IRC Driven

[00:21:56] MatCat/rizon Syndus if you can't afford more then beans how can you afford weed? :(

[00:28:05] MatCat/rizon I try not to be in situations requiring dialing 911

[00:37:35] MatCat/rizon how did you get hurt?

[00:38:51] MatCat/rizon oog

[00:38:51] MatCat/rizon oof

[00:51:45] MatCat/rizon word of the day: quaff

[00:54:37] MatCat/rizon boof some LSD

[00:55:11] MatCat/rizon 100 sheets would take a lot of boofing space

[01:27:29] MatCat/rizon fuck yeah I made a kick ass dinner, open faced roast beef with homeade gravy, corn on the cob, and mashed taters

[01:28:19] MatCat/rizon I dont understand people that buy powdered gravy or even canned gravy, its so easy and 10000x tastier to make yourself

[01:28:48] MatCat/rizon Syndus hunter thompson is one of my heros

[01:46:07] MatCat/rizon I am stuffed, what a delicious wonderful dinner

[01:46:20] MatCat/rizon !topcuck

[01:46:49] MatCat/rizon lol

[03:40:27] MatCat/rizon I went and got alcohol, I am turning into an alcoholic

[03:42:34] MatCat/rizon login: nah, normally I would drink like 2-4 times a year, I am now dranking 3 of the last 4 days lol

[03:43:10] MatCat/rizon my normal benadryl and melatonin mix isn't knocking me out, I think I am using alcohol now

[03:44:42] MatCat/rizon Syndus: I think I am going to talk to my dr about a sleep aid

[03:44:48] MatCat/rizon my dick grew an inch

[03:45:28] MatCat/rizon Syndus: lol that is an anti-psychotic

[03:45:41] MatCat/rizon not a sleep aid

[03:46:02] MatCat/rizon anti-psychotics are bad mmkay

[03:46:11] MatCat/rizon turn you into a vegitible

[03:46:21] MatCat/rizon may be good for crazy people

[04:02:05] MatCat/rizon make hookers great again

[04:03:44] MatCat/rizon prostitution should be legal

[04:06:28] MatCat/rizon its only legal in 1 state

[04:06:40] MatCat/rizon the government has no place to dictate relationships

[04:07:56] MatCat/rizon login: ironicly prostitution ISN'T legal in vegas

[04:08:34] MatCat/rizon juano: how much meth are you smoking?

[04:08:48] MatCat/rizon I dont believe you

[04:10:43] MatCat/rizon a show isn't intercourse though

[04:11:16] MatCat/rizon easy, you dont

[04:11:18] MatCat/rizon no enforcement

[04:11:23] MatCat/rizon it shouldn't be illegal

[04:11:48] MatCat/rizon who cares abou tthem

[04:12:21] MatCat/rizon prostituion being illegal isn't a cornerstone of states

[04:12:29] MatCat/rizon infact many countries it is legal

[04:13:01] MatCat/rizon who cares if they are against it, they can choose not to hook up with a hooker

[04:13:21] MatCat/rizon they dont get to dictate the world based on their subjective morals

[04:14:29] MatCat/rizon there should be no government regulation of it at all

[04:14:45] MatCat/rizon if you are an adult you should be able to legally offer such service, or partake in such a service

[04:14:48] MatCat/rizon including advertising

[04:15:28] MatCat/rizon thats fine

[04:15:33] MatCat/rizon once they are legal, they are legal

[04:15:37] MatCat/rizon they are free to make such choices

[04:15:58] MatCat/rizon thats fine as long as its not directed to children

[04:16:11] MatCat/rizon children can't be sheltered from the world, it is hte parents job to do that

[04:16:30] MatCat/rizon doesn't matter

[04:17:00] MatCat/rizon what ifs and could bes dont matter, you don't violate peoples rights for such things

[04:17:35] MatCat/rizon I dont agree with that

[04:17:41] MatCat/rizon government has no place in it

[04:18:03] MatCat/rizon thats not really true

[04:18:09] MatCat/rizon government FORCES things underground

[04:18:15] MatCat/rizon Juaha why you spamming

[04:18:19] MatCat/rizon juano(

[04:18:21] MatCat/rizon *

[04:19:07] MatCat/rizon juano no need to spam

[04:19:51] MatCat/rizon sure they can

[04:20:02] MatCat/rizon that is the ideal outcome

[04:20:11] MatCat/rizon but parents can also control what their children see to a reasonable level

[04:20:41] MatCat/rizon I am very anti-trans, I don't care what the individual does, and they are allowed to do it, but I think its a mental issue

[04:21:02] MatCat/rizon but thats besides the point here

[04:21:09] MatCat/rizon government has no place in any moral control;

