IRC Driven

[00:21:36] Neo_Nemesis/rizon lmao

[00:33:05] Neo_Nemesis/rizon well i figured out my issue

[00:33:20] Neo_Nemesis/rizon I did everything in a fucked order and it messed up the installation

[00:40:34] Neo_Nemesis/rizon take off your pants and jacket

[00:41:07] Neo_Nemesis/rizon Welcome to Ubuntu 22.04.2 LTS (GNU/Linux 5.15.90.1-microsoft-standard-WSL2 x86_64)

[00:41:14] Neo_Nemesis/rizon okay now there is a bunch of commands i missed last time

[00:41:19] Neo_Nemesis/rizon that fucked me

[00:41:38] Neo_Nemesis/rizon i need to apparently input some data and switch the XDRP BEFORE installing ubuntu-desktop

[00:41:59] Neo_Nemesis/rizon fucking what i get for not using linux in over a decade

[00:47:24] Neo_Nemesis/rizon lol

[00:49:34] Neo_Nemesis/rizon ha

[00:49:58] Neo_Nemesis/rizon whats the difference between "sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop" and "sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop gnome"

[00:50:21] Neo_Nemesis/rizon isnt gnome for the gui

[00:51:35] Neo_Nemesis/rizon ah yea

[00:51:57] Neo_Nemesis/rizon yea WSL2 is Win 10+

[00:52:21] Neo_Nemesis/rizon supposed to be faster than WSL but after taking 8.5 hours to install last night IDK about that

[00:52:58] Neo_Nemesis/rizon but i also think i didnt do something right before installing thus causing the installation to take forever and chummed a bunch of errors

[00:53:17] Neo_Nemesis/rizon lol

[00:53:25] Neo_Nemesis/rizon windows sub-system linux 2

[00:53:44] Neo_Nemesis/rizon it sets up a virtual drive and runs linux on it

[00:54:56] Neo_Nemesis/rizon yea it definitely slows down the computer

[00:55:06] Neo_Nemesis/rizon at leat when its installing stuff

[00:55:14] Neo_Nemesis/rizon when its idling i dont even notice a difference

[00:55:33] Neo_Nemesis/rizon well it is win7 :P

[00:56:21] Neo_Nemesis/rizon idk about win11 but win10 you can turn all that crap off when you start up on a fresh install

[00:56:40] Neo_Nemesis/rizon ive not used 11

[00:57:31] Neo_Nemesis/rizon I like Win8.1 and WinXP those were the better of the windblows

[00:58:13] Neo_Nemesis/rizon ysalamiri: its still windows, and its pretty much Win10 but slightly better navigation, IMO

[00:58:51] Neo_Nemesis/rizon not really sure, seems to be about the same on my dell

[00:59:29] Neo_Nemesis/rizon it also depends on the hardware too ysalamiri, older stuff will probably struggle

[00:59:44] Neo_Nemesis/rizon but i had win8.1 and win10 running fine on a old Windows 7 computer

[01:00:03] Neo_Nemesis/rizon haha

[01:00:27] Neo_Nemesis/rizon i pref ASUS and AMD hardware, but this dell was free and had better hardware performance

[01:00:40] Neo_Nemesis/rizon vs an Asrock N-68S chipset from the 2000s

[01:01:23] Neo_Nemesis/rizon ysalamiri: greece I think or lebanon

[01:01:28] Neo_Nemesis/rizon they dont extradite

[01:01:55] Neo_Nemesis/rizon thats why i love amd

[01:02:20] Neo_Nemesis/rizon intel is solid hardware, it just lacks in areas like clocking and upgrades

[01:02:44] Neo_Nemesis/rizon ysalamiri get some overpowered fan and a giant heatsoak lmao

[01:03:00] Neo_Nemesis/rizon make it so big the heatsoak sits out of the case with the fan on it

[01:03:23] Neo_Nemesis/rizon oh

[01:03:26] Neo_Nemesis/rizon probably

[01:05:03] Neo_Nemesis/rizon that looks familiar

[01:05:15] Neo_Nemesis/rizon lol

[01:05:34] Neo_Nemesis/rizon I remember Krashed, that dude is in jail too last I heard

[01:06:26] Neo_Nemesis/rizon yea he was cool tho, he ddos'd people for me and gave me access to his botnet for a short peroid

[01:06:56] Neo_Nemesis/rizon lol

[01:07:33] Neo_Nemesis/rizon yea thats what i heard after the fact

[01:07:53] Neo_Nemesis/rizon but i never witnessed it, i wasnt aware how in depth he was with that until after he got busted

[01:09:34] Neo_Nemesis/rizon yea he did

[01:09:49] Neo_Nemesis/rizon i remember travis

[01:09:56] Neo_Nemesis/rizon yea

[01:10:03] Neo_Nemesis/rizon ive not seen travis in a long time

[01:10:38] Neo_Nemesis/rizon i remember one guy back on webchat, NIGGERFAGGOT dude got busted for messing with teenagers or something, I heard

[01:11:11] Neo_Nemesis/rizon and another one waynejones

[01:11:15] Neo_Nemesis/rizon he was str8 pedo

[01:11:21] Neo_Nemesis/rizon asking ppl for cp and shit

[01:11:40] Neo_Nemesis/rizon he got busted too

[01:12:35] Neo_Nemesis/rizon i was around some of it, but some of the more crazier ones I steered clear of

[01:13:32] Neo_Nemesis/rizon are they even still a thing

[01:14:14] Neo_Nemesis/rizon ha

[01:14:27] Neo_Nemesis/rizon yea

[01:15:25] Neo_Nemesis/rizon ive not seen him

[01:15:31] Neo_Nemesis/rizon i thought he was still in jail

[01:16:30] Neo_Nemesis/rizon and even he was out, he doesn't strike as the type of guy who would continue to use krashed after

