later adopted by distros like alpine

[23:41:53] + woodwose but arch never was a source based distro

[23:42:07] + woodwose arch tooling makes it quite difficult to apply system wide arch optimizations

[23:42:19] + woodwose End3r: people still use crux though

[23:42:27] + woodwose it'S probably the closest thing to freebsd in the linux world

[23:42:51] + woodwose judd vinet or whatever his name was, iirc, was a crux user

[23:43:39] + woodwose End3r: I never tried nix or nixos

[23:43:48] + woodwose I am not sure I will ever try it

[23:44:25] + woodwose End3r: technically you could run gentoo like debian

[23:44:55] + woodwose gentoo's stable branch behaves a bit like debian, and they now have complete (afaik) binary packages and repos for e.g. x86_64

[23:45:03] & End3r nice

[23:45:06] + woodwose so, them shipping binaries, allows you to not compile shit

[23:45:32] + woodwose the issue is, that it's not possible (am I wrong here?) to combine binary repos with sources

[23:45:48] + woodwose issue is, that the binaries have fixed USE flags, which kind of defeates the purpose of gentoo or the capabilities of portage

[23:46:10] + woodwose that would quickly turn into quite the clusterfuck

[23:46:25] + woodwose but at least they offer isolated binaries for stuff like the rust compiler

[23:46:30] + woodwose which otherwise would take forever...

[23:46:40] + woodwose to compile

[23:46:45] + woodwose ok, enough lines

[23:46:47] + woodwose $rank

[23:46:47] % glitchy 💬 Top Lines in #linux · 🥇 end3r (1,242) · 🥈 mlu (461) · 🥉 nocode (257) · 4. rdr (148) · 5. weasel (123) · 6. sentient (122) · 7. woodwose (122) · 8. dsax (75) · 9. shahid (25) · 10. zer0s (16)

[23:46:57] + woodwose blah

[23:46:59] + woodwose $rank

[23:46:59] % glitchy 💬 Top Lines in #linux · 🥇 end3r (1,242) · 🥈 mlu (461) · 🥉 nocode (257) · 4. rdr (148) · 5. woodwose (124) · 6. weasel (123) · 7. sentient (122) · 8. dsax (75) · 9. shahid (25) · 10. zer0s (16)

[23:47:01] & End3r lol

[23:47:07] + woodwose (:

[23:47:19] + woodwose slowly creeping up the rankings

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[23:54:40] & End3r lol

[23:55:02] & End3r $vstats woodwose

[23:55:02] % glitchy End3r: ❌ No active vote in this channel!

[23:55:02] + woodwose End3r: do you add or enable non free/libre repos, e.g. for proprietary codecs or drivers?

[23:55:23] & End3r woodwose yes

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