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Thursday, June 8, 2023
[04:08:16] login !bang
[04:08:21] login !reload
[04:08:27] login !bang
[04:08:32] login !reload
[04:08:35] login !bang
[04:08:40] login !reload
[04:08:44] login !bang
[04:08:49] login !bang
[04:08:53] login !bang
[04:09:06] login what a meme gun i've got
[04:11:38] login that would get you arrested in london at least
[04:12:48] login but, if cars knew bicycles could have these, they'd be more respectful of the cyclist's space
[04:13:20] login it evens the inherent imbalance in power between the car and bicycle on the road
[05:28:43] login Nimko: if you think facebook is extreme, look at LinkedIn
[06:13:30] login Nimko: i'm login; tr is just the TechNet relay
[06:13:55] login it's best to keep your irc identity and real-life identity accounts separate, and not to mix them
[06:14:10] login however, anyone with IP logs can associate those if you use the same device
[06:15:16] login each website, if they keep a log of who's accessed them, has that information for their own website's visitors
[06:15:32] login another way would be through DNS
[06:16:26] login your ISP would know, but so would the DNS server your computer uses to translate the domain name to the website's ip address
[06:16:52] login most VPN apps would also route your DNS queries through the vpn
[06:17:30] login and if you don't use DNS over HTTPS or DNS over TLS, then your DNS queries would be in plaintext
[06:17:58] login i.e., any router on the path between your computer and the DNS server will be able to associate your IP address with the website you're trying to visit
[06:18:34] login yeah, using encryption
[06:19:20] login in that case, even the contents of the website would be transmitted over plaintext
[06:20:36] login yes, the hoster of the website can see your IP address and what you're doing on the site (if they track it), Nimko
[06:21:00] login The danger is that there are governments that are definitely tracking DNS queries and IP addresses
[06:21:31] login And others who want to doxx you could do it too
[06:22:13] login With your ip address, they could find a way to get through your firewall too, if they're sophisticated enough or if you've allowed inbound connections (which is usually not the case except if you're running a server at home)
[06:23:05] login yeah
[06:23:15] login well, not 'see', but know
[06:23:34] login they could, if they had a device in between, even modify the content of the website and you wouldn't know
[06:23:58] login correct ^
[06:24:17] login but the premise was 'happened to not be secured with HTTPS'
[06:25:05] login Yes, you should be provably be sleeping
[06:25:21] login But they'd have to, if not modifying what was sent to you, know what the website was sending back and reverse-engineer that
[06:26:00] login but the biggest risk is something on your own computer spying on you
[06:26:27] login it should say tr_ <+login> my actual message
[06:27:02] login But yes, if you have an open port on your computer, they could send information to it from the outside
[06:27:08] login if they had your ip address
[06:27:29] login and if the software was buggy, could gain the ability to do whatever that software is allowed to do on your computer
[06:27:40] login Zoom got in trouble for this
[06:27:50] login Peorth: lol
[06:28:05] login that IP address is in the reserved range for local area networks
[06:28:26] login Not even Zoom bombing
[06:29:02] login But that Zoom was creating a server during installation, and that the server had a bug that allowed outsiders to, by crafting the right information to send to your ip address at Zoom's port, do everything Zoom could do on your computer
[06:29:18] login ^ i wouldn't be able to tell
[06:29:37] login yes
[06:30:32] login 127.0.0.1 is the loopback address, which is just used to refer to oneself without leaving the local area network
[06:31:05] login Isn't it interesting that the original advice on the internet was, don't use your real name
[06:31:15] login And then the advice is, don't use an email address that is *not* your real name
[06:31:38] login And now many people put all their real information and face and photos on the internet
[06:31:50] login Especially if they want to gain employment
[06:32:16] login You could get a Pi hole, which could sit in between your ISP's router and all your other connections
[06:32:36] login A raspberry pi computer that acts as a firewall
[06:33:15] login Yes, the router itself also has a firewall
[06:33:19] login But so does your computer
[06:33:34] login And they're software
[06:33:57] login Yes
[06:34:19] login Even your phone has a firewall
[06:34:53] login But it wouldn't help much, especially if you already block inbound connections (which most firewalls do)
[06:35:11] login is it broadcasting it?