[01:16:55] Neo_Nemesis/rizon ysalamiri: thats what happened to a lot of the O.G.s

[01:17:01] Neo_Nemesis/rizon they got married, had kids and forget all about IRC

[01:18:02] Neo_Nemesis/rizon !bang

[01:18:06] Neo_Nemesis/rizon hehe

[01:18:28] Neo_Nemesis/rizon TheFatherMind looks like we got a mexican stand off, only we aint got no mexicans

[01:19:05] Neo_Nemesis/rizon REMEMBER THE ALAMOOOOO

[01:19:06] Neo_Nemesis/rizon lol

[01:19:31] Neo_Nemesis/rizon when i lived in west viriginia people thought mexico was a restaurant

[01:20:23] Neo_Nemesis/rizon also ysalamiri Alabama is probably one of the more ignorant parts of the USA, still good people there but that part of the country is where you get all the lazy slacks and ppl who dont care

[01:20:53] Neo_Nemesis/rizon yea lots of fun stuff to do

[01:21:01] Neo_Nemesis/rizon just the people rub off on you

[01:21:20] Neo_Nemesis/rizon TheFatherMind: Ive also heard that, allegedly

[01:21:37] Neo_Nemesis/rizon Alabama is humid asf too

[01:21:48] Neo_Nemesis/rizon when i was in west virginia the humidity was bullshit

[01:22:13] Neo_Nemesis/rizon lmao

[01:22:53] Neo_Nemesis/rizon look at that, i think i did it right this time, ubuntu-desktop install took like 15 mins

[01:22:55] Neo_Nemesis/rizon thats more like it

[01:25:34] Neo_Nemesis/rizon oh maybe i spoke too soon

[01:25:35] Neo_Nemesis/rizon Command 'wslvar' not found, but can be installed with:

[01:25:35] Neo_Nemesis/rizon neo@DESKTOP-7FG63FP:~$ username=$(wslvar Neo)

[01:25:35] Neo_Nemesis/rizon neo@DESKTOP-7FG63FP:~$ sudo apt install wslu

[01:25:35] Neo_Nemesis/rizon sudo apt install wslu

[01:25:35] Neo_Nemesis/rizon Reading package lists... Done

[01:25:36] Neo_Nemesis/rizon Reading state information... Done

[01:25:36] Neo_Nemesis/rizon Building dependency tree... Done

[01:25:37] Neo_Nemesis/rizon E: Unable to locate package wslu

[01:25:50] Neo_Nemesis/rizon wat

[01:34:19] Neo_Nemesis/rizon TheFatherMind: lol

[01:34:49] Neo_Nemesis/rizon systwi: its okay, he looks like a frog but identifies as a car

[01:34:52] Neo_Nemesis/rizon cat

[01:35:35] Neo_Nemesis/rizon brb rebooting

[01:48:43] Neo_Nemesis/rizon ty

[01:57:12] Neo_Nemesis/rizon meh

[01:57:20] Neo_Nemesis/rizon WSL2 im starting to not like you

[01:57:22] Neo_Nemesis/rizon you're shit

[01:57:44] Neo_Nemesis/rizon all this time ive put into trying to make all this shit work I couldve built a linux machine

[02:05:00] Neo_Nemesis/rizon wez: I think thats what im going to do

[02:05:11] Neo_Nemesis/rizon i did the WSL2 because it was supposed to be a quick thing

[02:05:14] Neo_Nemesis/rizon and it turned into a nightmare

[02:06:03] Neo_Nemesis/rizon Gentoo: im probably just going to leave command line on WSL2 for now and muck with a linux machine later

[02:09:16] Neo_Nemesis/rizon Gentoo: wdym

[02:10:59] Neo_Nemesis/rizon Gentoo: oh ok lol

[02:11:18] Neo_Nemesis/rizon Gentoo: I'm no pro, i havent used "GNU" in a long time

[02:14:50] Neo_Nemesis/rizon lol

[02:15:09] Neo_Nemesis/rizon Gentoo I havent used anything with a "Linux" kernal in probably 15 years

[02:15:44] Neo_Nemesis/rizon uh well i guess technically, youre correct

[02:16:08] Neo_Nemesis/rizon Gentoo: i havent used a dedicated os like Ubuntu, Fedora etc. in 15 years

[02:22:25] Neo_Nemesis/rizon Gentoo i will be doing that but, later, been wanting to code all day finally got a chance :D

[02:22:46] Neo_Nemesis/rizon no

[02:22:56] Neo_Nemesis/rizon ive been installing the OS all day instead of coding

[02:23:31] Neo_Nemesis/rizon Gentoo: so now that im done pulling my hair out, im gonna do what i wanted to do this morning: coding

[02:25:40] Neo_Nemesis/rizon Gentoo: Once I get more done with my programming project I am gonna put it on a zip drive and wipe the SSD and install on that instead of shitty WSL2

[02:55:02] Neo_Nemesis/rizon possesion is 9 tenths ofthe law!

