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[00:14:20] ski/rizon wossat ?/ll_new flying

[00:31:40] ski/rizon .. might help to lure some people into retro computing, perhaps

[00:58:17] ski/rizon TheFatherMind : probably healthy

[03:27:45] ski/rizon nn

[03:30:31] ski/rizon mrinfinity : any insight into Marjory Stewart-Baxter ?

[03:41:19] ski/rizon oh. sorry then, carry on

[04:43:58] ski/rizon mrinfinity : sorry to hear about your mom

[04:44:07] ski/rizon Syndus : good to hear he's doing better

[04:44:13] ski/rizon (what does "f" mean ?)

[04:44:43] ski/rizon ty

[04:45:01] ski/rizon (i've seen it mentioned before, and probably also seen it some stream chat, but didn't know what it meant)

[04:50:55] ski/rizon mhm

[04:51:10] ski/rizon ("cow-pasture" meaning it's relatively tranquil, not that much happening ?)

[04:53:49] ski/rizon good evening

[05:01:08] ski/rizon no bef

[05:17:44] ski/rizon ah, ic

[05:23:55] ski/rizon i believe building community, especially locally, is part of the solution, yes

[05:25:10] ski/rizon people acting makes waves

[05:26:30] ski/rizon families, communities, associations, regions, interest groups, &c. have a fractal, nested, nature

[05:27:14] ski/rizon people are affected more by good examples than one may realize

[05:28:15] ski/rizon that's also setting a good example

[05:28:38] ski/rizon good followers are needed as much as good leaders

[05:29:34] ski/rizon making oneself useful is a good practice

[05:30:07] ski/rizon i used to volunteer a bit, at a local bike kitchen, also colocated with a hacker space, and some other activities

[05:31:26] ski/rizon .. however, they then had to move to a worse location, and that location no longer exists now. there's one or a few more, smaller, locations that they spawned, but that's further away from where i frequent, so i don't tend to get there as often. when i do, i still try to stick around a bit more and help or just socialize

[05:32:09] ski/rizon getting physical, or interacting face-to-face, is something else, yea

[05:32:48] ski/rizon i've experienced most bliss, when i've been helping people, focusing on them, forgetting myself

[05:33:18] ski/rizon i'm an introvert, so i don't as easily socialize. but i've learned, in maybe last eight years, that i can enjoy it

[05:33:40] ski/rizon so .. i don't think it sounds weird, no

[05:36:30] ski/rizon what kind of stuff are you going to volunteer with ?

[05:37:07] ski/rizon i do ?

[05:37:37] ski/rizon unlike some other times ?

[05:38:01] ski/rizon what would you do with fire department ? perhaps you don't know yet

[05:38:03] ski/rizon oh

[05:39:12] ski/rizon well .. i have more explicitly tried to practice patience, for perhaps the last fifteen years or so. and a bit later, more gradually, also more stuff, like patience, temperance, tolerance, equanimity, unconcern, imperviousness, moderation, &c.

[05:39:27] ski/rizon (amongst other things)

[05:41:28] ski/rizon you might not find what fits, immediately. but reaching out, will probably make it more likely to find something you can be of use with. and some people might take notice, perhaps suggest or mention something else

[05:42:01] ski/rizon (and i was relatively patient, to begin with, i'd say)

[06:20:35] ski/rizon meow

[06:21:25] ski/rizon listening to a little music, feeling wistful

[06:22:35] ski/rizon Godsmack, and Tarja

[06:28:22] ski/rizon crystallovely : well, perhaps you could try "Lonely" in 2018-12-21 at <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vzMmfQlBH4>,"Innocence" in 2019-05-31 at <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBsqrLySseU>, both by Nathan Wagner ?

[06:29:44] ski/rizon crystallovely : feel what, at a café ? you were at a café recently ?

[06:30:03] ski/rizon sorry, the mission ?

[06:30:11] ski/rizon mhm

[06:31:23] ski/rizon "seeit was ? you." -- how do you mean ?

[06:32:42] ski/rizon (just recently someone (forgot whom, although i think it was in here) mentioned that Godsmack song, and i guess i was still trying to listen to it a bit)

[06:34:03] ski/rizon crystallovely : i guess one could say those songs were about the self (the last one also about relation to others)

[06:45:50] ski/rizon oh, i got sandwich as well

[06:52:20] ski/rizon El Cid ?

[07:09:02] ski/rizon i'd assume natives notice i'm not a native english speaker, as well

[07:10:48] ski/rizon Ice` : boeuf ?

