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[03:32:42] Kanabit/rizon guys, Location based service. I need to find my phone

[03:32:53] Kanabit/rizon where is the software?

[03:32:59] Kanabit/rizon anybody know?

[03:33:20] Kanabit/rizon my phone is turned on, no wifi, but cell phone towers still ping

[03:33:41] Kanabit/rizon I have a personal audio recording on it

[03:44:48] Kanabit/rizon Android Bluview 2

[03:46:38] Kanabit/rizon I tried logging into the google account I made for the phone it reverts me back to "My Devices is available for Google Workspace Enterprise Plus customers"

[03:47:05] Kanabit/rizon keep in mind, wifi is not on

[03:47:49] Kanabit/rizon I never activated a cell phone service

[03:48:08] Kanabit/rizon my smart phone is a android device

[03:49:12] Kanabit/rizon I did however connect the smart phone once to wifi

[03:49:19] Kanabit/rizon and made a google account

[03:49:40] Kanabit/rizon I believe all google will tell me is the loaction is at my house. After I created the google account I turned off wifi

[03:49:45] Kanabit/rizon that was a couple of days ago

[03:50:16] Kanabit/rizon fast forward today, I took this smart phone I took it a few places. When I got home. Later on, I discovered it was missing

[03:50:28] Kanabit/rizon I looked in my car I couldn't find it. I looked in my room I cant find it

[03:50:56] Kanabit/rizon Now my research indicates there is a service called LBS (Location based service)

[03:51:12] Kanabit/rizon freewifi, well not exactly. Not according to Location based service technology

[03:52:35] Kanabit/rizon well, the phone is still on, it still is tracked by cell phone towers

[03:53:20] Kanabit/rizon every once in a while even if wifi is off, even if there is no cell phone service. You get popped up emergency messages.

[03:53:37] Kanabit/rizon Now I believe Cell phone towers can still hit or track the phones. Or satellite possibly?

[03:53:52] Kanabit/rizon How do I know my phone is still on. I always leave my phones on 24/7

[03:55:24] Kanabit/rizon why is that?

[03:56:36] Kanabit/rizon What do you mean?

[03:57:42] Kanabit/rizon oh come on, can life give me a break here

[03:58:50] Kanabit/rizon I can sacrifice the phone but one little problem

[03:59:20] Kanabit/rizon freewifi, oh I never thought about that. Maybe someone didn't steal, maybe someone took it to try and find who owns it

[03:59:32] Kanabit/rizon there is a google account made on it

[03:59:57] Kanabit/rizon good point, but now why can't I login to that account on google to tracfone

[04:00:57] Kanabit/rizon [20:56] <Kanabit> I tried going to android website and go to find phone, it brings me to google goes "My devices is available for Google Workspace Enterprise Plus Customers" I go to sign in, I choose my account and bring me back to the same page hmm

[04:01:03] Kanabit/rizon freewifi, I did and thats what happens

[04:01:27] Kanabit/rizon I mean track the phone as in find phone on android which leads to google

[04:02:47] Kanabit/rizon Don't tell me I got to pay a service to google ? :/

[04:04:30] Kanabit/rizon well, okay I'm going to sound a little uneducated here

[04:05:03] Kanabit/rizon I signed up that google account with the same ip address. The same ip address I'm using the desktop computer. Why would that be indicating the phone is not mine?

[04:05:25] Kanabit/rizon oh the company has to do it

[04:05:35] Kanabit/rizon I called up the carrier and they told me there was nothing they can do

[04:05:47] Kanabit/rizon yes the phone is mine, I bought it with my own money I have the receipt

[04:07:17] Kanabit/rizon wait a second, I did call the carrier, maybe the carrier deactivated it?

[04:07:25] Kanabit/rizon what?

[04:08:49] Kanabit/rizon Maybe, I think they would have told me if they would have done that

[04:09:21] Kanabit/rizon tracfone

[04:09:34] Kanabit/rizon maybe I can get in touch with google support

[04:10:19] Kanabit/rizon google will take it as a security issue

[04:10:45] Kanabit/rizon yeah, I don't think google has support

[04:11:04] Kanabit/rizon Peorth, yes I logged into the play store to get a few apps, I think it was two days ago I believe

[04:12:51] Kanabit/rizon Peorth, phone is on, no cell service, wifi is off.

