IRC Driven

[18:23:37] + linuxuser/rizon of course there is

[18:23:44] + linuxuser/rizon Have you seen America lately?

[18:25:27] + linuxuser/rizon I think some parts of it are nice to live in.

[18:28:55] + linuxuser/rizon Small town America is Best America from what I hear

[18:48:51] + linuxuser/rizon I've been so lazy

[18:49:13] + linuxuser/rizon parts arrived yesterday, still haven't put them in yet

[18:49:41] + linuxuser/rizon lazy M-F, sometimes weekends too

[18:49:53] + linuxuser/rizon lel

[18:50:12] + linuxuser/rizon bought a 2nd hand Dell Latitude 5480 on Saturday

[18:50:43] + linuxuser/rizon only has 8 GB of RAM and a 256 GB SSD

[18:50:59] + linuxuser/rizon so I ordered 32 GB of RAM and a 2TB SSD off amazon with next-day delivery

[18:51:12] + linuxuser/rizon I am planning to put Windows on it, among others

[18:51:39] + linuxuser/rizon anyone know where to get a working kext for the trackpad to get that going under macOS on it?

[18:52:24] + linuxuser/rizon I use linux, windows, macOS, chromeOS, Android, etc.

[18:52:34] + linuxuser/rizon I actually already have a copy of Win98

[18:52:54] + linuxuser/rizon sorcerer: Enjoy the licensing fees

[18:55:41] + linuxuser/rizon as far as Windows goes, I don't have install media for any versions prior to 3.1 or for Windows ME

[18:55:45] + linuxuser/rizon https://i.imgur.com/gu3AmU8.png

[18:57:17] + linuxuser/rizon it's not my preferred OS

[18:57:39] + linuxuser/rizon but it's unavoidable in the corporate world

[18:58:11] + linuxuser/rizon there are very few things I think Microsoft does well

[18:58:22] + linuxuser/rizon the original XBox was one thing Microsoft did well

[18:58:47] + linuxuser/rizon the GUI on Windows DNS server is also pretty good (but the server itself is shit compared to BIND)

[18:59:26] + linuxuser/rizon the reason is simple

[18:59:45] + linuxuser/rizon it's so Microsoft can churn out a bunch of MCSE's that still only know how to point-and-click

[19:00:11] + linuxuser/rizon because you have to on a Windows domain controller

[19:00:15] + linuxuser/rizon is the reason

[19:00:32] + linuxuser/rizon same reason you'd ever run Windows as an NTP server

[19:00:39] + linuxuser/rizon you have to on a domain controller

[19:01:03] + linuxuser/rizon now you CAN use Samba on a *nix box as a domain controller for a Windows domain

[19:01:16] + linuxuser/rizon but it isn't easy to set that up

[19:01:52] + linuxuser/rizon and you'll never convince the corporate world to get rid of Windows for the end-users

[19:02:28] + linuxuser/rizon who insist on trying to use Excel as a database and writing ridiculous macros in the Finance department

[19:04:34] + linuxuser/rizon hell, you'll have a hard time convincing corporate types that saving the money on replacing Windows MSSQL servers with *nix SQL servers is worth the "risk" of not having Microsoft "support"

[19:05:20] + linuxuser/rizon >implying Microsoft "support" agreements are worth the paper they're printed on

[19:05:56] + linuxuser/rizon It's the whole "no one ever got fired for buying IBM" mindset, except it's Microsoft now

[19:06:12] + linuxuser/rizon and maybe they didn't get fired for choosing Microsoft, but they probably SHOULD have been

[19:06:56] + linuxuser/rizon yeah, they still have the per-core licensing model

[19:07:14] + linuxuser/rizon although I vaguely recall there's some other licensing model available now too

[19:07:36] + linuxuser/rizon lol

[19:08:43] + linuxuser/rizon of course not

[19:09:09] + linuxuser/rizon oh it's like that everywhere in the corporate world, not just Germany

[19:09:45] + linuxuser/rizon Because the people making the decision are the ones who went and got MBA's, not people who have any idea of what the tech actually can or can't do

[19:10:28] + linuxuser/rizon there was zero competition at all for linux knowledge at the last place I was at

[19:11:53] + linuxuser/rizon I always found it somewhat amusing, the skepticism with which linux was viewed by the corporate types

[19:12:50] + linuxuser/rizon I'd tell them things like, "Well you know Amazon, Google, Netflix, Ebay, Wikipedia... They all run their stuff on linux, so what do you mean you're 'not sure it'll work'?" and they'd just look at me as if they thought I was lying. lol