[07:11:07] ski/rizon yes, it's the accent i meant

[07:13:01] ski/rizon jawohl

[07:14:17] ski/rizon yeap

[07:14:42] ski/rizon (Joan of Lorraine, and all that)

[07:15:57] ski/rizon François Bourgeon has a nice series of three comic albums, "Les Compagnons du Crépuscule", taking place at the time of the hundred years war

[07:19:07] ski/rizon nini, pleasant dreams

[07:22:46] ski/rizon you freeze them ?

[07:25:15] ski/rizon prov ?

[07:28:28] ski/rizon sounds interesting

[08:28:44] ski/rizon ("pig out" ?)

[08:32:13] ski/rizon i've heard some people say they may get nightmares, if they eat spicy food

[08:32:52] ski/rizon mhm

[09:20:19] ski/rizon lo

[09:29:16] ski/rizon hum .. sun's shining. unexpected

[11:11:19] ski/rizon ComputerTech : you need zinc and copper, too

[11:14:16] ski/rizon who's the goat ?

[11:15:48] ski/rizon (in "Cadaver: The Last Supper", taking place somewhere called the "Ziegenhoff")

[11:16:25] ski/rizon (iirc, developed by "Soldiers of Hell", rather than Bitmap Brothers / Bruderbund)

[11:16:56] ski/rizon how chilly is it, ComputerTech ?

[11:20:44] ski/rizon then they'll be surprised when you succeed with something

[11:33:02] ski/rizon ComputerTech : made any snow grotto ?

[11:33:22] ski/rizon yea, but excavated

[11:33:35] ski/rizon from a pile of large snow boulders

[11:34:21] ski/rizon (with gloves, obviously)

[11:34:48] ski/rizon (iirc, there's a level in Quake called "Grisly Grotto" ?)

[11:35:49] ski/rizon how old were you at the time, Mikoolo ?

[11:36:35] ski/rizon guess i was around that age, as well

[11:36:48] ski/rizon except one time, later, when i showed my nephew how to do it

[11:37:51] ski/rizon we had a villa, with a largish garden

[11:37:56] ski/rizon (not on the countryside)

[11:41:15] ski/rizon bonjour, sushi-chan

[11:41:36] ski/rizon hope you're feeling well, today

[11:42:09] ski/rizon a bit hungry, but fine, ty

[11:43:22] ski/rizon you've no snow there, i'm assuming, sushi-chan

[11:44:07] ski/rizon how about Central Masif ?

[11:44:17] ski/rizon or Haute-Compte ?

[11:45:17] ski/rizon sushi-chan : Mikoolo linked to <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcDFgir_jgY>, just before your entry

[11:46:11] ski/rizon did you get to play around in the snow, as a kid ?

[11:46:29] ski/rizon sand is however not cool in the dessert

[11:46:43] ski/rizon (except if it's icecream, perhaps)

[11:47:09] ski/rizon allo Ice`

[11:47:30] ski/rizon in onion there's strength

[11:48:12] ski/rizon well, there's been toad rains, and fish rains

[11:48:20] ski/rizon sure

[11:48:35] ski/rizon probably not that

[11:48:37] ski/rizon at least not commonly

[11:49:08] ski/rizon though, some spiders climb up into a high tree, let out a spider thread, let it be captured by the wind, and then travel some kilmetres with the wind

[11:50:23] ski/rizon anyway, a tornado can sometimes move out over water, and suck up some amount of water, e.g. including frogs, toads, or schools of fish .. and then later deposit them somewhere else

[11:50:35] ski/rizon it's not that common, but it happens

[11:50:50] ski/rizon Charles Fort spent many years documenting strange things, like that

[11:51:09] ski/rizon never heard of tornado picking up diarrhea

[11:51:36] ski/rizon no, whirlpool is the water going out the sink/bathtub

[11:51:49] ski/rizon or, sometimes in the sea (outside the coast of Norway is one famous one, iirc)

[11:52:02] ski/rizon perhaps near Saint Malo, as well

[11:52:25] ski/rizon yea, sand from Sahara is sometimes carried across the mediterranean

[11:52:35] ski/rizon land shark, Ice`

[11:53:55] ski/rizon a slark ?

[11:54:29] ski/rizon a flumeride could have shark tunnels, i guess

[11:56:08] ski/rizon (and the `['s as well, i guess)

[11:56:36] ski/rizon hm, is that bonne anne or somesuch ?

