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| [01/13/25 02:16:47] login: ComputerTech: Are your parents living with you? |
| [01/10/25 02:10:41] login: I mean 'in excess of the law' not to mean 'in violation of the law', but 'stricter than what the law requires of private entities, which is nothing' |
| [01/09/25 11:06:47] login: maybe the phrase 'excess of the law' has two meanings |
| [01/09/25 04:27:24] login: but that will still be server-side filtering instead of client-side filtering |
| [01/09/25 04:27:11] login: If an AI can set 'rep' based on the 'spammyness' rating of the messages that fresh new clients send, that could work with unreal's existing mechanisms |
| [01/09/25 04:26:22] login: That way, borderline spammy or trolly content can also be filtered (by content, not by nick) according to each user's wishes instead of a single standard imposed on all members of the channel |
| [01/09/25 04:25:40] login: If they come back with new nicknames, can't filtering by content judged by some small AI to be 'spammy' on the client-side be sufficient? |
| [01/09/25 04:24:53] login: TheFatherMind: Yup, it's not government censorship, but private censorship in excess of the law |
| [01/08/25 02:15:21] login: if someone is being kicked on behalf of all other members, then that's censorship, isn't it? |
| [01/08/25 12:05:41] login: Everyone can modify their IRC client to filter messages that look spammy if they wouldn't like to see them |
| [01/08/25 12:05:16] login: ComputerTech is on the side of allowing spammy speech here too |
| [01/07/25 06:58:16] login: i don't mean that in a bad way |
| [01/07/25 06:58:04] login: it's amazing that the channel name doesn't attract more people like ComputerTech |
| [01/03/25 11:27:20] login: (the movie) |
| [01/03/25 11:27:05] login: A Children-of-Men scenario |
| [01/03/25 11:26:52] login: a real power-law distribution of genes instead of the current natural mixing |
| [01/03/25 11:26:33] login: a billionaire will have 1000x the clones of a millionaire (just going by linear ratio of net worth |
| [01/03/25 11:26:06] login: And raise their cloned children to take over their role |
| [01/03/25 11:25:48] login: And people will just clone themselves in a pod or something |
| [01/03/25 11:25:37] login: Another alternative is that cloning will be liberalised |
| [01/03/25 11:25:15] login: So Western culture will have to regenerate itself in the children of fundamentalists |
| [01/03/25 11:24:59] login: because liberal parents don't have children |
| [01/03/25 11:24:44] login: Or maybe liberal people have conservative parents |
| [01/03/25 11:24:33] login: There must be a way to have a liberal culture but also not below-replacement fertility |
| [01/03/25 11:23:59] login: At which point their fertility rate will start going down too |
| [01/03/25 11:23:47] login: Unless you can convince the Afghan, African and Israeli kids to give their own culture up and adopt Western culture |
| [01/03/25 11:23:22] login: i.e., Western culture will be dead and fundamentalist culture will take over |
| [01/03/25 11:22:57] login: So they'll be moving into the now emptier cities |
| [01/03/25 11:22:45] login: And you know, it's Africa, Israel and Afghanistan that is having a lot of kids |
| [01/03/25 11:22:19] login: I'd be pretty sad to see the pinnacle of human endeavour behind us |
| [01/03/25 11:21:57] login: The US is already facing a mild version of this |
| [01/03/25 11:21:44] login: Crumbling infrastucture, because who wants to be pouring concrete and doing construction |
| [01/03/25 11:21:14] login: Abandoned towns |
| [01/03/25 11:21:00] login: House prices will crash |
| [01/03/25 11:20:36] login: Slower athletes, fewer new movie stars, fewer of everything |
| [01/03/25 11:20:03] login: Just a winding back of extreme human talent and skill |
| [01/03/25 11:19:35] login: higher taxation due to the erosion of the tax base (in absolute terms) |
| [01/03/25 11:19:26] login: Imagine chronic job shortages, accelerating increases in price |
