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[01:22:35] Icedream/rizon sushi-chan, \o

[01:22:46] Icedream/rizon and also hi everyone else, i'm still alive lol

[01:23:31] Icedream/rizon indeeeeed! and i happen to have remembered irc was a thing like 15 minutes ago or so? lol

[01:23:50] Icedream/rizon i mean i got a new job

[01:24:09] Icedream/rizon somewhen in the year i got older as well

[01:25:13] Icedream/rizon sushi-chan, yeah, i stopped being a web dev in june and switched to a new company as a full on software engineer

[01:25:20] Icedream/rizon do tell!

[01:25:35] Icedream/rizon i have my ears pointed, both of htem

[01:25:38] Icedream/rizon *them

[01:25:55] Icedream/rizon (yes I can actually control my ears to a degree where i can wiggle them)

[01:26:07] Icedream/rizon sushi-chan, I do kinda remember

[01:26:15] Icedream/rizon woooooooooot

[01:26:20] Icedream/rizon that's amazing stuff!

[01:26:42] Icedream/rizon that's teeth put in, congrats!

[01:27:09] Icedream/rizon was it a specific uni you were going after or just uni in general?

[01:27:47] Icedream/rizon of course, japan is a thing with ya sushi-chan ^^

[01:27:49] Icedream/rizon i still remember that one

[01:28:04] Icedream/rizon that's amazing though, good stuff

[01:29:02] Icedream/rizon i'm sorry but UEFI is easier to set up for booting, unless it's secure boot

[01:29:10] Icedream/rizon secure boot and firmware bugs are stuff for my nightmares, that shit sucks

[01:29:16] Icedream/rizon *the combination of

[01:29:45] Icedream/rizon like i had a laptop set up for my mom to boot with secure boot and added custom keys, that fucking firmware straight up ignored the custom keys

[01:30:00] Icedream/rizon and yes it is a firmware bug, not just a missing option

[01:30:23] Icedream/rizon CrystalMath, DOS MBR can go sod off for removable devices imo

[01:30:58] Icedream/rizon also being able to control boot order properly with efi utils on linux is kinda cool

[01:31:08] Icedream/rizon sushi-chan, there's like 3 conversations in this channel alone I think lol

[01:31:20] Icedream/rizon typical IRC

[01:32:00] Icedream/rizon CrystalMath, not an XMP issue is it?

[01:32:15] Icedream/rizon linuxuser, ext4 with disabled journaling is a thing, too, afaik

[01:32:41] Icedream/rizon oh, that sucks

[01:33:07] Icedream/rizon linuxuser, I'm just saying you can do it, it's just almost never done that way lol

[01:33:47] Icedream/rizon CrystalMath, eh that would slow down all of the RAM slots wouldn't it

[01:34:00] Icedream/rizon well, technical details. the setup does work is what matters

[01:34:26] Icedream/rizon i assume it's some unique and old firmware for it to have such obvious issues

[01:34:31] Icedream/rizon sushi-chan, :o do tell!

[01:34:51] Icedream/rizon lol, how did that happen sushi-chan

[01:35:52] Icedream/rizon CrystalMath, this is one of the hacks ever

[01:36:35] Icedream/rizon sushi-chan, that's dedication

[01:37:03] Icedream/rizon i still think some spiders are too ugly for me to even consider touching them lol. good for you though!

[01:37:12] Icedream/rizon 4 WEEKS

[01:37:19] Icedream/rizon holy shit that's quick

[01:38:16] Icedream/rizon CrystalMath, I have a similar issue with a Z170 board that as soon as I want to make full use of my RAM it just kinda spirals into unstable hell. I've already toyed with replacing the motherboard but eh. Not in the mood to replace the CPU as well atm.

[01:38:39] Icedream/rizon full use as in frequency and profiling

[01:38:41] Icedream/rizon not size

[01:38:49] Icedream/rizon I have 48 GB currently installed on my main machine lol

[01:39:09] Icedream/rizon the only reason I don't have 64 GB is because the last slot is super inconvenient to put anything in so I just didn't lol

[01:39:36] Icedream/rizon sushi-chan, nothing wrong with that, that's actually pretty damn awesome

[01:40:06] Icedream/rizon I couldn't do that lol, I just want spiders to be at distance so I don't have to look at their disproportionate ratio between head and legs all day

[01:40:16] Icedream/rizon hence ugly not scary

[01:40:50] Icedream/rizon takes some convincing yourself

[01:41:33] Icedream/rizon see, the sad thing is that now means sushi-chan, you're on the exact opposite extreme end of how you are treating spiders in comparison to me

[01:41:45] Icedream/rizon if I have to remove a spider, I'll sometimes throw boxes at it lol

[01:42:30] Icedream/rizon aloo_shu, doesn't that kinda tickle?

