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[05:25:01] MatCat/rizon sup

[05:25:31] MatCat/rizon :P

[05:25:58] MatCat/rizon danke

[05:26:36] MatCat/rizon not much, listening to some zappa

[05:28:30] MatCat/rizon lol what did he say, I had him on ignore

[05:29:15] MatCat/rizon lol

[05:29:26] MatCat/rizon trying to bring drama from other chans :P

[05:32:18] MatCat/rizon ComputerTech what your bots written in?

[05:32:29] MatCat/rizon your own base?

[05:32:34] MatCat/rizon nice

[05:32:41] MatCat/rizon not a fan of python, but nice for making your own base :)

[05:32:52] MatCat/rizon my bot is writen in php lol

[05:33:22] MatCat/rizon I need to finish prepping my bots codebase for open source

[05:34:35] MatCat/rizon lol no, but it started as a personal project for a low key basic bot, but morphed into much more

[05:34:47] MatCat/rizon there is a lot I want to do with the code base before its really ready for others to use it

[05:35:23] MatCat/rizon mainly to use it

[05:39:32] MatCat/rizon mmmm wet fish

[05:42:55] MatCat/rizon boop

[05:43:34] MatCat/rizon https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/095/236/130.jpg

[05:44:53] MatCat/rizon ComputerTech where is tr bridging to?

[05:45:04] MatCat/rizon sh

[05:45:06] MatCat/rizon ah*

[05:45:37] MatCat/rizon I should apply to add a node to rizon lol

[05:46:06] MatCat/rizon I have a very small network, is it a network if its only 1 node? :P

[05:47:59] MatCat/rizon lol

[06:59:57] MatCat/rizon hrm, accidently got lidocaine on my lips, not they are numb

[07:01:46] MatCat/rizon login: so I must ask, what do you think of snakes?

[07:02:18] MatCat/rizon don't be scared :)

[07:02:26] MatCat/rizon I keep and breed snakes

[07:04:08] MatCat/rizon herald: you just learned of my snake keeping?

[07:04:44] MatCat/rizon well I have stoner memory :)

[07:05:41] MatCat/rizon I love my snakes :)

[07:08:18] MatCat/rizon snakes emotions aren't as obvious as a dog or a cat, so would I say love? no, but they certainly learn to trust you and accept you

[07:08:26] MatCat/rizon and they do remember

[17:47:17] MatCat/rizon crovax I is online

[17:47:50] MatCat/rizon just woke up

[17:55:07] MatCat/rizon sup foxy

[18:01:30] MatCat/rizon not too bad

[20:01:45] MatCat/rizon spare the rod spoil the child, parents don't hit their children to hurt them, they do it for the shock value, its not meant to hurt, its meant to get the kid to realize they messed up, if I wasn't hit as a kid I would of grown up to be a real demon

[20:03:10] MatCat/rizon I was not abused

[20:03:12] MatCat/rizon I was properly raised

[20:03:26] MatCat/rizon there is a difference between a simple smack that gets attention, and actual child abuse

[20:04:38] MatCat/rizon you are free to raise your kids how you wish, but if you don't get through to them as many kids wont be gotten through with mere words, then you will raise a self entitled little shit that will make the world a worse place, its not child abuse to hit a child in a way to get attention, again its not to hurt them, its to get attention in ways words cannot do

[20:05:46] MatCat/rizon I am not talking about hitting women

[20:05:52] MatCat/rizon you are

[20:06:00] MatCat/rizon adults are not children

[20:06:40] MatCat/rizon sushi-chan: yes and as a child I needed to be smacked a few times to get the lesson, thats life

[20:06:48] MatCat/rizon I am GLAD my parents raised me properly

[20:06:55] MatCat/rizon its not beating

[20:06:58] MatCat/rizon thats the thing

[20:07:18] MatCat/rizon when I got smacked as a kid it was never a point of pain, or a beating, it was just enough to get me to realize when words would not