| [01/03/25 11:19:00] login: Fewer people is a danger because none of the economic models take that into account |
| [01/03/25 11:17:58] login: Or be very entertaining |
| [01/03/25 11:17:35] login: Maybe some of them will make life even more comfortable |
| [01/03/25 11:17:24] login: i'd say that's a positive |
| [01/03/25 11:17:10] login: more people = more brains instead of soil + plants |
| [01/03/25 11:16:09] login: isn't that because cities are densely populated? |
| [01/03/25 11:15:26] login: New material gets deposited to the Earth via meteorites, but otherwise it's just all recycled via natural and artificial processes |
| [01/03/25 11:14:59] login: The ultimate source of energy, actually entropy, is the sun |
| [01/03/25 11:14:41] login: Cheap energy will make all the other cycles fast enough to not be an impediment to human population growth |
| [01/03/25 11:14:01] login: That way, the sunlit part of the Earth can transmit power to the dark part |
| [01/03/25 11:13:26] login: Maybe even intercontinental HVDC lines just like internet submarine cables |
| [01/03/25 11:13:10] login: The only missing piece is capturing the sun's energy over a wider area and buffering it for 24-48 hours using a battery or other method |
| [01/03/25 11:12:40] login: It's the same with water purification using desalination plants |
| [01/03/25 11:12:27] login: The natural version would be the nitrogen cycle, but we've been able to increase the rate of nitrogen fixation using energy |
| [01/03/25 11:11:50] login: i.e., urea |
| [01/03/25 11:11:41] login: We've solved the issue in food by converting nitrogen in the atmosphere into fertiliser |
| [01/03/25 11:11:20] login: The only reason it feels like there are too many people is because extracting resources from ores isn't economical enough due to energy constraints on purification of bad-quality ores |
| [01/03/25 11:10:01] login: Or 'the world is too comfortable' |
| [01/03/25 11:09:34] login: It's like saying the GDP is too high |
| [01/03/25 11:09:18] login: or "i haven't thought about that" |
| [01/03/25 11:09:10] login: or "i will be happy with my babies, i.e., cats" |
| [01/03/25 11:09:00] login: The answer I get is, "my husband and i have decided to have no children" |
| [01/03/25 11:08:47] login: I have asked every woman around me semi-casually what their plan for children is |
| [01/03/25 11:08:27] login: just because of the historical prevalence of those who want 0-1 child |
| [01/03/25 11:08:01] login: And, research has found that one needs to have 5 for the family line to still be around 100 years later |
| [01/03/25 11:07:39] login: i.e., all the women will have to have 2, or some will have to have 3 for others to have less than 2 |
| [01/03/25 11:07:19] login: If you want more than half the people to have children, some men will have to start giving birth |
| [01/03/25 11:07:08] login: Half the people = men, the other half = women |
| [01/03/25 11:06:43] login: to make up for the ones having 0-1 |
| [01/03/25 11:06:35] login: More than half the people need to have more than 2 for it to be solved |
| [01/03/25 11:06:01] login: if one were to extrapolate to the population being the same as in historical times, there will be such few people that all technological process will be 'lost knowledge' |
| [01/03/25 11:05:22] login: so the quality of the people left over will decline too |
| [01/03/25 11:05:16] login: It's that if the population starts declining, there will be fewer doctors and teachers |
| [01/03/25 11:05:03] login: The food is not the problem |
| [01/03/25 11:04:34] login: It was more in the 'there will be too many to feed' direction, which never came to pass because of the green revolution and fertilisers |
| [01/03/25 11:04:13] login: directino |
| [01/03/25 11:04:11] login: The threat was never in the 'there won't be enough' |
| [01/03/25 11:03:49] login: There will be more as Indonesian women start outearning Indonesian men |
| [01/03/25 11:03:28] login: But aren't there Indonesian women such as your wife who want no children? |