[01:43:09] Icedream/rizon CrystalMath, heh going for the retro look I see

[01:43:18] Icedream/rizon my taste for terminal-looking keyboards could go well with that

[01:43:58] Icedream/rizon CrystalMath, you playing DOS games on it and everything?

[01:44:18] Icedream/rizon is it

[01:44:26] Icedream/rizon oh right, depends on the hardware eh

[01:44:51] Icedream/rizon I was just thinking sound and went "oh right, dosbox has decent emulation for that, where proper hardware and drivers for that is a bit of a pain in the ass"

[01:45:01] Icedream/rizon but yeah, speed is a factor as well

[01:45:14] Icedream/rizon I mean toni does sound like a guy name

[01:45:20] Icedream/rizon but it's the Internet so

[01:45:22] Icedream/rizon *shrug*

[01:45:41] Icedream/rizon I've seen bochs once and never tried it myself

[01:45:48] Icedream/rizon I just stuck with virtualbox or libvirt for running stuff lol

[01:46:05] Icedream/rizon (or vmware and even ugh, hyper-v on windows)

[01:46:47] Icedream/rizon aloo_shu, I feel like I'd particularly dislike that feeling though. Then again some spiders have hairy legs, maybe that is less noticeable

[01:47:31] Icedream/rizon toni, I'm German and I can't confirm that somehow lol

[01:47:34] Icedream/rizon Alex I can confirm

[01:47:52] Icedream/rizon CrystalMath, lol

[01:48:22] Icedream/rizon aloo_shu, well only one way to find out eh :D

[01:48:34] Icedream/rizon Maybe one day I'll also touch spiders (by accident) but I don't think I would enjoy it

[01:48:51] Icedream/rizon For very, to me at least, obvious reasons of disliking such pin-pointy touches

[01:49:06] Icedream/rizon sushi-chan, yeah I was thinking that anyways :P

[01:49:45] Icedream/rizon I just don't like the association of the tickle moving around on my skin and it's a different living thing that does it

[01:50:02] Icedream/rizon Unless that's a human I trust that is a 100% instinctive yikes and pull back for me lol

[01:50:47] Icedream/rizon then again I've been traumatized by cockroaches in shitty hotels before, so maybe it was from that

[01:51:15] Icedream/rizon CrystalMath, the fact I'm on it right now should speak volumes!

[01:51:39] Icedream/rizon sushi-chan, spiders eat lots of things

[01:51:52] Icedream/rizon I know they're useful ones, I just absolutely don't like how they look and even move sometimes lol

[01:53:09] Icedream/rizon aloo_shu, considering I'm a bit of a technical guy, you shouldn't be surprised I'm so analytical about it :P the way you said it sounds a lot nicer though, I'll give it that

[01:53:52] Icedream/rizon sushi-chan, yeah they feed off things that help them and that's what they make the webs for

[01:53:59] Icedream/rizon they get rid of flies, too, after all

[01:54:16] Icedream/rizon yea something like that

[01:54:55] Icedream/rizon i have a whole bunch of spiders in front of my window every evening because the shutters there don't work properly and just don't move that much anymore

[01:55:06] Icedream/rizon so they just settled down there and kinda live there

[01:55:40] Icedream/rizon I've not gotten around to repairing it because it has to go through the landlord

[01:56:04] Icedream/rizon $$

[01:56:13] Icedream/rizon damn it what was the command thing again

[01:56:49] Icedream/rizon yeah that's not what i wanted sushi xD

[01:57:28] Icedream/rizon aloo_shu, I know of this thing you can put on your head to massage it that lightly an it's supposed to give you similarly tingly feelings or something like that

[01:57:45] Icedream/rizon like a very gentle thin wire grabby thing

[01:58:20] Icedream/rizon i mean fair play on the name then lol

[01:58:35] Icedream/rizon as someone who listens to asmr i can appreciate the tingle effect on that

[01:58:43] Icedream/rizon yes that would be it

[01:59:21] Icedream/rizon well i didn't expect that

[02:00:05] Icedream/rizon i mean there's things to do with sensitive ears, give it nice light taps, stroke it lightly, nibble it, there's ways to stimulate with ears

[02:00:20] Icedream/rizon but normally that's considered foreplay, not the main game lol

[02:00:38] Icedream/rizon i'll say I love the q-tip thing, loved it especially as a kid

[02:00:51] Icedream/rizon nowadays just very careful with it cuz i heard the horror stories of people doing it a bit too intensely

[02:02:40] Icedream/rizon aloo_shu, oh that's good

[02:03:39] Icedream/rizon shall I outweird you in that regard?