[04:21:21] MatCat/rizon atleast not subjective moral issues

[04:21:32] MatCat/rizon prostitution being a very subjective moral concept

[04:21:58] MatCat/rizon they are doing that login lol

[04:22:19] MatCat/rizon and its parents fault for trusting the public school system

[04:22:26] MatCat/rizon no it wont

[04:22:38] MatCat/rizon because targetting kids wouldn't be allowed

[04:22:51] MatCat/rizon so they can't teach the kids because they wouldn't have authority to do so

[04:23:04] MatCat/rizon doesn't have to be home schooling

[04:23:12] MatCat/rizon parents have the rights to vote in people that will make their local schools better

[04:26:43] MatCat/rizon I am against all this sex crap in school

[04:26:49] MatCat/rizon sex shit has no place in school education

[04:26:53] MatCat/rizon its a parental thing to teach

[04:27:10] MatCat/rizon all should be

[04:27:23] MatCat/rizon the government has no place to do it no matter how many parents refuse

[04:27:35] MatCat/rizon then oh well

[04:27:38] MatCat/rizon their parents hwere shit

[04:27:41] MatCat/rizon thats on the parents

[04:27:45] MatCat/rizon hell no

[04:27:52] MatCat/rizon no one has the legal authority to do that

[04:27:55] MatCat/rizon nor should

[04:28:21] MatCat/rizon school shouldn't be allowed to teach it at all

[04:28:22] MatCat/rizon period

[04:28:49] MatCat/rizon Samantha: I am not talking about biological teachings, I am talking about anything to actually do with sex of any kind outside of biological function

[04:28:58] MatCat/rizon correct

[04:29:05] MatCat/rizon government has no place in it

[04:29:08] MatCat/rizon no

[04:29:13] MatCat/rizon they should not be able to

[04:29:17] MatCat/rizon because the school shouldn't be able to each it

[04:29:32] MatCat/rizon Samantha because you are a good parent

[04:29:50] MatCat/rizon login: if it involves teaching subjective morality, no neve4r

[04:29:56] MatCat/rizon school has no pleace teaching such things

[04:29:56] MatCat/rizon only parents

[04:30:26] MatCat/rizon school should be teaching very specific things, STEM, and civic workings

[04:30:33] MatCat/rizon thats really all schools should be teaching

[04:30:56] MatCat/rizon anything outside of STEM and civic processes, should be null and void for schools to teach

[04:31:06] MatCat/rizon art is gine in a general term

[04:31:16] MatCat/rizon as long as the art isn't based on subjective moral concepts

[04:31:44] MatCat/rizon because some people would say painting pics of naked sex acts is art, and try to sneak that in, but that involves subjective moral situation, so hence should not be allowed

[04:32:17] MatCat/rizon well I see stealing, murder, etc, not as a subjective moral issue, but as a human rights thing, which should be taught

[04:32:30] MatCat/rizon login: on a personal level sure, at school, no

[04:32:49] MatCat/rizon so ethics in terms of human rights is fine

[04:33:14] MatCat/rizon login: thats fine as long as there is no preference taught for them

[04:33:47] MatCat/rizon thats not true Samantha

[04:33:55] MatCat/rizon thats the parents and family and friends role

[04:33:56] MatCat/rizon not school

[04:33:58] MatCat/rizon not the state

[04:34:16] MatCat/rizon what I am talking about is specifically NOT teaching everyone the same thing, thats whats going on today

[04:34:31] MatCat/rizon the school would teach the core things, while the parents / friends teach the moral and subjective things

[04:34:44] MatCat/rizon Samantha as they should

[04:34:53] MatCat/rizon that is the parents role

[04:35:32] MatCat/rizon Samantha: thats the parents choice

[04:35:40] MatCat/rizon and children can choose to take that learning or not

[04:36:03] MatCat/rizon sure they can

[04:36:11] MatCat/rizon there where tons of things I was taught I chose to not follow

[04:36:36] MatCat/rizon I was raised in a super conservative pentacostal christian home, I am an athiest

[04:36:44] MatCat/rizon I chose not to accept the religious teachings

[04:36:54] MatCat/rizon so children very well can choose what they want to accept from what they are taught

[04:37:33] MatCat/rizon nope

[04:37:37] MatCat/rizon and that was their right

[04:37:46] MatCat/rizon when I moved out I could make my own choices

[04:38:21] MatCat/rizon as far as I am concerned your parents control your rights for you as long as you are under their care

[04:38:28] MatCat/rizon of course I made it

[04:38:34] MatCat/rizon I was raised strong

[04:38:38] MatCat/rizon even if I disagreed with some aspects

[04:38:59] MatCat/rizon I just kept my disagreements to myself until I was on my own

