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[15:51:19] Helvegen/rizon ZEE GERMANS ARE COMINK!

[15:52:08] Helvegen/rizon I grew up with Germans and Italians, but the American versions of these

[15:52:13] Helvegen/rizon which are meaner

[15:55:41] Helvegen/rizon trust me, "hillbilly ialian" is a thing

[15:55:46] Helvegen/rizon italian*

[15:55:53] Helvegen/rizon and it is scary

[15:56:17] Helvegen/rizon yeah!

[15:56:18] Helvegen/rizon \o/

[15:56:38] Helvegen/rizon sherbert :d

[15:57:09] Helvegen/rizon trying to place the show

[15:57:16] Helvegen/rizon True Blood?

[15:57:27] Helvegen/rizon oh I watched that like a secade ago

[15:57:30] Helvegen/rizon decade*

[15:57:42] Helvegen/rizon I got into it at first but then it got kind of dumb

[15:58:24] Helvegen/rizon too much sexuality

[15:58:39] Helvegen/rizon but I really love the style that they call "southern gothic"

[15:58:57] Helvegen/rizon like if you've ever read the "Preacher" comics, you know why I would like True Blood

[15:59:26] Helvegen/rizon they're gritty and cool, with that Southern American style

[15:59:42] Helvegen/rizon like vampires wearing cowboy boots and smoking marlboros

[15:59:47] Helvegen/rizon etc.

[16:00:50] Helvegen/rizon from Wikipedia:

[16:00:53] Helvegen/rizon Southern Gothic is an artistic subgenre of fiction, country music, film and television that are heavily influenced by Gothic elements and the American South. Common themes of Southern Gothic include storytelling of deeply flawed, disturbing or eccentric characters who may be involved in hoodoo,[1] decayed or derelict settings,[2] grotesque situations, and other sinister events relating

[16:00:53] Helvegen/rizon to or stemming from poverty, alienation, crime, or violence.

[16:02:52] Helvegen/rizon yes, many

[16:03:02] Helvegen/rizon notable "A Streetcar Named Desire"

[16:03:06] Helvegen/rizon notably*

[16:03:36] Helvegen/rizon Preacher, True Blood, various folk albums dealing with suicide and murder, etc.

[16:04:04] Helvegen/rizon np :)

[16:04:06] Helvegen/rizon here's my favorite Southern Gothic album, one sec:

[16:04:28] Helvegen/rizon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALLuI1OHs-w

[16:04:42] Helvegen/rizon alkso called "Dark Country"

[16:04:48] Helvegen/rizon -k

[16:05:13] Helvegen/rizon "The thematic material was largely a reflection of the culture existing in the South following the collapse of the Confederacy as a consequence of the Civil War, which left a vacuum in its cultural and religious values. The resulting poverty and lingering bitterness over the loss of the Civil War in the region during Reconstruction exacerbated the racism, excessive violence, and religious

[16:05:13] Helvegen/rizon extremism endemic to the region."

[16:07:22] Helvegen/rizon Preacher is fucking amazing (the comic only)

[16:07:29] Helvegen/rizon and is in my Top 10 series ever

[16:08:00] Helvegen/rizon amen

[16:08:08] Helvegen/rizon Cassidy is my man :)

[16:09:01] Helvegen/rizon also, the TV show loses all the true southern gothic style becase Seth Rogen doesn't understand the concept

[16:09:08] Helvegen/rizon fuckin wanker

[16:09:48] Helvegen/rizon just don't watch the show

[16:10:13] Helvegen/rizon yes, exactly, and he doesn't understand that remote, lonely kind of fear and ugliness

[16:10:24] Helvegen/rizon he grew up loved

[16:10:26] Helvegen/rizon and happy

[16:11:00] Helvegen/rizon Seth Rogen yeah he's a funny guy

[16:11:17] Helvegen/rizon yes

[16:11:45] Helvegen/rizon <3 southern gothic, it's close to my heart

[16:11:56] Helvegen/rizon right, exactly

[16:13:12] Helvegen/rizon it definitely has that historical niche placement, belongs there

[16:13:27] Helvegen/rizon it can be understood as "What happened to the south after the civil war"

[16:14:59] Helvegen/rizon yep, and stories stemming from this to include allegorical "monsters"

[16:15:24] Helvegen/rizon hah

[16:15:52] Helvegen/rizon I vaguely remember that too :)

[16:16:03] Helvegen/rizon though Twilight Zone was a bit before my time

[16:16:16] Helvegen/rizon caught some of it on my grandparents collection of VHS

[16:16:25] Helvegen/rizon yep yep

[16:16:34] Helvegen/rizon agreed

[16:17:42] Helvegen/rizon siggs:

[16:17:46] Helvegen/rizon The Southern Gothic style employs macabre, ironic events to examine the values of the American South.[5] Thus unlike its parent genre, it uses the Gothic tools not solely for the sake of suspense, but to explore social issues and reveal the cultural character of the American South – Gothic elements often taking place in a magic realist context rather than a strictly fantastical one.