[02:55:03] Neo_Nemesis/rizon lol

[02:55:46] Neo_Nemesis/rizon its propreitary if you buy it, otherwise its pirated

[03:02:03] Neo_Nemesis/rizon Encylopedia Gentoo over here :P

[03:02:19] Neo_Nemesis/rizon ysalamiri take one for me bud

[03:03:19] Neo_Nemesis/rizon Gentoo: unless your Nintendo

[03:03:42] Neo_Nemesis/rizon Nintendo is the most stingiest with copyright stuff ive seen, and just stingy in general, good products tho

[03:07:32] Neo_Nemesis/rizon Gentoo: anything you create is your intellectual property, the GPL is what protects your creation

[03:08:20] Neo_Nemesis/rizon thats what you use

[03:08:36] Neo_Nemesis/rizon using a free softeare license does nothing for protecting your intellectual property

[03:09:10] Neo_Nemesis/rizon Gentoo: I'm referring to actual creations not imaginations

[03:09:31] Neo_Nemesis/rizon if you open MSPaint and draw a tree that is your intellectual property

[03:10:02] Neo_Nemesis/rizon !bang

[03:10:04] Neo_Nemesis/rizon !bang

[03:10:06] Neo_Nemesis/rizon !reload

[03:10:06] Neo_Nemesis/rizon !bang

[03:10:11] Neo_Nemesis/rizon boom

[03:10:20] Neo_Nemesis/rizon nice one TheFatherMind

[03:10:51] Neo_Nemesis/rizon NiniGeo2: tell me about it, im trying to perfect tree drawing in Aseprite for the game im coding

[03:11:07] Neo_Nemesis/rizon NiniGeo2: also walking/running is a challenge to draw too

[03:11:41] Neo_Nemesis/rizon Gentoo: its digital therefore physical in it existence on the hard drive

[03:11:55] Neo_Nemesis/rizon you can take it it put on a drive or a disk

[03:12:02] Neo_Nemesis/rizon !bang

[03:12:06] Neo_Nemesis/rizon !bang

[03:12:08] Neo_Nemesis/rizon o rite

[03:12:18] Neo_Nemesis/rizon !reload

[03:12:25] Neo_Nemesis/rizon !reload

[03:13:09] Neo_Nemesis/rizon >.>

[03:13:26] Neo_Nemesis/rizon so many chans

[03:13:30] Neo_Nemesis/rizon and no samas

[03:14:04] Neo_Nemesis/rizon sushi-chan you should refer to Kuro-chan as Kuro-kun

[03:14:08] Neo_Nemesis/rizon cos you love him so much

[03:14:33] Neo_Nemesis/rizon cos he is Kuro-chan to other people casually

[03:14:40] Neo_Nemesis/rizon Kun is more of a family title

[03:14:44] Neo_Nemesis/rizon or close friend

[03:14:48] Neo_Nemesis/rizon chan is casual

[03:15:22] Neo_Nemesis/rizon idk

[03:15:29] Neo_Nemesis/rizon i just know what i hear in anime

[03:15:30] Neo_Nemesis/rizon ¯\_(o.O)_/¯

[03:15:58] Neo_Nemesis/rizon -sama is someone of high regard, -kun is someone close, -san is formal, -chan is casual

[03:16:57] Neo_Nemesis/rizon sushi-chan I could be wrong tho, im not japanese

[03:17:12] Neo_Nemesis/rizon I THINK IM TURNING JAPANESE I THINK IM TURNING JAPANESE I REALLY THINK SOOOOO

[03:17:51] Neo_Nemesis/rizon sushi-chan then we need to eat asian food for a month

[03:17:54] Neo_Nemesis/rizon like those tiktok videos

[03:22:15] Neo_Nemesis/rizon you know what gets me, is those places that sell a cheeseburger thats 3 stories high with meat and bacon

[03:22:18] Neo_Nemesis/rizon HOW DO YOU EAT IT

[03:28:09] Neo_Nemesis/rizon Kumool: Of course! The kirby technique!

[03:28:56] Neo_Nemesis/rizon PapaFrog: Two dyslexics go to rob a bank, they run in and say "AIR IN THE HANDS MOTHERSTICKERS THIS IS A FUCK UP!"

[03:31:33] Neo_Nemesis/rizon Gentoo: I am dyslexic, sometimes it just happens during speech

[04:08:55] Neo_Nemesis/rizon !ɮѧӤԍ

[04:32:35] Neo_Nemesis/rizon thats pinnocchio

[04:32:44] Neo_Nemesis/rizon Piccolo is the mean green Namekian machine

[04:32:58] Neo_Nemesis/rizon well i guess it depends on whic piccolo Piccolo is

[04:33:51] Neo_Nemesis/rizon the original evil Piccolo Daimo or the not-so-evil spawn Piccolo Jr aka Majunior

[04:34:02] Neo_Nemesis/rizon !bang

[04:34:06] Neo_Nemesis/rizon ;)

[04:34:39] Neo_Nemesis/rizon !topduck

[04:44:38] Neo_Nemesis/rizon yea h4 dragging his knuckles on this one, im climbing up slowly

[04:44:48] Neo_Nemesis/rizon Foxy is pretty far ahead

[05:06:33] Neo_Nemesis/rizon phish: mushrooms can jam CB radio output js

[05:18:25] Neo_Nemesis/rizon ;)

[05:19:16] Neo_Nemesis/rizon phish: was it just broke down or did it roll down the mountain

[05:22:07] Neo_Nemesis/rizon !bang

[05:22:09] Neo_Nemesis/rizon !reload

[05:22:10] Neo_Nemesis/rizon !bang

[05:22:13] Neo_Nemesis/rizon !bang

[05:22:25] Neo_Nemesis/rizon lol

[05:22:29] Neo_Nemesis/rizon reload TheFatherMind

[05:22:57] Neo_Nemesis/rizon hmmm for being 3 months past the expiration date these cinnamon cookies are still soft and tasty

[05:22:58] Neo_Nemesis/rizon lmao

[05:24:41] Neo_Nemesis/rizon !duckstats

[05:58:19] Neo_Nemesis/rizon hi Mikoolo

[05:58:46] Neo_Nemesis/rizon a morning the birds are chirping

[05:58:53] Neo_Nemesis/rizon well maybe not there you got snow dont you

[05:59:08] Neo_Nemesis/rizon whats snow

[05:59:13] Neo_Nemesis/rizon snow doesnt exist here

[05:59:27] Neo_Nemesis/rizon :O

[05:59:42] Neo_Nemesis/rizon my only experience with snow is when i lived in West Virginia