[04:40:03] MatCat/rizon yeah my fmaily would of never involved the state or the law on anything fucked up we did as kids

[04:40:54] MatCat/rizon I don't distrust cops, I even have cop friends, I just don't voluntarily tell them everything or involve them unless its absolutely needed, and thats not because of trust of the cops, its a general disagreement with many aspects of the law, which isn't the cops fault

[04:41:32] MatCat/rizon I find it funny when people get pissed off at cops, then go and vote for someone that makes the cops do what they hate lol

[04:42:40] MatCat/rizon logic: that isn't true at local level

[04:42:49] MatCat/rizon infact thats a major issue with US politics

[04:42:53] MatCat/rizon people are too focused on the tip

[04:42:54] MatCat/rizon TOP

[04:42:59] MatCat/rizon AND ignore the local level

[04:43:03] MatCat/rizon I want to repeal the 17th amendment

[04:43:22] MatCat/rizon yeah and thats a huge issue

[04:43:49] MatCat/rizon I have thought about running locally, because often times the republican party doesn't even run a candidate locally

[04:43:52] MatCat/rizon they just assume no one will win

[04:43:53] MatCat/rizon and dont even try

[04:44:04] MatCat/rizon and then the democrat candidate wins with like 500 votes

[04:44:05] MatCat/rizon lol

[04:44:08] MatCat/rizon its a shame

[04:44:26] MatCat/rizon I have seen votes less that that locally

[04:44:33] MatCat/rizon I remember one candidate won by 240 votes

[04:44:39] MatCat/rizon unopposed

[04:44:44] MatCat/rizon yep

[04:44:49] MatCat/rizon yep

[04:44:54] MatCat/rizon thats a major issue

[04:44:58] MatCat/rizon shouldn't be happening

[04:45:13] MatCat/rizon no

[04:45:16] MatCat/rizon its not forced outcome

[04:45:18] MatCat/rizon like china

[04:45:21] MatCat/rizon its no one gives a shit

[04:45:26] MatCat/rizon no one votes, and no one runs

[04:45:45] MatCat/rizon thats why I am saying I should run

[04:45:47] MatCat/rizon I would win lol

[04:45:58] MatCat/rizon I seriously considered it last election

[04:46:00] MatCat/rizon I might next

[04:46:09] MatCat/rizon would they though

[04:46:16] MatCat/rizon or would all the people that want to vote for someone else be like finally

[04:46:17] MatCat/rizon and vote for me

[04:46:49] MatCat/rizon because I saw a race in NJ where a normally unopposed seat finally had an opposition component, and they won 5:1

[04:47:07] MatCat/rizon because everyone was just WAITING for someone of the other party to run

[04:47:11] MatCat/rizon but no one was willing to step up and run

[04:47:26] MatCat/rizon thats not required on local races

[04:47:36] MatCat/rizon talking about township counsil / county counsil positions here

[04:47:48] MatCat/rizon its not that strict

[04:47:59] MatCat/rizon I am sure they would

[04:48:01] MatCat/rizon let them try

[04:48:08] MatCat/rizon OR they will be so blind sided

[04:48:15] MatCat/rizon because remember, run opposed for 20 years in a row

[04:48:20] MatCat/rizon they won't know how to handle a real race

[04:48:32] MatCat/rizon couple that with people that are fed up with the current party

[04:48:38] MatCat/rizon I dont think it would be that hard

[04:48:46] MatCat/rizon doesn't matter if it does or not

[04:48:50] MatCat/rizon it sends a message

[04:48:56] MatCat/rizon makes it more emboldening for others to run

[04:49:05] MatCat/rizon and those people work their way up through the system ovcer the years

[04:49:11] MatCat/rizon and eventually get to offices where it does matter

[04:49:21] MatCat/rizon small county, easy to do

[04:49:30] MatCat/rizon infact, for county counsil positions you just have to file a form

[04:49:33] MatCat/rizon there is no sig requirements

[04:49:40] MatCat/rizon no it doesnt

[04:49:44] MatCat/rizon not if its good people

[04:49:47] MatCat/rizon but thats the prob

[04:49:49] MatCat/rizon good people dont do it

[04:49:59] MatCat/rizon of course they can

[04:50:02] MatCat/rizon they just dont try

[04:50:05] MatCat/rizon they believe what you think

[04:50:08] MatCat/rizon even though its not true

[04:50:32] MatCat/rizon for a town / county counsil position, no not really

[04:50:35] MatCat/rizon its not a complicated job

[04:50:59] MatCat/rizon and not only that, but if I made it to county consil, I would vote no to pretty much every new law proposal for the county