[02:03:49] Icedream/rizon I'll say ear licking ASMR is a thing

[02:04:06] Icedream/rizon eyup ComputerTech \o

[02:04:23] Icedream/rizon you joined at the perfect time lol

[02:04:52] Icedream/rizon it's also 4:04 AM here

[02:05:03] Icedream/rizon so totally against technicalities, at 4:04 a ComputerTech was found indeed in this channel

[02:05:21] Icedream/rizon oh no lol

[02:05:44] Icedream/rizon i mean what did ya expect

[02:06:05] Icedream/rizon scooted too close to the danger zone

[02:06:14] Icedream/rizon being drunk and hurting humself?

[02:06:17] Icedream/rizon *himself?

[02:06:41] Icedream/rizon it's still his parents, and you know how parents are

[02:06:45] Icedream/rizon protective to the last bit

[02:06:58] Icedream/rizon oh that also is a thing you shouldn't do

[02:07:00] Icedream/rizon just in general lol

[02:07:13] Icedream/rizon eh, you still make yourself guilty in the process

[02:07:16] Icedream/rizon not sure if win

[02:07:35] Icedream/rizon sushi-chan, ironic since coffee puts you into overdrive

[02:07:51] Icedream/rizon ComputerTech, yep i remembered irc is a thing

[02:08:05] Icedream/rizon bruh

[02:08:19] Icedream/rizon went all out on that lol

[02:09:22] Icedream/rizon aloo_shu, I can 100% agree on the amount of trash floating about and really having to be picky to find the good stuff

[02:09:43] Icedream/rizon Being bound to data sucks for that lol

[02:09:54] Icedream/rizon sushi-chan, he's drunk

[02:11:35] Icedream/rizon aloo_shu, it's either the specific trigger I go for, it's someone who I happen to already know as a content creator who decided to jump to ASMR, or it's like one of these corners of YouTube with non-English content where they try things unconventional to ASMR but it still has "ASMR" in it so I can find it lol

[02:14:15] Icedream/rizon sushi-chan, highly depends on the who, but I do enjoy both with and without at least whisper voice. Some ASMRtists I follow have very soft natural voices or know how to not do aggressive "S" sounds, those are perfect for listening to whispers.

[02:14:31] Icedream/rizon If I go for a trigger I will usually go for non-talking ASMR though.

[02:15:04] Icedream/rizon linuxuser, let me translate: you don't give a shit about ASMR lol

[02:16:04] Icedream/rizon sushi-chan, because you expect your own movement on your skin and it dampens the effect, tingles anyways.

[02:16:38] Icedream/rizon if someone else does it you are more aware of where they are touching because you exactly don't know where it'll exactly be

[02:16:50] Icedream/rizon or even when

[02:18:39] Icedream/rizon this can go both ways btw, either good or bad. I get kinda scared when my mom helps me out with cutting my hair at home because she's the impatient, wants to get things done quick kinda person.

[02:18:50] Icedream/rizon so she can be very rough and at risk of accidentally cutting into your ear.

[02:18:53] Icedream/rizon which she did once lol

[02:19:10] Icedream/rizon awh I'm happy to be back here talking to yall as well :D

[02:19:20] Icedream/rizon at such a good timing of sushi-chan and ComputerTech joining in anyways

[02:19:36] Icedream/rizon linuxuser, ahhh. well, ASMR artists => ASMRtists. Not sure what else to call it lol.

[02:19:54] Icedream/rizon ASMRtubers

[02:20:02] Icedream/rizon which… anything tube just sounds stupid somehow lol

[02:20:05] Icedream/rizon even youtube if i think more about it

[02:20:35] Icedream/rizon aloo_shu, binaural beats don't work for me

[02:20:47] Icedream/rizon I may be a music producer but I prefer more natural sounds than that

[02:21:20] Icedream/rizon I do however like rain sounds and the kinda noise that microwaves produce, amplified to a much lower volume

[02:21:39] Icedream/rizon legit helped me fall asleep many times

[02:21:52] Icedream/rizon thanks ComputerTech :D

[02:22:45] Icedream/rizon also binaural beats itches me in a bad way ever since I found out that "432 Hz" discussions are a thing

