Saturday, December 3, 2022
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ski/rizon
also to be able to declare automatic variables initialized to lambda expressions which capture (or copy, depending on nonlocal specifications) .. where the type of the lambda can't be written down (depends on implementation details, iiuc). so the only way to be able to put it in a variable is to infer the type of the variable
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ski/rizon
the latter is probaby the more important reason
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PapaFrog/rizon
Wouldn't this conflict with the auto storage specification?
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ski/rizon
(not having a way to specify these ("closure") function types is deliberate, so that you can't expose them in interface, can't e.g. assign them to a file-scope variable, can't return them ..)
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ski/rizon
hm, conflict, in which way ?
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ski/rizon
the lambda would be `auto' allocated
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ski/rizon
yea. this is if you omit the type, only have the `auto', and the identifier
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ski/rizon
iiuc, they've already deprecated `auto c;' standing for `auto int c;', in an earlier version of the standard
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ski/rizon
anyway, you already have incomplete types, like `char []' in `char s[] = {'h','e','l','l','o','\0'};'. in `int (*foo)(double,double) = [] (auto x,auto y) { return x < y ? -1 (x > y ? 1 : 0); };', the type of the initializing expression would also be incomplete, in this case being completed by the explicit type given to `foo'
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ski/rizon
(and a few more, as well, that looked interesting)
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c0ded/rizon
lol did I start a TCL shit talking ring?
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c0ded/rizon
it is the dumbest syntax of any lang I've ever worked with
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c0ded/rizon
same brackets for statements and functions?
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Peorth > *CLACK* Your gun is jammed, you must reload to unjam it... | Ammo: 2/6 | Chargers: 2/2
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DuckHunt/rizon
Peorth > *Crr..CLICK* You unjam your gun. | Ammo: 2/6 | Chargers: 2/2
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DuckHunt/rizon
Peorth > *BANG* You shot down the duck in 11.276s, which makes you a total of 5 ducks on #computertech. \_X< *KWAK* [10 xp]
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DuckHunt/rizon
Peorth > You lubricate your gun in exchange for 8 xp points. Jamming odds are halved and the grease also protects you one time against sand throw for 24h.
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PapaFrog/rizon
C uses the same brackets for blocks and functions, c0ded.
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ski/rizon
.. perhaps c0ded had the brackets of function calls in mind
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c0ded/rizon
hey PapaFrog , don't take away hating on TCL for
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ski/rizon
does it use curly brackets for function calls ?
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ski/rizon
(i can recall one other language which does that)
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c0ded/rizon
tbh, I don't remember, I tried fuckin with an eggdrop like 15 yrs ago, and just hated it
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c0ded/rizon
so I'm basically just being a biased cunt
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ski/rizon
(specifically, like `{MyFunction Arg0 42}' .. language is Oz. a multi-paradigm language (including with built-in concurrency support, including "declarative concurrency" using "dataflow variables" for thread communication and synchronization, but without data races) .. based on a logic programming core (even backtracking is an add-on, using "engines", can also be used for more fancy search
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ski/rizon
for constraint programming), adding functional programming, procedural programming, object-oriented programming ..)
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PapaFrog/rizon
Ohh.. Tcl does use curly brackets around the function parameters..
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c0ded/rizon
see I'm not totally crazy PapaFrog
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c0ded/rizon
also I like hating on it, something to do
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ski/rizon
well, you still could be, no ?
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c0ded/rizon
if it can't even tic a second then it just is sitting there
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c0ded/rizon
nah I'm just messing, idk what ppl code at
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c0ded/rizon
I'm not gonna code TCL, but I don't hate ppl that do
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c0ded/rizon
I just talk shit about their choice of lang
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c0ded/rizon
but I'll still use something else
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ski/rizon
even though lambdas, closures, nested functions, and even type inference, might be useful and fun, in C .. i think personally i'd consider parametric polymorphism (along with existentials) a more pressing concern (to avoid a large quantity of potentially unsafe pointer casts or conversions) .. mostly just codifying, and checking, current common practice, without adding extra behaviour or im
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Peorth > *CLACK* Your gun is jammed, you must reload to unjam it... | Ammo: 1/6 | Chargers: 2/2
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DuckHunt/rizon
Peorth > *Crr..CLICK* You unjam your gun. | Ammo: 1/6 | Chargers: 2/2
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DuckHunt/rizon
Peorth > *BANG* You shot down the duck in 17.516s, which makes you a total of 6 ducks on #computertech. \_X< *KWAK* [10 xp]
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c0ded > Luckily you missed, but what did you aim at ? There is no duck in the area... [missed: -1 xp] [wild fire: -1 xp] [GUN CONFISCATED: wild fire]
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Peorth > You just added an extra bullet in your gun in exchange for 7 xp points.
