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[14:13:34] ski/rizon meow

[14:14:09] ski/rizon grüß gott, ct !

[14:15:18] ski/rizon kkawg : fermented (baltic) herring

[14:16:21] ski/rizon no

[14:19:59] ski/rizon teddybearcell : "news related" in which sense ?

[14:21:05] ski/rizon teddybearcell : .. there are some Libera channels which are pretty heavily research focused (as in researchers (and enthusiasts) hang out there)

[14:22:40] ski/rizon (dunno about any one for more general research areas, though. and still not sure what you means by "news related" -- you mean news for research in some area, or research about news, or what ?)

[14:25:17] ski/rizon (coffee in cakes, or chocolate, is okay)

[14:26:05] ski/rizon (.. as a kid, i have eaten some dry cat food, multiple times)

[14:27:14] ski/rizon i used to want sugar (or honey, preferably), in tea .. i've learned to drink it black, though

[14:27:21] ski/rizon (preferably not too weak)

[14:29:13] ski/rizon ("lagom" is sometimes translated as "just right", no ?)

[14:32:01] ski/rizon why ?

[14:32:24] ski/rizon a rope sounds pretty painful

[14:32:35] ski/rizon (especially if you don't snap your neck)

[14:32:46] ski/rizon pannkaka = pankakes ?

[14:33:23] ski/rizon pannkaka : ever tried main course (that is, non-sweet, but savory), pancakes ?

[14:34:04] ski/rizon ComputerTech : "libera staff can be restrictive" -- there was a niceish conversation about that, in #libera, yesterday

[14:35:25] ski/rizon ComputerTech : not really any resolution. but someone was lamenting old Freenode days, and "focusing on avoiding bad, rather than fostering good". it was nice to get some of the viewpoints aired about the topic (and it didn't get heated, thankfully)

[14:36:40] ski/rizon teddybearcell : "Is it against the rules to mass invite people to Rizon on other servers?" -- usually netops frown upon such behaviour, i believe. to lesser or greater extent

[14:37:35] ski/rizon teddybearcell : but yea, if you spam people to join some other network, that could potentially result in you getting K-lined. depending on network, asking nicely might work

[14:38:12] ski/rizon teddybearcell : .. some networks don't allow even mentioning over networks (including in PM, checked by some bot) (speaking from experience, here)

[14:39:23] ski/rizon teddybearcell : "infiltrating Facebook groups" does sound potentially helpful, rescuing people .. assuming they're reasonable people, of course

[14:41:41] ski/rizon teddybearcell : re moderation, i generally found <https://web.archive.org/web/20210423231424/https://freenode.net/changuide>,<https://web.archive.org/web/20210505190612/https://freenode.net/catalysts> pretty nice advice, for the most part

[14:43:19] ski/rizon re being a people pleaser, i found "How To Stop Caring What People Think Of You" by Leo in 2014 at <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZm4B4foybM> nice. (haven't really watched their other content, so can't vouch for that)

[14:48:41] ski/rizon teddybearcell : in my first IRC channel (where i still participate, occasionally modding), the basic rule is more or less, "Be nice, or else.". do note that technical/topical channels tend to be somewhat different (with different modding needs and approaches), than social channels (although the boundary is fluid, to greater or lesser extent. there's not necessarily any single one right or w

[14:48:47] ski/rizon approach, there's room for different ways of doing it)

[14:49:44] ski/rizon teddybearcell : .. hard to say. might take a long time, might be quicker. be prepared to be patient, and to potentially reevaluate your approach

[14:50:02] ski/rizon teddybearcell : never tried anything like what you're considering, either

[14:50:17] ski/rizon and hiya, h4 :)

[14:51:30] ski/rizon teddybearcell : some new channels never take off (depending on the people involved, or the topic, or how it's presented, e.g.). some take a long time. some stay relatively small (perhaps less than twenty people) .. and that's also fine (at least for topical/technical channels)

[14:53:09] ski/rizon teddybearcell : for getting people unfamiliar with IRC into it, a webchat (say Kiwi perhaps) would almost surely help. you can point people to stand-alone (rather than browser-based) clients later, for people who seek that

[14:55:24] ski/rizon teddybearcell : advantage of using an existing larger network is that there's already a base of people there, that can help socialize people into, and explain, IRC culture to them. advantage of a smaller, possibly self-hosted, one, would be that you get to call all the shots yourself (but then you also need to worry about technical upkeep)

[14:56:33] ski/rizon teddybearcell : and (most) IRC networks allow anyone to create new channels, which is nice for encouraging people for organizing their interests, so you can be less hands-on

[14:57:20] ski/rizon (netops/ircops typically do stay out of individual channel drama, for a reason .. unless it's something which affects a larger portion of the network)

[14:59:32] ski/rizon teddybearcell : i mean, if you know the person isn't shy for installing new stand-alone programs, or even isn't terminal-shy, you could suggest a stand-alone client (like e.g. HexChat, or perhaps Irssi (terminal-based), &c. .. there's also mobile clients) .. but it probably wouldn't hurt to suggest a webchat to begin with, even then

[15:00:15] ski/rizon mrinfinity : aliens, speaking which language ?