[04:13:14] Kanabit/rizon although, freewifi indicates if it was found, maybe someone turned wifi on

[04:13:39] Kanabit/rizon I wonder how I remote install find my droid on it

[04:13:48] Kanabit/rizon I'll research

[04:14:11] Kanabit/rizon wait, you are suggesting I use another google play account install that app, and then try something. I'm lost here

[04:15:08] Kanabit/rizon freewifi, Peroth didn't have that information when he told me that

[04:15:27] Kanabit/rizon how do I do it?

[04:15:59] Kanabit/rizon Peorth maybe assuming I can login to my account, but google is not letting me

[04:16:21] Kanabit/rizon as you indicated, it think its not my phone

[04:16:37] Kanabit/rizon Isn't there a third party software that can do this without google?

[04:18:01] Kanabit/rizon the link is from android dot com, and you click on find my device

[04:18:21] Kanabit/rizon mydevices.google.com

[04:19:30] Kanabit/rizon wait let me login to my google account that I made with my smart phone once

[04:22:14] Kanabit/rizon okay here is what is going on, I logged in using the mydevices link, I go to my profile with my smart phone account. But when I use your link, it's still on my original desktop firefox account. essentially I'm logged into two accounts at once now

[04:22:43] Kanabit/rizon how do I get to myaccount.google device activity link rather than opening up a new tab, it's not showing that other account

[04:23:34] Kanabit/rizon got it

[04:23:49] Kanabit/rizon something is showing at 7:44 am

[04:23:58] Kanabit/rizon wait a second nov 3

[04:24:02] Kanabit/rizon oh man thats not going to help

[04:24:35] Kanabit/rizon alright that means the found wasnt found and wifi is not enabled hmm

[04:25:05] Kanabit/rizon I think I left it at this private property

[04:25:24] Kanabit/rizon well, it's either in my car, room, or at this private property location

[04:26:02] Kanabit/rizon yes

[04:27:08] Kanabit/rizon you know what, remember when I told you that some how they can send emergency signals to phones and it makes noises. I wonder how they do that. It's also true that no wifi and no cell phone service is activated when it does that

[04:27:29] Kanabit/rizon how do I do that?

[04:29:55] Kanabit/rizon Location Based Service software

[04:30:02] Kanabit/rizon I read the technology

[04:30:43] Kanabit/rizon wait a second lol

[04:31:39] Kanabit/rizon NO lol, I just realized if I did leave it this private property location, the receptionist would have noticed, they have my name and number. I would have gotten a call. I did not

[04:32:06] Kanabit/rizon oh well, I guess I got to keep looking

[04:32:15] Kanabit/rizon yeah

[04:32:21] Kanabit/rizon The building is closed

[04:32:36] Kanabit/rizon I'll just look around for a while

[04:33:11] Kanabit/rizon I bet there is other software

[04:33:41] Kanabit/rizon thanks for your help

[04:35:25] Kanabit/rizon one little problem. I put a audio recording on there.

[04:35:37] Kanabit/rizon I recorded a phone call

[04:36:00] Kanabit/rizon from my job, what if someone finds it, and turns it into my work place

[04:36:03] Kanabit/rizon I'll be in trouble

[04:36:24] Kanabit/rizon although I doubt it anyone would care, they just take the phone and keep it or throw it away I think

[04:36:50] Kanabit/rizon it will be a sacrificed phone, I don't care if I lose this phone

[04:37:11] Kanabit/rizon I can probably delete the google account, there is nothing personal on there.

[04:37:38] Kanabit/rizon fake name

[04:38:30] Kanabit/rizon or they could call google or email support or still turn on wifi, I will wait

[04:39:24] Kanabit/rizon they could call my tracfone carrier hmm not sure

[04:41:29] Kanabit/rizon LOL

[04:41:41] Kanabit/rizon oh that's all I need is the cops contacting me

[04:42:25] Kanabit/rizon I suppose I can contact my carrier and let them know the situation

[04:43:07] Kanabit/rizon oh wait a second, I did take a picture

[04:43:16] Kanabit/rizon a note

[04:43:36] Kanabit/rizon well, whatever lol

[04:46:06] Kanabit/rizon that does bring a interesting question, if someone turns it into the police, well they look through the phone without a warrant?

[04:50:07] Kanabit/rizon you know speaking of phones

[04:50:16] Kanabit/rizon the iphone is a real shitty phone

[04:51:11] Kanabit/rizon why does a $300 phone only have only have a 12mp camera?

[04:51:31] Kanabit/rizon iphonese 2022 3rd generation

[04:52:24] Kanabit/rizon Samsung galaxy A14 which is $129 phone at least have 50mp

[05:02:06] Kanabit/rizon Sure it has a better processor

[05:02:28] Kanabit/rizon !rules

[05:02:40] Kanabit/rizon What are the rules of the channel?