[06:36:16] login it's like multiple layers of swiss cheese
[06:41:36] login Getting past your router's firewall is what all websites do when they send information to you
[06:42:09] login One can only send packets through your router's firewall
[06:42:49] login Gaining remote access past your router's firewall would be something that would be the end all be all
[06:48:33] login yes
[06:48:50] login but many isp routers don't allow you to 'bridge' the router with the pi-hole
[06:49:33] login and there would be a question of how to make wifi go through the pi-hole
[06:53:46] login but many ISPs won't let you configure another router that way
[06:58:57] login yes, that makes it harder
[06:59:22] login you would have to find out how to make the ISP think your router is their router
[07:00:23] login You'd have to find out about the TR-069 protocol
[07:11:54] login yes, they try to lock it down because sometimes botnets are able to find insecure routers (how often does your router update its firmware?) and make them a part of their botnet
[07:14:02] login and the physical installation would be to instal the ONT
[07:14:19] login optical network terminal
[07:14:38] login i.e., where the fibre optics end and electrical connection begins
[07:15:11] login It's not even for censorship, which they are not allowed to do, but for fair use reasons
[07:24:46] login Came across a good quote: "An adventure is an inconvenience rightly considered and an inconvenience is an adventure wrongly considered."
[08:25:43] login The queen of England's poop could have fetched some money at Christie's
[09:57:55] login once you get our help, will you be using the bot for spam, mozambique?
[09:58:29] login how does one learn new things when one does not know them? reading the IRC specifications? Reading the bot's source code?
[10:15:42] login Hello Frogorg
[10:16:01] login but i can't understand it
[10:36:53] login Here's a draft article on military procurement in the US: https://drafts.interfluidity.com/2023/06/04/quietly-expensive-desperation/index.html
[10:37:58] login drive in your open-source car to the open-source market... oops, those are not open source
[10:38:45] login Would a totally open-source country be good? No secrets at all
[10:39:08] login Who is Linux's proprietor?
[10:41:08] login Who decides what gets mainlined into the linux kernel?
[10:42:14] login well then, a linux distro = a distribution with the kernel Linux?
[10:43:12] login They don't know any better
[10:43:25] login GNU/Linux doesn't have systemd
[10:43:29] login s/$/?
[10:44:04] login so you use initd?
[10:45:02] login Unfortunately, where software meets hardware, things become proprietary
[10:45:04] login !bang
[10:45:17] login thank you, MAGIC
[10:45:56] login intel wifi for example
[10:45:58] login s/$/?
[10:46:23] login and what about the trackpad etc.
[10:46:34] login in a laptop form factor?
[10:46:52] login and does it do palm rejection?
[10:47:22] login that's the problem i get when booting from linux
[10:47:33] login from Ubuntu*
[10:47:46] login lots of phantom taps
[10:48:06] login Yeah, that could work
[10:48:18] login But should not be necessary
[10:49:21] login Or learn how the Synaptics driver works and add trackpad rejection to it
[10:49:26] login *palm
[10:49:42] login That is the best thing about free software: one can fix it oneself
[10:50:07] login Software provides near infinite leverage
[10:50:12] login The only barrier is time
[10:50:26] login the cost of one's time, as measured by their maintenance cost
[10:50:53] login e.g., how much makeup do you need per week, food, grooming, shelter, clothing, electricity, water etc.
[10:51:02] login !bang
[10:51:09] login !reload
[10:51:42] login on my current OS, palms are rejected but I can still move the cursor with one hand while typing with the other simultaneously
[10:52:16] login i don't want to disable the touchpad, jmjl (i am ~login btw)
[10:52:32] login i just want it to "work" well
[10:52:38] login yeah, it might just be a skill issue
[10:52:59] login you're surprised?
[10:53:09] login yeah, that's cool jmjl
[10:53:29] login not much annoying?