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ski/rizon
you could bake it in oven, with garlic, thyme, oregano, rosemary
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ski/rizon
it was nice, from what i recall
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ski/rizon
also, i recall opening oven lid and pouring water over it, once in a while, to keep it from drying too much
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not much, enjoying the beginning of my weekend and you? ;)
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ComputerTech > *BANG* The duck survived ! Try again. \_O< [life -1] * GOLDEN DUCK DETECTED *
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DuckHunt/rizon
ComputerTech > *CLICK* EMPTY MAGAZINE | Ammo: 0/6 | Chargers: 2/2
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ComputerTech > *CLACK CLACK* You reload. | Ammo: 6/6 | Chargers: 1/2
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ComputerTech > *BANG* The golden duck survived ! Try again. \_O< [life -1]
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DuckHunt/rizon
ComputerTech > *BANG* The golden duck survived ! Try again. \_O< [life -1]
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DuckHunt/rizon
ComputerTech > *BANG* The golden duck survived ! Try again. \_O< [life -1]
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ComputerTech > *CLACK* Your gun is jammed, you must reload to unjam it... | Ammo: 3/6 | Chargers: 1/2
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ComputerTech > *Crr..CLICK* You unjam your gun. | Ammo: 3/6 | Chargers: 1/2
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ComputerTech > *CLACK* Your gun is jammed, you must reload to unjam it... | Ammo: 3/6 | Chargers: 1/2
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ComputerTech > *Crr..CLICK* You unjam your gun. | Ammo: 3/6 | Chargers: 1/2
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DuckHunt/rizon
ComputerTech > *BANG* You shot down the golden duck in 3mn36.982s, which makes you a total of 4 ducks (including 1 golden duck) on #computertech. You are promoted to level 3 (trainee). \_X< *KWAK* [60 xp]
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akoizumi/rizon
got damn it CT who would listen to ads from a dj bot
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firewire > *BANG* You shot down the duck in 1mn5.066s, which makes you a total of 1 duck on #computertech. \_X< *KWAK* [10 xp]
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PapaFrog > *CLACK* Your gun is jammed, you must reload to unjam it... | Ammo: 0/6 | Chargers: 2/2
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PapaFrog > *Crr..CLICK* You unjam and reload your gun. | Ammo: 6/6 | Chargers: 1/2
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PapaFrog > *BANG* You shot down the duck in 39.537s, which makes you a total of 3 ducks on #computertech. You are promoted to level 2 (noob). \_X< *KWAK* [10 xp]
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[Big_Boss] Once you go Zack, you never go back.
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PapaFrog > *CLACK* Your gun is jammed, you must reload to unjam it... | Ammo: 5/6 | Chargers: 1/2
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DuckHunt/rizon
PapaFrog > *Crr..CLICK* You unjam your gun. | Ammo: 5/6 | Chargers: 1/2
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PapaFrog > *CLACK* Your gun is jammed, you must reload to unjam it... | Ammo: 5/6 | Chargers: 1/2
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DuckHunt/rizon
PapaFrog > *Crr..CLICK* You unjam your gun. | Ammo: 5/6 | Chargers: 1/2
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PapaFrog > *BANG* You shot down the duck in 13.062s, which makes you a total of 4 ducks on #computertech. \_X< *KWAK* [10 xp]
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End3r > *BANG* You shot down the duck in 3mn18.77s, which makes you a total of 2 ducks on #computertech. \_X< *KWAK* [10 xp]
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End3r > *BANG* You shot down the duck in 3mn14.797s, which makes you a total of 3 ducks on #computertech. You are promoted to level 2 (noob). \_X< *KWAK* [10 xp]
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Phoenix > You just added an extra bullet in your gun in exchange for 7 xp points.
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Phoenix > *BANG* You shot down the duck in 1mn36.373s, which makes you a total of 2 ducks on #computertech. \_X< *KWAK* [10 xp]
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DuckHunt/rizon
Phoenix > By searching the bushes around the duck, you find... a broken decoy.