| [01/03/25 11:02:54] login: Not yet |
| [01/03/25 11:02:21] login: Or, if we're talking futuristic, it'll be a crypto token that gives her a discount on the robot's usual rate |
| [01/03/25 11:01:34] login: like giving her a haircut or cleaning the house |
| [01/03/25 11:01:20] login: to then pay the robots of that very company to do services for her |
| [01/03/25 11:00:49] login: Or buy the stock of the robot company to earn some dividends from it |
| [01/03/25 11:00:06] login: Maybe instead of a house she'll have to buy a part of a datacentre and earn rent from AIs hiring computational resources from that datacentre |
| [01/03/25 10:59:18] login: unless it'll be robot built |
| [01/03/25 10:59:06] login: She may have to pay an exhorbitant price for the house to be built in a reasonable timeframe |
| [01/03/25 10:58:47] login: The main question is, who will build the house and who will rent the house when there just aren't enough people to build the house this year or enough rental demand |
| [01/03/25 10:57:55] login: Her family = parents and siblings or children and siblings' children? |
| [01/03/25 10:57:18] login: Eventually, your wife's new husband's new wife will have to settle for an african or peruvian husband |
| [01/03/25 10:56:04] login: so it's the same problem |
| [01/03/25 10:56:01] login: It works out as long as someone else is pumping out new people to marry generation after generation |
| [01/03/25 10:55:30] login: That young man will be taking care of her then, and he can find someone half his age when he's your age |
| [01/03/25 10:54:51] login: TheFatherMind: maybe after you've lived a wonderful life and she's your current age, she can do a thing by finding someone half her age |
| [01/03/25 10:53:59] login: The same is true of nannies/professional parents, who would be spending time raising your wife's children instead of their own or someone else's |
| [01/03/25 10:53:22] login: so it's an opportunity cost to her to be your wife's surrogate |
| [01/03/25 10:53:06] login: And, a surrogate bearing your child means she isn't bearing her own in that 9-12 month period |
| [01/03/25 10:52:42] login: Of course, all of this costs money |
| [01/03/25 10:52:29] login: Current foster parents are not fit for purpose, but maybe there are some really skilled parenting experts |
| [01/03/25 10:52:00] login: And I think in the future there will be a new profession - professional parenting |
| [01/03/25 10:51:19] login: If pregnancy is such an issue, commercial surrogacy is legal in the US |
| [01/03/25 10:50:48] login: And the companies making those robots will probably have the highest enterprise value in history |
| [01/03/25 10:49:58] login: The robots will get dexterous enough to satisfy your wife's care needs |
| [01/03/25 10:49:10] login: or, if she's going to be asking someone else's kids to do that for her, will she be adding new progeny to make up for that to the pool of future workers? |
| [01/03/25 10:48:43] login: Is she spawning her caretakers? |
| [01/03/25 10:48:23] login: She'll be needing some taking care of in her old age too |
| [01/03/25 10:47:58] login: Have them learn a musical instrument or to sing, or athletics etc. |
| [01/03/25 10:47:42] login: and administer it to your grandchildren |
| [01/03/25 10:47:32] login: i.e., good grades, you can write a test for what they should know and be able to do |
| [01/03/25 10:47:14] login: and make payment contingent on hitting those targets |
| [01/03/25 10:47:05] login: TheFatherMind: Why not put some performance plan for your daughter and her children |
| [01/03/25 10:46:38] login: Same with money |
| [01/03/25 10:46:28] login: It's taboo to ask or talk about either |
| [01/03/25 10:46:19] login: No wonder people are so secretive about their number of sex partners, and whether they'll have children or not |
| [01/03/25 10:45:45] login: Isn't it a shameful thing? |
| [01/03/25 10:45:37] login: while you and your daughter are funding their retirement care through your daughter's children |