[20:09:11] MatCat/rizon lol when I was a teen my grandmother would hit me with high healed shoes, and honestly she wasn't strong enough for it to even hurt

[20:13:14] MatCat/rizon sushi-chan: those words are far worse then any smack your mom could give you I assure you, words can be far worse then a little physical interaction

[20:14:48] MatCat/rizon sushi-chan: thats a sad generalzation that you are making, it sounds like you where actually abused, and conflate loving healthy smacks from a parent to a child to stop bad behavior, for actual abuse, which 99% of smacks a parent gives are not abuse, if your parents really told you such words then you where actually abused, which is very different

[20:15:30] MatCat/rizon h4: doesn't work on adults from a stranger

[20:16:05] MatCat/rizon h4: well you aren't my parent, and I am not a child, so I don't have the proper respect for you as I would a parent for that to matter

[20:18:29] MatCat/rizon h4: also in all discussions there are 2 sides to a story, it seems to me you would rather control the narrative, then engage in a discussion where both sides of a view are explorered where hopefully all sides involved even if they don't agree, come to an understanding of how the other side views it, big problem in the world today is that everyone seems to think that any idea against our

[20:18:29] MatCat/rizon own is somehow bad and must be banished, rather then discussed

[20:19:40] MatCat/rizon I have +g on one sec

[20:20:02] MatCat/rizon login: its pm ignore basically

[20:21:32] MatCat/rizon login: you have to pm them first for them to pm you

[20:21:45] MatCat/rizon yes

[20:27:30] MatCat/rizon generally its not ideal for someone to be an op that feels the need to randomly kick people, that type of instability can scare users away from a chan, only been in here for half day and I already feel h4 is unstable and messing with vibes of the chan, doesn't even know me and kicked me for taking part in a civil discussion. ComputerTech is a friend, why I am here and why I got +h on

[20:27:30] MatCat/rizon joining, but can't say I really like it when ops abuse powers. Just my 2 cents

[20:28:50] MatCat/rizon h4: I am a verbose person, I am not one of these zoomers with ADHD like attention spans and tiktok level of engagement, I put thought into what I say, and sometimes it takes more then 3-5 words to do that.

[20:29:51] MatCat/rizon sushi-chan what country are you in?

[20:30:04] MatCat/rizon ah

[20:30:38] MatCat/rizon one of the reasons I will never live in a city or highly populated area :)

[20:31:04] MatCat/rizon ski: that I am not a zoomer? or that I am verbose in my responses? :)

[20:31:18] MatCat/rizon the AK-45, its 2 cents short of an AK-47 lol

[20:32:31] MatCat/rizon fun fact, AK-47s are insanely rare, most AK's you see today are AKM's (I am a gun guy, know lots about guns)

[20:34:01] MatCat/rizon the original AK-47 receiver was actually billet steel milled down, whereis the AKM which started production about 2 years after the AK-47 uses stamped sheet steel to make the receiver, cheaper, and faster to make, and a few minor differences in the design

[20:34:23] MatCat/rizon Mikoolo: once they switched from milled to stamped it became the AKM, no longer AK-47

[20:34:38] MatCat/rizon Mikoolo: just people continued to call it AK-47 so the name sort of stuck even though its not technically true

[20:34:58] MatCat/rizon the first ones where milled actually

[20:35:06] MatCat/rizon but it was too expensive and time consuming, so they switched to stamping

[20:35:33] MatCat/rizon Mikoolo: Not going to argu, I am an FFL, collect guns :)

[20:36:07] MatCat/rizon I have an 03

[20:36:18] MatCat/rizon milling is much more time consuming

[20:36:48] MatCat/rizon Mikoolo: I am talking about production, not prototypes, there where prototyped stamped AK's but the first production was milled

[20:37:03] MatCat/rizon the reason is stamped sheet metal is harder to design properly

[20:37:26] MatCat/rizon but once you get the stamping tech down its much faster and cheaper

[20:37:42] MatCat/rizon milled receivers are stronger though

[20:38:00] MatCat/rizon all AR receivers are milled for example

[20:38:29] MatCat/rizon although the AR uses alumnium, not steel like AK did

[20:38:39] MatCat/rizon milling aluminium is much easier to do

[20:39:42] MatCat/rizon login: what country are you in?