[19:13:30] + linuxuser/rizon well Android is based on linux

[19:14:13] + linuxuser/rizon IIS and .NET are fucking horrible

[19:14:51] + linuxuser/rizon there must be, there's CLI-only Windows Server now

[19:15:04] + linuxuser/rizon so it must be at least theoretically possible to do it all via PowerShell

[19:15:10] + linuxuser/rizon but god damn do I hate PowerShell

[19:15:27] + linuxuser/rizon lets-make-all-the-commands-fifty-words-long

[19:16:00] + linuxuser/rizon better off just running bash

[19:16:16] + linuxuser/rizon Azure does actually support bash now, at least partly

[19:16:24] + linuxuser/rizon for interacting with it

[19:16:38] + linuxuser/rizon not sure about 365, probably still powershell only

[19:17:17] + linuxuser/rizon why.png

[19:17:39] + linuxuser/rizon lol

[19:18:11] + linuxuser/rizon I saw manufacturing facilities where all the SCADA equipment was being controlled by Pentium 3 and Pentium 4 boxes running Windows 2000 Server

[19:18:23] + linuxuser/rizon yeah

[19:18:28] + linuxuser/rizon well

[19:18:37] + linuxuser/rizon they were starting to shit themselves

[19:19:08] + linuxuser/rizon because boxes were starting to fail and they were being told "Yeah, we fixed it this time, but next time you might not be able to get parts for this any more, it's too old."

[19:19:52] + linuxuser/rizon I convinced them to let me virtualize it and move it onto brand new hardware

[19:20:15] + linuxuser/rizon it was either that or spend millions refitting the place with new equipment and new systems to run it

[19:20:28] + linuxuser/rizon so they let me do it for a total cost of around $30k

[19:21:16] + linuxuser/rizon that place was so old

[19:21:55] + linuxuser/rizon the networking scheme they used when they set up the SCADA network put it on something like 154.3.36.0/24

[19:22:22] + linuxuser/rizon and I questioned what sort of an idiot would use that address space for an internal network

[19:22:37] + linuxuser/rizon then found out it was implemented prior to the existence of RFC 1918

[19:23:19] + linuxuser/rizon https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc1918.html

[19:23:45] + linuxuser/rizon so RFC 1918 defines what IP address space should be used for private networks in IPv4

[19:24:11] + linuxuser/rizon y'know, so you're not trying to use addresses that would clash with the rest of the internet on your private network...

[19:25:19] + linuxuser/rizon I had to kinda give them a pass on that one, because they set the network up before RFC 1918 existed

[19:25:50] + linuxuser/rizon by the time I got to working on it, it had been upgraded to Windows 2000 Server and XP

[19:25:58] + linuxuser/rizon but it was originally set up running Windows 3.11

[19:26:22] + linuxuser/rizon they still had the Windows 3.11 box in a cupboard somewhere that was used for uploading the code to the PLC

[19:26:34] + linuxuser/rizon only problem was, no one had a copy of the original code any more

[19:26:50] + linuxuser/rizon apparently the only person who ever had a copy of it was some guy who died years ago

[19:27:11] + linuxuser/rizon this PLC is still in use there

[19:27:15] + linuxuser/rizon lol

[19:27:38] + linuxuser/rizon it's a company that a large Japanese corporate entity paid almost $1 billion AU to acquire a few years ago

[19:27:57] + linuxuser/rizon indeed

[19:28:28] + linuxuser/rizon some of the sites still had milling equipment dating back to the late 1800's, early 1900's

[19:28:41] + linuxuser/rizon (not in current use, but it was too large and heavy to remove)

[19:29:41] + linuxuser/rizon this was the kind of equipment that the entire building was built around

[19:33:56] + linuxuser/rizon not really feasible without actually investing money back into the business, which was much less preferable to the management than giving it to themselves in large, undeserved "bonuses".