[16:18:08] Helvegen/rizon "magical realism"

[16:18:22] Helvegen/rizon vampires exist and they go to church with you on Sunday

[16:19:05] Helvegen/rizon !bang

[16:19:20] Helvegen/rizon *whoot*

[16:20:00] Helvegen/rizon <3

[16:20:12] Helvegen/rizon I basically Am that character

[16:20:18] Helvegen/rizon only I'm, not from Ireland

[16:20:45] Helvegen/rizon ;)

[16:21:19] Helvegen/rizon "I know, let's make Tulip black so the show is more modern and inclusive." - Seth Rogen

[16:22:43] Helvegen/rizon shit now I'm in this album I linked and there's no getting out until it's done

[16:22:53] Helvegen/rizon so be it

[16:23:38] Helvegen/rizon "Warped rural communities replaced the sinister plantations of an earlier age; and in the works of leading figures such as William Faulkner, Carson McCullers and Flannery O'Connor, the representation of the South blossomed into an absurdist critique of modernity as a whole."

[16:24:09] Helvegen/rizon yeah :\

[16:24:30] Helvegen/rizon why is it supposed to be some kind of mortal sin

[16:24:39] Helvegen/rizon it's not like you're plagiarizing or anything

[16:24:50] Helvegen/rizon exactly right

[16:25:29] Helvegen/rizon they did the same thing with Batwoman

[16:25:45] Helvegen/rizon a big fuckyou to batwoman fans by making her black

[16:25:49] Helvegen/rizon turned out to be ridiculous

[16:26:03] Helvegen/rizon Hard virtue signaling

[16:27:06] Helvegen/rizon I love black characters when they were originally black, but these jerks just keep trying to overwrite it

[16:27:10] Helvegen/rizon for example:

[16:27:25] Helvegen/rizon if they made a show where the superhero Spawn was origtinally white, I would be pissed.

[16:27:34] Helvegen/rizon because he's just Not

[16:27:39] Helvegen/rizon -t

[16:28:09] Helvegen/rizon removing context and tone is right

[16:28:39] Helvegen/rizon they even tried to make James Bond black

[16:28:44] Helvegen/rizon and the fanbase put its foot down

[16:28:51] Helvegen/rizon that's the last straw

[16:29:03] Helvegen/rizon !bang

[16:29:59] Helvegen/rizon well said

[16:30:25] Helvegen/rizon yeah, I was never big on Bond either

[16:30:35] Helvegen/rizon but I am a huge fan of his classic Britishness

[16:30:44] Helvegen/rizon exactly!

[16:32:01] Helvegen/rizon and I really enjoy Craig's Bond btw

[16:32:16] Helvegen/rizon It's the only version I follwed from beginning to end

[16:32:26] Helvegen/rizon if indeed that was the end

[16:33:22] Helvegen/rizon I didn't even see the newest one yet, I've been on MArvel/Star Trek/Star Wars/LD+R/etc.

[16:33:34] Helvegen/rizon I am holding it as a hidden gem for later

[16:34:04] Helvegen/rizon I do, in great amounts

[16:34:08] Helvegen/rizon I am that person they make things for

[16:34:17] Helvegen/rizon i know right

[16:34:41] Helvegen/rizon the reason they make these shows is because, well, I exist

[16:34:52] Helvegen/rizon I don't buy funkopops, that's stupid lol

[16:35:10] Helvegen/rizon Kowal: I thoroughly believe that is true and I know it will be proven true when I watch it

[16:35:22] Helvegen/rizon omg, don't get me started on DR. Jones

[16:35:26] Helvegen/rizon I grew up with him

[16:35:36] Helvegen/rizon <3

[16:35:46] Helvegen/rizon yes, afaik

[16:35:51] Helvegen/rizon hah

[16:35:56] Helvegen/rizon probably :D

[16:36:29] Helvegen/rizon I'll be along for the ride, too

[16:36:31] Helvegen/rizon they can have my money

[16:36:42] Helvegen/rizon just like I'm on board with Picard, no matter how awful it is

[16:36:53] Helvegen/rizon most of the original TNG crew is back for Season 3, including Data

[16:37:08] Helvegen/rizon lol

[16:37:43] Helvegen/rizon was cringey and god awful?

[16:38:13] Helvegen/rizon Picard as a character kind of saved my life

[16:38:21] Helvegen/rizon so he gets special treatment from me

[16:38:24] Helvegen/rizon forever loyal

[16:38:37] Helvegen/rizon long story

[16:39:39] Helvegen/rizon was it something I said?

[16:39:54] Helvegen/rizon lol

[16:40:00] Helvegen/rizon he wouldn't b e the first

[16:40:28] Helvegen/rizon they hate me cause they ain't me :\

[16:40:51] Helvegen/rizon understandable

[16:40:57] Helvegen/rizon if I weren't me, I'd hate me too

[16:43:50] Helvegen/rizon hate is something you can always rely on from the community at large

[16:44:20] Helvegen/rizon that dirty little inner bitch that wants to look at the world through a seething little lens that satisfies the ego

[16:44:31] Helvegen/rizon I'm ripping Joe Rogan off right now but oh well

[16:45:16] Helvegen/rizon this is why I should just live on a university campus for the rest of my life

[16:48:28] Helvegen/rizon I could be, but I don't like that kind of strict obligation

[16:48:49] Helvegen/rizon making lesson plans and keeping to a schedule is not something I particularly enjoy

[16:49:02] Helvegen/rizon sometimes I just like to sit and stare into the distance all day

[16:49:09] Helvegen/rizon in a manner of speaking

[16:49:49] Helvegen/rizon better people than I become professors

[16:50:14] Helvegen/rizon but being a lifelong student is something that appeals to me greatly

[16:59:32] Helvegen/rizon another great southern gothic writer: Anne Rice, actually

[17:49:51] Helvegen/rizon o/

[18:06:44] Helvegen/rizon I turn my back for 2 minutes and you're raping each other

[18:06:53] Helvegen/rizon this is why government is important

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