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Thursday, January 11, 2024

[13:25:18] ski/rizon ComputerTech : "color" is the way i learned it

[13:25:55] ski/rizon i didn't even realize there was another way to spell it, when i got a wrong mark for it, in school

[13:29:08] ski/rizon "color" was how the Commodore 128 spelled it, so obviously it was the correct spelling

[13:32:38] ski/rizon (monday is day 1. sunday is day 0)

[13:37:02] ski/rizon more astrological i think, but sure

[13:40:37] ski/rizon Egypt divided day and night into 24 hours. in Alexandria (cosmopolitan, where many greek settled, and also had trade ties to India), this combines with zodiac, and the "seven planets". each hour of the week got assigned a planet. 24 is not divisible by seven, you get a remainder three, so for each nychthemeron (night and day), you just three steps forward in the cyclic list of planets. the

[13:40:43] ski/rizon each nychtheme

[13:42:27] ski/rizon nychthemeron got assigned to the whole one, from there we got : the sun (sunday), the moon (monday), mars (tuesday, Tyr), wednesday (Oden/Wotan/Mercury), thursday (Thor/Zeus/Indra), friday (Freya/Afrodite), saturday (Washing/Saturn)

[13:44:00] ski/rizon (the gods in the hindu pantheon also come in here, but i'm not as familiar with these. Indra is the god of thunder, anyway)

[13:44:57] ski/rizon btw, iirc, Bhutan is off-by-one to the rest of the world. they have monday when the rest of the world has sunday (or perhaps it was the other way around, can't recall exactly)

[13:45:15] ski/rizon obviously, they insist that they are correct, and the rest of the world is incorrecyt

[13:46:12] ski/rizon hyvää päivää, mrinfinity

[13:47:07] ski/rizon mrinfinity : "it's because 0 to 1 counts as 1" -- it's about whether to count completed units, or begun units. a whole lot of indian calendars start indexing various cycles at zero rather than one, btw

[13:47:43] ski/rizon you say "i'm fifteen winters old", because you count how many winters you survived. this is zero-based

[13:48:11] ski/rizon but yes, zero-based tends to make more sense, when there is a difference

[13:48:43] ski/rizon occasionally, there are situations where one-based makes more sense (numbering nodes in a heap binary tree, stored in an array)

[13:48:48] ski/rizon as in India

[13:50:10] ski/rizon they also tend to be sideral rather than tropical calendars, more often (as opposed to the rest of the world, which is mostly tropical), due to their focus on (obsession with) astrology (although the Chinese also have their astrology) : tropical means that you measure wrt the sun, sideral means that you measure wrt the stars

[13:51:03] ski/rizon they're almost the same, the difference only starts to be notices after about 2600 years or so, when the sign in the zodiac has drifted by one star sign, due to precessional shift

[13:51:36] ski/rizon as far as we know, people only discovered that there was a difference here, around 200 years before christ

[13:51:50] ski/rizon (some greek astronomers, forgot names)

[13:52:34] ski/rizon (of course, there's astrology in the book of the revelations, btw)

[13:53:30] ski/rizon (and people in europe, in the medieval ages, were aware of, and accepted astrology, basically, at that time. but it wasn't a matter of personal horoscopes, it was at the levels of states, and heads of state, mostly. and the pope too, obviously)

[13:57:04] ski/rizon John Dee was the famous astrologer of Queen Elizabeth I. he had a "shewing stone" with which he (in collaboration with another guy) though he could scry (clairvoyance), and also communicate with the angels

[13:57:23] ski/rizon he was quite interested in alchemy, and hermeticism

[13:59:27] ski/rizon ah, Edward Kelley was the name of the man he found, to help him with the shew-stone. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Kelley>

[14:15:59] ski/rizon goeie more

[14:18:21] ski/rizon guess it could feel like dancing on his grave, to her

[14:20:15] ski/rizon Angel's an angel

[14:39:37] ski/rizon isn't mimosa a salad ?

[14:40:10] ski/rizon oh

[14:40:56] ski/rizon ic

[17:07:44] ski/rizon (in tomato sauce)

[17:08:24] ski/rizon non-heated, of course

[17:59:10] ski/rizon nun, ComputerTech

[17:59:41] ski/rizon oof you go, ComputerTech ?

[18:00:08] ski/rizon it's been down for some time, sadly

[18:01:08] ski/rizon <b34sh.org>

[18:03:09] ski/rizon Fensta : misspalled "l4m2R" ?

[18:03:58] ski/rizon generic as it for any IRC network ?

[19:20:26] ski/rizon (you deny ones preferring male ?)

[19:25:10] ski/rizon ComputerTech : i guess "Milky Booba Stomps More Prints" <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6c9OXzcCMk>, then ..

[19:33:12] ski/rizon "The city is therefore considered the rainiest city in Europe, although it is not the wettest \"place\" on the continent." <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bergen>

[19:34:29] ski/rizon i believe ComputerTech doesn't care much for catholic girls

[19:36:14] ski/rizon eat some raw turnips, ComputerTech ?

[19:45:59] ski/rizon • Mystery of Incarnation

[19:46:06] ski/rizon Imagine that Petrucchio has an appointment with Catarina whom he didn't see for a long time. Since he has no idea as to her present behaviour, he brings with him a bunch of flowers. . . and a whip. Depending on her behaviour :

[19:46:12] ski/rizon A nice girl : Gives the flowers, and forgets the whip.

[19:46:16] ski/rizon A bitch : Flowers are good for nothing, uses the whip.

[19:46:21] ski/rizon Depends on the wheather : Keeps both items.

[19:46:29] ski/rizon The three cases correspond to the thee behaviours N,B,N & B, in the first case the incarnation of your gift is 𝔉, in the second case it is 𝔚, in the third it is 𝔉 ∪ 𝔚. Hence your reified (material) design of the third case is the Cartesian product of the first two cases.

[19:46:37] ski/rizon See : Incarnation, Locative product.

[19:46:40] ski/rizon -- from the glossary "Appendix A. A pure waste of paper" of "Locus Solum : From the rules of logic to the logic of rules" by Jean-Yves Girard in 2001 at <https://girard.perso.math.cnrs.fr/0.pdf>

[19:48:44] ski/rizon (Girard is a famous logician, discoverer of linear logic, in the 1980s)

[19:49:20] ski/rizon it sounds like it's an abbreviation of something, ComputerTech

[19:50:42] ski/rizon volunteering what, mrinfinity ?

[19:51:20] ski/rizon Mikoolo : anyway, trying to subtly tempt people into stydying logic, from the present discussion ..

[19:51:47] ski/rizon sounds nice, mrinfinity

[19:52:30] ski/rizon mrinfinity : it seems there's too much of everything, kinda ..

[19:54:47] ski/rizon mrinfinity : more fake if the "AI" outcompetes the "real deal"

[19:54:55] ski/rizon nothing much

[19:56:09] ski/rizon daniel : perhaps some people were inspired ?

[20:07:10] ski/rizon don't you drink coffee ?

[20:07:25] ski/rizon well, or tea

[20:08:36] ski/rizon wossat ?

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