[02:22:52] Icedream/rizon don't start with that topic ever with me anywhere near you lol

[02:23:14] Icedream/rizon sushi-chan, yeah it's very superficial

[02:23:35] Icedream/rizon makes no sense unless you just happen to you have your mind go places which… yeah "for people on drugs" sells better to the algorithm in that regard…

[02:23:45] Icedream/rizon *just happen to have your mind

[02:25:21] Icedream/rizon SoundShaman, stop this is triggering my 432 Hz tuned senses argh

[02:26:27] Icedream/rizon all I'll say is I watched Adam Neely take that 432 Hz thing apart

[02:26:50] Icedream/rizon you can slow down a song for it to sound slightly warmer or nicer, but tuning everything to 432 Hz is not a magic tool to get you "in sync with nature"

[02:26:54] Icedream/rizon that's just plain bullshit claims

[02:27:32] Icedream/rizon that does not mean there isn't a resonant frequency that naturally occurs, but there's like 100 layers of creativity in regards to music that kind of defeat the point of it

[02:29:45] Icedream/rizon I'm trying to get my ZNC hooked up to technet again

[02:29:55] Icedream/rizon but I'm mostly active on Rizon as well

[02:29:58] Icedream/rizon at least for random chats

[02:30:04] Icedream/rizon Darthkilroy, ohai

[02:30:41] Icedream/rizon all neato feato

[02:30:58] Icedream/rizon had a few tiring weeks but it's going

[02:34:32] Icedream/rizon aloo_shu, yeah it's lovely what you can do with harmonics

[02:35:59] Icedream/rizon you got no gun mate

[02:36:02] Icedream/rizon there ya go

[02:36:23] Icedream/rizon sushi-chan, still keeping up with the multiple chats? lol

[02:41:24] Icedream/rizon sushi-chan, again, opposite end for me. I suck with reading notes on paper, but put me in front of a piano, my brain will come up with melodies and chords and I'll just play them on the keys somewhat properly.

[02:41:36] Icedream/rizon The thing is I learned about intervals and where the C note should be, and I just work my way from there.

[02:42:45] Icedream/rizon sushi-chan, basically there's a group of 2 black keys and there's a group of 3 black keys and that repeats on a piano, right?

[02:43:00] Icedream/rizon the group of black keys is C# and D#. The white key left of C# is C.

[02:43:48] Icedream/rizon I think in C/C#/D/D#… not in Do Re Mi etc.

[02:44:00] Icedream/rizon cya ComputerTech, get well

[02:44:40] Icedream/rizon sushi-chan, just linking this for the image in the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtqgqYRDTDg

[02:44:56] Icedream/rizon that red dot is the C key (or you can call it "the root note" or whatever pretty much)

[02:45:42] Icedream/rizon I can do a bit of music theory but I will always be too slow to read music sheets and play them properly at the same time lol

[02:45:49] Icedream/rizon same reason I also suck at Guitar Hero o_o

[02:48:14] Icedream/rizon linuxuser, the point is it's a 5 button game. Of course it's not going to be exactly like playing a guitar, if you want that there's other games that do it. But I know enough people who are known for playing the game and also can play either a guitar or a different band-related instrument such as drums.

[02:48:49] Icedream/rizon In fact people don't even play the game like on a real guitar anymore because that's the point of the skill. You gotta be incredibly fast and figure out that system instead.

[02:49:06] Icedream/rizon sushi-chan, never did and I will now check it out :o

[02:51:36] Icedream/rizon sushi-chan, you can definitely hear the "wavyness" from controlling the pitch. But without that (cuz after all that can be trained well) that's a very nice voice

[02:52:28] Icedream/rizon if that's the case, then I guess that's just a bit much for my taste. I rather prefer a slow and not so strong vibrato to a singing voice.

[02:52:42] Icedream/rizon That one sounds like a very fast and irregular vibrato, idk if that's part of the song

[02:53:20] Icedream/rizon Oh I do hear the intended vibrato at 3:48, sushi-chan

[02:53:27] Icedream/rizon that was a good part

[02:54:09] Icedream/rizon I feel like you eased more into the song in the second half somehow, it starts to sound very, very nice there

[02:55:33] Icedream/rizon cute :D how long have you been doing covers like that?

[02:56:05] Icedream/rizon if that's just a few months of doing it, that already sounds really good

[02:56:46] Icedream/rizon you do quite some karaoke I assume then as well?