[20:41:07] MatCat/rizon you keep your country a secret? :P

[20:41:35] MatCat/rizon lol

[20:41:46] MatCat/rizon Mikoolo what about you, you know a bit about guns, makes me think you may be American like me

[20:42:01] MatCat/rizon lol

[20:42:11] MatCat/rizon well most people in Europe aren't that well educated on guns

[20:42:21] MatCat/rizon I <3 Ian

[20:42:25] MatCat/rizon gun jesus

[20:43:04] MatCat/rizon the AK has a lot more 'openings' makes it easier for stuff to get into the action

[20:43:29] MatCat/rizon also the gas impingement design of the AR helps to self clean out some stuff

[20:43:46] MatCat/rizon well, lets not forget AR isn't a model, its a brand technically

[20:43:55] MatCat/rizon correct

[20:44:29] MatCat/rizon volvos are pretty popular in USA, even though I dislike cars from europe lol

[20:46:03] MatCat/rizon Mikoolo: what kind?

[20:46:05] MatCat/rizon ahh

[20:46:15] MatCat/rizon I need to get a mauser in my collection

[20:46:55] MatCat/rizon my oldest rifle is a 1926 mosin, that was finish reworked in late 30s, one of my best bolt actions actually

[20:47:23] MatCat/rizon the fins really knew how to give them russian mosins the treatment to make them nice

[20:48:15] MatCat/rizon an artistic shot of my mosin :P https://www.mcfile.in/f/72efe193feb148cf98d9/?raw=1

[20:48:42] MatCat/rizon better view of it https://www.mcfile.in/f/ea4b2874d4424186911d/?raw=1

[20:49:27] MatCat/rizon as you can see in 2nd pic its a full as issued set

[20:49:51] MatCat/rizon its a war bring back

[20:49:53] MatCat/rizon from WW2

[20:49:56] MatCat/rizon so yeah

[20:50:43] MatCat/rizon on such historical guns you dont mess with them, you keep them original

[20:50:57] MatCat/rizon I can get tons of mausers

[20:51:00] MatCat/rizon I just havent

[20:51:14] MatCat/rizon there are tons of mausers in the USA

[20:52:48] MatCat/rizon Mikoolo: what are swedish laws on semi auto rifles?

[20:53:45] MatCat/rizon yes I am aware

[20:53:50] MatCat/rizon thats generally the case in all of EU

[20:54:14] MatCat/rizon yeah Czech instituted their own form of 2A

[20:54:36] MatCat/rizon you would think Europe would of learned from WW2 why it should strust its poeple with firearms, but eh, apperently noty

[20:55:45] MatCat/rizon I personally accept an elevation in some crime to give the vast majority the right to defend against such crime

[20:56:47] MatCat/rizon the thing is atleast in USA people misunderstand polices job, its not to protect property, its to investigate crime and act as a deterence when visible, cops can't be everywhere at once, and they can't arrive instantly when called, hence their job becauses and is primnarily investigation

[20:57:16] MatCat/rizon lol becauses, becomes*

[20:57:46] MatCat/rizon login: thats politicians that do that :)

[20:57:55] MatCat/rizon the police are just the tool of the politician to enforce their policy

[20:59:09] MatCat/rizon https://www.mcfile.in/f/37d7f9d67215475fa539/?raw=1

[21:00:40] MatCat/rizon login: it can be more complicated then you may think, sure shooting cans or targets at 10 yards isn't that hard to figure out, but when you start talking hunting where aim matters, moving targets, targets farther out then 100 yards, there is a lot more skill that comes into play

[21:01:24] MatCat/rizon login: also in self defense use, it takes a lot of training to do it properly when under pressure of your life possibly being in threat etc

[21:03:03] MatCat/rizon well in USA the legal issues are generally not that complicated, did you fear for your life in a way that any reasonable person would? then you usually will be fine