[10:53:54] login Here's another thing I've tried: using the palm to move the mouse
[10:54:04] login it just doesn't move the mouse at all on my current OS
[10:54:19] login but using that Synaptics driver, it definitely would have
[12:21:39] login Another highly biased article, but worth reading things from those with the opposite bias: https://medium.com/@slkanthan2030/secrets-of-chinas-economic-growth-cc8b7ac10f6e
[12:26:32] login The June 4th incident (tank man) happened in 1989
[12:27:48] login mao zedong had died only 2 years before 1978
[12:34:30] login > Similarly, China is poised to surpass Germany this year as the world’s second largest exporter of cars. -- this is due to Elon Musk
[12:45:32] login Kowal: very
[12:46:38] login the same article was posted by the same author on substack
[12:46:51] login and there is a chart copied from The Economist with no attribution
[12:47:23] login a map showing the countries coloured by their largest trade partner
[12:47:33] login in 2000 vs the present
[12:48:37] login The problem with them is hierarchy - the higher-ups will take credit their reports' innovation
[13:44:14] login It's because the transmission of knowledge from one generation to the next is suboptimal
[13:47:35] login It's actually quite hard to run even a McDonald's successfully
[13:48:06] login you can't control the recipe or anything... the only thing you can control is location, and even there, the franchisee has to pay rent to the McDonald's Corporation
[13:48:18] login and make all suitable employment decisions
[14:09:13] login irish666: oh no
[14:09:23] login that was poor on their part
[14:11:13] login They say healthcare is a calling
[14:11:38] login And that doctors want you to heal well enough to never come back
[14:12:58] login Do they teach about how to prescribe it at school?
[14:15:54] login Their licensure might be affected if they misprescribe
[14:17:22] login So they're taking a political view on it
[14:19:41] login The doctor can tell if the prescription is bogus or legitimate, can't they? From patient history
[14:20:06] login Are they supporting prohibition without actually wanting to prohibit it?
[14:21:03] login !bang
[14:21:12] login Codeine is much worse
[14:21:39] login System is broken if they don't go through the board for codeine beyond a certain minimum
[14:21:47] login or outside of emergency
[14:22:22] login So many horror stories with morphine
[14:22:43] login ^ yeah
[14:23:11] login ^ True
[14:23:22] login But the chronic back pain one should go through a board
[14:23:37] login outpatient usage of codeine and morphine should go through a board
[14:24:46] login Are the doctors sophisticated enough to mask the numbers well?
[14:25:07] login If it happens at a systematic level, it should show up in the statistics
[14:25:23] login But the lobbying is too powerful
[14:25:39] login to make the regulator look at and question it
[14:26:53] login I thought it was just disallowed
[14:27:32] login They were incentivised to not prescribe cannabis by the pharmacy?
[14:28:21] login The whole enterprise seems to have the effect of reducing trust in the medical prescription system
[14:29:26] login Why doesn't it get reviewed when it has such a reputation
[14:29:57] login So it was psychosis?
[14:30:07] login caused by tramadol?
[14:30:40] login So max 2?
[14:31:05] login I hear some good doctors ask their patients about the prescription after a couple of weeks
[14:31:31] login And gain an on-the-ground understanding of how often it works
[14:32:03] login seizures, hallucinations, why even keep it in the market?
[14:32:30] login Once the pharma company has put billions into commercialisation, there is such a strong need for it to work
[14:33:06] login Why is there no feedback review system like there was for vaccine side-effects?
[14:34:01] login Can it still be prescribed if one is suffering from those? It shouldn't be
[14:34:11] login I used to get migranes too
[14:34:18] login They called it 'textbook' migrane
[14:34:32] login Mine was fixed too, i don't know if it has to do with food or something else
[14:34:57] login It didn't take a week for it to go, maybe a couple of days
[14:35:31] login I used to just press my head and use balm
[14:35:35] login the one that stings
[14:35:58] login Does it show up on those?
[14:36:36] login Hmm, I don't know if i had those
[14:36:53] login It could be blood clots, mine used to modulate in pain with my heart beat
[14:37:07] login If I held my breath, it would subside
[14:37:19] login ^ but by heart was still beating, wasn't it?
[14:37:51] login I should have checked that, never checked blood pressure during the migraine
[14:38:08] login They made a bad assumption - they should have asked
[14:38:46] login differential diagnosis, isn't it?