[11:57:59] ski/rizon hm, yea, Anne was a queen, in the UK

[11:58:23] ski/rizon ici, Ice`

[11:58:35] ski/rizon (yea, i know "ici" doesn't mean "i see")

[11:58:55] ski/rizon "here", i think ?

[11:59:25] ski/rizon part of it takes place in Calais

[11:59:52] ski/rizon they had a few statues of Joan, in that level

[12:00:42] ski/rizon do you sometimes calle rain, "douche" ?

[12:01:27] ski/rizon right, Mikoolo

[12:01:59] ski/rizon there's a dependent programming language called Coq. named after Thierry (and Catarina) Coquand (and after his "Calculus of Constructions")

[12:02:08] ski/rizon (he's a nice chap)

[12:02:15] ski/rizon .. the name is also an innuendo

[12:03:10] ski/rizon then there's another one, a competitor, which's called "Agda", after a song "Agda the hen" (which is raunchy)

[12:03:42] ski/rizon .. and "Dick" is short for "Richard"

[12:04:06] ski/rizon "coke" isn't quite "cook"

[12:04:35] ski/rizon "cook" is like "book". "coke" is like "stoke" (e.g. "Stoke-on-Trent")

[12:05:05] ski/rizon "fermé" has to do with iron ?

[12:06:18] ski/rizon closed, okay

[12:06:47] ski/rizon .. i wonder what it is in latin

[12:07:48] ski/rizon it's a diphtong ?

[12:10:36] ski/rizon moi mukulat

[12:11:10] ski/rizon do you mean someone who tends to have cold hand and feet ?

[12:11:35] ski/rizon why not ice tetrahedron ?

[12:12:21] ski/rizon perhaps icosahedron would be better, Chiester, since Plato thought it had to do with the element of water

[12:13:31] ski/rizon big brain move, sushi-chan

[12:13:48] ski/rizon a period is not that big

[12:14:25] ski/rizon sushi-chan : some of them complain about too large mammary glands, though

[12:14:47] ski/rizon back pain, e.g.

[12:15:03] ski/rizon yea, breast reduction surgery is a thing

[12:15:20] ski/rizon it's not as common, but it happens

[12:16:01] ski/rizon i've not heard about people wanting brain size reduction

[12:16:26] ski/rizon have you ?

[12:17:04] ski/rizon apparently some people are born with a small brain inside the skull, though

[12:17:08] ski/rizon sometimes seriously small

[12:17:19] ski/rizon some appear to not really be affected much by that, though

[12:17:27] ski/rizon also, water skull

[12:17:39] ski/rizon yea, not talking about Down's, MRjar

[12:17:42] ski/rizon Mikoolo

[12:17:46] ski/rizon that's another thing

[12:18:05] ski/rizon well, you don't acquire it

[12:18:20] ski/rizon people with Down's are often very sweet and kind

[12:18:41] ski/rizon right

[12:19:24] ski/rizon i've heard some other kid mention it, Mikoolo, but i dunno the reference

[12:19:55] ski/rizon moment

[12:23:35] ski/rizon Mikoolo : did you see "På kurs med Kurt" ?

[12:26:30] ski/rizon pankakes : she'll be back, perhaps another day

[12:26:42] ski/rizon (she's an (ir)regular of the channel)

[12:27:02] ski/rizon sometimes she gets upset. don't take it personally

[12:27:37] ski/rizon Mikoolo : hm, not seen that one, no

[12:28:40] ski/rizon (she's also asexual .. as you may've gathered)

[12:29:10] ski/rizon anyway, she likes to joke around, relieve stress

[12:29:56] ski/rizon wb

[12:31:15] ski/rizon hope the courses go well

[12:31:31] ski/rizon chamomile ?

[12:31:54] ski/rizon how long did you abstain, last time ?

[12:32:35] ski/rizon too late, she's already drinking coffee

[12:33:00] ski/rizon hm. for some reason i thought you had gone for a couple of weeks, in the past, at least

[12:33:45] ski/rizon what if you'd stop using coffee, one day, every five days, or so ?

[12:34:43] ski/rizon perhaps you could try to find some other way to help calm you down

[12:35:51] ski/rizon aren't there caffeine plasters or somesuch ?

[12:36:08] ski/rizon mhm

[12:37:28] ski/rizon could you like go one day of the week, without coffee, sushi-chan ?

[12:37:49] ski/rizon half a day ?