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c0ded/rizon
if u have a friend who's a professional fighter and says "let's go to the gym" together, just be ready to be sore
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c0ded/rizon
and I didn't do anything like he did, but he told me what to do and on what
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jeff_stacey > *CLACK* Your gun is jammed, you must reload to unjam it... | Ammo: 2/6 | Chargers: 2/2
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DuckHunt/rizon
jeff_stacey > *Crr..CLICK* You unjam your gun. | Ammo: 2/6 | Chargers: 2/2
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jeff_stacey > *BANG* You shot down the duck in 11.237s, which makes you a total of 15 ducks on #computertech. \_X< *KWAK* [10 xp]
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PapaFrog > *CLACK* Your gun is jammed, you must reload to unjam it... | Ammo: 4/6 | Chargers: 1/2
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PapaFrog > *Crr..CLICK* You unjam your gun. | Ammo: 4/6 | Chargers: 1/2
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PapaFrog > *BANG* You shot down the duck in 35.009s, which makes you a total of 5 ducks on #computertech. \_X< *KWAK* [10 xp]
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OEM unlocking (connect to the internet or contact your carrier)
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Kanabit/rizon
anyone know how to get this option enabled?
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Quotes/rizon
[Quote] #272 added by foxy 1 day 15 hours 37 minutes 32 seconds ago.
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Quotes/rizon
[Quote] <&Amiga600> is CT ugly then? :o <%Ahsoka> Yes very <%Ahsoka> Its like he ran through the ugly forest and hit every tree
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[Quote] #131 added by Foxy 26 weeks 2 days 6 hours 42 minutes 58 seconds ago.
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[Quote] <@Zack> My ass hurts. <@TorS> mine to colby fucked me in my ass
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[Quote] 9 matches found: #213,55,131,124,197,157,103,88,134
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[Quote] #55 added by dramo 43 weeks 5 days 5 hours 33 minutes 24 seconds ago.
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c0ded/rizon
I lost interest, don't care anymore
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c0ded/rizon
think I'm gonna make some potstickers
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jeff_stacey > *CLACK* Your gun is jammed, you must reload to unjam it... | Ammo: 0/6 | Chargers: 2/2
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jeff_stacey > *Crr..CLICK* You unjam and reload your gun. | Ammo: 6/6 | Chargers: 1/2
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jeff_stacey > *CLACK* Your gun is jammed, you must reload to unjam it... | Ammo: 6/6 | Chargers: 1/2
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jeff_stacey > *Crr..CLICK* You unjam your gun. | Ammo: 6/6 | Chargers: 1/2
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jeff_stacey > *CLACK* Your gun is jammed, you must reload to unjam it... | Ammo: 6/6 | Chargers: 1/2
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jeff_stacey > *Crr..CLICK* You unjam your gun. | Ammo: 6/6 | Chargers: 1/2
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DuckHunt/rizon
jeff_stacey > *BANG* You shot down the duck in 32.867s, which makes you a total of 16 ducks on #computertech. \_X< *KWAK* [10 xp]
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jeff_stacey > *BANG* You shot down the duck in 3mn4.091s, which makes you a total of 17 ducks on #computertech. You are promoted to level 6 (duck hater). \_X< *KWAK* [10 xp]
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herald > *CLICK* EMPTY MAGAZINE | Ammo: 0/6 | Chargers: 2/2
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herald > *CLACK CLACK* You reload. | Ammo: 6/6 | Chargers: 1/2
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Frightened by so much noise, the duck fled. ·°'`'°-.,¸¸.·°'`
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herald > Luckily you missed, but what did you aim at ? There is no duck in the area... [missed: -1 xp] [wild fire: -1 xp] [GUN CONFISCATED: wild fire]
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Don't throw the poo balls at the U Hauls.
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*BANG* xO' Trivia just get shot by accident by firewire. [missed: -1 xp] [accident: -4 xp] [GUN CONFISCATED: hunting accident]
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harktheherald > *BANG* You shot down the duck in 2mn42.337s, which makes you a total of 1 duck on #computertech. \_X< *KWAK* [10 xp]
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harktheherald > *CLACK* Your gun is jammed, you must reload to unjam it... | Ammo: 5/6 | Chargers: 2/2
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herald > *BANG* You shot down the duck in 32.721s, which makes you a total of 3 ducks on #computertech. You are promoted to level 2 (noob). \_X< *KWAK* [10 xp]
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herald > *CLACK* Your gun is jammed, you must reload to unjam it... | Ammo: 2/6 | Chargers: 1/2
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herald > *Crr..CLICK* You unjam your gun. | Ammo: 2/6 | Chargers: 1/2
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herald > *BANG* You shot down the duck in 36.955s, which makes you a total of 4 ducks on #computertech. \_X< *KWAK* [10 xp]
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herald > By searching the bushes around the duck, you find... a broken mirror.
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The last duck has been seen 14 minutes and 55 seconds ago.