| [01/03/25 10:45:07] login: i.e., all the childless peers of your daughter are screwing you and partying |
| [01/03/25 10:44:33] login: And, if you fund your daughter's children, you're subsiding the retirement of the childless |
| [01/03/25 10:44:01] login: will bid for her children to care of them over her in their old age |
| [01/03/25 10:43:45] login: Her peers who go childless or below-replacement-rate and invest that money |
| [01/03/25 10:43:25] login: But you know the game |
| [01/03/25 10:43:15] login: Your daughter is saving the world |
| [01/03/25 10:41:56] login: Do you think all your DNA descendents should get a piece of that trust? |
| [01/03/25 10:41:28] login: *lost siblings' |
| [01/03/25 10:41:22] login: they may be your lost sibling's kids rather than your own, too |
| [01/03/25 10:41:04] login: TheFatherMind: if you become wealthy through some insanely lucky investment, you may find some more kids asking for support |
| [01/03/25 10:40:32] login: the non-parents may pay their 'children's welfare tax' by asking their own parents, i.e., old people, for a handout |
| [01/03/25 10:39:49] login: or (3) taxing non-parents and subsidising parents |
| [01/03/25 10:39:23] login: (2) is similar to (1) except it uses money supply inflation instead of a transfer |
| [01/03/25 10:38:54] login: (2) a long-term loan for parenting expenses to be paid off by the kid in their adult working life |
| [01/03/25 10:38:36] login: The solution is either (1) taking wealth away from old people now and putting it in the hands of parents |
| [01/03/25 10:38:14] login: i.e., the parents who did the right thing get screwed in old age |
| [01/03/25 10:38:05] login: or, taking the money and serving the not-enough-children moneyed |
| [01/03/25 10:37:42] login: And the kids will have to choose between foregoing money and fulfiling any obligations they feel towards their parents |
| [01/03/25 10:37:24] login: While the peers who are having kids will spend a lot of time and money raising those kids, but then will have less money left over to bid on their own kids to care of them |
| [01/03/25 10:36:57] login: so everyone reproducing below population replacement rate will have extra money saved over to bid on their peers' kids to care for them in old age |
| [01/03/25 10:27:45] login: You'll have to be okay with imported service/care labour |
| [01/03/25 10:26:00] login: if that fails to hold, the wealth will fail to buy i.e. price of retirement care will grow faster than GDP |
| [01/03/25 10:25:12] login: you know, the retirement system is dependent on exponential population growth |
| [01/03/25 10:22:55] login: have you put your dna in ancestry.com or similar? |
| [01/03/25 10:22:16] login: Because you need 4 kids for four parents |
| [01/03/25 10:21:53] login: If you had 1 each with 3 women, the fertility ratio is 0.75*2 |
| [01/03/25 10:20:56] login: TheFatherMind: not body count but progeny count |
| [01/03/25 09:34:17] login: to be able to raise 10 children well |
| [01/03/25 09:33:52] login: TheFatherMind: maybe you bought bitcoin early |
| [01/03/25 07:22:17] login: So, is the number of children more than the number of sex partners? |
| [01/03/25 12:43:16] login: each |
| [01/03/25 12:43:12] login: Otherwise it would take 30 years, assuming a cap of 2 years in between |
| [01/03/25 12:42:44] login: 10 kids would mean more than one woman, right? |
| [01/03/25 12:42:22] login: nice phogto |
| [01/03/25 12:38:09] login: i don't have your basic auth credentials, so did not see your wife and you on that page |
| [01/03/25 12:36:58] login: Maybe add a description of it as well |
| [01/03/25 12:36:42] login: You have a logo on your home page too |
| [01/03/25 12:36:32] login: The second one or the trademark? |
| [01/03/25 12:36:02] login: Your wife is TheMotherMind then? |
| [01/03/25 12:34:52] login: It doesn't cost much if you use the Madrid Convention |
| [01/03/25 12:34:36] login: Have you registered TheFatherMind as an international trademark? |
| [01/03/25 12:23:37] login: you wanted to be a father? |