[04:51:01] MatCat/rizon lol

[04:51:28] MatCat/rizon and not only that, but I would propose laws to repeal existing laws every chance I gotr

[04:51:44] MatCat/rizon county counsil is responsible for legislating county law

[04:52:13] MatCat/rizon it can legislate its own county laws

[04:52:27] MatCat/rizon not always

[04:52:33] MatCat/rizon and not everything is covered by state law

[04:52:46] MatCat/rizon you don't need to be a lawyer to be city counsil lol

[04:52:52] MatCat/rizon thats not really true

[04:53:13] MatCat/rizon I think you hold these elected positions in much higher reguard then they really are

[04:53:32] MatCat/rizon these local counsil positions aren't lawyers that know every law in and out, they are normal everyday people like you and me

[04:53:38] MatCat/rizon and vote based on their beliefs

[04:53:53] MatCat/rizon which is why local elections are far far more important

[04:54:09] MatCat/rizon even if the outcome of their legislation isn't a big deal, its still the stepping stone where most politicians come from

[04:54:42] MatCat/rizon your typical president or congress member didn't just become congress or presaident, they often have a history of elected positions, going all the way down to such local positions

[04:55:28] MatCat/rizon so if you pick really good people locally, and vet their performance in your town / county, then a few years later maybe you vote them into state position, then a few years after that maybe you vote them into the house, then maybe a good term or 2 later you vote them into the senate

[04:55:31] MatCat/rizon or even president

[04:55:40] MatCat/rizon if people did that, the system would work well

[04:58:30] MatCat/rizon there are no lobbyists and county level

[04:58:33] MatCat/rizon atleast not here

[04:58:40] MatCat/rizon maybe in a giant county with huge population

[04:58:50] MatCat/rizon not here lol

[04:59:03] MatCat/rizon I live in a county with 150k people that is about 1/2 the size of NJ

[04:59:15] MatCat/rizon 90% of our county is uninhabitable mountain range

[04:59:36] MatCat/rizon well since I look to repeal nearly all laws I should be a friend to them :P

[04:59:45] MatCat/rizon there is NO commercial mining in the county

[04:59:48] MatCat/rizon literally none

[05:00:14] MatCat/rizon well that and most of the land here is either federal or protected

[05:00:20] MatCat/rizon I am in the redwoods

[05:00:25] MatCat/rizon redwoods are heavily protected

[05:00:48] MatCat/rizon it actually killed the industry here in the 70s

[05:00:51] MatCat/rizon when they enacted the protections

[05:01:13] MatCat/rizon https://www.gohumco.com/368/Economic-Profile-for-Humboldt-County

[05:01:23] MatCat/rizon what are you talking about

[05:01:34] MatCat/rizon I am against the state enforced protections

[05:02:00] MatCat/rizon In 2020, Humboldt produced 5,877,389 in current-dollar total GDP*. This GDP ranked 35th in the state and accounted for 0.2 percent of the state total. In 2010, the total GDP of Humboldt was 4,723,146 and ranked 33rd in the state.

[05:02:32] MatCat/rizon I have no idea what your talknig about

[05:03:09] MatCat/rizon multitude of reasons, they are the largest trees in the world

[05:03:15] MatCat/rizon and have a very tiny range

[05:03:21] MatCat/rizon is the main reason

[05:03:28] MatCat/rizon they also take thousand years to grow to full maturity

[05:04:07] MatCat/rizon its actually illegal to cut down a redwood on your own property if its old growth

[05:04:26] MatCat/rizon you have to get a permit and its only allowed if it threatends to destroy inhabited property

[05:04:30] MatCat/rizon no

[05:04:31] MatCat/rizon I do not

[05:04:44] MatCat/rizon I think if you own it its yours

[05:04:54] MatCat/rizon the vast majority of old growth redwood is infact in state and federal land

[05:05:22] MatCat/rizon as long as it was an opt in agreement sure

[05:05:27] MatCat/rizon if you can decide not to

[05:05:29] MatCat/rizon thats a simple contract

[05:05:38] MatCat/rizon if its fORCED, then no

[05:06:03] MatCat/rizon as long as you had the option to not make that deal at all to begin with

[05:06:08] MatCat/rizon then thats fine as a contractual stipulation

[05:06:40] MatCat/rizon the cranberry mikes harder is pretty good

[05:07:35] MatCat/rizon I dont agree on a ban

[05:08:00] MatCat/rizon what does that have to do with it

[05:08:07] MatCat/rizon I look at it from property rights perpsective

[05:08:33] MatCat/rizon if you inherit the land, then any contract of that nature should have the option to either enter into it, or nullify the contract