[12:38:16] ski/rizon perhaps you should try to seek some professional opinion

[12:38:45] ski/rizon (another frenchie i used to chat with, used to say "ahah")

[12:39:53] ski/rizon or, perhaps there's some site or forum on the net, where you could seek advice, sushi-chan

[12:41:11] ski/rizon is it "centre" in Canada ?

[12:41:35] ski/rizon i believe it is

[12:44:47] ski/rizon (and really dislikes alcohol)

[12:45:20] ski/rizon sushi-chan : seek others who've been in the same place

[12:45:35] ski/rizon surely there must be some advice around

[12:46:20] ski/rizon you usually are, still

[12:46:35] ski/rizon just you get upset, get some mood swings, at times

[12:47:00] ski/rizon wez : not me, sushi-chan

[12:47:17] ski/rizon how to deal with excessive coffee ingestion

[12:49:21] ski/rizon it's just talking, iiuc

[12:49:30] ski/rizon (well, "just")

[12:50:01] ski/rizon .t en fr cognitive behaviour therapy

[12:51:08] ski/rizon it's okay

[12:51:21] ski/rizon you're kinda like family, here

[12:51:45] ski/rizon come back when you need to, or want to

[12:52:27] ski/rizon it's okay to come here, if you're upset

[12:52:44] ski/rizon don't mention it

[12:53:09] ski/rizon we're just worrying a little bit for you

[12:53:15] ski/rizon take care

[12:54:35] ski/rizon sushi-chan : perhaps also <https://www.healthfulchat.org/>

[12:54:44] ski/rizon it has some channels for anxiety, &c.

[12:54:49] ski/rizon sushi-chan : it's an IRC network, btw

[12:55:05] ski/rizon (most people connect using the webchat)

[12:55:11] ski/rizon irc.healthfulchat.org

[13:13:20] ski/rizon deadly perchance is forward

[20:56:30] ski/rizon Mikoolo : some vtubers are pretty transparent, i think

[21:04:26] ski/rizon back from ?

[21:04:36] ski/rizon kid's sleeping ?

[21:05:11] ski/rizon OEIS, i assume

[21:06:27] ski/rizon .cc {0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55,89,144...}

[21:06:35] ski/rizon no, wrong !

[21:06:52] ski/rizon everyone knows `F_0 = 0'

[21:07:39] ski/rizon \g : TeX

[21:07:51] ski/rizon what're you testing ?

[21:08:05] ski/rizon \g : fibonacci sequence element at index `0'

[21:08:28] ski/rizon no invoices ?

[21:11:31] ski/rizon jmjl : with `F_0 = 0', you get `F_(-n) = F_n', for odd `n', and `F_(-n) = -F_n', for even `n'. if you shift so you have `F_0 = 1', then you instead get `F_(-n) = -F_(n-1)' for odd `n', and `F_(-n) = F_(n-1)' for even `n', which is much uglier

[21:11:44] ski/rizon Mikoolo : well, i suppose so ?

[21:12:09] ski/rizon pancakes is nice made-up recipe

[21:12:24] ski/rizon ne'er 'eard o' 'em

[21:13:23] ski/rizon jmjl : basically, if you continue to the left of `0', instead of to the right, the sequence is mirrored, except every other element is negative. `0' is the natural central point, where stuff is mirrored

[21:13:47] ski/rizon ...,-8,5,-3,2,-1,1,0,1,1,2,3,5,8,...

[21:14:39] ski/rizon Mikoolo : oh, he commandeered his leage of charming bank robbers

[21:15:16] ski/rizon jmjl : the notation, sure. this mirroring, not really. something akin to that only happens for some sequences

[21:15:44] ski/rizon Mikoolo : haven't heard of him, either. i think i've heard the name "Tre Kronor", but never saw it

[21:16:02] ski/rizon jmjl : ah, generating functions

[21:16:38] ski/rizon also, it should really be `n |-> a_n', or `{a_n}_n', or just `a', if you prefer. not `a_n'. `a_n' is not the sequence, it's the `n'th element in the sequence `a'

[21:17:18] ski/rizon although, i guess the `G_n' could be considered as binding the `n' .. haven'ẗ seen that variant notation really, though

[21:18:03] ski/rizon aäbcdefghijklmnoöpqrsßtuüvwxyz

[21:18:37] ski/rizon jmjl : which function/sequence example is this ?

[21:19:07] ski/rizon mahabharata

[21:20:46] ski/rizon jmjl : that gives `0,1,4,5,8,9,12,13,...', yes ?