| [01/02/25 10:42:41] login: If you don't mind my asking, what is the significance of your nickname? |
| [01/02/25 10:42:15] login: Happy New Year's to your wife (and you), TheFatherMind! |
| [12/21/24 01:39:17] login: whereas earlier, i'd've had to leave in ~8 months otherwise |
| [12/21/24 01:38:48] login: due to being invited to apply for permanent residency |
| [12/21/24 01:38:36] login: ComputerTech: I'm good. I can stay in the Country C where i am now |
| [12/21/24 01:38:21] login: on iphone, you have to make a lot of effort to tap the cursor to move it |
| [12/21/24 01:38:01] login: android lets you move the cursor around using an easy-to-select tab/pin |
| [12/21/24 01:37:32] login: i have used and continue to use both |
| [12/21/24 01:37:27] login: ComputerTech: android is nice |
| [12/19/24 10:44:24] login: ComputerTech: the one that earns you money to spend on food, home repairs, transportation etc. |
| [12/18/24 11:47:58] login: or should i mind my own business? |
| [12/18/24 11:47:49] login: ComputerTech: how's your business going? |
| [12/11/24 12:01:11] login: it has to do with being late |
| [12/11/24 12:01:05] login: also, you know what comes after ree, right? |
| [12/11/24 12:00:49] login: ComputerTech: are you a coder? |
| [12/04/24 06:20:26] login: *CEOs |
| [12/04/24 06:20:23] login: nor was he wearing a bulletproof vest like the ones they sell to CEOS |
| [12/04/24 06:20:12] login: Guy didn't have any bodyguards |
| [12/04/24 06:20:02] login: UnitedHealthcare CEO shot dead - what do you think? |
| [12/03/24 04:01:28] login: *one person here |
| [12/03/24 04:01:21] login: Is there one person other than me who's doing Advent of Code 2024 this year? |
| [12/02/24 05:45:28] login: So, if he wants to have kids, he should get on with it, or hold his peace (forever) |
| [12/02/24 05:45:02] login: so you'd have to be of good enough nature and personality to be attractive to a very successful person with their own pick of the litter |
| [12/02/24 05:44:38] login: well, the multimillionaire may be a man or a woman (out of the ones who are looking to have kids) |
| [12/02/24 05:43:58] login: Even in general, if one is planning to have kids and delays the matter, anyone you'd want to marry would already be married to someone who was faster than you |
| [12/02/24 05:43:29] login: The middle ground is disappearing over time, slowly - but i predict, soon suddenly |
| [12/02/24 05:43:12] login: Otherwise you'd have to be of good enough nature and personality to be attractive to a very successful woman with her own pick of the litter |
| [12/02/24 05:42:31] login: Time is of the essence, otherwise everyone you would want to ask out on a date would already be associated with a multimillionaire |
| [12/02/24 05:41:48] login: All the billionaires are getting their own harems, so the peace has been breached |
| [12/02/24 05:41:19] login: Dragon: isn't that the prime directive and what he was born for? |
| [12/02/24 05:17:09] login: It'll change your life - may even increase the number of kids you ultimately have |
| [12/02/24 05:17:00] login: two prompt questions |
| [12/02/24 05:16:56] login: ComputerTech: you should have a weekly diary where the prompt question is "What did I get done this week? What do I hope to do next week?" |
| [12/01/24 04:29:28] login: like a Christmas advent calendar, but with coding puzzles (that start off simple) |
| [12/01/24 04:29:06] login: Have you heard of adventofcode.com? |
| [12/01/24 04:28:50] login: I'm surprised |
| [12/01/24 04:28:47] login: No? |
| [12/01/24 04:22:38] login: computer-technology enthusiasts, then? |
| [12/01/24 04:22:00] login: are you coders? |
| [12/01/24 04:21:58] login: and ADMIRAL_HUBRIS |
| [12/01/24 04:21:53] login: hi Hotties |
| [12/01/24 03:52:07] login: Is everyone an atheist here or something? |
| [12/01/24 03:51:54] login: Why is it that in a channel called #computertech, not one person is excited for not attempting the adventofcode.com? |
| [12/01/24 11:16:36] login: *before* signing the marriage contract |