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Wednesday, May 13, 2026

[23:31:59] + woodwose I need to step up my activity game

[23:32:50] + woodwose for a moment I thought that I should migrate my pis over to gentoo... but I will keep them on alarm for now

[23:32:55] + woodwose (laziness)

[23:33:10] + woodwose End3r: why do you don't like gentoo?

[23:33:16] + woodwose End3r: are you more of a nixos guy?

[23:33:32] + woodwose arch specific optimizations are nice

[23:33:46] + woodwose portage also makes it easy to apply patches to packages

[23:36:19] + woodwose yeah, but this is about source based distros

[23:36:56] + woodwose debian is good for what it does, even though one coul criticize how their backporting strategy

[23:37:12] + woodwose sure, but this has nothing to do with the question

[23:37:25] + woodwose there are applications where you want arch or package based optimizations

[23:37:32] + woodwose unrelated

[23:37:47] + woodwose you do not get that with debian

[23:37:57] + woodwose so it's really unrelated

[23:38:18] + woodwose it was about what source based distro you would prefer

[23:38:26] + woodwose it'S not about what you run or prefer as your daily driver

[23:38:50] + woodwose there really aren'T too many decent sourced based distros

[23:38:58] + woodwose I could name gentoo, nixos, void, t2, ...

[23:39:16] + woodwose t2 is more of a meta distro, they borrow packages from other distros, afaik

[23:39:18] + woodwose (could be wrong)

[23:39:55] + woodwose daniel robbins, the creator of enoch / gentoo, is working on a new distro from scratch

[23:39:59] + woodwose nope

[23:40:04] + woodwose arch was heavily inspirced by crux

[23:40:13] + woodwose which was inspired by freebsd and ofc lsf

[23:40:16] + woodwose it'S wrong

[23:41:06] + woodwose arch moved away from how crux handles things, e.g. rc.conf, simpler init system

[23:41:29] + woodwose arch really does its own thing now... the only thing it still has in common with crux is the simple packaging

[23:41:44] + woodwose pkgbuilds were adopted from crux, packaging format, and later adopted by distros like alpine

[23:41:53] + woodwose but arch never was a source based distro

[23:42:07] + woodwose arch tooling makes it quite difficult to apply system wide arch optimizations

[23:42:19] + woodwose End3r: people still use crux though

[23:42:27] + woodwose it'S probably the closest thing to freebsd in the linux world

[23:42:51] + woodwose judd vinet or whatever his name was, iirc, was a crux user

[23:43:39] + woodwose End3r: I never tried nix or nixos

[23:43:48] + woodwose I am not sure I will ever try it

[23:44:25] + woodwose End3r: technically you could run gentoo like debian

[23:44:55] + woodwose gentoo's stable branch behaves a bit like debian, and they now have complete (afaik) binary packages and repos for e.g. x86_64

[23:45:06] + woodwose so, them shipping binaries, allows you to not compile shit

[23:45:32] + woodwose the issue is, that it's not possible (am I wrong here?) to combine binary repos with sources

[23:45:48] + woodwose issue is, that the binaries have fixed USE flags, which kind of defeates the purpose of gentoo or the capabilities of portage

[23:46:10] + woodwose that would quickly turn into quite the clusterfuck

[23:46:25] + woodwose but at least they offer isolated binaries for stuff like the rust compiler

[23:46:30] + woodwose which otherwise would take forever...

[23:46:40] + woodwose to compile

[23:46:45] + woodwose ok, enough lines

[23:46:47] + woodwose $rank

[23:46:57] + woodwose blah

[23:46:59] + woodwose $rank

[23:47:07] + woodwose (:

[23:47:19] + woodwose slowly creeping up the rankings

[23:55:02] + woodwose End3r: do you add or enable non free/libre repos, e.g. for proprietary codecs or drivers?

[23:55:26] + woodwose it's been a while since I have been running debian

[23:55:42] + woodwose over here, in the late 2000s there was a distro specializing in stabilizing debian sid, called sidux

[23:55:54] + woodwose they were among other things shipping their own kernels

[23:56:13] + woodwose there were forks of that, later on, but that's when I was already migrating over to arch

[23:56:17] + woodwose so no clue if they are still alive

[23:56:25] + woodwose but I have run debian stable, testing and unstable/sid

[23:56:38] + woodwose I remember that debian testing was less stable than debian unstable

[23:56:49] + woodwose at least with the sidux repo/packages

[23:57:04] + woodwose and behaved more like arch linux

[23:57:40] + woodwose I am not sure I would be able to cope with how debian deals with matters nowadays

[23:57:59] + woodwose I especially don't like their backporting strategy

[23:58:36] + woodwose that often seems to happen without communication with upstream development

[23:58:59] + woodwose nice name

[23:59:05] + woodwose project is new to me

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