[06:00:12] Neo_Nemesis/rizon out there it was trudge thru the snow at 4 am to clear the driveway

[06:00:27] Neo_Nemesis/rizon then go back out at 6 AM to clear what the plows threw back in your driveway

[06:00:34] Neo_Nemesis/rizon then go to work

[06:00:45] Neo_Nemesis/rizon then come home, and shovel more snow

[06:01:06] Neo_Nemesis/rizon the most I saw there was like 2 feet

[06:01:14] Neo_Nemesis/rizon i live in Arizona now

[06:01:18] Neo_Nemesis/rizon we hardly even get rain

[06:01:20] Neo_Nemesis/rizon lol

[06:01:35] Neo_Nemesis/rizon my dad lives in colorado

[06:01:40] Neo_Nemesis/rizon he gets 4-6 feet

[06:02:01] Neo_Nemesis/rizon im a warm blooded desert rat

[06:02:03] Neo_Nemesis/rizon i hate the cold

[06:02:20] Neo_Nemesis/rizon thats ridiculous

[06:02:43] Neo_Nemesis/rizon nice

[06:02:58] Neo_Nemesis/rizon last christmas was my last winter in West Virginia, we actually didnt get a lot of snow

[06:03:08] Neo_Nemesis/rizon but, christmas eve we got a ice storm

[06:03:36] Neo_Nemesis/rizon yea i dealt witht hat in wv

[06:03:48] Neo_Nemesis/rizon i learned to say fuck it and wait for the snow to let up

[06:04:12] Neo_Nemesis/rizon yea the fresh powder snow just floats

[06:05:14] Neo_Nemesis/rizon last winter in WV during the ice storm it was a high of -17 C with a windchill of -26C

[06:05:17] Neo_Nemesis/rizon that was COLD

[06:05:20] Neo_Nemesis/rizon fucking COLD COLD

[06:05:43] Neo_Nemesis/rizon thats the coldest ive ever experienced

[06:06:04] Neo_Nemesis/rizon 38C is the normal here

[06:06:07] Neo_Nemesis/rizon in az

[06:06:29] Neo_Nemesis/rizon how does that only make a 1.3 degree difference

[06:06:54] Neo_Nemesis/rizon oh

[06:06:56] Neo_Nemesis/rizon dumb americans

[06:07:04] Neo_Nemesis/rizon and their weird tools

[06:07:42] Neo_Nemesis/rizon fifel: summers in WV were brutal for humdity

[06:07:58] Neo_Nemesis/rizon winter is too

[06:08:02] Neo_Nemesis/rizon i didnt much like it there

[06:08:14] Neo_Nemesis/rizon its pretty and stuff until you go outside and you instantly feel sticky and slimy

[06:08:40] Neo_Nemesis/rizon pretty much

[06:08:44] Neo_Nemesis/rizon just like out damn tools

[06:08:56] Neo_Nemesis/rizon 1/2 inch, 3/4 inch 5/16 so on

[06:09:18] Neo_Nemesis/rizon you can use metric tools on SAE bolts, but you cant use SAE tools on metric bolts

[06:09:31] Neo_Nemesis/rizon 1/2inch is just a hair shy of 13mm

[06:10:03] Neo_Nemesis/rizon 9/16 is just shy of 14 or 15 mm i think

[06:10:23] Neo_Nemesis/rizon fifel: yea but us imperial tools dont work on metric hardware

[06:10:32] Neo_Nemesis/rizon you run the risk of rounding off the bolt

[06:10:49] Neo_Nemesis/rizon but the metric tools work fine on a imperial sized bolt

[06:11:16] Neo_Nemesis/rizon fifel: if you got a taiwan wrench maybe

[06:11:48] Neo_Nemesis/rizon I've got craftsman, matco and mac wrenches and the only time ive stripped a bolt is 1) someone else already fucked it up or 2) i grabbed the wrong size wrench

[06:11:59] Neo_Nemesis/rizon torque is twisting force

[06:13:04] Neo_Nemesis/rizon fifel: nah thats could a cheater bar

[06:13:26] Neo_Nemesis/rizon you use a cheater bar when the bolt was overtightened or cross threaded or just really torqued down

[06:14:28] Neo_Nemesis/rizon fifel: in some cases you have to use a cheater pipe to also tighten the bolt

[06:14:34] Neo_Nemesis/rizon or buy a torque wrench

[06:15:05] Neo_Nemesis/rizon but the only things that need torqued are things like lug nuts, cylinder head bolts and manifold bolts

[06:15:09] Neo_Nemesis/rizon everything else doesnt matter

[06:15:39] Neo_Nemesis/rizon fifel: they have a tool for that too its called an angle wrench

[06:16:07] Neo_Nemesis/rizon with cylinder head bolts you torque them in sequences then finish it off with adition 90 degrees

[06:17:09] Neo_Nemesis/rizon old style tapered wheel bearings also require torque to a certain pressure then additional 60-90 degrees depending on tolerance and vehicle

[06:17:45] Neo_Nemesis/rizon locktite is only used when you have something that may vibrate the hardware loose

[06:17:59] Neo_Nemesis/rizon some people are just psychopaths and use locktite on everything

[06:18:52] Neo_Nemesis/rizon every shop has at least one

[06:18:59] Neo_Nemesis/rizon and every garage has at least one tube somewhere im sure

[06:19:50] Neo_Nemesis/rizon fifel: locktite is required by Ford on the mustang brake caliper bolts

[06:20:45] Neo_Nemesis/rizon bicycle! bicycle!