[15:00:31] ski/rizon s/Into/Through/ ?

[15:02:14] ski/rizon people use phones to chat on IRC, yes

[15:03:11] ski/rizon mrinfinity ^

[15:10:57] ski/rizon ComputerTech : "i need a mac book" -- "So I hear you like 48-byte MACs: new_mac = strLeftBytes(6, HMAC_SHA256(k, iv_counter++)) // An HMAC MAC ;)" (or call it a HSN)

[15:12:07] ski/rizon ComputerTech's hat tips

[15:12:15] ski/rizon yeh, Mikoolo

[15:12:34] ski/rizon only in the larger cities ?

[15:13:24] ski/rizon i heard recently one of them said they were gonna try UK instead

[15:16:38] ski/rizon "L4/L5" being ?

[15:19:00] ski/rizon seems to no work in PM

[15:20:39] ski/rizon you could install an IRC display on the front of it, from this channel

[15:21:54] ski/rizon (like in "I traumatized Jackscepticeye with CURSED Korean phrases" by CodeMiko in 2021-04-22 at <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDmi_6dPARw>, except, you know, from IRC rather than stream chat)

[18:53:07] ski/rizon .tr de en verklempt

[18:56:23] ski/rizon verklempt 1. (US, colloquial) Overcome with emotion, choked up. 2. (US, colloquial) Flustered, nervous, overwhelmed.

[18:56:55] ski/rizon Borrowed from Yiddish פֿאַרקלעמט‎ (farklemt, “depressed, distraught; choked up”), cognate to German verklemmt (“inhibited; hemmed in, squeezed”).

[19:03:51] ski/rizon don't call names ..

[19:03:54] ski/rizon .. call nicks ?

[19:07:15] ski/rizon two of who ?

[19:08:18] ski/rizon Mikoolo : whu would them refer to themselves as "you", though ?

[19:08:38] ski/rizon oh .. i guess one of them was talking about the other one, maybe ?

[19:09:31] ski/rizon (such a wise statement requires promotion)

[19:11:13] ski/rizon Mikoolo : is that really fish, though ? .. i know the jar's there and all, but it looks like maybe .. something else ?

[19:11:34] ski/rizon Mikoolo : the jar/can, yes

[19:11:52] ski/rizon but on the plate, might as well be lightly fried chicken, no ?

[19:12:36] ski/rizon h4 : not painted blue, like the picts (scotland) ?

[19:14:46] ski/rizon [Rizon] -!- #abasement: No such channel

[19:16:08] ski/rizon metal

[19:18:47] ski/rizon he's deadly

[19:22:25] ski/rizon the akoshA chronicles are hovering over the channel

[19:23:39] ski/rizon how was it ?

[19:24:57] ski/rizon nah, h4, akoshA's okay, in my book

[19:25:00] ski/rizon .. or maybe not okay, per se, but good enough

[19:25:10] ski/rizon Pankekistan ?

[19:25:30] ski/rizon i guess

[19:33:02] ski/rizon if you get (black) birds, you chould call them Hugin and Munin

[19:33:39] ski/rizon iirc, there's a lot of people with irish descent, on Iceland, on the maternal line

[19:34:07] ski/rizon vikings were mostly pillaging, when going west. going east, they were more trading

[19:35:01] ski/rizon Ahsoka : hm, interesting

[19:35:33] ski/rizon how's "aoife" pronounced ?

[19:35:48] ski/rizon .. figures

[19:37:14] ski/rizon Mikoolo : you should show that band singing about spirits

[19:40:21] ski/rizon pankakes,Mikoolo : ah, "Vodka" by Korpiklaani in 2009-07-12 at <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7kJRGPgvRQ> was it .. or "Tequila" 2011-01-10 <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoLmeOBn4ck>, or "Jägermeister" 2019-12-06 <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fH0hHZkCJ8>

[19:47:41] ski/rizon (also, i preferred when it was called PLT Scheme)

[19:49:00] ski/rizon <http://www.barzilay.org/random/CS212.html>,<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PLT_Scheme>

[19:49:08] ski/rizon Mikoolo ^

[19:51:42] ski/rizon per "Appendix C. Delimiting a URI in Context", in "Uniform Resource Identifier (URI): Generic Syntax" (RFC 3986) by the World Wide Web Consortium, IETF, &c. in 2005-01 at <https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3986#appendix-C>

[19:51:47] ski/rizon Mikoolo ^

[19:51:52] ski/rizon yea ... i'm aware

[19:52:30] ski/rizon a lot of Scheme implementations have joke names, like Larceny, Guile, Racket, Gauche, Stalin, IronScheme, ..