[02:57:04] Icedream/rizon because I remembered that's a thing I know Filipinos tend to do a lot… should know as a half Filipino lol

[02:57:12] Icedream/rizon yet they still almost never get to hit the right notes.

[02:57:15] Icedream/rizon :P

[02:57:22] Icedream/rizon to be fair that's more for entertainment than actual practice to most people

[02:57:51] Icedream/rizon sushi-chan, keep working on it, this voice has potential

[03:00:16] Icedream/rizon damn I got disconnected

[03:00:17] Icedream/rizon what was the last thing i said

[03:00:55] Icedream/rizon linuxuser, the region where the filipino half of my family comes from is talking bisaya as well

[03:01:08] Icedream/rizon anyways, sushi-chan, what was the last thing i said

[03:01:14] Icedream/rizon cuz I tried linking something and my ISP just went nope

[03:02:00] Icedream/rizon hello, anyone even reading this lol

[03:02:35] Icedream/rizon [04:57:51] <Icedream> sushi-chan, keep working on it, this voice has potential

[03:02:35] Icedream/rizon [04:58:21] <Icedream> sushi-chan, you wanna hear me try to sing?

[03:02:35] Icedream/rizon [04:58:29] <Icedream> cuz I did a meme take on linkin park - in the end lol

[03:02:35] Icedream/rizon [04:59:33] <Icedream> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8VSLDQQuLk

[03:02:35] Icedream/rizon [04:58:51] <Icedream> nothing serious at all though, not like I'm gonna do a bunch of covers for youtube as a channel

[03:02:44] Icedream/rizon I'm just gonna send all of what I tried to write cuz my ISP sucked

[03:04:28] Icedream/rizon aloo_shu, if you say "I is producer" shouldn't that usually say "collab bro?" next lol

[03:05:17] Icedream/rizon sushi-chan, I don't think my voice is good for anything but imitating Patrick Star but thanks lol

[03:05:26] Icedream/rizon I'm not joking about Patrick Star btw, I did that and it sounded brilliant

[03:05:33] Icedream/rizon (also of course, radio voice)

[03:08:55] Icedream/rizon sushi-chan, nah I'm trying to upload my Patrick Star take lol

[03:08:59] Icedream/rizon https://up.icedream.tech/enigma.ogg

[03:09:11] Icedream/rizon I feel more like I can do silly voice acting than singing

[03:09:25] Icedream/rizon but I'm sure that somewhat deep voice comes in nicely for some things

[03:10:09] Icedream/rizon sushi-chan, I always am but that's the whole point

[03:10:24] Icedream/rizon I don't like to think that I'm exceeding at something compared to others because that makes me look like an ego lol

[03:10:31] Icedream/rizon lol nice

[03:11:01] Icedream/rizon proper distracted you with talking about ear licking and singing, that's a wild combination of topics for a chat

[03:11:46] Icedream/rizon have a good one sushi-chan!

[03:11:49] Icedream/rizon \o

[03:12:29] Icedream/rizon aloo_shu, yeah I don't usually collab, I was just poking fun at what other producers tend to do (on Discord even urgh)

[03:12:47] Icedream/rizon too many times where I started talking about something production related and I immediately have someone sliding into DMs to "collab bro plz"

[03:13:07] Icedream/rizon like nah man, I don't do collabs since the only thing I did with DaKevinn

[03:23:02] Icedream/rizon i prefer doing stuff on my own as well, i just like stuff to sound the way i like them to sound

[03:23:05] Icedream/rizon !bef

[03:23:09] Icedream/rizon !reload

[03:23:10] Icedream/rizon !bef

[03:23:15] Icedream/rizon !bef

[03:23:36] Icedream/rizon down to the point of mastering my music myself even

[03:24:21] Icedream/rizon though I will say there are enough people out there that know better how to make music sound loud and clear than i do

[03:24:33] Icedream/rizon i just don't wanna pay for it or wait for turnarounds or anything like that lol

[03:26:08] Icedream/rizon i let soundcloud's automated system master my tracks and the problem is it just normalized on the peaks instead of actually trying to make the sound more full

[03:26:28] Icedream/rizon i think it kinda expects your music to be loud already as opposed to the industry standard way of leaving -6 to -9 dB of headroom

[03:27:27] Icedream/rizon i will say i listen to reference tracks and they do seem to sound more impactful than what i can do

[03:28:20] Icedream/rizon i tried working with paid mastering plugins, too, such as ozone. has a wizard that tries to analyze your music as well and then you can manually adjust it afterwards for whatever sound you wish to go for. except it also gives you a lot more room to fuck it up and distort the sound lol.

