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Thursday, December 22, 2022

[03:18:24] ski/rizon (they are like that. i have enjoyed chatting with them in the past, and probably still would. they can sometimes be a bit hard to converse with, though. and they do have an issue with some things, like above)

[03:19:38] ski/rizon needs to learn a bit better how to engage with conversations. help themselves, if you will. possibly with some suggestions/help/explanations of others, i dunno

[03:20:30] ski/rizon glad to hear that, c0ded

[03:21:06] ski/rizon c0ded : and now ?

[03:45:59] ski/rizon is it a sheep, or a goat ?

[07:11:13] ski/rizon i heard someone say that you don't really get less afraid, at least generally. you get more brave

[07:11:37] ski/rizon by voluntarily confronting something that you're scared of, little by little, and realizing it's not so bad

[07:11:54] ski/rizon you get braver, in every situation, not just in situations relating to what you were scared of

[07:12:24] ski/rizon (although probably to differing degrees, to some extent, i'd expect)

[07:13:09] ski/rizon yea, you probably still would need to tackle them. but, if this person was right, doing the next one should be somewhat easier

[07:13:41] ski/rizon nR just threw a fit, and decided to mess around with channel bans and stuff

[07:13:56] ski/rizon presumably since it reconnected, for some reason

[07:14:02] ski/rizon (i didn't notice it had disconnected)

[07:14:38] ski/rizon it's sad when i see a spider which's lost a leg (or more)

[07:15:03] ski/rizon apparently nR was gone for a little over two hours

[07:15:26] ski/rizon "dont_thread_on_me!~dont_thre@49BF97A9.611F2EC.65E396DF.IP" -- hah :)

[07:16:33] ski/rizon life is incurable, we all die of it, in the end

[07:17:15] ski/rizon i think some people are not afraid of dying

[07:17:24] ski/rizon but it's probably rare

[07:17:59] ski/rizon some people are really convinced of an afterlife, which in a sense makes them "invulnerable"

[07:18:28] ski/rizon some are also fanatical towards a cause, identifying with it so much that they don't care if they die

[07:19:03] ski/rizon yea .. but altruistic instinct also probably has evolutionary survival value

[07:19:13] ski/rizon risking your own life for your kin and tribe

[07:19:23] ski/rizon (especially for your children)

[07:20:37] ski/rizon i recall hearing somewhere that, about people who jump from bridges (this was some specific high bridge, i don't recall where), most don't survive, but of those that do, almost all regretted jumping, right after the jump

[07:22:07] ski/rizon afaik, only humans, yea. probably related to us understanding future, and being able to plan for it. being able to conceptualize the notion of scarifice (putting something off now, for gains later, to yourself, or people you identify with)

[07:22:30] ski/rizon s/scarifice/sacrifice/

[07:24:45] ski/rizon humans also realize that they're vulnerable, because of discovering future. animals (at least most, afaik) live in the here and now (some store food for winter and so, but afaik, that's more of an instinct). because of this, they realize how they can hurt others deliberately, by reflecting on what would hurt themselves. the invention of malice

[07:26:29] ski/rizon i'm not sure if i'm scared of death itself. sure i don't really want to die, and i don't want to have pain in connection to it

[07:27:42] ski/rizon i guess i probably still are afraid of it, on some level. but i don't really feel it too much, consciously, i think, like in daily life. if i was exposed to a dangerous, life-threatening, situation, it might flare up though

[07:28:30] ski/rizon it's also a selfish option, if you have any loved ones, or people depending on you

[07:30:46] ski/rizon (of course i realize that that may seem like putting extra burden on suicidal people. but i do know it can also help acting like a positive deterrant. i remember chatting with someone. he's said that he's been having suicidal thoughts, his whole life, and basically his reason for not committing suicide, is that he found his wife, whom he loves, and he now have kids (and grandkids iirc), and

[07:30:52] ski/rizon want to hurt them, by ending his life. so they're acting as an anchor in his life, which he's grateful for)

[07:31:23] ski/rizon "But i think suicidal people so r depressed they think they're a burden to everyone else and tht if they die their family members, friends etc would get \"rid\" of him/her" -- yes, very common

[07:35:56] ski/rizon i also recall reading a book by a bipolar woman. she's now and then, getting strong suicidal impulses. she's also married, and loves her husband and kids. anyway, at one point, she was at some major political event (with people from many different parties campaigning. also scientists and cultural stuff, and other organizations showing off stuff to public at the same "festival" thing), and s

[07:36:02] ski/rizon participating in some debate there. and someone there (i think it was, or maybe online) was accusing her of being so privileged (being a somewhat successful book author, and holding lectures), and not being able to have compassion for, or understand, how bad people on the lower social classes actually have it. but only a few hours before that, she's seriously considered ending her life, by

[07:36:08] ski/rizon the ocean. only thing stopping her was basically thoughts of her family

[07:37:06] ski/rizon you never know what a person is going through, struggling with, in their private life. they may appear successful, but if you knew their situation, you might not want to swap with them

[07:39:57] ski/rizon i've been somewhat sympathetic towards "suicide should be a choice like euthanasia" in the past. but i've changed opinion. partially because of what you're saying. partially because i do not trust authorities with this power. old people (and not so old, as well) often also feel like they're just a burden to their family, and may feel pressured into accepting euthanasia, implicitly or explic

[07:40:03] ski/rizon think we, as a civilization, do need to longer lived timespan experience, and (potentially) life wisdom, of our elders

[07:42:02] ski/rizon i (hopefully obviously) don't want to get back to shaming people who have suicidal ideation, or have attempted though. or shunning in various ways, after it's happened

[07:43:03] ski/rizon i think shaming can, in certain circumstances, be a useful societal force. we still have taboos, in our culture

[07:43:29] ski/rizon (there's a reason, evolutionarily speaking, why we can experience shame)

[07:43:47] ski/rizon but i agree with what you're saying

[07:44:13] ski/rizon yea. immutable (or not that mutable) characteristics

[07:45:00] ski/rizon FireWire : would you like to add anything ?

[07:45:08] ski/rizon ah, have a nice breakfast :)

[07:45:17] ski/rizon thank you for the conversation

[07:48:30] ski/rizon of which ?

[07:50:04] ski/rizon (and what did you mean to refer to, when you said it was complex ?)

[07:50:52] ski/rizon yea .. pathologies of the mind or psyche are often not looked upon as "real diseases"

[07:52:46] ski/rizon there can be many different things making you think life isn't worth living, yea

[07:55:02] ski/rizon one would be being dealt a bad hand, by life, in terms of career, or love life, &c. another would be having trouble seeing any point in it all, even if you may look successful (having existential problems. iirc, Viktor Frankl, a psychiatrist (and holocaust survivor) wrote quite a bit about this)

[18:21:14] ski/rizon ComputerTech : (intending to) code one in C, as well ?

[18:31:52] ski/rizon najs

[19:16:52] ski/rizon nothing to see here then, guv'nor ?

[19:18:32] ski/rizon sounded right, to me

[19:22:57] ski/rizon lack of fine motor skills would seem to present a problem

[20:03:25] ski/rizon emptied ?

[20:07:23] ski/rizon i don't think there was any major change in bans, last week ?

[22:13:32] ski/rizon baobab is a tree, i think ?

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