[05:08:46] Kanabit/rizon I'll buy the phone then

[05:41:22] Kanabit/rizon Peorth, I'm curious although, what is the theory as to why they didn't make it at least 50mp ? What theory do you have?

[12:51:12] Kanabit/rizon "WEA-capable mobile devices in that zone can receive the alert," "WEA allows government officials to send emergency alerts to all subscribers with WEA-capable devices if their wireless carrier participates in the program." "To receive a WEA message, your handset must be WEA-capable, switched on, not on "airplane mode," and in the vicinity of and receiving service from a cell tower of a

[12:51:12] Kanabit/rizon wireless carrier that participates in WEA."

[12:52:20] Kanabit/rizon It is possible to send an alert to a smart phone that is turned on. It will make a noise, I may able to find a smart phone. But it's only the FCC government that can do it?

[12:52:34] Kanabit/rizon Anyone know how they do this?

[12:53:40] Kanabit/rizon I'm just looking at all possiblities to find my smart phone

[12:53:54] Kanabit/rizon yes

[12:54:31] Kanabit/rizon Yes, I have that feature, if someone were to turn on wifi on my phone, google can track the phone. But it's only when and if someone turns on the wifi

[12:55:18] Kanabit/rizon yournamehere, wait how did you do it?

[12:55:52] Kanabit/rizon 4/5 g, well my smart phone has not activated a service yet

[12:56:56] Kanabit/rizon I think the last two methods are software that uses "Location Based Service" LBS, do you know where I can find this software?

[12:57:26] Kanabit/rizon my smart phone will have maybe 2 more days left before the battery dies

[12:58:40] Kanabit/rizon Mikoolo, I used google find my phone have the account logged in.

[12:59:00] Kanabit/rizon Frogorg, how do I make it make this awful noise?

[12:59:09] Kanabit/rizon oh blue tooth, maybe that's enabled by default

[13:01:01] Kanabit/rizon looking

[13:01:56] Kanabit/rizon Mikoolo, I cant find that what I see is play sound, secure device, erase device

[13:02:22] Kanabit/rizon I'll go to google maps,

[13:02:40] Kanabit/rizon when I try that it says connecting, never connects

[13:02:47] Kanabit/rizon but I'm going to google maps

[13:03:54] Kanabit/rizon alright I'm on my timeline, Mikoolo, what's next?

[13:04:12] Kanabit/rizon Frogorg, it's not connected to the internet. Internet is off

[13:04:56] Kanabit/rizon picked Nov 7

[13:05:16] Kanabit/rizon Frogorg, it has no cell phone service yet activated

[13:05:51] Kanabit/rizon not seeing that

[13:06:33] Kanabit/rizon let me check that setting on another exact phone I have

[13:07:04] Kanabit/rizon It's interesting, the default feature has the "location set on off"

[13:07:21] Kanabit/rizon it was default off by default, darn

[13:07:43] Kanabit/rizon I wonder if bluetooth is on by default, let me check

[13:08:32] Kanabit/rizon "Emergency Location Service" is on by default

[13:10:04] Kanabit/rizon Call the phone, it has no number tied to it hmm?

[13:10:31] Kanabit/rizon Mikoolo, wait I think there is a sim card in the phone by default

[13:11:26] Kanabit/rizon this type of a phone probably has already one in, it's just that you have to set it up with a phone number.

[13:11:37] Kanabit/rizon Mikoolo, well still working on retracing my steps

[13:12:03] Kanabit/rizon Blu B131DL

[13:13:41] Kanabit/rizon Still FCC has a WEA system that can send out a alert to all smart phones and they make a noise, aslong as the phone is on, and not in airplane mode

[13:15:16] Kanabit/rizon LBS Location based service, I wonder if there is special software, the claim is it's not as accurate as other

[13:17:08] Kanabit/rizon https://www.techtarget.com/searchnetworking/definition/location-based-service-LBS

[13:18:37] Kanabit/rizon "mobile network"

[13:20:55] Kanabit/rizon I can still make a call on it an emergency mode. So therefore, it is still tracked via cell phone towers

[13:21:26] Kanabit/rizon regardless if you have a cell phone service connected

[13:23:16] Kanabit/rizon Well, Frogorg, not tracked

[13:23:25] Kanabit/rizon I'm not saying tracked

[13:24:18] Kanabit/rizon Frogorg, I don't need to trac the phone, I want to have the phone make a noise

[13:26:21] Kanabit/rizon I'm talking about the WEA alerts

[13:26:45] Kanabit/rizon gives a signal and vibration.