[21:03:49] MatCat/rizon I have actually used a gun twice in my life in legit self defense

[21:03:53] MatCat/rizon NOT that I shot anyone

[21:03:58] MatCat/rizon both times I didn't even have to pull the trigger

[21:04:07] MatCat/rizon just getting the gun out of the holster was enough

[21:10:52] MatCat/rizon login: I don't know about uk / eu laws on the subject, but in the USA criminal law is always based on intent

[21:11:17] MatCat/rizon Mikoolo: lol that 1911 looks comical

[21:11:58] MatCat/rizon manslaughter in USA would require that the death you caused be unmerited, I.E. if it wasn't found to be self defense

[21:12:23] MatCat/rizon irish666 proper term is supressor

[21:13:22] MatCat/rizon login: I would say fear of violence, not threat of it, I.E. home invasions are much more rare in US states with strong gun ownership, because people fear getting shot going into someones home where they know there is a high chance of a gun being there used against htem

[21:14:23] MatCat/rizon also login why mass shootings are more common in gun free zones, because they know there is no one there to stop them from doing it

[21:15:04] MatCat/rizon login: that assumes criminals will obey the gun signs, they dont :)

[21:15:25] MatCat/rizon login: that also assumes its the common gun owner that will be violent, its not

[21:16:36] MatCat/rizon login: fun fact in the USA, people with conceal carry permits to carry a gun, are on average 5x less likely to commit a crime then even a cop

[21:17:45] MatCat/rizon login: when you get a conceal carry permit, part of the training in that is you are taught to ALWAYS avoid conflict when possible, because you don't want to make a situation worse where it may escelate to use of force, so yes we are taught to AVOID as much as is realistic inflaming a situation

[21:17:57] MatCat/rizon login: not in the USA it doesnt

[21:18:11] MatCat/rizon in fact 27 states any adult 18+ can carry a gun with no permit at all

[21:18:42] MatCat/rizon yes concealed

[21:19:08] MatCat/rizon yep

[21:19:13] MatCat/rizon any of them could

[21:19:31] MatCat/rizon in those states, often so :)

[21:20:07] MatCat/rizon I agree it should be every state

[21:20:28] MatCat/rizon login: people asking for change often cant afford a gun lol

[21:20:44] MatCat/rizon it shouldn't cause any stress

[21:21:08] MatCat/rizon login: I am much more comfortable when I am in a place where I know many people are armed, vs when I am somewhere where few are

[21:21:43] MatCat/rizon no because I know crime is far less likely

[21:22:13] MatCat/rizon false

[21:22:20] MatCat/rizon you assume everyone with a gun has bad intention

[21:22:21] MatCat/rizon and its the opposite

[21:22:38] MatCat/rizon ski: a new state just recently passed it, forget which

[21:23:03] MatCat/rizon in my opinion bad intention is rare in humanity

[21:23:05] MatCat/rizon its not 0

[21:23:06] MatCat/rizon but its rare

[21:23:21] MatCat/rizon it did, the one state was immediate effect

[21:23:25] MatCat/rizon florida was one that had a delay

[21:24:13] MatCat/rizon login: that sounds a lot like you manifest what you fear :)

[21:24:33] MatCat/rizon but that becomes a you prob, not a humanity prob

[21:26:07] MatCat/rizon login: fun fact on that, a lot of people that I have met that are very anti-gun, are so because they dont trust themselves with a gun, and hence can only see others in the way they see themselves, they assume no one is stable

[21:26:46] MatCat/rizon login: false, I have done it twice

[21:27:02] MatCat/rizon no with a pistol

[21:27:34] MatCat/rizon blah: a very sad bit of misinformation by anti-gun organizations

[21:28:56] MatCat/rizon blake: honestly I have yet to meet a legal gun owner that I feared, feel more comfortable around them

[21:30:00] MatCat/rizon login: when you see a fire extinisher do you feel the building owner is scared of a fire? a tool is a tool right?