[06:20:57] Neo_Nemesis/rizon I want to ride my my BICYCLE I want to ride my biiiiike

[06:22:33] Neo_Nemesis/rizon fifel: bicycles are infinitely better than cars

[06:22:44] Neo_Nemesis/rizon problem is, it takes effort and a lot of ppl are lazy

[06:23:00] Neo_Nemesis/rizon oh well if you're hauling yea

[06:23:03] Neo_Nemesis/rizon i meant more-so travel

[06:23:43] Neo_Nemesis/rizon ive seem some pretty crazy loads being drawn by two and three wheeled vehicles tho

[06:23:58] Neo_Nemesis/rizon out here being so close to mexico you should see some of the hauling methods they come up with

[06:24:35] Neo_Nemesis/rizon oh they have electrics there?

[06:24:41] Neo_Nemesis/rizon most of our trucks are still diesel

[06:25:03] Neo_Nemesis/rizon oooh

[06:25:13] Neo_Nemesis/rizon australians come up with the best vehicle ideas tho!

[06:25:17] Neo_Nemesis/rizon like the ute!

[06:25:38] Neo_Nemesis/rizon well more-so modification than engineering

[06:25:56] Neo_Nemesis/rizon its okay the ute didnt last long here

[06:26:12] Neo_Nemesis/rizon but the american utes consisted of a Ford Ranchero and a Chevy El Camino

[06:26:41] Neo_Nemesis/rizon thats japanese, but those actually sell here

[06:27:00] Neo_Nemesis/rizon anything suburu sells here just because "subaru"

[06:27:18] Neo_Nemesis/rizon slap a WRX badge on it and its sold before it leaves the truck

[06:27:31] Neo_Nemesis/rizon lesbians and Chad's and boost freaks

[06:28:21] Neo_Nemesis/rizon boost freak is almost like a Chad but dummer, vapes more and slaps a big turbo on his subaru and cranks the boost to 100 psi on stock on internals then acts dumbfounded when the engine launches out of thecar into space

[06:29:00] Neo_Nemesis/rizon uh

[06:29:07] Neo_Nemesis/rizon you go by Kpa dont you

[06:29:16] Neo_Nemesis/rizon instead of psi?

[06:29:37] Neo_Nemesis/rizon honda bikes are one of the better bikes honestly

[06:30:00] Neo_Nemesis/rizon i mean anything from Honda is usually good

[06:30:45] Neo_Nemesis/rizon yea honda engineering is based in racing

[06:31:18] Neo_Nemesis/rizon wez: Honda Civics are very good cars

[06:31:33] Neo_Nemesis/rizon reliability wise

[06:31:38] Neo_Nemesis/rizon and gas mileage

[06:32:03] Neo_Nemesis/rizon !bang

[06:32:35] Neo_Nemesis/rizon wez: stock civics are pretty slow unless you buy one of the sporty models, but good thing about Honda is they have upgrades for everything

[06:33:25] Neo_Nemesis/rizon wez: Ive never heard of that

[06:33:42] Neo_Nemesis/rizon but I never worked for Honda, only worked on Hondas. I did work for Nissan tho

[06:34:25] Neo_Nemesis/rizon Ziginox: Im gonna call up some hard pipe hittin niggas, and we gonna get medieval on his ass

[06:34:55] Neo_Nemesis/rizon wez: in the USA its common knowledge that european cars are poorly designed garbage cans

[06:35:16] Neo_Nemesis/rizon owning a euro car in the USA is nothing more than a status symbol

[06:35:33] Neo_Nemesis/rizon just to show you got the money to afford a BMW

[06:35:44] Neo_Nemesis/rizon then it breaks and they dont wanna pay $10,000 to fix it

[06:36:02] Neo_Nemesis/rizon wez: depends on what you buy

[06:36:24] Neo_Nemesis/rizon if you buy a Camaro or a Mustang, of course your fuel useage is going to suck

[06:36:47] Neo_Nemesis/rizon Toyota was (or still is) #1 manufacturer for reliability

[06:37:07] Neo_Nemesis/rizon tho a lot of modern practices are chipping away at the reliability of all cars

[06:37:30] Neo_Nemesis/rizon Gentoo: thats a real thing

[06:37:36] Neo_Nemesis/rizon you can hack a car to steal it now

[06:37:48] Neo_Nemesis/rizon because cars have what is called a CAN

[06:38:04] Neo_Nemesis/rizon Ziginox: new nissans are

[06:38:26] Neo_Nemesis/rizon yea

[06:38:31] Neo_Nemesis/rizon he had to crash that honda

[06:38:46] Neo_Nemesis/rizon ooh

[06:38:55] Neo_Nemesis/rizon they stopped selling the pulsar in the USA a long time ago

[06:39:06] Neo_Nemesis/rizon wez: You guys also have the Terrano and Nevarro

[06:39:40] Neo_Nemesis/rizon Ziginox: no

[06:39:49] Neo_Nemesis/rizon I can tell what make or model the car is by the sound of the engine

[06:39:51] Neo_Nemesis/rizon is that bad

[06:40:28] Neo_Nemesis/rizon wez: clutches wear out, they are a regular wear item

[06:40:37] Neo_Nemesis/rizon they're not designed or intended to last forever

[06:41:00] Neo_Nemesis/rizon any higher trim level Nissan does

[06:41:07] Neo_Nemesis/rizon base model trim levels no

[06:41:25] Neo_Nemesis/rizon wez: the little designations they give to cars

[06:41:34] Neo_Nemesis/rizon like your Pulsar

[06:41:37] Neo_Nemesis/rizon does it have a letter badge

[06:41:42] Neo_Nemesis/rizon like S or SR or SV

[06:42:02] Neo_Nemesis/rizon !bang

[06:42:21] Neo_Nemesis/rizon wez: basically the trim level is what features are available in the car