[14:39:13] login Maybe the headache is actually a microstroke, who knows
[14:44:45] login Pretty difficult way to live i imagine
[17:50:54] login I remember the days of dialup when being always online was just not affordable
[17:51:07] login turn on internet, do your internet work, turn off internet - that's how it was
[17:54:00] login !bang
[17:55:07] login How much climate change will these forest fires cause? That's a LOT of carbon turning into CO2 and other stuff
[18:01:23] login It's terrible that fires in Canada are raging so much that even northern US air quality is so deeply affected
[18:04:06] login Does the wind flow that way?
[18:04:39] login There is a pattern to it, depending on the latitude (due to the sun) + the earth's rotation
[18:04:52] login but those are high up in the air i think
[18:05:42] login If the fire is hot in Canada, then air should be moving from around the area into the fire
[18:11:57] login lol, implying Mikoolo?
[18:12:30] login lol, implying (Mikoolo)?
[18:12:52] login lol Mikoolo, implying?
[18:13:22] login lol... implying?
[18:13:59] login lol, implying?
[18:14:20] login Yes, English.
[18:15:06] login It's the only language I know well enough, so I might also just be learning to communicate better.
[18:16:53] login I did not imagine Pawn Stars would know how to value Nintendo games
[18:17:02] login surprising
[18:21:10] login You could join TechNet and find out
[18:21:35] login tbh, wouldn't anyone be happy to have a boyfriend like ComputerTech? Young, carefree and smooth?
[18:23:17] login He's in a business family, being nice opens doors
[18:23:22] login especially to those that others aren't nice to
[18:23:35] login Oh yeah, forgot about that
[18:23:41] login he's tres mignon
[18:24:29] login I would be wary of crossing him, or making him angry - would be hard to tell
[18:24:51] login the kinder he is, the more reserved one must be with him
[18:25:08] login there is so little information on what his boundaries are
[18:25:29] login he won't even drop hints on his boundaries in conversation
[18:26:13] login !bang
[18:26:33] login oh hey, you bought liability insurance
[18:26:38] login !rearm herald
[18:26:46] login ^ doesn't work over tr unfortunately
[18:36:41] login Mikoolo: now vietnamese tell chrome there is a security bug in their software and get a payout
[18:39:52] login north korean special forces are more impressive
[18:52:27] login make saving a hobby
[19:07:51] login alpine linux
[19:08:02] login no key?
[19:08:04] login !bang
[19:08:46] login how is the spanish nje?
[19:09:40] login is it not like nokia?
[19:09:45] login but like news?
[19:10:53] login whole family or alone?
[19:11:57] login mum and two sons sounds good
[19:12:38] login toma toes
[19:13:07] login deadly: only i got your humour
[19:14:13] login in europe<--
[19:14:22] login it would be mao if - in the world
[19:15:49] login why is germany so wealthy?
[19:16:22] login belarus
[19:16:41] login hungary?
[19:17:07] login turkey?
[19:18:02] login which eastern european country is rich in weapons, tanks and artillery? moldova?
[19:36:48] login but his mum is with him
[19:37:08] login no way is he going to a polish brothel or anything like that
[19:39:09] login and leave their mum alone? is it even worth that?
[19:39:53] login someone has to look after the business after all
[19:40:51] login how good is the GBP PLN exchange rate, i imagine...
[19:41:15] login Poland is a conservative Christian society, is it not?
[19:41:47] login And that's where the most notorious camp was too
[19:42:06] login heineken?
[19:42:16] login too woke?
[19:42:46] login which german beer brand has not been bought by InBev?
[19:43:12] login These are good examples
[19:43:19] login I mean that genuinely
[19:44:08] login Do they try tweaking it?
[19:44:38] login Tweaking the brewing while keeping the same brand seems like a recipe for disaster
[19:45:22] login is it Turkish for 'rum'?
[19:45:31] login ooh
[20:07:27] login PapaFrog: you have one drink, they don't call you a teetotaler
[20:08:35] login enjoying life, Chiester?
[20:09:12] login you're allowed to drink at those? i thought you couldn't
[20:09:50] login oh, so there's no 'don't dress 18+ unnecessarily' rule?