[05:08:59] MatCat/rizon if they choose to enter the contract with the state sure

[05:09:03] MatCat/rizon but they should also be able to say no

[05:09:09] MatCat/rizon and have the property exity the contract

[05:10:03] MatCat/rizon well the law only existed since 70s so forever no

[05:10:09] MatCat/rizon and there should be no such thing as forever

[05:10:26] MatCat/rizon so what

[05:10:29] MatCat/rizon you bought it

[05:10:30] MatCat/rizon its yours

[05:10:35] MatCat/rizon to do with as you please

[05:10:40] MatCat/rizon it being older then you means nothing

[05:10:49] MatCat/rizon I disagree with the law

[05:10:53] MatCat/rizon the state should have no power over it

[05:11:28] MatCat/rizon If you want to share it buy a huge chunk of land and make it a sanctuary

[05:11:33] MatCat/rizon or go enjoy the many state and federal lands

[05:11:46] MatCat/rizon as I said 90% of old growth redwood is inract on state or federal land

[05:12:00] MatCat/rizon the seller hasd no control over that once they dont own it anymore

[05:12:09] MatCat/rizon they only have control of that WHILE they own it

[05:12:42] MatCat/rizon IF the seller wants control of it, then they shouldn't be selling ity

[05:13:34] MatCat/rizon I am saying no ban should exist period

[05:13:37] MatCat/rizon you keep flip flopping

[05:13:40] MatCat/rizon between a 'ban' and a 'contract'

[05:13:43] MatCat/rizon they aren't the same thing

[05:13:52] MatCat/rizon one is a hypothetical concept that doesn't exist

[05:13:59] MatCat/rizon the other is what it is now, that I do not agree with

[05:14:08] MatCat/rizon who cares

[05:14:26] MatCat/rizon thats not the point

[05:14:43] MatCat/rizon the point is that I don't believe that the state should ahve any say over personal propertry

[05:14:48] MatCat/rizon its a simple libertarian view

[05:15:02] MatCat/rizon and irrelevent to reality when the state curently doesn't adhear to laws I think are constitutional

[05:15:34] MatCat/rizon I think the owner should ahve full mining rights, again, not how it is, but what I think it should be

[05:15:43] MatCat/rizon there are a lot of laws in place I disagree with

[05:15:53] MatCat/rizon hence why if I ever did get elected I would work to repeal as many as possible

[05:18:05] MatCat/rizon login: I wish to enrich everyone

[05:18:09] MatCat/rizon its not selective

[05:18:24] MatCat/rizon its a simple adherence to principle of absolute rights

[05:18:30] MatCat/rizon I am seriously considering it

[05:19:02] MatCat/rizon that is completely unamerican tyinking

[05:19:14] MatCat/rizon rights are yours as a function of the fact that you exist

[05:19:25] MatCat/rizon chistians would say rights are given to you by god, but I am athiest, but same concept

[05:19:45] MatCat/rizon government atleast in the USA is only suppsoed to acnoweldge those fundamental rights, not grant them

[05:19:49] MatCat/rizon but acknowledge them

[05:19:54] MatCat/rizon I disagree

[05:20:09] MatCat/rizon as long as absolute rights do not infringe on someone elses rights, that is the crityeria I follow

[05:20:19] MatCat/rizon hence you cannot steal from someone, as that violates their property rights

[05:20:29] MatCat/rizon You cannot murder, as that violates their right to life

[05:20:30] MatCat/rizon etc

[05:20:34] MatCat/rizon that is the only law I accept

[05:20:40] MatCat/rizon laws that affirm your rights

[05:20:46] MatCat/rizon and punish those that violate them

[05:20:52] MatCat/rizon anything outside of that, is no go

[05:21:36] MatCat/rizon my concept is only for humans

[05:21:59] MatCat/rizon that keeps it simple

[05:22:22] MatCat/rizon if its punishment for violating someone elses right, thats fine

[05:22:32] MatCat/rizon that is the cost of violating someone elses right

[05:23:04] MatCat/rizon not neccessairly

[05:23:22] MatCat/rizon if you come on my property and try to violate my rates, and I shoot you and you die, then the government did nothing to punish

[05:23:29] MatCat/rizon I handled it, and you got your consequence

[05:23:38] MatCat/rizon nope

[05:23:48] MatCat/rizon self defense is law in pretty much every state

[05:24:07] MatCat/rizon hell california is even a stand your ground state

[05:24:51] MatCat/rizon if someone is tresspassing, and I have no tresspassing signs up (which I due) then yes it is, if I catch you on my land I yell at you to leave, if you refuse then I can use force to make you leave