[13:28:31] Kanabit/rizon Mikoolo, yeah, I guess it's possible for the government to do it

[13:29:13] Kanabit/rizon well, it's $30

[13:29:46] Kanabit/rizon There is kind of a personal piece of information on it

[13:29:55] Kanabit/rizon Worries me a little bit

[13:35:05] Kanabit/rizon bluetooth scanner app "This kind of app detects and lists all Bluetooth devices broadcasting nearby."

[13:40:41] Kanabit/rizon Wait it is on by default

[13:41:10] Kanabit/rizon So it's true bluetooth is on by default on these phones

[13:41:58] Kanabit/rizon Wait, how do I track all bluetooth devices?

[13:43:13] Kanabit/rizon I may have got lucky here

[13:56:21] Kanabit/rizon sigh

[14:02:53] Kanabit/rizon even though blue tooth is on by default on these phones, the blue tooth scanner is not detecting them. That's odd

[14:08:49] Kanabit/rizon oh no, even if bluetooth is enabled, location services still had to be enabled :(

[14:15:30] Kanabit/rizon wait a second

[14:17:03] Kanabit/rizon yeah?

[14:28:06] Kanabit/rizon I can't figure out why blutooth scanner doesn't detect these phone even with blutooth enabled and evne with location services on. I have all the blutooth addresses

[14:29:03] Kanabit/rizon Mikoolo, are you there? are you there?

[14:30:33] Kanabit/rizon well, I'm not an expert on bluetooth

[15:49:06] Kanabit/rizon Location services did not have to be turn on, for phone to be detected. My carrier has indicated that bluetooth is on by default. "I went to bluetooth" did not change a setting. I found a phone.

[15:49:48] Kanabit/rizon Why is it a bluetooth phone that is on by default cannot be found. But no real setting change can finally find a phone? How odd.

[15:51:09] Kanabit/rizon I'm not sure what causes the phone to finally detect the phone.

[15:51:33] Kanabit/rizon but blutooth is on by default. And phone can't be found. I'm expermienting with those phone

[15:51:40] Kanabit/rizon okay let me see

[15:53:06] Kanabit/rizon no, I mean I have a blu tooth scanner

[15:53:25] Kanabit/rizon it wont find this model of a phone and yet the phone is blutooth on by default

[15:54:16] Kanabit/rizon yeah, with that app

[15:54:24] Kanabit/rizon what's that app called?

[15:55:30] Kanabit/rizon bluetooth scanner Zoltan

[15:55:54] Kanabit/rizon the app is the scanner

[15:56:04] Kanabit/rizon zof, yes, I wonder if there are better ones

[15:56:54] Kanabit/rizon zof, thanks

[15:57:02] Kanabit/rizon mikoolo, don't worry I'm almost done

[15:57:14] Kanabit/rizon in 3 days when the phones turns off automatically I'll probably give up

[15:57:39] Kanabit/rizon Mikoolo, the point is, if I get a very expensive blu tooth device finder. It maybe possible to find it

[15:57:46] Kanabit/rizon maybe not

[15:58:18] Kanabit/rizon Mikoolo, well maybe I can return it

[15:58:52] Kanabit/rizon zof, well, I'm running a test first. I have test phones with the same model

[15:59:30] Kanabit/rizon zof, I hate losing things. It's a pet peeve

[16:00:15] Kanabit/rizon and with a phone, that makes me kind of nervous

[16:02:26] Kanabit/rizon I should just have a camera in my room. That way I would know for sure if I did lose it in my room.

[16:02:48] Kanabit/rizon nah

[16:03:00] Kanabit/rizon exactly

[16:07:41] Kanabit/rizon No internet, that would suck

[16:07:57] Kanabit/rizon I always need internet

[16:10:57] Kanabit/rizon Mikoolo, what do you think the reason is they put that iphone only at 12mp instead of 50mp? I mean MP doesn't mean everything on a phone. I get that, but why have it so low is my honest question. I wonder if I can contact them to ask

[16:11:22] Kanabit/rizon I mean that starts out as a $350 phone

[16:11:45] Kanabit/rizon to a consumer it could look a little bad

[16:11:53] Kanabit/rizon maybe to a stupid consumer like myself

[16:12:52] Kanabit/rizon Well, you missed the point of the conversation

[16:13:06] Kanabit/rizon someone did

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