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[00:01:27] ski/rizon Peorth : reminded me of this one ^ :)

[00:01:46] ski/rizon (i actually have a Commodore Vic, too ..)

[00:03:22] ski/rizon Chip's Challenge, maybe ?

[00:03:56] ski/rizon i remember making my own levels for that

[00:04:35] ski/rizon (and before that, for Boulder Dash on the Commodore 64, and for Emerald Mine on the Amiga. Repton III on the C64 was also a somewhat similar, and nice, game)

[00:15:33] ski/rizon hm, i don't remember hearing about that game

[00:17:06] ski/rizon (well, maybe once or twice i played on SNES at some else's home)

[00:17:56] ski/rizon (hm .. may have been Super Mario .. and A Link to the Past)

[00:18:14] ski/rizon probably

[00:19:07] ski/rizon i remember Yoshi, yes

[00:19:58] ski/rizon i remember playing The Great Gianna Sisters

[00:20:50] ski/rizon <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Giana_Sisters>

[00:21:58] ski/rizon Mario clone. it was withdrawn from sale, due to Nintendo

[00:22:33] ski/rizon heh, i played Bubble Bobble. may have played Kid Icarus a little too, not sure

[00:22:45] ski/rizon hm, and there was some game called Rainbow something ?

[00:23:25] ski/rizon ah, Rainbow Islands

[00:23:31] ski/rizon i played these on C64

[00:24:07] ski/rizon ah, it was sequel to Bubble Bobble

[00:24:19] ski/rizon Super Mario Bros 3 ?

[00:26:37] ski/rizon i also recall playing Rodland <http://hol.abime.net/1271>,<https://www.lemonamiga.com/games/details.php?id=912> .. i remember an Amiga magazine reviewed it, describing it as "so cute so you'd puke"

[00:27:07] ski/rizon hehe :)

[00:28:10] ski/rizon i remember drawing (invented) maps of Bards Tale II: The Destiny Knight, in second class in school or so

[00:28:22] ski/rizon (and some Lemmings levels)

[00:28:50] ski/rizon (oh, and Dungeon Master .. that's a nice game, i still play it, now and then)

[00:31:10] ski/rizon (my older brothers were playing Bard's Tale,Dungeon Master,Eye of the Beholder,Black Crypt,Cadaver,The Secret of Monkey Island,Turrican,Civilization,Pirates!,Castle Master,..)

[00:33:01] ski/rizon (Shadow of the Beast,Obitus)

[00:33:01] ski/rizon sure sounds like, Aliv3 :b

[00:33:22] ski/rizon ah, i played the King's Quest series (well, not all, but several of them), maybe ten or fifteen years ago

[00:34:10] ski/rizon Aliv3 : that's fun. with ability to save seed ?

[00:36:34] ski/rizon Faery Tale used a custom very compact map format, with the world tiled by large blocks, each of them in turn tiled by individual graphical map tiles. it gave a fractal feel (especially near coasts) .. often you thought you were back somewhere, but it was just a place which looked similar

[00:37:03] ski/rizon mm

[00:38:25] ski/rizon nw

[00:41:13] ski/rizon yea, people nowadays often focus too much of shiny graphics

[00:41:31] ski/rizon graphics can be nice. but if the game experience is bad, it can't make up for it

[00:42:05] ski/rizon yea, i remember Solo Adventure books

[00:46:16] ski/rizon hm, now i'm reminded of Stories Untold, whose first chapter, The House Abandon, is a text adventure

[00:46:23] ski/rizon (see e.g. <https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGxV8JnoT5QguPLJsBqy5Zh9gJLXerApX>)

[00:49:04] ski/rizon (Talin was the (sole) developer of Faery Tale)

[00:49:38] ski/rizon (he also later was a member of <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dreamers_Guild>,<https://inherittheearth.net/dgi/indexnf.htm>)

[00:49:52] ski/rizon nah, i just happened to stumble over those articles, and found them interesting

[00:51:05] ski/rizon hm, re RPG DM .. i know there's research being done on automatically generating narratives (e.g. related to logic programming, which historically has ties to natural language processing, and to (traditional) AI)

[00:53:35] ski/rizon ah, i see

[00:54:42] ski/rizon hm, so it's like an extra party member ?

[00:54:52] ski/rizon you can tell it to go do simple things ?

[00:55:33] ski/rizon (reminds me of Lure of the Temptress (graphical RPG), which had a quite advanced system of telling NPCs to go do tasks)

[00:55:45] ski/rizon hm, Tinkerbell ?

[00:56:04] ski/rizon (can't recall hearing her being referred to as "Tink", before, though)

[00:57:04] ski/rizon now i'm wondering if there's any Peter Pan games

[00:57:20] ski/rizon and you can ask it for details ?

[00:57:44] ski/rizon right

[01:00:55] ski/rizon (that's maximum power fire ball, in Dungeon Master. you'd cast spells by composing them out of a selection of runes. and you have to remember those, and press them quickly, in combat. quite nice system)

[01:01:45] ski/rizon ("MON" is maximum power, "FUL" is the fire element, and "IR" is flying)

[01:02:21] ski/rizon King wrote which one ?