[21:31:03] MatCat/rizon like, I dont carry a gun because I fear, I carry one because its a tool that could come in handy, the old saying I would rather have it and not need it, then to not have it and need it.

[21:31:30] MatCat/rizon USA :P

[21:31:58] MatCat/rizon well I go back and forth between Northern Cali and Oregon, I have property in both states

[21:32:16] MatCat/rizon blah: no no military

[21:32:21] MatCat/rizon Yes I have a CCW

[21:32:52] MatCat/rizon I have had CCW for 8 years now

[21:34:02] MatCat/rizon blah: I am very libertarian in my views, I think that all people have a right to defend themselves, I think that if you don't trust someone I.E. a violent felon to have a gun, then they shouldn't be trusted to be out in general population. Why release them from prison if you don't trust them

[21:34:14] MatCat/rizon nice \g, what county?

[21:34:25] MatCat/rizon shotguns can't be CCw'd lol

[21:34:49] MatCat/rizon login: thats part of it, but its mainly for element of surprise, you don't want the bad guy to know your armed

[21:35:02] MatCat/rizon LA isn't the worst, or the best county to get a CCW

[21:35:16] MatCat/rizon Mikoolo I understand but not a legal CCW weapon in USA

[21:36:09] MatCat/rizon no you can't \h

[21:36:11] MatCat/rizon \g*

[21:36:18] MatCat/rizon only pistols

[21:36:34] MatCat/rizon I will have to double check buy Oregon I know thats not true

[21:37:59] MatCat/rizon my AR-15 pistol I made a concealment bag for, looks like a gym bag on outside, inside it holds the AR-15 pistol and 12 mag's

[21:38:29] MatCat/rizon login: antone trying to obtain your gun is automatic OK for self defense, if they get it there is a high chance they use it on you or others

[21:39:36] MatCat/rizon \g: waiting on Benitez to strike down calis AW ban laws, I keep a lot of my cali illegal guns in ORegon for that reason

[21:40:25] MatCat/rizon \g: https://www.mcfile.in/f/37d7f9d67215475fa539/?raw=1

[21:41:11] MatCat/rizon \g: that is my truck gun :)

[21:41:24] MatCat/rizon its chambered in 300 blk, not 556

[21:41:41] MatCat/rizon the grip fins in Cali are so stupid

[21:41:49] MatCat/rizon login: in some states yes

[21:42:15] MatCat/rizon yes in duty to retreat you have to run away if you can

[21:42:24] MatCat/rizon cali oddly enough is a stand your ground state

[21:42:40] MatCat/rizon you would think as anti-gun as cali is it would be duty to reteat, but its not

[21:43:18] MatCat/rizon I can tell you this, if someone tries to rub me I am pulling a gun out when its viable to do so lol

[21:43:34] MatCat/rizon LOL

[21:43:38] MatCat/rizon what a typo

[21:43:56] MatCat/rizon just back away from them

[21:44:18] MatCat/rizon I try not to let people get any closer then like 20 feet from me if I can unless I know them

[21:44:42] MatCat/rizon well its the 20 foot rule

[21:45:02] MatCat/rizon someone 20 feet or closer to you and you don't have time to draw a gun on them before they can stab you or whatever

[21:45:16] MatCat/rizon so I try to follow the 20 foot rule

[21:45:39] MatCat/rizon if I know and trust them obviously yeah

[21:46:02] MatCat/rizon and of course in real world you can't always keep people 20 feet away (like standing in line at store)

[21:46:15] MatCat/rizon MissUnderstood: how come you left #mcchat?