[21:21:28] ski/rizon autumnal equinoxe

[21:22:03] ski/rizon jmjl : iow, did they mean "if `n' odd", resp. "if `n' even" ?

[21:22:52] ski/rizon jmjl : oh, those were supposed to define two different sequences. i thought they intent was to use them to define a single sequence

[21:22:58] ski/rizon (it wasn't entirely clear)

[21:23:23] ski/rizon jmjl : and i'd say the first defines `-1,1,3,5,7,...', and the second `0,2,4,6,8,...'

[21:23:38] ski/rizon jmjl : since i start counting at zero, by default

[21:23:58] ski/rizon hunnu rock

[21:24:36] ski/rizon jmjl : "except in math" makes no sense, to me ;)

[21:25:27] ski/rizon jmjl : well .. that's strange

[21:25:58] ski/rizon jmjl : i know half of mathematicians are heathens, and don't count zero as a natural number ..

[21:26:15] ski/rizon jmjl : in the old bad days, they'd even consider one to be a prime number .. *shudder*

[21:27:50] ski/rizon yea, mrinfinity ?

[21:28:50] ski/rizon jmjl : yea, but that's the wrong definition. more experience with prime numbers shows that

[21:31:06] ski/rizon jmjl : a key property of prime numbers is that they're indivisible. if a prime number is a divisor/factor of a product, the whole prime number must be a divisor of one of the factors in the product. it's not possible for one part of the prime to be a divisor of one factor, and another part to be a divisor of another factor. e.g. `6' is a divisor of `4 * 9', but is neither a divisor of `4' n

[21:31:12] ski/rizon because `6 is not prime, can be divided/factored up into `2 * 3', where `2' divides `4', and `3' divides `9'

[21:33:25] ski/rizon jmjl : but if a prime `p' divides a product `a_0 * a_1 * ... * a_(n-1)', then there must be some factor `a_i' (with `0 =< i < n') that `p' divides. now, take the case `n = 0', an empty product. the empty product is `1'. so, if `p' divides `1', then there exists `i' with `0 =< i < 0' such that `p' divides `a_i'. but there is no `i' that's at least `0' and also less than `0', that's impossibl

[21:33:31] ski/rizon divisor of `1' is a prime. everything is a divisor of itself, so `1' (as well as `-1', btw) is not a prime

[21:36:38] ski/rizon hm, i've read Hagar the Horrible

[21:36:49] ski/rizon Lucky Luke

[21:37:01] ski/rizon handfaste ?

[21:37:48] ski/rizon Teotihuacan

[21:40:17] ski/rizon senpai

[21:42:53] ski/rizon .t de en Grobschnitt

[21:43:28] ski/rizon i listened to that whole album, recently

[21:44:31] ski/rizon Mikoolo : was listening to some Gobsmack today

[21:45:18] ski/rizon brisbane

[21:45:59] ski/rizon sounds sus

[21:46:13] ski/rizon check something out

[21:46:18] ski/rizon (boviously)

[21:46:48] ski/rizon Gaia

[21:46:59] ski/rizon Solomon

[21:47:13] ski/rizon human

[21:47:46] ski/rizon follow the yellow brick road

[21:51:07] ski/rizon fraction

[21:51:35] ski/rizon Weird Al Yankovitch

[21:52:20] ski/rizon Hedy Lamarr

[21:52:56] ski/rizon northern france

[21:53:17] ski/rizon pod ?

[21:53:46] ski/rizon steglizing

[21:55:12] ski/rizon yes you are, Mikoolo

[22:00:08] ski/rizon reindeer ?

[22:00:40] ski/rizon iirc, king Carolus tried to use elks for military, or somesuch ?

[22:00:49] ski/rizon Mikoolo : yea, half-domesticated

[22:00:56] ski/rizon they don't have lead animals

[22:01:13] ski/rizon ah, /me always confuses this

[22:02:13] ski/rizon Brigitte Bardot

[22:02:32] ski/rizon (not that i've watched any film with her ..)

[22:02:54] ski/rizon moin, wez

[22:02:58] ski/rizon we needed you, before

[22:03:14] ski/rizon wez : for "<Trivia> 47. Aussie Slang: Suss it out?"

[22:04:06] ski/rizon <ski> check something out

[22:04:37] ski/rizon Jonathan Dunne

[22:04:46] ski/rizon (C64 musician)

[22:05:15] ski/rizon saturn

[22:05:49] ski/rizon Too Many Insects

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