[01:03:08] ski/rizon ah, right

[01:10:08] ski/rizon (<https://projectaon.org/en/Main/Home> has the "Lone Wolf" Solo Adventure books i was remembering playing)

[01:10:44] ski/rizon oh, didn't know Musk was interested in RPGs or text adventures

[01:10:48] ski/rizon no worry

[01:11:13] ski/rizon (i'm getting a bit sleepy, so sorry for being a bit random with associations)

[01:11:18] ski/rizon hm, i never knew

[01:11:56] ski/rizon i remember i chatted with esr a little, once. and say nocebo, i think (Naggum)

[01:15:41] ski/rizon Erik Naggum, a somewhat notorious (for strong opinions) <news:comp.lang.lisp> Usenet poster. also known for working on SGML

[01:16:15] ski/rizon hm, maybe he changed his nick at some point, i dunno. i just used the nick i knew

[01:17:06] ski/rizon well, a few years before, i'd seen a girl happily chatting away in turkish, in mIRC, in the school library

[01:17:33] ski/rizon around the same time, i started (mostly) lurking on some Usenet newsgroups ..

[01:17:48] ski/rizon hm, no what's Couchpotato ?

[01:18:58] ski/rizon (it was actually Usenet who got me onto IRC .. i got there from a WikiWiki (iirc MoinMoin) that mentioned an IRC channel)

[01:19:39] ski/rizon nah, i got on IRC in 2001

[01:20:12] ski/rizon (maybe one or two years ago i'd seen my brother use mIRC, and briefly used it on one occasion. but i didn't get into it, then)

[01:20:31] ski/rizon well, specifically, for the programming language Haskell .. the network was known as OpenProjects back then

[01:20:57] ski/rizon (although for quite some time i was only in that one channel. later i branched out into a few more)

[01:21:22] ski/rizon i've been on IRCnet a little, and DALnet, not too much

[01:21:43] ski/rizon (mostly scene-related channels .. my older brothers were into the demo scene)

[01:22:57] ski/rizon hm, not quite sure what more to tell, really

[01:23:09] ski/rizon i've been on IRC basically continuously, since then

[01:23:25] ski/rizon well, there are still demo parties

[01:23:43] ski/rizon (although i never got involved personally in the scene)

[01:24:32] ski/rizon if you want to, you could look up a documentary "Demoscene: The Art of the Algorithms" by Moleman 2

[01:24:57] ski/rizon (apparently Alive is taken, has nick protection ..)

[01:25:13] ski/rizon oh, or that's yours ?

[01:30:41] ski/rizon hm, solve which ?

[01:31:33] ski/rizon mhm, sorry to hear

[01:33:54] ski/rizon (yea .. imho, not too much point getting angry at such people (except maybe as an energy drive to actually do something reasonable about it, if an opportunity arises) .. otherwise, better not to waste one's energy)

[01:34:32] ski/rizon i guess some also don't have dads .. or present dads

[01:35:10] ski/rizon mm, i understand

[01:35:25] ski/rizon (hard being a single parent)

[01:35:38] ski/rizon ya

[01:36:14] ski/rizon mm, certainly increases likelyhood of that .. and early pregnancies for girls, iirc

[01:38:41] ski/rizon some people have nothing better to do .. or try to make themselves feel better, by denigrating others ..

[01:38:53] ski/rizon "KYC" ?

[01:39:18] ski/rizon mhm (never heard before)

[01:40:04] ski/rizon (reminds me of "Utu: start (Saving The Internet (with hate))" <https://web.archive.org/web/20090131203618/http://savingtheinternetwithhate.com:80/>)

[01:40:45] ski/rizon what would those be ?

[01:41:18] ski/rizon interesting

[01:42:19] ski/rizon things seem to be swinging towards much more state control, atm .. who knows when the pendulum will swing back

[01:42:37] ski/rizon ya

[01:43:16] ski/rizon mm. usually more than one side to something

[01:44:05] ski/rizon anon does tend to bring out the worst, in some people

[01:44:27] ski/rizon heh

[01:46:36] ski/rizon see "The Baader-Meinhof Phenonemnon" by Alan Bellows in 2006-03 at <https://www.damninteresting.com/the-baader-meinhof-phenomenon>. it's when you hear about something new, and then you spot it everywhere

[01:46:48] ski/rizon we probably wouldn't know

[01:47:26] ski/rizon (at least not if they have sufficiently advanced technilogy, and perhaps also routines, tactics/strategy, &c.)

[01:47:55] ski/rizon better not to obsess too much about such things, even if some such things conceivably might be true

[01:49:03] ski/rizon i suspect there's still very much we have to learn about our brains, perception, cognition, weltanschauung, consciousness

[01:49:43] ski/rizon hm, well, .. anyway .. i'm growing a bit sleepy, over this end

[01:49:58] ski/rizon i'd love to stay and chat a bit more, but i should probably try to go to sleep

[01:50:40] ski/rizon thank you for the conversation

[01:50:58] ski/rizon feel free

[01:51:27] ski/rizon (i allow anyone to PM me without permission .. it was only a few years ago i learned that not everyone likes that)

[01:52:18] ski/rizon well, take care. have a nice day/night/whatever

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