[03:28:47] Icedream/rizon tools are great but you gotta know how to use them to get the most out of them.

[03:28:58] Icedream/rizon first world electronic music producer issues

[03:32:49] Icedream/rizon u-he does ring a bell

[03:33:20] Icedream/rizon but yeah if i were to do this properly, i'd probably split it up into multiple processing plugins instead of just one

[03:33:37] Icedream/rizon almost ashamed to admit i still lazy-ass it for a lot of stuff and just smash FL's Maximum on the master bus

[03:33:50] Icedream/rizon but hey, it sounds good enough if you don't fuck it up

[03:34:12] Icedream/rizon (not a fan of the single band compression at all)

[03:36:07] Icedream/rizon what's a good DAW in the FLOSS world atm?

[03:36:58] Icedream/rizon I use ardour for mixing down DJ set broadcasts live as I do them, combined with my USB audio interface

[03:37:04] Icedream/rizon but I don't use ardour for actual music production

[03:37:19] Icedream/rizon like the workflows are too far apart for me to consider it covering my music production use case

[03:37:37] Icedream/rizon the most I've seen that comes close is LMMS

[03:37:46] Icedream/rizon but I was expecting LMMS to not be alternative-less

[03:43:17] Icedream/rizon bitwig seems to be a go to for more and more producers as well yea

[03:43:28] Icedream/rizon i think it was one of the first DAWs to even have collaborative features

[03:44:18] Icedream/rizon honestly though I probably wouldn't even be sitting here doubting stuff if FL Studio just existed for Linux. I already paid for that and it does the job perfectly for the most part.

[03:44:41] Icedream/rizon then again with Wine that just works as well, the VSTs are actually the issue

[03:45:05] Icedream/rizon Gentoo, because being GNU-compliant isn't even nearly my most up front important thought when I think music production

[03:45:17] Icedream/rizon at this point I just care that stuff works and right now it doesn't

[03:45:35] Icedream/rizon the ecosystem is ridden of proprietary software that needs license checks and it just breaks on Linux

[03:45:53] Icedream/rizon open source/free alternatives either are too poor in comparison or don't exist, and I mean not the DAWs or music production software, I mean the plugins.

[03:46:40] Icedream/rizon idk how we even got to that topic

[03:46:47] Icedream/rizon like yeah sure, but that's not what I was getting at?

[03:47:25] Icedream/rizon oh right, I initially asked the question but I considered the question answered

[03:47:37] Icedream/rizon I'm not complaining at all, wtf

[03:47:47] Icedream/rizon I said that's a way of getting it working for me and just for me

[03:48:05] Icedream/rizon I wished FL existed for Linux is what I said, and right now you can get it working through Wine and all

[03:48:14] Icedream/rizon it's the plugins where it falls apart, and not even LMMS or Ardour can fix that

[03:48:18] Icedream/rizon at least if I go full Linux

[03:48:25] Icedream/rizon or GNU or whatever, idc

[03:48:35] Icedream/rizon I heard of reaper

[03:48:55] Icedream/rizon I couldn't care less if I tried, Gentoo

[03:49:20] Icedream/rizon and yes, my software dev half is cringing at that as much as the music producer half of my brain

[03:50:37] Icedream/rizon aloo_shu, might give it a try if I find the time to jump back into Arch for my main PC installation

[03:50:57] Icedream/rizon won't work on my Arch laptop since it's getting way too hot lol

[03:51:03] Icedream/rizon *too hot and slow

[03:51:30] Icedream/rizon yeah, but I'm not an arch pusher

[03:51:39] Icedream/rizon I like arch for my own reasons

[03:52:23] Icedream/rizon uh. amen. alright.

[03:54:17] Icedream/rizon If I mention LTT's take on how package managers can ruin your system if you're careless enough, how many lines of response can I expect

[03:55:35] Icedream/rizon Yes he ignored the warning. But that was just the start of the shitstorm lol.

[03:56:06] Icedream/rizon He didn't. And most gamers don't.

[03:56:33] Icedream/rizon Well, be prepared for a world of degenerates then, cuz many of them are switching to Linux atm.

[03:56:40] Icedream/rizon and they *want* things to work.

[03:56:49] Icedream/rizon they don't necessarily know *how* to make them work.

[03:57:09] Icedream/rizon ^

[03:57:18] Icedream/rizon and I wouldn't recommend Arch or Gentoo or any of those distros to them either

[03:58:12] Icedream/rizon anyways, that's my cue to leave, laters \o

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