[21:46:45] MatCat/rizon no login lol

[21:47:24] MatCat/rizon guns are only ment for potential life threating scenarios, so using one to enforce a 20 foot rule would be bad :P

[21:48:14] MatCat/rizon login: no thats not how it works, its based on knifes

[21:48:31] MatCat/rizon login: if someone is coming at you within 20 feet with a knife you cannot react fast enough to get a gun out to stop them

[21:49:12] MatCat/rizon if someone tells me that I am totally pitting my hand on my gun lol

[21:49:34] MatCat/rizon I put my hand on my gun all the time when I am out and about, doesn't mean I am pulling it out :P

[21:52:32] MatCat/rizon I am not

[21:52:36] MatCat/rizon nor is having a gun scarey

[21:53:04] MatCat/rizon a tool is a tool

[21:53:17] MatCat/rizon both times I used a gun in self defense it was purely defense

[21:53:22] MatCat/rizon since I never fired a round

[21:53:37] MatCat/rizon you could also bash someones head in with a shield, making it offensive

[21:54:49] MatCat/rizon MissUnderstood: first time, I pulled into my office complex in Oregon, I saw a homeless guy beating another homeless guys head in with a rock, so I pulled my gun and yelled at him to stop, he stopped, threw the rock at me (I was 60 feet away so it had no chance of getting to me) and he ran off

[21:55:30] MatCat/rizon login: real life isn't like a movie :)P

[21:56:51] MatCat/rizon MissUnderstood: second time, I was driving taxi for work and I was eating taco bell on my lunch break at 2am, some dude ran up to my car and opened the door and demaned I take him for a ride, I said no I am on break, but I can call a taxi to get him, and he started to come into the taxi yelling NO we where going NOW, so I umholstered my gun, and he ran off

[21:57:18] MatCat/rizon login: you don't want to advertise you have guns, becausse they will just wait until your not home, and go steal your guns

[21:58:13] MatCat/rizon Ahsoka: have I told you I have a snake named Ahsoka?

[21:58:44] MatCat/rizon login: it goes back to intent, a booby trap is indiscriminate of intent hence illegal

[21:59:20] MatCat/rizon jan6: best to have hungry lions in the cellar they fall into :P

[22:00:26] MatCat/rizon I should put a sign on my house warning of attack snakes

[22:00:53] MatCat/rizon I like boobies :)

[22:01:43] MatCat/rizon there is a company that makes an alarm system that uses blank 12 gauge shells, its not ment to shoot or hurt anyone, just go off with a loud pop

[22:02:24] MatCat/rizon not even shots

[22:02:33] MatCat/rizon since its just a blank

[22:06:01] MatCat/rizon part of the prob with doing your own melts is trust, people will trust known mintings more so then random gold, plus its hard to melt your own gold down and get the same purity that the gold you started with had

[22:06:52] MatCat/rizon irish666: its not that high lol, but part of it is trust, not just the cost of minting

[22:08:31] MatCat/rizon lol

[22:08:49] MatCat/rizon yeah there are non-desstructive methods

[22:10:08] MatCat/rizon I have a good bit of silver

[22:10:48] MatCat/rizon I keep silver in the case of economic collapse

[22:10:52] MatCat/rizon gold too

[22:11:14] MatCat/rizon I have the tools to make my own ammo login

[22:11:23] MatCat/rizon but ammo is made from lead

[22:11:33] MatCat/rizon yes

[22:11:43] MatCat/rizon only if you eat it

[22:11:55] MatCat/rizon solid metal is hard to breathe

[22:12:06] MatCat/rizon smelting it doesn't give off anything harmful

[22:12:11] MatCat/rizon no it doesn't login

[22:12:16] MatCat/rizon smelting isn't hot enough to vaporize it

[22:12:57] MatCat/rizon you will get more lead in you from shooting in an indoor range then you will smelting lead (the bullets hitting the backstop and breaking up as well as little bit of the lead being vaporized from the act of firing)

[22:13:27] MatCat/rizon although most modern ammo is copper jacketed so you wont get direct lead dust from firing usually

[22:14:56] MatCat/rizon irish666: war is often very toxic, lot of people die of cancers and such after fighting in war

[22:15:34] MatCat/rizon yeah, most modern 1st world countries give their soldiers electronic ear pro though these days

[23:17:01] MatCat/rizon we need to ban zoomers

[23:51:00] MatCat/rizon I like great meat

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