[05:25:15] MatCat/rizon taking you in for questioning is fine

[05:25:23] MatCat/rizon you use appropriate force

[05:25:28] MatCat/rizon which is legal

[05:26:14] MatCat/rizon someone invading your land and refusing to leave if told isn't a weary traveller lol

[05:26:28] MatCat/rizon also that is a christian concept

[05:26:36] MatCat/rizon my land is my land

[05:26:38] MatCat/rizon I own it

[05:26:48] MatCat/rizon thats not how US land laws work

[05:27:09] MatCat/rizon I live in the US, so no

[05:27:20] MatCat/rizon if you own land you own in

[05:27:33] MatCat/rizon Infact I am against how modern land ownership is handled in the usa

[05:27:54] MatCat/rizon I think Us land ownership should go back to alidotal deeds

[05:28:04] MatCat/rizon sorry bud but I am not in that commie mindset

[05:28:07] MatCat/rizon you own what you own

[05:28:13] MatCat/rizon and any attempt to take it can be met with force

[05:28:24] MatCat/rizon actually there are things I cna do about it

[05:28:30] MatCat/rizon hence why I have a right to use force to protect my land

[05:28:42] MatCat/rizon I have the weapons to stop that

[05:28:46] MatCat/rizon legally

[05:28:55] MatCat/rizon lol your getting outside of the conversation mrinfinity

[05:29:02] MatCat/rizon and trying to derail it

[05:29:12] MatCat/rizon the topic is about land rights, not silly what ifs

[05:29:33] MatCat/rizon login: you miss my point this entire time, I am against government law when it violates human rights

[05:29:40] MatCat/rizon can't make that more clear

[05:29:43] MatCat/rizon I am a rights absoluteist

[05:29:45] MatCat/rizon a true libertarian

[05:30:45] MatCat/rizon login that isn't possible

[05:30:55] MatCat/rizon you cannot buy land without a deed

[05:31:21] MatCat/rizon and deed transfers are recorded through the county, so its literally impossible to buy stolen land

[05:31:46] MatCat/rizon login: in my state most land goes back to homesteading days

[05:31:56] MatCat/rizon where the state owned the land and transfered ownership

[05:33:47] MatCat/rizon login: perhaps, but everyone involved is long dead, so its irrelevent

[05:33:59] MatCat/rizon at the end of the day your land is only as secure as your ability to defend it

[05:35:08] MatCat/rizon if the pepople that occupied the land got killed or ran off, then those that ran them off have taken control, is that cool? no but thats how it works, and in the case here its the government, now we are 200 years later and its moot, because jurisprudence says now the state and hence the citrizens of the state have the rights acceess to the land, if the state should fail then guess who

[05:35:08] MatCat/rizon its on? YOU the owner of that land to protect it and ensure you keep ownership

[05:35:20] MatCat/rizon I agbree

[05:35:27] MatCat/rizon thats exactly true

[05:35:34] MatCat/rizon and why I with land in USA SHOULD be alidotal

[05:35:47] MatCat/rizon because you ultimately are respoinsible to protect your lamnd

[05:35:51] MatCat/rizon thats how it should be

[05:36:11] MatCat/rizon no

[05:36:17] MatCat/rizon not ideally

[05:36:23] MatCat/rizon perhaps realistically

[05:36:30] MatCat/rizon but the US government is supposed to proect peoples rights

[05:36:43] MatCat/rizon so the government should be on the land owners side as the constitution is written

[05:36:49] MatCat/rizon they do work

[05:36:54] MatCat/rizon if the government respects peoples rights

[05:36:58] MatCat/rizon which it doesn't at current

[05:37:18] MatCat/rizon the way the US constitution is written its supposed to work at every level

[05:37:22] MatCat/rizon within the country and state

[05:37:32] MatCat/rizon clearly how it is today is not how its meant to be

[05:38:01] MatCat/rizon the constitution isn't bent, only how people decide to interpite it

[05:38:07] MatCat/rizon I agree

[05:38:25] MatCat/rizon I 100% agree that the founding fathers would tell us the system today is what they warned us about

[05:38:47] MatCat/rizon I dont think so

[05:38:52] MatCat/rizon I have actually read the federalist papers

[05:39:11] MatCat/rizon are you American?

[05:39:22] MatCat/rizon if your not american, I dont see any reason why you would

[05:39:35] MatCat/rizon if you are American, you are greatly at a disadvantage by not having read them

[05:39:53] MatCat/rizon do you know what the federalist papers are?