[06:42:28] Neo_Nemesis/rizon the higher the trim level the fancier the bells and whistles

[06:42:54] Neo_Nemesis/rizon Ziginox: because everyone puts dual exhuast on them

[06:42:59] Neo_Nemesis/rizon and they came stock with it

[06:43:14] Neo_Nemesis/rizon but if you do a single pipe 3inch to 3.5 inch 350Z sounds tits

[06:43:39] Neo_Nemesis/rizon Ziginox: I have 2 1987 300zx and 1 1984 300zx

[06:44:02] Neo_Nemesis/rizon yea the 300zx sounds tits

[06:44:10] Neo_Nemesis/rizon expecially turbo with no cat

[06:44:33] Neo_Nemesis/rizon which the European market 300ZX was the only one to come without a catyltic converter

[06:44:49] Neo_Nemesis/rizon Ziginox: thats because thats an 80s Honda Civic hatch back

[06:44:53] Neo_Nemesis/rizon it sounds like a lawnmower

[06:45:15] Neo_Nemesis/rizon little more than a riding mower

[06:45:56] Neo_Nemesis/rizon nah the old civics had puny little engines

[06:46:05] Neo_Nemesis/rizon i think the first gen civic had 1.0L

[06:46:32] Neo_Nemesis/rizon Ziginox: My 80s 300ZX makes 205 HP stock with 6.7psi of boost

[06:46:49] Neo_Nemesis/rizon +15 HP for ever 1+ psi of boost

[06:47:20] Neo_Nemesis/rizon didnt know that

[06:47:28] Neo_Nemesis/rizon DOHC is all around better

[06:47:33] Neo_Nemesis/rizon my 300ZX is SOHC :(

[06:47:41] Neo_Nemesis/rizon 300zx didnt get DOHC until 1990

[06:48:10] Neo_Nemesis/rizon I had a 1980 Chevy LUV that had a 1.8L isuzu I4 in it (stock)

[06:48:25] Neo_Nemesis/rizon gutless little truck couldnt even skirt the tires on pavement

[06:48:40] Neo_Nemesis/rizon but once you got it out in the dirt man was it a fun drive

[06:48:52] Neo_Nemesis/rizon i think thats exactly what it was

[06:48:56] Neo_Nemesis/rizon same engine as Isuzu PUP

[06:49:05] Neo_Nemesis/rizon well chevy luv is a rebadged PUP

[06:49:39] Neo_Nemesis/rizon the G180s are known for blowing head gaskets

[06:50:17] Neo_Nemesis/rizon Isuzu also designed the Duramax diesel

[06:50:26] Neo_Nemesis/rizon well, they designed it along side GM engineers

[06:50:29] Neo_Nemesis/rizon but they were still involved

[06:50:55] Neo_Nemesis/rizon i think they fixed it in their designs

[06:50:59] Neo_Nemesis/rizon and just left chevy to figure it out

[06:51:43] Neo_Nemesis/rizon The only isuzu i care for is the rodeo

[06:51:50] Neo_Nemesis/rizon and even then its a love hate relationship

[06:52:44] Neo_Nemesis/rizon yea that was the whole thing behind the joint venture

[06:53:21] Neo_Nemesis/rizon looks very datsun

[06:53:50] Neo_Nemesis/rizon the seats look nice too

[06:53:57] Neo_Nemesis/rizon but living in AZ i dont like leather seats lol

[06:54:04] Neo_Nemesis/rizon its like sitting on grittle

[06:54:24] Neo_Nemesis/rizon and makes you sweat thru your clothes

[06:54:40] Neo_Nemesis/rizon i mean theres a lot of SOHC engines that dominate

[06:54:50] Neo_Nemesis/rizon the L series engines in the datsuns for example

[06:56:16] Neo_Nemesis/rizon yea but a pushrod OHV engine would probably last longer than a SOHC

[06:56:29] Neo_Nemesis/rizon cos OHV engines from that era have steel timing chains

[06:56:36] Neo_Nemesis/rizon where SOHC have rubber timing belts

[06:57:08] Neo_Nemesis/rizon yea but how many people do anything to their cars at the recommended intervals?

[06:57:31] Neo_Nemesis/rizon I change the timing belt on my 300ZX whenever I have the excuse lol

[06:57:53] Neo_Nemesis/rizon most people who own cars will drive it until it doesnt drive anymore

[06:58:05] Neo_Nemesis/rizon then complain that the shop charged them $2K in repairs

[06:58:20] Neo_Nemesis/rizon when if they had brought it in when it first started having issues it couldve been a $200 repair

[06:59:15] Neo_Nemesis/rizon i mean ive work in the automotive industry 20 years and snapped timing belts are up towards the top of the list

[06:59:23] Neo_Nemesis/rizon along with broken Chryslers and broken Euro cars

[06:59:58] Neo_Nemesis/rizon Gentoo: friction and neglect

[07:00:07] Neo_Nemesis/rizon more so the neglect

[07:00:21] Neo_Nemesis/rizon and on modern cars, engineers cutting corners to save money

[07:00:39] Neo_Nemesis/rizon Friction is #1 cause of wear in an engine

[07:00:59] Neo_Nemesis/rizon everything has friction in a motor, thats why they use oil

[07:01:13] Neo_Nemesis/rizon neglect

[07:01:44] Neo_Nemesis/rizon engines are full of hundreds of moving parts, and every single moving part attaches to or rubs against something

[07:02:19] Neo_Nemesis/rizon if you dont change the oil the friction increases as the oil viscosity breaks down

[07:02:58] Neo_Nemesis/rizon Peorth: some engines are really strong like that

[07:03:12] Neo_Nemesis/rizon There is a toyota that was driven 500 miles with no oil, and it didnt even knock

[07:03:53] Neo_Nemesis/rizon Gentoo: engines burn oil, even brand new. Its part of the process.