[19:37:07] + linuxuser/rizon !bang

[19:37:12] + linuxuser/rizon !reload

[19:37:13] + linuxuser/rizon !bang

[19:37:19] + linuxuser/rizon too late

[19:38:16] + linuxuser/rizon as for networking

[19:38:26] + linuxuser/rizon I know a guy who subnetted an IPv6 address once

[19:38:36] + linuxuser/rizon I lol'd so hard when he told me that

[19:40:34] + linuxuser/rizon IPv4 has a total address space of 4,300,000,000

[19:40:42] + linuxuser/rizon IPv6 has 340,282,366,920,938,463,463,374,607,431,768,211,456

[19:41:11] + linuxuser/rizon so subnetting IPv6 is entirely unnecessary

[19:41:31] + linuxuser/rizon which is why I laughed so hard when he told me he did it

[19:44:27] + linuxuser/rizon lol

[19:44:50] + linuxuser/rizon some people clearly completely missed the point of IPv6

[19:46:05] + linuxuser/rizon it could be worse

[19:46:34] + linuxuser/rizon It's kinda understandable to have NAT on your (customer) side anyway

[19:46:54] + linuxuser/rizon well, not so much with IPv6, but with IPv4 it is

[19:47:03] + linuxuser/rizon lol yeah

[19:47:24] + linuxuser/rizon what I really dislike is CG-NAT

[19:47:29] + linuxuser/rizon on the provider side

[19:48:37] + linuxuser/rizon I actually pay $10 a month extra for a static IP

[19:49:12] + linuxuser/rizon and had to call my ISP and specifically request they give me 1:1 NAT for all ports, and open every port

[19:49:28] + linuxuser/rizon just in case I feel like running my own shit

[19:49:32] + linuxuser/rizon which as it turns out, I do

[19:50:08] + linuxuser/rizon well that's how it is for me now

[19:50:11] + linuxuser/rizon but yeah, I had to request it

[19:50:17] + linuxuser/rizon funnily enough, the only thing they questioned was opening up port 25

[19:50:43] + linuxuser/rizon I do run a mail exchanger, but it's sure as hell not misconfigured as an open relay

[19:51:40] + linuxuser/rizon I also have a webmail interface hosted from my home connection

[19:51:53] + linuxuser/rizon so I can log into that email I host myself from literally anywhere

[19:52:12] + linuxuser/rizon without an email client such as Thunderbird or Outlook

[19:52:23] + linuxuser/rizon hang on a sec, I'll make you a mailbox, you can try it out

[19:59:57] + linuxuser/rizon hi y-salami

[20:01:08] + linuxuser/rizon well

[20:01:19] + linuxuser/rizon I already set you up a mailbox and pm'd you the details for it

[20:02:40] + linuxuser/rizon my Terms of Service are as follows: Don't send illegal shit from it.

[20:02:46] + linuxuser/rizon lel

[20:05:59] + linuxuser/rizon not particularly

[20:06:40] + linuxuser/rizon probably not

[20:07:00] + linuxuser/rizon usually it's on your side

[20:07:16] + linuxuser/rizon but there are things you can do to help make it less likely

[20:07:39] + linuxuser/rizon eg. I have current SPF records, I implemented DKIM signing, etc.

[20:08:39] + linuxuser/rizon I think gmail gives a nasty warning now on emails you receive from a mail server without DKIM

[20:09:03] + linuxuser/rizon email configuration isn't too bad

[20:09:08] + linuxuser/rizon unless you're using Exchange

[20:09:09] + linuxuser/rizon lel

[20:10:14] + linuxuser/rizon I'm running postfix, dovecot, postfixadmin, roundcube

[20:11:03] + linuxuser/rizon passwords are stored in an SQL database as Type 6 hashes, the db isn't accessible from outside my LAN

[20:13:11] + linuxuser/rizon so I can reset a password by overwriting it with a new one, but I can't recover a forgotten password

[20:14:14] + linuxuser/rizon dovecot is set up to accept IMAP connections too, so it is possible to use a dedicated email client eg. Thunderbird or Outlook, instead of the roundcube webmail interface

[20:14:23] + linuxuser/rizon well

[20:14:30] + linuxuser/rizon actually it won't accept plain IMAP

[20:14:38] + linuxuser/rizon IMAPS, has to be secure

[20:19:29] + linuxuser/rizon IIRC, my mail exchanger also won't accept incoming mail unless it's from a secure connection

[20:21:07] + linuxuser/rizon uwot

[20:22:20] + linuxuser/rizon ok, ok

[20:22:24] + linuxuser/rizon you can email me

[20:22:29] + linuxuser/rizon hitler@sydneylabs.net

[20:24:25] + linuxuser/rizon send GNUdes

[20:25:35] + linuxuser/rizon Microsoft murdered Tay :(

[20:29:12] + linuxuser/rizon !bang

[20:30:19] + linuxuser/rizon it's OK, he said the n-word

[20:32:31] + linuxuser/rizon enough laziness, I must go install these now https://i.imgur.com/YoAmW1S.png