[05:40:15] MatCat/rizon they are letters that the founding fathers wrote to eachother before the consitution, that made up the bulk of corrispondence in discussing what America would be

[05:40:38] MatCat/rizon it really shows their mindsets and views on what they chose

[05:40:38] MatCat/rizon and why

[05:41:06] MatCat/rizon its why its bs when people today will tell you we have no idea what they meant in writing what they did, its BS, there are fuck tons of corrispodnence by them saying exactly why

[05:41:36] MatCat/rizon there are plenty of opposing views in there too

[05:42:04] MatCat/rizon nah because that can get corrected by the courts

[05:42:04] MatCat/rizon and is

[05:42:09] MatCat/rizon gun rights is a perfect example

[05:42:57] MatCat/rizon government tried HARD to make laws violating gun rights, they even stuck for a while, but the courtd are eviserating those laws, even with anti-gun adminitration the supreme court is totally destroying gun laws that go against the constitution

[05:43:26] MatCat/rizon and those bad laws where made under re-interupreted views of the 2nd amendment

[05:43:35] MatCat/rizon and the courts are correcting it

[05:43:44] MatCat/rizon lower courts yers

[05:43:47] MatCat/rizon but not the saupreme court

[05:43:54] MatCat/rizon which ultimately dicates what lower courts must do

[05:44:11] MatCat/rizon the bruen decision was a massive gun rights and 2nd amendment originalist victory

[05:44:28] MatCat/rizon that is tearing down the bad interpretation of the lower courts

[05:44:35] MatCat/rizon no

[05:44:55] MatCat/rizon yes

[05:46:35] MatCat/rizon A well regulated Militia (the constitution specifies that the militia is ANY American citizen that has not denounced their ccitizenship between the ages of 18 and 45, also well regulated based on old englush AND federalist papers would better translate in modern english to well prepared), being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people (notice it says the right

[05:46:35] MatCat/rizon of the people, the military is a seperate thing that the constitution addresses that is seperate from the people and already has rights for armorment, so 2nd amendment is very explicit in its about the people) to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

[05:47:12] MatCat/rizon false

[05:47:14] MatCat/rizon I told you what it was

[05:47:26] MatCat/rizon its ALL US CITIZENS between the age of 18 and 45, that have not denounces citizenship

[05:47:31] MatCat/rizon that is how the constitution describes militia

[05:47:44] MatCat/rizon the MILITARY is described seperately

[05:47:47] MatCat/rizon false

[05:47:51] MatCat/rizon well regulated means well prepared

[05:48:04] MatCat/rizon as in you own a gun, and ammo, and gun powder, and are prepared to use it

[05:48:06] MatCat/rizon no

[05:48:09] MatCat/rizon I just explained it

[05:48:13] MatCat/rizon it means prepared

[05:48:15] MatCat/rizon not trained

[05:48:17] MatCat/rizon prepared

[05:48:25] MatCat/rizon you have to understand old english

[05:48:31] MatCat/rizon well regulated doesn't mean what you think it does today

[05:48:52] MatCat/rizon no it means that you own a gun, and have the needed stuff to operate it

[05:49:11] MatCat/rizon the only disqualifying factor is that you have not denounced your vitizenship

[05:49:46] MatCat/rizon no of course not

[05:49:52] MatCat/rizon but one could argue, they could

[05:49:57] MatCat/rizon BUT

[05:50:03] MatCat/rizon it says the tight of the people

[05:50:12] MatCat/rizon the militia isn't a requirement, its just a tool

[05:50:34] MatCat/rizon the people have a right to keep and bear arms, for the purpose that they are the militia, they don't have to be miliia

[05:50:47] MatCat/rizon so the right to keep and bear isn't factored by are you militia

[05:51:00] MatCat/rizon the militia is just a reasoning for why the people have a right to keep and bear arms

[05:51:02] MatCat/rizon do you understand

[05:52:16] MatCat/rizon I am not against some traihning

[05:52:34] MatCat/rizon infact, I think gun safety and knowedlge should be mandatory in schooling

[05:52:58] MatCat/rizon I think teaching children gun safety, and basic operation is critical to having a safer society with guns

[05:53:06] MatCat/rizon nah

[05:53:08] MatCat/rizon because guns are a right

[05:53:12] MatCat/rizon so you must understand them

[05:53:26] MatCat/rizon it is but the government has no place determining the moral view on it

[05:53:29] MatCat/rizon so thats the parents job

[05:53:38] MatCat/rizon with guns there is objective safety and understanding

[05:53:46] MatCat/rizon just as I think schools should teach reproductive science

[05:53:54] MatCat/rizon but they shouldn't teach anything about sex other then that

[05:54:02] MatCat/rizon sexual orientation, for example

[05:54:20] MatCat/rizon scchools should teach biologically accurate reproductive science