[07:04:19] Neo_Nemesis/rizon piston rings do not seal 100% there is no way they can because the parts are moving so fast

[07:04:35] Neo_Nemesis/rizon if you have blue smoke something is wrong lol

[07:04:49] Neo_Nemesis/rizon blue smoke means you're burning a ton of oil

[07:04:59] Neo_Nemesis/rizon Peorth: truth

[07:05:21] Neo_Nemesis/rizon yea 2 strokes are an exeception to that rule

[07:05:52] Neo_Nemesis/rizon Ziginox: Im sure its probably something ridiculously over engineered to the point of ineffeciency

[07:06:07] Neo_Nemesis/rizon oh

[07:06:16] Neo_Nemesis/rizon have you ever replaced a water pump on a Audi A4 ?

[07:06:23] Neo_Nemesis/rizon or a cadillac northstar engine?

[07:06:34] Neo_Nemesis/rizon both of them have belt driven water pumps driven by a belt off the camshaft

[07:07:03] Neo_Nemesis/rizon !bang

[07:07:25] Neo_Nemesis/rizon Ziginox: if its in an area with oil then the rubber would have to be specialized to be in contact with oil

[07:07:40] Neo_Nemesis/rizon otherwise it would quickly turn into a goodey mess of black crap and strings

[07:08:04] Neo_Nemesis/rizon but still

[07:08:09] Neo_Nemesis/rizon rubber belts are so 1990s

[07:08:36] Neo_Nemesis/rizon yea its gonna wear out and take a shit

[07:08:42] Neo_Nemesis/rizon they probably did that intentionally for that reason

[07:08:47] Neo_Nemesis/rizon bring more money into the shop

[07:09:15] Neo_Nemesis/rizon Gentoo: you dont have engine maintenence, but you still have everything else, brakes, tires, suspension, steering

[07:09:19] Neo_Nemesis/rizon and battery maintenance

[07:09:40] Neo_Nemesis/rizon Ziginox: The Duramax water pump is behind the timing cover

[07:09:43] Neo_Nemesis/rizon driven by the timing chain

[07:10:06] Neo_Nemesis/rizon yea it does

[07:10:14] Neo_Nemesis/rizon timing cover is oiled on timing chain engines

[07:10:30] Neo_Nemesis/rizon ask isuzu

[07:10:54] Neo_Nemesis/rizon thats how you know your water pump is bad on a Duramax

[07:10:58] Neo_Nemesis/rizon when you got milkshake oil

[07:11:30] Neo_Nemesis/rizon Ziginox: speaking from my professional experience in the automotive world, things are not designed conveniently anymore

[07:11:33] Neo_Nemesis/rizon thats a relic of the past

[07:11:48] Neo_Nemesis/rizon now-a-days manufacturers dont want you fixing your own stuff

[07:12:15] Neo_Nemesis/rizon so they make it as hard as possible to fix to discourage you from DIY and in turn making you take it to a dealership

[07:12:32] Neo_Nemesis/rizon Ziginox: yea subaru engines are easy to pull

[07:13:19] Neo_Nemesis/rizon Ziginox: On a Nissan Murano you have to pull the engine to do anything serious to it

[07:13:38] Neo_Nemesis/rizon Corvid: old cars that are popular have tons of parts available for them

[07:13:53] Neo_Nemesis/rizon and now that CNC machines are "cheap" people make parts themselves

[07:14:15] Neo_Nemesis/rizon Ziginox: when I worked at Nissan they werent too bad to work on

[07:14:23] Neo_Nemesis/rizon the 2021 and up are getting a little crazy tho

[07:14:54] Neo_Nemesis/rizon Nissan went to shit in the 2000s when Carlos Gohsn (or whatever his name is) came in to the picture

[07:15:29] Neo_Nemesis/rizon he was the one who directed the nissan engineers to start using cheaper less quality materials and cut corners in production

[07:15:39] Neo_Nemesis/rizon and he was louded and awarded for saving Nissan so much money

[07:15:55] Neo_Nemesis/rizon but as a result, Nissans quality went to shit

[07:16:02] Neo_Nemesis/rizon ty

[07:16:19] Neo_Nemesis/rizon they all are

[07:16:21] Neo_Nemesis/rizon even Toyota

[07:16:43] Neo_Nemesis/rizon yea

[07:16:49] Neo_Nemesis/rizon they tried with the BRZ and failed

[07:16:58] Neo_Nemesis/rizon then tried again with a BMW supra joint venture

[07:17:01] Neo_Nemesis/rizon and failed again

[07:17:16] Neo_Nemesis/rizon BRZ is a mid life crisis car

[07:17:19] Neo_Nemesis/rizon its a spicy miata

[07:17:57] Neo_Nemesis/rizon Ziginox: BRZ and FRS and 86 are all the same cars

[07:18:17] Neo_Nemesis/rizon idk they look goofy to me

[07:18:19] Neo_Nemesis/rizon and underpowered

[07:18:23] Neo_Nemesis/rizon ooh

[07:18:30] Neo_Nemesis/rizon I think the primary was Subaru

[07:19:03] Neo_Nemesis/rizon yea

[07:19:09] Neo_Nemesis/rizon they're all the same really

[07:19:21] Neo_Nemesis/rizon i feel the same when i see one

[07:19:30] Neo_Nemesis/rizon im like a o a brzfrs86

[07:19:58] Neo_Nemesis/rizon arent they?