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An exception occurred and has been reported to the developers. If this error persists please do not use the faulty command until it has been fixed.
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jmjl
what's the easiest way to reach CT?
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g1n
jmjl: same question
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jmjl
I thought you wheren't online
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g1n
jmjl: check #lounge
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ski/rizon
talk in this channel to him ?
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jmjl
yea true too
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g1n
BlueyHealer/rizon: this chan is main english as i know
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ski/rizon
it's bridged to a bunch of IRC networks .. and also to some Discord guild, i think
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g1n
BlueyHealer/rizon: it is bridged to technet.chat
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jmjl
see ski's answer
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zxrom/rizon
BlueyHealer, Привет! Я не лох, просто анекдот такой есть.
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ski/rizon
you're connected to IRC yes, BlueyHealer
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jmjl
zxrom/rizon: could you speak english plz?
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jmjl
or every language is allowed?
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BlueyHealer/rizon
That's why I was confused when you mentioned Technet. I am on their IRC, actually.
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zxrom/rizon
Are you forcing us to speak English? Or ask?
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jmjl
not forcing
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BlueyHealer/rizon
I just saw "nR" being used and I was told it can bridge outside of IRC.4
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zxrom/rizon
We wrote untranslatable words into a foreign language.
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jmjl
I think it's not possible to use pyl to bridge outside of irc
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jmjl
unless you client connect it to a server which does connect to outside of irc
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zxrom/rizon
Are there fans of retro technologies from the 70s or 80s of the last century on this channel?
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jmjl
I presume yes
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BlueyHealer/rizon
Ah, okay. I've seen schematics for an 8-bit computer in one of Radio's recent issues.
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BlueyHealer/rizon
IDK how practical this is, I 'm not interested in assembling such things. I'm a fan of as few "black boxes" as possible, that's why my first radio is Radio-76M2.
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zxrom/rizon
CRISS CP/M DIY homebrew computer?
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BlueyHealer/rizon
Given how the assembled part of the radio looks right now... I have no idea how I'm going to get a license for this thing once I get it to fully work.
[09:06:33]
zxrom/rizon
Any black box from the 80s can be disassembled and created on transistors. Or FPGA.
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spyda/rizon
joined #computertech
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BlueyHealer/rizon
I never actually finished the final, fourth board since I had no oscilloscope access during the summer.
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Rizon/rizon
set mode +b *!*@8CCCDA9F.15091B4F.6113F46.IP
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Rizon/rizon
kicked BlueyHealer/rizon (Watch your language!)
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zxrom/rizon
FPGA is very practical. Even more practical than discrete microcircuits from the 80s.
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DuckHunt/rizon
jmjl > *BANG* You shot down the duck in 1mn58.333s, which makes you a total of 1 duck on #computertech. \_X< *KWAK* [10 xp]
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zxrom/rizon
Rizon, Why did you kick my interlocutor?
[09:10:39]
jmjl
rizon is not a real user
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ski/rizon
(it's bridged between TechNet,Rizon,Libera,IRC-nERDs .. and, i think DarkWorld,DeadGnomeSociety, and probably more i forgot)
[09:13:30]
jmjl
you can see the nick list and see where's it bridged to
[09:14:33]
ski/rizon
(your last message looks like "<nR> [technet] <@jmjl> oh" here, not like "<jmjl/rizon> oh")
[09:14:58]
jmjl
that it was a clientbot on rizon
[09:15:36]
jmjl
rizon, unfoundedlamers, libera, stardust, darenet, unrealircd, ichat, irc-nerds, freenode, efnet, coders-irc
[09:15:42]
jmjl
that's the list of slinks shown on this side
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ski/rizon
zxrom : well .. i had (have) C64s .. if that counts as "retro technologies"
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ski/rizon
ah, yes, you said "home computers"
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ski/rizon
's currently, on and off, trying to disassemble and reverse-engineer a program from 1986
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ski/rizon
's half asleep, only now noticed the kick ..
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zxrom/rizon
ski, I don't have C64. I am a fan of Atari and ZX Spectrum. ZX clones were the most popular computers in the USSR!
[09:21:40]
ski/rizon
hm, Knightlore came out on the Speccy, iirc
[09:22:08]
ski/rizon
(and presumably also some other machines .. i don't recall)
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zxrom/rizon
ski, You can even buy a set of parts today and assemble the popular Soviet ZX clones. The Pentagon 128 clone is the Russian demoscene standard.
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ski/rizon
official name, back in the day, was "Pentagon 128" ?
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zxrom/rizon
Beta Disk 128 Interface with TR-DOS included.