[05:54:40] MatCat/rizon that isn't what sex education is n America

[05:54:50] MatCat/rizon part of modern school concept of sex education includes sexual orientation

[05:55:21] MatCat/rizon I agree, the harm is when you teach subjective ideas

[05:55:28] MatCat/rizon such as lesbianism, trannyism, etc

[05:55:38] MatCat/rizon because those aren't biological science

[05:55:51] MatCat/rizon they exist, but they aren't science

[05:56:01] MatCat/rizon so school has no place involved in it

[05:56:19] MatCat/rizon exactly, and that should be parents realm

[05:56:27] MatCat/rizon no

[05:56:31] MatCat/rizon civics is how the government works

[05:56:37] MatCat/rizon and thats all it should be

[05:56:59] MatCat/rizon if you aren't teaching about sex at all you can't discriminate

[05:57:05] MatCat/rizon because you aren't teaching anything about it

[05:57:09] MatCat/rizon other then biological science

[05:57:22] MatCat/rizon which is a male copulating to a female for the purpose of making babies

[05:57:38] MatCat/rizon I disagree

[05:57:42] MatCat/rizon thats irrelevent

[05:58:00] MatCat/rizon not really

[05:58:15] MatCat/rizon because if you teach rights properly, its blind to discrimiating factors

[05:58:25] MatCat/rizon rights are equal to all people

[05:58:38] MatCat/rizon its blind to subjective morality (should be, not what it is)

[05:58:54] MatCat/rizon so if its rights its rights and applies to all people

[05:58:59] MatCat/rizon so dscrimination is irrelevnet

[05:59:10] MatCat/rizon I.E. stealing from someone is wrong

[05:59:14] MatCat/rizon doesn't matter who is stolen from

[05:59:17] MatCat/rizon or what they look like

[05:59:21] MatCat/rizon or what race they identify as

[05:59:43] MatCat/rizon mo you dont

[05:59:49] MatCat/rizon because its true to all people

[05:59:53] MatCat/rizon race is irrelevent

[06:00:02] MatCat/rizon exactly

[06:00:10] MatCat/rizon no one was mentioning race

[06:00:11] MatCat/rizon but you

[06:00:30] MatCat/rizon thats parents jo

[06:00:33] MatCat/rizon job

[06:00:41] MatCat/rizon what should be is subjective

[06:00:59] MatCat/rizon the only objective should bes are when things are violating human rights

[06:01:14] MatCat/rizon well that isn't a should be thats enshrined in constitutional right

[06:01:34] MatCat/rizon its your natural right that the state recognized to protect

[06:01:55] MatCat/rizon thats the same thing

[06:48:56] MatCat/rizon Ahsoka lol https://s201.erome.com/303/Buvs7Jo4/jk1sbGle.jpeg?v=1605841006

[06:52:04] MatCat/rizon lol login, didn't know you where a star wars fan

[06:52:38] MatCat/rizon the caharacter is

[06:52:49] MatCat/rizon that ios Ahsoka

[06:53:03] MatCat/rizon the character Ahsoka

[06:53:10] MatCat/rizon of which Ahsoka in this chan is named after

[06:53:26] MatCat/rizon yep

[06:53:38] MatCat/rizon I have a snake named Ahsoka too

[06:54:16] MatCat/rizon my Ahsoka https://www.mcfile.in/f/03cf9f8f645042fe850d/?raw=1

[06:54:34] MatCat/rizon is is a cute snek

[06:54:42] MatCat/rizon trhanks

[06:55:01] MatCat/rizon isn't she cute

[06:55:11] MatCat/rizon lol

[06:55:17] MatCat/rizon I take my snake photography more seriously

[06:55:34] MatCat/rizon you want to see other high quality snek pics

[06:55:55] MatCat/rizon login what about this one https://www.mcfile.in/f/a7259e1dd7b3404885a0/?raw=1

[06:55:58] MatCat/rizon same snake btw

[06:56:26] MatCat/rizon no

[06:56:33] MatCat/rizon just mild editing in lightroom

[06:56:35] MatCat/rizon of the raw

[06:56:44] MatCat/rizon yes

[06:57:21] MatCat/rizon https://www.mcfile.in/f/6f608ce5a245461f825e/?raw=1

[06:57:32] MatCat/rizon yeah that photo would of been better if I focus stacked

[06:57:36] MatCat/rizon but you can't be perfect

[06:57:49] MatCat/rizon and these are all freehanded shots

[06:57:57] MatCat/rizon so hard to focus stack holding camera by hand

[06:58:51] MatCat/rizon different snake https://www.mcfile.in/f/83211fa9fb5d4447922f/?raw=1

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