[07:20:01] Neo_Nemesis/rizon o no their coupes

[07:20:06] Neo_Nemesis/rizon they're

[07:20:37] Neo_Nemesis/rizon honestly, unless it has a WRX or STi badge on it i dont give it a second glance when it comes to subaru

[07:21:10] Neo_Nemesis/rizon Ziginox: every manufacturer is phasing out manual transmissions

[07:21:21] Neo_Nemesis/rizon it sucks

[07:21:32] Neo_Nemesis/rizon habit

[07:22:20] Neo_Nemesis/rizon subaru is still a good car none-the-less

[07:22:34] Neo_Nemesis/rizon I like subaru's rally stuff for sure

[07:22:38] Neo_Nemesis/rizon they're pretty good rally cars

[07:23:21] Neo_Nemesis/rizon did you ever see any of the Gymkhana stuff by Ken Block

[07:23:32] Neo_Nemesis/rizon he had a couple subarus

[07:24:31] Neo_Nemesis/rizon Peorth: crazy that he died in a snowmobile accident and not doing some crazy car stunt

[07:25:47] Neo_Nemesis/rizon interesting

[07:25:53] Neo_Nemesis/rizon Nissan did the same around that time frame

[07:26:00] Neo_Nemesis/rizon had orange/red switched to blue/green

[07:26:21] Neo_Nemesis/rizon Ive owned a bunch of old nissans mostly

[07:26:50] Neo_Nemesis/rizon my first car a 80s mercury cougar XR7 with the 385 HP super charged v6

[07:27:17] Neo_Nemesis/rizon transmission went kaput because it was an automatic

[07:27:40] Neo_Nemesis/rizon then i had a 86 volkswagen gti that thing was a bucket of bolts

[07:28:14] Neo_Nemesis/rizon then i got into Nissans ive had all sorts, 8 300ZXs, A pathfinder, a sentra and an altima

[07:28:26] Neo_Nemesis/rizon Sander: did the gas tank blow up

[07:29:18] Neo_Nemesis/rizon I remember mini had a safety recall because the fuel pumps were burning up and detonating the gas tanks

[07:29:36] Neo_Nemesis/rizon Ziginox: I love the 80s digi dashes

[07:29:41] Neo_Nemesis/rizon the cougar had one

[07:29:56] Neo_Nemesis/rizon i had one 300zx that had a digi dash but it didnt work properly

[07:30:58] Neo_Nemesis/rizon that second one is cooler

[07:31:04] Neo_Nemesis/rizon 300zx digi dash: https://www.topgear.com/sites/default/files/news-listicle/image/1984-nissan-300zx-turbo-50th-anniversary_4.jpg

[07:32:15] Neo_Nemesis/rizon ive only had one with the digital dash and it didnt display right

[07:32:20] Neo_Nemesis/rizon tried to repair it, no dice

[07:32:25] Neo_Nemesis/rizon all my other 300zxs have been analog

[07:33:31] Neo_Nemesis/rizon chevy has a really cool one in the older S10s I think?

[07:34:14] Neo_Nemesis/rizon looks like a cockpit

[07:35:46] Neo_Nemesis/rizon Ziginox have you seen any of the modern digital dashes?

[07:36:21] Neo_Nemesis/rizon like the Holley Sniper ?

[07:37:06] Neo_Nemesis/rizon its literally a tablet that you put in your gauge cluster

[07:37:33] Neo_Nemesis/rizon some of them are even touch screen

[07:38:12] Neo_Nemesis/rizon fulkly cusomizable, as far as the Holley EFI ones go, you can configure it to display whatever gauges you want

[07:38:37] Neo_Nemesis/rizon (as long as you have corresponding sensors installed)

[07:39:46] Neo_Nemesis/rizon im actually thinking of using a Holley EFI on my 300zx, as im pretty sure a pack rat has destroyed the wiring harness and those are next to impossible to find, and the ECUs are no-where to be found

[07:39:59] Neo_Nemesis/rizon its a toss up between Holley EFI or megasquirt

[07:40:28] Neo_Nemesis/rizon all the 300ZX guys use megasquirt EFI when their harnesses and ECUs crap out

[07:41:11] Neo_Nemesis/rizon so theres tons of support, but i dont always like to be the "hop on the band wagon" type

[07:43:28] Neo_Nemesis/rizon black dragon auto frw

[07:43:30] Neo_Nemesis/rizon ftw

[07:43:35] Neo_Nemesis/rizon i used to get their catalogue monthly

[07:43:54] Neo_Nemesis/rizon i got lucky with my 300zx collection

[07:44:00] Neo_Nemesis/rizon the most i payed for one of those was $800

[07:44:28] Neo_Nemesis/rizon of course ive not touched the Zs in almost 4 years now, and bought myself a $30K Nissan Altima that i kind of regret buying

[07:45:03] Neo_Nemesis/rizon !bang

[07:45:29] Neo_Nemesis/rizon Ziginox: some of the stock dashes are meh, but after market has all sorts of cool stuff

[07:46:07] Neo_Nemesis/rizon of course now with all this electronic crap you can literally steal a car by ripping out the head lamp and tapping into the CAN wiring

[07:47:23] Neo_Nemesis/rizon literally hacking the car to steal it

[07:47:39] Neo_Nemesis/rizon and some cars have wifi now, imagine what you could do with that from a computer lol

[07:55:18] Neo_Nemesis/rizon looks like WWIII is on our door step boys

[07:55:32] Neo_Nemesis/rizon its been in the front lawn for a while, now its knocking on the door

[07:55:45] Neo_Nemesis/rizon thats not the sky falling

[07:55:47] Neo_Nemesis/rizon those are bombs

[07:56:29] Neo_Nemesis/rizon it is at the front of my consideration lol

[07:57:02] Neo_Nemesis/rizon depends on how big of a nuke gets blown up

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