[19:53:14] ski/rizon ("Guessing it prevents link preview in some clients" -- that's just a bonus. i started getting into the habit, long before i noticed bots that would try to provide title)

[19:53:52] ski/rizon well, it's a whole-program optimizer (so anti-modular, no separate compilation) .. so, it takes a lot of time, for a largish program

[19:55:04] ski/rizon "URIs are often transmitted through formats that do not provide a clear context for their interpretation. For example, there are many occasions when a URI is included in plain text; examples include text sent in email, USENET news, and on printed paper. In such cases, it is important to be able to delimit the URI from the rest of the text, and in particular from punctuation marks that mig

[19:55:10] ski/rizon mistaken for part of the URI.

[19:55:30] ski/rizon In practice, URIs are delimited in a variety of ways, but usually within double-quotes "http://example.com/", angle brackets <http://example.com/>, or just by using whitespace: http://example.com/

[19:55:34] ski/rizon .. and so on

[19:55:36] ski/rizon (you get the point)

[19:57:39] ski/rizon Mikoolo : ahh .. nice ! :)

[19:57:50] ski/rizon Mikoolo : reminds me someone else mentioned "Wellerman Sea Shanty In Classical LATIN (Vocal Bardcore)" by Vaerko in 2021-08-29 at <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUhd4GzJvmg> to me, the other week

[19:58:30] ski/rizon .. habit ?

[19:58:53] ski/rizon i do that with references to research articles, blags, &c. as well

[20:22:17] ski/rizon it's eponymous

[20:24:51] ski/rizon it's a night fly

[20:25:11] ski/rizon with fish on it ?

[20:25:30] ski/rizon what's in the salsa ?

[20:25:37] ski/rizon bouncy notes ?

[20:27:03] ski/rizon it's fine, Jax

[20:27:09] ski/rizon also heya

[20:28:27] ski/rizon Syndus : "Xanadu" by Ümmet Özcan at <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uMtnH7cABg> doesn't sound too bad

[20:29:34] ski/rizon re exercising, Jax ?

[20:29:53] ski/rizon what happened to the old hip ?

[20:30:26] ski/rizon i heard hip replacement is expensive

[20:32:03] ski/rizon Chiester : nice illustration

[20:32:56] ski/rizon "tha sou balo ta duo podia de ena papoutsi" ?

[20:33:12] ski/rizon (something like that. i don't know greek, though)

[20:35:02] ski/rizon Jax : you'll save if you pay it all of now, i assume

[20:35:30] ski/rizon and money ?

[20:35:51] ski/rizon also might lead to less worrying, i suppose

[20:37:22] ski/rizon (that Ümmet Özcan one reminded me of this)

[20:38:38] ski/rizon \g : apparently, i was the same, as a babe

[20:39:34] ski/rizon my family had some syriac refugees temporarily living at our house, at that time .. they'd take turns, carrying me around

[20:41:02] ski/rizon Mikoolo : yea .. my mum had one of those, i think

[20:41:15] ski/rizon (although .. just for smaller babes, not as large)

[20:42:19] ski/rizon \g : you could go out in nature with the babe ?

[20:43:09] ski/rizon what's crashing ?

[20:43:18] ski/rizon hope not your mood

[20:43:27] ski/rizon meep

[20:45:21] ski/rizon ComputerTech : .. for a moment, i thought you were referring to Battlezone

[20:46:37] ski/rizon \g : too bad :/

[20:48:33] ski/rizon Mikoolo : that's a chill cat

[20:49:05] ski/rizon Harzilein : Ma petite chemin de fer.

[20:54:06] ski/rizon /mode #computertech +I ComputerTech!*@*

[20:54:09] ski/rizon .. didn't work

[20:54:37] ski/rizon hm, i suppose

[20:57:40] ski/rizon hm, pankakes didn't reappear after the kick, earlier

[20:58:01] ski/rizon i suppose

[20:58:30] ski/rizon some might think it'd look cute

[20:59:07] ski/rizon .. hm ?

[20:59:43] ski/rizon why not ?

[21:00:01] ski/rizon you have to remember, this is ComputerTech we're talking about

[21:01:18] ski/rizon (closed with a stubborn cork)

[21:02:30] ski/rizon .. it was .. tiring

[21:05:30] ski/rizon hm .. apparently it just fell off the far end of my backlog buffer

[21:05:56] ski/rizon a gent-in-waiting

[21:06:52] ski/rizon -!- pankakes was kicked from #computertech by Rizon [sacrilege against pizza (\g)]

[21:09:07] ski/rizon can it both open and close you ?

[21:09:34] ski/rizon noted

[21:17:42] ski/rizon (caturday ?)

[21:32:57] ski/rizon careful what you ask him for

[21:33:50] ski/rizon five pancakes, with minced mackarel in tomato sauce, inbetween, with some dill and basil

[23:01:12] ski/rizon drwho : nice CCC talk about the train DRM

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