[21:21:26] + linuxuser/rizon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O22f3QXN_LQ

[21:23:02] + linuxuser/rizon Plucka Duck

[21:23:11] + linuxuser/rizon segment from an old Australian TV show

[21:23:37] + linuxuser/rizon they tried to bring the show back in 2010 but then got cancelled again immediately for "racism" :(

[21:35:10] + linuxuser/rizon if people complain about racism when there isn't any, just call them niggers

[21:36:31] + linuxuser/rizon maybe

[21:36:43] + linuxuser/rizon but it can't be racist, because I'm white and it was still uncalled for

[21:36:48] + linuxuser/rizon checkmate, atheists

[21:37:33] + linuxuser/rizon lol

[21:38:13] + linuxuser/rizon GOOD NEWS, EVERYONE!

[21:38:33] + linuxuser/rizon upgrade went smoothly, laptop now has 32 GB RAM and 2 TB SSD

[21:39:18] + linuxuser/rizon my fileserver has 40 TB of HDD space

[21:39:46] + linuxuser/rizon were you using Windows?

[21:39:59] + linuxuser/rizon so the files weren't really written to the disk yet

[21:40:02] + linuxuser/rizon still in cache

[21:40:12] + linuxuser/rizon and you unplugged the drive before the cache was flushed to disk

[21:40:32] + linuxuser/rizon you didn't click the little taskbar tray thing and tell it to "Remove safely" or whatever, did you? :P

[21:40:50] + linuxuser/rizon 'cause that's what that thing does, it flushes the cache to disk and unmounts the volume

[21:41:01] + linuxuser/rizon yeah, but what I'm telling you is

[21:41:08] + linuxuser/rizon even if you'd plugged it in 2 minutes later

[21:41:17] + linuxuser/rizon the files never made it onto the USB in the first place

[21:41:57] + linuxuser/rizon anyways

[21:42:00] + linuxuser/rizon deadly, relax mate

[21:42:18] + linuxuser/rizon I'm not really racist, my family used to own several black people :)

[21:43:09] + linuxuser/rizon same thing can happen with HDD's on windows

[21:43:25] + linuxuser/rizon you have to turn off the caching to entirely prevent it

[21:43:41] + linuxuser/rizon or make sure you always "Safely remove" it

[21:44:25] + linuxuser/rizon why not just set up a fileserver and have it all available on your network?

[21:45:02] + linuxuser/rizon sort of, except hosting it yourself

[21:45:46] + linuxuser/rizon d'oh

[21:55:21] + linuxuser/rizon .wz penrith, nsw

[22:14:20] + linuxuser/rizon !bang

[22:14:21] + linuxuser/rizon !bang

[22:14:23] + linuxuser/rizon !bang

[22:14:25] + linuxuser/rizon !bang

[22:14:26] + linuxuser/rizon !bang

[22:14:30] + linuxuser/rizon !reload

[22:14:31] + linuxuser/rizon !bang

[22:14:36] + linuxuser/rizon ...

[22:14:40] + linuxuser/rizon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxnEsi2XagU

[22:14:47] + linuxuser/rizon !rearm linuxuser

[22:15:53] + linuxuser/rizon .rearm linuxuser

[22:16:06] + linuxuser/rizon meh

[22:16:41] + linuxuser/rizon you made me hungry talking about mashed potatoes

[22:16:47] + linuxuser/rizon so now I'm eating some noodles

[22:17:14] + linuxuser/rizon !bang

[22:17:17] + linuxuser/rizon !bang

[22:17:20] + linuxuser/rizon !bang

[22:17:22] + linuxuser/rizon !bang

[22:17:25] + linuxuser/rizon !bang

[22:21:41] + linuxuser/rizon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36WlqqM66-4

[22:38:50] + linuxuser/rizon if he dies again, I want to install linux on him

[22:38:56] + linuxuser/rizon https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/2101819.Installing_Linux_on_a_Dead_Badger

[22:40:23] + linuxuser/rizon https://everything2.com/title/How+to+install+Linux+on+a+dead+badger

[22:43:07] + linuxuser/rizon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V83JR2IoI8k

[22:45:02] + linuxuser/rizon cheesy name

[22:45:40] + linuxuser/rizon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colby_cheese

#computertech Bot Logged User list

Channel Log Archive for #computertech

IRC Log Archive