[20:10:25] login full latex is alright though
[20:11:17] login have fun Chiester, don't go overboard lol
[20:14:31] login + = voiced
[20:14:40] login <login> = nickname
[20:15:06] login Who else used it?
[20:15:25] login Yeah, it was one other person
[20:57:39] login nice link, Frogorg
[21:04:05] login how far do you need to get back?
[21:04:18] login you're recording YT videos of yourself getting back to calculus?
[21:04:28] login multivariable or single variable?
[21:04:45] login vector calculus can be difficult, once you get there
[21:05:04] login You have to start with limits
[21:05:07] login and continuity
[21:05:20] login You're a high-school teacher?
[21:05:38] login Are you going back to it? Teaching?
[21:05:51] login Are you alright with trigonometry?
[21:06:39] login for e.g., i forgot that the derivative of tan(x) was sec^2(x) (although it can be derived easily)
[21:07:08] login 3b1b does it well though
[21:07:36] login and PBS Infinite Series was doing math
[21:07:46] login DSP using the z-transform?
[21:07:54] login maybe he'll cover it eventually
[21:07:59] login he's getting pretty close to it
[21:08:14] login How LTE works could be a very big video series
[21:08:40] login Esjay: how do you find 3b1b?
[21:09:26] login The thing that really amazed me was how the uncertainty principle was just mathematically expressed as that only the fourier transform of an infinite sinusoid can be a single frequency
[21:10:01] login i.e., if the sinusoid is of a certain length of time, it cannot have just a single frequency
[21:10:24] login and how that was equivalent to position-momentum uncertainty
[21:11:21] login A full explanation of how something on your phone works from photon emitted (result) to touch input
[21:11:33] login that would take up a 50+ hour series if you had to explain every component
[21:11:39] login LTE would be a subseries of that
[21:12:27] login TIL what turbinates are
[21:13:14] login !bang
[21:13:17] login !relaod
[21:13:19] login !reload
[21:13:21] login !bang
[21:13:27] login thank you, Dento
[21:13:45] login sorry to hear that wof
[21:14:23] login Yeah, they were 'brave' to remove the Save button
[21:14:31] login even made a LinkedIn Learning series on it
[21:14:57] login wof: check if there is a backup excel file
[21:15:19] login I'd be surprised if Box can do well without integrating with MS Office itself
[21:15:51] login Saving it and doing it again will yield a better result, because of the time crunch
[21:15:58] login save as xlsv first
[21:16:14] login tbh Excel should warn you if your colours are not getting saved... big oversight on their part
[21:16:41] login Maybe the temporary save file (for recovery) is still there with all the colours
[21:17:51] login Frogorg: do you look forward to the time when AI can create that video for you, in an editable format, just from your prompt about the idea?
[21:18:01] login It won't come soon
[21:18:22] login i assume no non-encrypted backups, then?
[21:18:54] login That would have been quite some work
[21:19:10] login If you also had to set up the on-prem hashicorp vault
[21:19:57] login So their passwords are in an on-prem hashicorp vault now?
[21:20:42] login so it's still on the internet
[21:21:13] login and how do they store their aws credentials, i wonder
[21:21:20] login ;) lol
[21:21:36] login you are joking obviously
[21:21:57] login 2fa using sms or phone app?
[21:22:06] login or physical totp?
[21:22:38] login that is cool
[21:23:45] login i'm surprised nobody at microsoft has ever had this excel colour unsaved thing happen to them
[21:25:07] login The right idea would have been to create a new column for it
[21:26:00] login didn't know google drive supported rclone
[21:26:03] login !bang
[21:26:06] login !reload
[21:27:01] login but have a hook to check if passwords are being saved before anything gets uploaded to a github server?
[21:28:00] login github
[21:28:10] login you can still use a login, but you have to make an app password for it
[21:29:19] login it's not that dumb, but key management is less ideal
[21:29:30] login it's not like everybody uses yubikeys or anything like that
[21:29:45] login and per-device keys that don't expire = a different kind of pain
[22:21:41] login at least she went to bed relatively on time
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